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I find that as I get more and more sheet metal tools, the space they
take up is becoming excessive in regards to other machines in the shop.

How do you organize and store your sheet metal tools (shears, brakes,
rollers, punches, notchers, stake plates, etc.) so they are convenient
but still take up the minimum amount of floor space?

Links to pictures would be especially helpful.

Thanks in advance.

TMT

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Too_Many_Tools wrote:

I find that as I get more and more sheet metal tools, the space they
take up is becoming excessive in regards to other machines in the shop.

How do you organize and store your sheet metal tools (shears, brakes,
rollers, punches, notchers, stake plates, etc.) so they are convenient
but still take up the minimum amount of floor space?

Links to pictures would be especially helpful.


You aren't going to like my answer.

I have resisted buying any sheet metal tools at all other than tinsnips for the
exact reason you mention. I don't see the return on usefulness vis-a-vis the
floor space. So I just don't have any.

I assume everything's on casters, etc? You could conceivably consider buying a
container (the kind that goes on a semi truck) and putting all your SM machines
in there and wheeling them out when you need them. In my neighborhood I can't do
this. Sometimes I'm grateful for this. :-)

GWE
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Grant, your opinion is one of those that I look forward to...never
hesitate to offer it. ;)

I would agree with you that "less is more"....one of the reasons for my
name of "Too_Many_Tools". While some may doubt it, I never bring home a
tool that doesn't earn its keep since my shop space is always at a
premium.

The reason why I have a number of sheet metal tools is that in the past
when I was able to use tools like Diacro and Pexto, I found my quality
of workmanship improved. Good tools do make a difference since they
allow one to concentrate on your work so the tools will be staying for
the time being.

Good idea about separate storage but I always try to maintain a fixed
shop floorage so if I need to move my shop I can and will know what my
space requirements are.

TMT

TMT

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On 1 Jul 2005 19:45:48 -0700, "Too_Many_Tools"
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Grant, your opinion is one of those that I look forward to...never
hesitate to offer it. ;)

I would agree with you that "less is more"....one of the reasons for my
name of "Too_Many_Tools". While some may doubt it, I never bring home a
tool that doesn't earn its keep since my shop space is always at a
premium.

The reason why I have a number of sheet metal tools is that in the past
when I was able to use tools like Diacro and Pexto, I found my quality
of workmanship improved. Good tools do make a difference since they
allow one to concentrate on your work so the tools will be staying for
the time being.

Good idea about separate storage but I always try to maintain a fixed
shop floorage so if I need to move my shop I can and will know what my
space requirements are.

TMT

TMT



I cringe when I say this....but there is some advantage to combination
tools...cringe..such as the obiqitous Harbor Freight
roller/sheer/brake as it takes up less than a third of the space
needed for all three seperate tools.

I have one..cringe..and I also have a Pexto 52" shear (in storage), a
DiAcro 36" finger brake (in storage), a DiAcro 6" power notcher (for
sale) and so forth. They are in storage because I dont have the room
for em, and the HF gizmo kinda sorta mostly does what I want it to do,
on the rare occasions I need sheet metal tools.

Gunner

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the world has a long way to go to regain
its credibility and reputation with the US."
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Let the record show that Gunner wrote back on Sat,
02 Jul 2005 20:28:53 GMT in rec.crafts.metalworking :

I cringe when I say this....but there is some advantage to combination
tools...cringe..such as the obiqitous Harbor Freight
roller/sheer/brake as it takes up less than a third of the space
needed for all three seperate tools.

I have one..cringe..and I also have a Pexto 52" shear (in storage), a
DiAcro 36" finger brake (in storage), a DiAcro 6" power notcher (for
sale) and so forth. They are in storage because I dont have the room
for em, and the HF gizmo kinda sorta mostly does what I want it to do,
on the rare occasions I need sheet metal tools.


It does what you need to do "on the rare occasions I need sheet metal
tools."
If you were doing sheet metal work on a regular basis, getting
dedicated machines might be worth it.

Much as, years ago, I did lots of woodworking on a Shopsmith, because
it was a Shopsmith or nothing.

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pyotr filipivich.
as an explaination for the decline in the US's tech edge, James
Niccol wrote "It used to be that the USA was pretty good at
producing stuff teenaged boys could lose a finger or two playing with."


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On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 03:21:39 GMT, pyotr filipivich
wrote:

Let the record show that Gunner wrote back on Sat,
02 Jul 2005 20:28:53 GMT in rec.crafts.metalworking :

I cringe when I say this....but there is some advantage to combination
tools...cringe..such as the obiqitous Harbor Freight
roller/sheer/brake as it takes up less than a third of the space
needed for all three seperate tools.

I have one..cringe..and I also have a Pexto 52" shear (in storage), a
DiAcro 36" finger brake (in storage), a DiAcro 6" power notcher (for
sale) and so forth. They are in storage because I dont have the room
for em, and the HF gizmo kinda sorta mostly does what I want it to do,
on the rare occasions I need sheet metal tools.


It does what you need to do "on the rare occasions I need sheet metal
tools."
If you were doing sheet metal work on a regular basis, getting
dedicated machines might be worth it.


Yes of course. And one would be paying the space penalty.

Much as, years ago, I did lots of woodworking on a Shopsmith, because
it was a Shopsmith or nothing.


Of course.

Gunner

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the world has a long way to go to regain
its credibility and reputation with the US."
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In the shop I ran at MITRE the shear, brake and notcher were on the
central bench, one to a side, and the freestanding tools were lined up
along the walls. The tables of the notcher and shear served as bench
space for the mill and bandsaw opposite them.

I bought the 3-in-1 combo sheetmetal machine for home partly because it
is more space-efficient even though it doesn't work as well as the
separate ones.

Jim Wilkins

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Too_Many_Tools writes:

How do you organize and store your sheet metal tools (shears, brakes,
rollers, punches, notchers, stake plates, etc.) so they are convenient
but still take up the minimum amount of floor space?


I put the import 30-inch 3-in-1 on a shop-made "furniture dolly" of crossed
2x10 lumber with very heavy casters. I roll it under the workbench to
stow it. Not as easy to use near the floor vs having on a workbench, but
for occasional use it is OK.

Sheet metal may not be as "cool" as lathe or milling machine work, but I
really enjoy making the occasional sheet parts from the shear and brake.
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On Sat, 02 Jul 2005 02:24:45 -0500, Richard J Kinch
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Too_Many_Tools writes:

How do you organize and store your sheet metal tools (shears, brakes,
rollers, punches, notchers, stake plates, etc.) so they are convenient
but still take up the minimum amount of floor space?


I put the import 30-inch 3-in-1 on a shop-made "furniture dolly" of crossed
2x10 lumber with very heavy casters. I roll it under the workbench to
stow it. Not as easy to use near the floor vs having on a workbench, but
for occasional use it is OK.

Sheet metal may not be as "cool" as lathe or milling machine work, but I
really enjoy making the occasional sheet parts from the shear and brake.

What a lot of us need, is a 10,000 sf warehouse and a 500 sf workshop!
Gerry :-)}
London, Canada
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Casters are the only answer. I have all of my SM equipment on wheels. It
takes a little time to move them around, but it is worth it. I would not
limit myself to a pair of tinsnips... It just means that you won't be doing
much sheet metal work.

Mark



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I find that as I get more and more sheet metal tools, the space they
take up is becoming excessive in regards to other machines in the shop.

How do you organize and store your sheet metal tools (shears, brakes,
rollers, punches, notchers, stake plates, etc.) so they are convenient
but still take up the minimum amount of floor space?

Links to pictures would be especially helpful.

Thanks in advance.

TMT





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