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1.5HP motor problem
I just got a WEG Brazilian brand motor on eBay. It's new but was manufactured 3 years
ago. Instruction states that if stored for two years bearings must be replaced or grease changed or grease must be totally replaced. Also capacitors must be replaced. If I do all of the above cost of the motor will probably triple. Motor runs but seems to be underpowered for it's rating - NEMA 1.5HP Any suggestions? Thanks |
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Alex wrote:
I just got a WEG Brazilian brand motor on eBay. It's new but was manufactured 3 years ago. Instruction states that if stored for two years bearings must be replaced or grease changed or grease must be totally replaced. Also capacitors must be replaced. If I do all of the above cost of the motor will probably triple. Motor runs but seems to be underpowered for it's rating - NEMA 1.5HP It will most likely be fine as it is. This is probably just a sort of disclaimer the manufacturer adds to the instructions. Pump some more grease into the bearings if there are grease nipples present. If not, you could dismantle and inspect the grease - it's generally pretty easy to tell if the grease has dried out. What makes you think it is underpowered? Chris |
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I shouldn't be able to stall it easily. But I can.
Some one suggested it might be the circuitry and wiring. I have original 1927 wiring in my house. Is it any way I can check if my wiring can handle the load? I have a multimeter. Thanks, Alex Christopher Tidy wrote: Alex wrote: I just got a WEG Brazilian brand motor on eBay. It's new but was manufactured 3 years ago. Instruction states that if stored for two years bearings must be replaced or grease changed or grease must be totally replaced. Also capacitors must be replaced. If I do all of the above cost of the motor will probably triple. Motor runs but seems to be underpowered for it's rating - NEMA 1.5HP It will most likely be fine as it is. This is probably just a sort of disclaimer the manufacturer adds to the instructions. Pump some more grease into the bearings if there are grease nipples present. If not, you could dismantle and inspect the grease - it's generally pretty easy to tell if the grease has dried out. What makes you think it is underpowered? Chris |
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Alex wrote:
I shouldn't be able to stall it easily. But I can. Some one suggested it might be the circuitry and wiring. I have original 1927 wiring in my house. Is it any way I can check if my wiring can handle the load? I have a multimeter. Thanks, Alex What does the motor data plate say? Do you have a picture of the data plate? What voltage is the supply in your house? How did you stall it? With a long wooden stick or what? Chris |
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Christopher Tidy wrote:
Alex wrote: I shouldn't be able to stall it easily. But I can. Some one suggested it might be the circuitry and wiring. I have original 1927 wiring in my house. Is it any way I can check if my wiring can handle the load? I have a multimeter. Thanks, Alex What does the motor data plate say? Do you have a picture of the data plate? What voltage is the supply in your house? How did you stall it? With a long wooden stick or what? Chris It's a metal 2x72 grinder. I can stall it by grinding small piece of steel or aluminum quite easy. I have 115V in my house. It's a WEG motor model #00158ES1BF56C. you can find it on www.wegelectric.com/catalog Here is the specs: # Output: 1.5 HP # Poles: 4 # Frequency: 60 Hz # Torque: 4.44 lb.ft # Voltage: 115/208-230 V # Frame: F56H # RPM: 1750 # Full Load Amps: 17.4/8.70 A # Efficiency (100%): 76.5 # Power factor (100%): 0.72 # Insulation: B # Noise: --- # No load current: 11.8/5.90 A # In Rush (Times): 6.5 Full Load Amps 17.4/8.70 A In Rush (Times) 6.5 Locked Rotor Torque 280 % Break Down Torque 260 % Thanks, Alex |
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Alex wrote:
Christopher Tidy wrote: Alex wrote: I shouldn't be able to stall it easily. But I can. Some one suggested it might be the circuitry and wiring. I have original 1927 wiring in my house. Is it any way I can check if my wiring can handle the load? I have a multimeter. Thanks, Alex What does the motor data plate say? Do you have a picture of the data plate? What voltage is the supply in your house? How did you stall it? With a long wooden stick or what? Chris It's a metal 2x72 grinder. I can stall it by grinding small piece of steel or aluminum quite easy. I have 115V in my house. It's a WEG motor model #00158ES1BF56C. you can find it on www.wegelectric.com/catalog Here is the specs: # Output: 1.5 HP # Poles: 4 # Frequency: 60 Hz # Torque: 4.44 lb.ft # Voltage: 115/208-230 V Check that the motor isn't wired for 208-230 V. There should be two main windings connected in parallel for 115 V operation, or series for 208-230 V operation. There will also be a start winding. For operation at the lower voltage the start winding is connected directly across the supply by the centrifugal switch. For operation at the higher voltage one end of the start winding is connected to the point at which the two main windings are joined, and the other end to the centrifugal switch. To test your supply voltage you need to set your multimeter to measure AC volts. Most have a 250 V range which would be the best to choose. Figure out a safe method to connect the meter in parallel with your motor. Don't just try to push the probes against the terminals under the motor cover. Be careful! Best wishes, Chris |
