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Subject: REVISED PSALM 23 FROM THE WASHINGTON SPECTATOR


BUSH IS MY SHEPHERD, I SHALL DWELL IN WANT

HE LEADETH TRUCKS INTO THE STILL WILDERNESS

HE RESTORETH MY FEARS

HE LEADETH ME IN THE PATHS OF INTERNATIONAL DISGRACE FOR HIS EGO'S
SAKE.

YEA, THOUGH I WALK THRU THE VALLEY OF POLLUTION AND WAR, I WILL FIND
NO EXIT, FOR THOU ARE IN OFFICE.

THY TAX CUTS FOR THE RICH AND THY MEDIA CONTROL, THEY DISCOMFORT ME.

THOU PREPAREST AN AGENDA OF DECEPTION IN THE PRESENCE OF THY RELIGION.

THOU ANOINTEST MY HEAD WITH FOREIGN OIL.

MY HEALTH INSURANCE RUNNETH OUT.

SURELY MEGALOMANIA AND FALSE PATRIOTISM SHALL FOLLOW ME ALL THE DAYS
OF THY TERM.

AND MY JOBLESS CHILD SHALL DWELL IN MY BASEMENT FOREVER.
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AND MY JOBLESS CHILD SHALL DWELL IN MY BASEMENT FOREVER.

How do you have a basement when you have a dirt floor in your livingroom?


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"Cliff" wrote in message
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[OT garbage snipped]


Cliff, we all get the point: you are a leftist-liberal who hates President
Bush, hates Christians, hates conservatives, hates what America stands for,
and would prefer to live under a socialist or communist government.

Now will you please take your off-topic cross-posting personal gibes at
Gunner somewhere else? This is a metalworking newsgroup, not a forum for
your personal political agenda. Enough already!

Thank you.





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On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 05:22:24 GMT, "DeepDiver"
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"Cliff" wrote in message
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[OT garbage snipped]


Now will you please take your off-topic cross-posting personal gibes at
Gunner somewhere else? This is a metalworking newsgroup, not a forum for
your personal political agenda. Enough already!

Thank you.


Hear, hear.
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Cliff wrote:

I'm so sick and tired of everyone I ever meet telling me I should never have
been born.



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Tom Gardner wrote:

After the car wreck I was in, they said I'd need brain surgery, but when the
x-rays came back, they said I'd be fine.

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On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 05:22:24 GMT, "DeepDiver"
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Cliff, we all get the point: you are a leftist-liberal who hates President
Bush, hates Christians, hates conservatives, hates what America stands for,


Ummm ......
Since when, exactly, does America stand for Bush,
Christians and Conservatives?

Or the ~100,000+ murders and all the packs of lies?

Have you considered moving? When & where?

HTH
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On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 05:22:24 GMT, "DeepDiver"
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"Cliff" wrote in message
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[OT garbage snipped]


Cliff, we all get the point: you are a leftist-liberal who hates President
Bush, hates Christians, hates conservatives, hates what America stands for,
and would prefer to live under a socialist or communist government.

Now will you please take your off-topic cross-posting personal gibes at
Gunner somewhere else? This is a metalworking newsgroup, not a forum for
your personal political agenda. Enough already!


Thank you for your political post in favor of ..... what was it
again ??
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In article , DeepDiver says...

Now will you please take your off-topic cross-posting personal gibes at
Gunner somewhere else?


Yes. The more you stay around here, the bigger the chance
I'd join the republican party!

Cliff go away.

Jim


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Cliff,
Do you ever post any thing about metalworking? Do you even do any
metalworking? Please consider posting at least 20% on topic or I shall
start reporting your posts to abuse.


Dan



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On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 11:16:19 -0700, Winston Smith
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First of all, the survivalism and machine groups are
not political forums.


Feel free to tell Gunner & the rest of the wingers.
I've watched their crossposted political tripe for
many, many years.

BTW, Did you miss the "OT" in the subject line of
this bit of *humor*?
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On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 11:16:19 -0700, Winston Smith
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You
don't seem to care about the bigger political picture, so there isn't
even the political reason for your posts.


~100,000 + murdered by the neocons?
Wingers defending their lies?
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On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 11:16:19 -0700, Winston Smith
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I can't count how many right-on-topic threads in m.s you converted to
a name calling contest within one or two posts.


