looking for information on these machines and possibly a source for a
mfg company that untilzes this equipment.

"CH"

There's a place in Lenexa, KS (Kansas City) that had a couple new ones when
I left there and planned to get four more. The name is Machine Laboratory
with a website at http://machlab.com

In my opinion Hydromats aren't all that great. For the money, one could pick
up a half-dozen (or more?) CNC Swiss machines and approach the same
productivity with far less nightmares. For example, one tool goes bad and
the machine that was making a part every three seconds is now down for the
next half-hour at least, and it has to make 10 parts or so for a full cycle
to check it out. If it's off, you don't just adjust an offset, you have to
physically get in there and maybe remove the tool to adjust it mechanically,
then run 10 parts again to see if it's right. It's as if the designers
exclaimed, "If we could just figure out a way to spin the tools instead of
the material".

It their defense, the right part might be a good match for the machine, but
they are very expensive and it's worth weighing the cost & cycle time of one
hydromat against the cost & cycle time of multiples other types of
machinery. Remember if a Swiss machine needs attention, the others are still
spitting out parts while you are working on the one.

Just food for thought.

On Fri, 27 May 2005 05:34:44 GMT, "Vinito" wrote:

"CH"

There's a place in Lenexa, KS (Kansas City) that had a couple new ones when
I left there and planned to get four more. The name is Machine Laboratory
with a website at http://machlab.com

In my opinion Hydromats aren't all that great. For the money, one could pick
up a half-dozen (or more?) CNC Swiss machines and approach the same
productivity with far less nightmares. For example, one tool goes bad and
the machine that was making a part every three seconds is now down for the
next half-hour at least, and it has to make 10 parts or so for a full cycle
to check it out. If it's off, you don't just adjust an offset, you have to
physically get in there and maybe remove the tool to adjust it mechanically,
then run 10 parts again to see if it's right. It's as if the designers
exclaimed, "If we could just figure out a way to spin the tools instead of
the material".

It their defense, the right part might be a good match for the machine, but
they are very expensive and it's worth weighing the cost & cycle time of one
hydromat against the cost & cycle time of multiples other types of
machinery. Remember if a Swiss machine needs attention, the others are still
spitting out parts while you are working on the one.

Just food for thought.


Ive got (2) Escomatics for sale, if anyone wants a 6mm CNC full blown
high speed screw machine.

They use coiled material rather than bar stock., The material remains
fixed and doesnt turn, but the tooling does.

$65,000 for one, $70,000 for the other. Tooled and ready to go, with
tool setters, smog hogs, chip conveyors etc.

Great connector pin machines. Parts simply rain out of them.

Gunner


"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner