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Metalworking (rec.crafts.metalworking) Discuss various aspects of working with metal, such as machining, welding, metal joining, screwing, casting, hardening/tempering, blacksmithing/forging, spinning and hammer work, sheet metal work. |
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On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 20:59:44 -0400, Pete Keillor
wrote: I was finishing up the OA cart today, and couldn't get an arc. I was using my Dynasty 200DX in stick mode with 6011 rod. Checked out the setup several times. I finally noticed that I had the stick in backwards. Good grief. Pete Keillor I smoked my commercial 5hp rotary converter tonight trying to start what turned out to be a 10hp motor so I could breadboard up a bigger rotary converter to run my big Airco Phase Arc 350. Damnit Anyone want to trade a MINTY Airco 3ph Mig will do marvelous spray transfer, 350 amp, with new Tweeco torch, beautiful condition, low time, for a good Mig I can use on 220 single phase and run .045 wire with? Anyone have a larger rotary converter? Gunner "Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire. Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us) off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give them self determination under "play nice" rules. Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you for torturing the cat." Gunner |
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Suggest you simply replace the electrolytic start caps in your RPC and you'll be
back to where you started. My RPC has a 7.5 hp idler and it has started several different 10 hp 3 phase motors with no load. Maybe you should use your 5hp RPC to start a 7.5hp motor, leave that running, and then try to start the 10hp motor? Phase converters are really simple machines. You shouldn't have any trouble fixing one or making one! Grant Erwin Kirkland, Washington Gunner Asch wrote: I smoked my commercial 5hp rotary converter tonight trying to start what turned out to be a 10hp motor so I could breadboard up a bigger rotary converter to run my big Airco Phase Arc 350. Damnit Anyone want to trade a MINTY Airco 3ph Mig will do marvelous spray transfer, 350 amp, with new Tweeco torch, beautiful condition, low time, for a good Mig I can use on 220 single phase and run .045 wire with? Anyone have a larger rotary converter? |
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On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 11:51:40 GMT, Gunner Asch
wrote: On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 20:59:44 -0400, Pete Keillor wrote: I was finishing up the OA cart today, and couldn't get an arc. I was using my Dynasty 200DX in stick mode with 6011 rod. Checked out the setup several times. I finally noticed that I had the stick in backwards. Good grief. I smoked my commercial 5hp rotary converter tonight trying to start what turned out to be a 10hp motor so I could breadboard up a bigger rotary converter to run my big Airco Phase Arc 350. Damnit Sorry, I haven't blown up anything lately. But I fixed a high ground "shocking people in the pool" situation last week that was caused by someone /else's/ Pure Stupidity, does that count? ;-) Turns out some nimrod spliced the underground 240V feeders going into the Pool Service 'All-In-One' panel in a 12-12-6 box with split-bolts, and didn't tape them well at all - one layer of linerless rubber tape only, no friction tape, no plastic tape, no filler putty, nothing. And one of the Hot split bolts was pushing against the cover, punched through it's tape and grounded to the steel cover. After the initial hard short and the tip of the split-bolt burned back a little, they had a nice high-resistance carbonized path to ground that drug the electrical system ground up a few volts above the pool steel's earth ground. Just enough of a potential (about 0.7 VAC) between the water and the ladder arms to get the bathers' attention... Retaped the hot bolts, and it went away. Anyone want to trade a MINTY Airco 3ph Mig will do marvelous spray transfer, 350 amp, with new Tweco torch, beautiful condition, low time, for a good Mig I can use on 220 single phase and run .045 wire with? Sorry, just a garden variety Miller Challenger... Anyone have a larger rotary converter? I don't think you can run that Airco beast flat out even if you connect straight to the 100A 1Ph service you have - 10 Hp at 230V is 50A, and IIRC that's the whole shop feed. You go to strike an arc, and every house for 1/4 mile is going to blink. You were going to change out the power pedestal anyways. Why don't you ask Edison if you can get a 3-Phase service? (I'm getting prices for a 200A 1Ph Pedestal w/ 12-breaker distro section, they do make 3Ph ones, too. The breaker brokers around here never see used ones come in.) JonLovitz Tell them you need 3-phase because you're going to drill a well. Or install an elevator to the 2nd floor of Chez Gunner... Yeah, that's it, that's the ticket, an elevator! A big hydraulic freight elevator down to your big basement workshop under the house, with a 20 - no, a 30! A 30-Horsepower pump. Yeah, that'll work... ;-P /JonLovitz -- Bruce -- -- Bruce L. Bergman, Woodland Hills (Los Angeles) CA - Desktop Electrician for Westend Electric - CA726700 5737 Kanan Rd. #359, Agoura CA 91301 (818) 889-9545 Spamtrapped address: Remove the python and the invalid, and use a net. |
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On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 07:56:38 GMT, Gunner Asch
wrote: I engineer for that sort of event. As I did here. The RPC failed below rated overload. I had an amp meter on all 3 legs when it went. sigh Any idea how 3 legs of RMS power add up? When all you are measuring is AC amps? -- Cliff |
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In article , Gunner Asch says...
I can tell you from experience of about 15 minutes ago..that its vitually impossible to rope start a 10 hp, 3450 rpm motor on single phase. I ran like a sumbitch pulling just as hard as I could and still couldnt get it up to speed. Repeatedly..puff huff puff... And if it does start, you better hope you can let go of the rope! doppler effect high Help! doppler effect low Me! doppler effect high Help! doppler effect low Me! Jim -- ================================================== please reply to: JRR(zero) at pkmfgvm4 (dot) vnet (dot) ibm (dot) com ================================================== |
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