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On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 17:16:47 GMT, Alex wrote:
I shouldn't be able to stall it easily. But I can. Some one suggested it might be the circuitry and wiring. I have original 1927 wiring in my house. Is it any way I can check if my wiring can handle the load? I have a multimeter. Using your multimeter, observe line voltage at the motor when it is loaded. If the voltage dips, your wiring isn't up to the load -- quite likely with 1927 wiring. |
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Don Foreman wrote:
On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 17:16:47 GMT, Alex wrote: I shouldn't be able to stall it easily. But I can. Some one suggested it might be the circuitry and wiring. I have original 1927 wiring in my house. Is it any way I can check if my wiring can handle the load? I have a multimeter. Using your multimeter, observe line voltage at the motor when it is loaded. If the voltage dips, your wiring isn't up to the load -- quite likely with 1927 wiring. Please tell me exactly how to do it. I am an electrically illiterate person Thanks, Alex |
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In article , Alex
wrote: Don Foreman wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 17:16:47 GMT, Alex wrote: I shouldn't be able to stall it easily. But I can. Some one suggested it might be the circuitry and wiring. I have original 1927 wiring in my house. Is it any way I can check if my wiring can handle the load? I have a multimeter. Using your multimeter, observe line voltage at the motor when it is loaded. If the voltage dips, your wiring isn't up to the load -- quite likely with 1927 wiring. Please tell me exactly how to do it. I am an electrically illiterate person Thanks, Alex Make sure that the motor is wired for 110 volts and not the higher one. Chuck P. |
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Alex wrote:
Don Foreman wrote: Alex wrote: I shouldn't be able to stall it easily. But I can. Some one suggested it might be the circuitry and wiring. I have original 1927 wiring in my house. Is it any way I can check if my wiring can handle the load? I have a multimeter. Using your multimeter, observe line voltage at the motor when it is loaded. If the voltage dips, your wiring isn't up to the load -- quite likely with 1927 wiring. Please tell me exactly how to do it. I am an electrically illiterate person Uh, do you know enough to not electrocute yourself? Did the motor come with instructions? If so did the instructions describe wiring options for both 110V and 220V? |
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On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 18:36:45 GMT, Alex wrote:
Don Foreman wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 17:16:47 GMT, Alex wrote: I shouldn't be able to stall it easily. But I can. Some one suggested it might be the circuitry and wiring. I have original 1927 wiring in my house. Is it any way I can check if my wiring can handle the load? I have a multimeter. Using your multimeter, observe line voltage at the motor when it is loaded. If the voltage dips, your wiring isn't up to the load -- quite likely with 1927 wiring. Please tell me exactly how to do it. I am an electrically illiterate person Then I would respectfully suggest that you don't attempt it. Get someone who is familiar with electricity to help you. |
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Alex wrote:
I shouldn't be able to stall it easily. But I can. Some one suggested it might be the circuitry and wiring. I have original 1927 wiring in my house. Is it any way I can check if my wiring can handle the load? I have a multimeter. See what voltage is at motor prior and after stalling. BTW, 120 or 240 motor? Wes -- Reply to: Whiskey Echo Sierra Sierra AT Alpha Charlie Echo Golf Romeo Oscar Paul dot Charlie Charlie Lycos address is a spam trap. |
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"Alex" wrote in message . .. wrote: Alex wrote: I shouldn't be able to stall it easily. But I can. Some one suggested it might be the circuitry and wiring. I have original 1927 wiring in my house. Is it any way I can check if my wiring can handle the load? I have a multimeter. See what voltage is at motor prior and after stalling. BTW, 120 or 240 motor? Wes It's a 120/240 volt motor wired for 120v. Alex You have probably just checked your wiring. An unloaded 1 1/2 HP motor wont dim the lights in a properly wired home. Take the motor to a friend's house and test it there. Choose the friend with the newest house. Jerry |
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