Actually, I don't even read any MS only posts (well, one
or two in the distant past perhaps) .... so it's a bit hard
for me to "convert" any such.

Since when is that "YEA-BUSH, let's kill some ragheads &
commies & & Mexicans & liberals" stuff on topic anyway?
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On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 11:16:19 -0700, Winston Smith
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Unfortunately, Gunner has never shirked from a hurled banana cream and
he indulges you.


He ran & hid behind his beloved killfiles G.
He's had so many basic facts wrong and never learns ..... just
keeps repeating old stolen winger blogs ...
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wrote in message
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Cliff,
Please consider posting at least 20% on topic or I shall
start reporting your posts to abuse.

Dan


Hello Dan,

It's clear from Cliff's latest four posts on this thread that he has no
intention of following the rules or etiquette of the newsgroups.

I have never reported anyone for abuse, but I've had enough of this guy.
IMO, he is worse than the spammers in that his attacks are directed and
personal against contributing members of our newsgroups. Can you please
direct me to a Web site that explains how to go about reporting abuse to his
ISP?

Thank you,
Michael


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On 23 Apr 2005 10:46:29 -0700, the inscrutable "
spake:

Cliff,
Do you ever post any thing about metalworking? Do you even do any
metalworking? Please consider posting at least 20% on topic or I shall
start reporting your posts to abuse.


If everyone would just quit responding to him, maybe he'd go away.
Get a grip, guys.


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On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 11:16:19 -0700, Winston Smith
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That makes him a bad target if you really want to convince anyone in
those groups of anything. Mostly you just seem to enjoy a food fight.
Unfortunately, Gunner has never shirked from a hurled banana cream and
he indulges you. The rest of us just see a childish attempt by you to
yell, "Look at me".


The really sad part, is that Ive had him killfiled for at least a
year, and never see his posts, except on the rare occasion its
piggybacked on someone elses in quoted text. And I seldom respond to
his blather.

Gunner

"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child -
miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosphy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke
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In article , Gunner says...

The really sad part, is that Ive had him killfiled for at least a
year, and never see his posts,


I don't killfile folks, but I make it a habit to shun some.
He's one of them. I make it a policy to never respond to
anything he writes.

Jim


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On 23 Apr 2005 12:13:15 -0700, jim rozen
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In article . com,
says...

Cliff,
Do you ever post any thing about metalworking? Do you even do any
metalworking? Please consider posting at least 20% on topic or I shall
start reporting your posts to abuse.


You might as well start now Dan. I don't think he's
gonna change his spots. That guy's gonna turn me into
a republican! :^)

Jim


Go all the way and become a Republitarian.

Gunner

"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child -
miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosphy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke


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In article , Gunner says...

You might as well start now Dan. I don't think he's
gonna change his spots. That guy's gonna turn me into
a republican! :^)


Go all the way and become a Republitarian.


There are very few posters here, but Cliff is one, George
W. is another. If everyone ignored them, they might just
go away. So I read what they write, but never respond.

Jim


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On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 19:53:56 GMT, "DeepDiver"
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wrote in message
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Cliff,
Please consider posting at least 20% on topic or I shall
start reporting your posts to abuse.

Dan


Hello Dan,

It's clear from Cliff's latest four posts on this thread that he has no
intention of following the rules or etiquette of the newsgroups.

I have never reported anyone for abuse, but I've had enough of this guy.
IMO, he is worse than the spammers in that his attacks are directed and
personal against contributing members of our newsgroups.


Don't post any winger BS then.
In what way do you think that's a "contribution" but pointing
out that no "WMDs" could be found and that the wingers lied
is not?

What part of "OT" was unclear? You don't seem to be a newbie.
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On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 17:40:41 -0700, Winston Smith
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On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 15:34:50 -0400, Cliff wrote:

Wow four separate replies to one minor post.


Four sub-subjects.

Divide and conquer?


Looks that way G.
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On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 17:40:41 -0700, Winston Smith
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In any case, this thread is about your flame war - it is not about how
various groups hold to topic.


It started out ...... with a spot of OT humor ..... G.

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On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 17:40:41 -0700, Winston Smith
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~100,000 + murdered by the neocons?
Wingers defending their lies?


I see your five word summary. I never see the source of your info or
some rational comment.


Then you've clearly missed a LOT of threads & posts.
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"Cliff" wrote in message
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[OT garbage snipped]


Cliff, we all get the point: you are a leftist-liberal who hates

President
Bush, hates Christians, hates conservatives, hates what America

stands for,
and would prefer to live under a socialist or communist government.
Thank you.


Just because a person dislikes Bush does not mean such a person is a
leftist-liberal, who hates Christians or conservatives, or what America
stands for, or that such a person would prefer to live under a
socialist or communist government. Bush is ripping off the people who
voted for him by shoveling public money toward the capitalists who
represent 2% of the population. America does not necessarily stand for
Christianity or conservatism.

the sarp

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Hell, I thought you were a Republican. Just because you don't agree
with everything the current party is promoting, doesn't mean you
aren't basically a Republican.

Dan

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Hell, I thought you were a Republican. Just because you don't agree
with everything the current party is promoting, doesn't mean you
aren't basically a Republican.

Dan


http://www.larryelder.com/faq.html

Q. What is a Republitarian?
A Republican with libertarian leanings." In other words, a member of
the Republican Party who holds libertarian ideals

Q. What is a "toe-tag liberal"?
A "toe-tag liberal" is birth-to-death, dyed-in-the-wool, ain't never
gonna change no matter what, liberal.

Q. What is the Elvis Factor?
I once read that 10 percent of the American people think Elvis still
alive, and 8 percent believe that if you send him a letter, he will
answer it. That's the Elvis factor. You have to remember that, no
matter what, 10 percent of the people are probably not capable of
clear, rational thought.

Q. What's a "victicrat"?
A. Victicrat. I invented it. It's explained in my book, The Ten Things
You Can't Say in America: "Victi" as in victim, and the suffix "-crat"
as in a supporter of a certain kind of ruling body.
"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child -
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Liberalism is a philosphy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke
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On Sun, 24 Apr 2005 13:59:19 -0700, Winston Smith
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On Sun, 24 Apr 2005 01:57:31 -0400, Cliff wrote:

On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 17:40:41 -0700, Winston Smith
wrote:

In any case, this thread is about your flame war - it is not about how
various groups hold to topic.


It started out ...... with a spot of OT humor ..... G.


Why didn't you use a subject line that simply said here's some humor?


Why should I?
Are you humor impaired?

Why did you put Gunners name in the subject?


It seemed very fitting indeed.
Bound to attract his friends.

What does he have to do with your repost of a bad attempt at humor?
(I'm assuming you didn't write it.) I know he had nothing to do with
it because Gunner's humor is actually funny.


Sometimes it is. Sometimes not. Depends

You simply have to twist everything to be about your political
fantasy.


How could I?
As you pointed out, I probably did not write it.

I'm done debating you, I have socks to sort, a lint trap to clean, and
other more interesting things to do.


Have fun G.
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Okay, so it has been a while, and this may be a repeat, but let the record
show that Gunner wrote back on Sun, 24 Apr 2005
21:53:23 GMT in rec.crafts.metalworking :
On 24 Apr 2005 10:45:41 -0700, "
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Hell, I thought you were a Republican. Just because you don't agree
with everything the current party is promoting, doesn't mean you
aren't basically a Republican.

Dan

http://www.larryelder.com/faq.html

Q. What is a Republitarian?
A Republican with libertarian leanings." In other words, a member of
the Republican Party who holds libertarian ideals


Also known as the "Republican Wing of the GOP".

The current batch in DC remind me of old story. Nikita Krushchov,
shortly after becoming premier of the Soviet Union, invites his mother from
the Ukraine to Moscow, to the Kremlin. Such a good boy. He shows her his
apartments, and how nice everything in it is. Then he takes her to his
Dacha on the Black Sea, "to get away from it all". His mother takes a look
a the place and turns to her son and say "Oh my son, it is so wonderful.
But what if the Bolsheviks return?"

So Senator Frist, what if the Republicans gain control of the Congress?


tschus
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Q. What is a Republitarian?


It's a stressed-out buzzard whose head is pointed to the right while it
flies backwards to the left.

And if you think THAT isn't a sight... g

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