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Help with electrical on Tecumseh Engine riding mower
A few years back, I bought a riding mower from Tractor supply. I don't
remember what the brand name is, but it has a tecumseh 13 1/2 HP engine. I won't go in to detail (long sad story), but I've got the ignition/starter wiring goofed up. I also don't have the ignition key. I want to just install a couple toggle switches but I'm not sure where to wire the ignition. I have already got the starter working, but no ignition. There's several "safety switches" on the thing, so I'll be bypassing those as well. Can anyone tell me where to wire the battery to for the ignition, perhaps what wires on the ignition key I can jump? I imagine this sounds like a pretty basic question, but I've never hot wired a thing in my life, including a lawn tractor GRIN. dolfantimmy |
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On 10 Apr 2005 16:33:30 -0700, "dolfantimmy"
wrote: A few years back, I bought a riding mower from Tractor supply. I don't remember what the brand name is, but it has a tecumseh 13 1/2 HP engine. I won't go in to detail (long sad story), but I've got the ignition/starter wiring goofed up. I also don't have the ignition key. I want to just install a couple toggle switches but I'm not sure where to wire the ignition. I have already got the starter working, but no ignition. There's several "safety switches" on the thing, so I'll be bypassing those as well. Can anyone tell me where to wire the battery to for the ignition, perhaps what wires on the ignition key I can jump? I imagine this sounds like a pretty basic question, but I've never hot wired a thing in my life, including a lawn tractor GRIN. First things first. Do NOT wire the battery to the ignition. That's a quick way to fry the coil. If you've already tried then you've likely already fried the coil. Say bye bye to $35-$60 or more if you've done that. The ignition "kill wire" will be any of several places but it should be a wire coming out from under the flywheel housing. It's likely going to a post near the throttle linkage and the wire from the mower hooking there but sometimes they're just hooked direct. To wire it up hook one side of the switch to the post or wire and the other side of the switch to ground. Turn the switch off to run and on to kill. Wayne Cook Shamrock, TX http://members.dslextreme.com/users/waynecook |
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On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 17:26:27 -0700, Wayne Cook wrote
(in message ): On 10 Apr 2005 16:33:30 -0700, "dolfantimmy" wrote: A few years back, I bought a riding mower from Tractor supply. I don't remember what the brand name is, but it has a tecumseh 13 1/2 HP engine. The ignition on these things are directly opposite to what are on cars. They do NOT require power from the battery for ignition. These are magnetos and will run all the time until they are grounded out. The battery merely spins the starter motor; the ignition generates its own electricity. The ignition switch is in reality a "kill switch". When you switch to "off" you complete the circuit to ground the magneto coil. The safety switches on the discharge chute and such are also kill switches. If you cut the wires (or totally remove them) then the ignition will function. You may have an electronic ignition module located next to the flywheel or on older machines there is a points & condenser setup UNDER the flywheel that you have to pull the flywheel to get too. Locate all these kill switch wires, make sure they are not accidently grounded, and the engine should run, or at least have spark at the spark plug...........unless the coil is boogered or some other component is broken or out of adjustment. Hope this helps. Roger in Vegas |
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If it came equipped with an electricial starter you may also have a wire
coming from behind the flywheel that is the output from an alternator that uses the same magnet in the flywheel. Contact the Tecumseh or tractor supply for more information. Hugh "Roger Hull" wrote in message s.net... On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 17:26:27 -0700, Wayne Cook wrote (in message ): On 10 Apr 2005 16:33:30 -0700, "dolfantimmy" wrote: A few years back, I bought a riding mower from Tractor supply. I don't remember what the brand name is, but it has a tecumseh 13 1/2 HP engine. The ignition on these things are directly opposite to what are on cars. They do NOT require power from the battery for ignition. These are magnetos and will run all the time until they are grounded out. The battery merely spins the starter motor; the ignition generates its own electricity. The ignition switch is in reality a "kill switch". When you switch to "off" you complete the circuit to ground the magneto coil. The safety switches on the discharge chute and such are also kill switches. If you cut the wires (or totally remove them) then the ignition will function. You may have an electronic ignition module located next to the flywheel or on older machines there is a points & condenser setup UNDER the flywheel that you have to pull the flywheel to get too. Locate all these kill switch wires, make sure they are not accidently grounded, and the engine should run, or at least have spark at the spark plug...........unless the coil is boogered or some other component is broken or out of adjustment. Hope this helps. Roger in Vegas |
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Thanks for the great help folks, I love newgroups.
Anyway, I want to be sure, so here's what I find based on your suggestions. There is a single wire coming from the ignition switch to the coil. Of course the spark plug is connected to the coil as well. There are also two wires coming from under the flywheel. If I understand correctly, I shut cut the wires going under the fly wheel, and wire one of them to one side of a switch, the other side to ground, providing me a kill switch. What do I do with the wire from the coil? Leave it alone? Then I just need the starter switch, right? Thanks, Tim |
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"dolfantimmy" wrote in message news:1113673489.558609.35050@z14g2000cwz ..googlegroups.com... Thanks for the great help folks, I love newgroups. Anyway, I want to be sure, so here's what I find based on your suggestions. There is a single wire coming from the ignition switch to the coil. Of course the spark plug is connected to the coil as well. There are also two wires coming from under the flywheel. If I understand correctly, I shut cut the wires going under the fly wheel, and wire one of them to one side of a switch, the other side to ground, providing me a kill switch. What do I do with the wire from the coil? Leave it alone? Then I just need the starter switch, right? Thanks, Tim The wire coming from the coil should be the kill wire. I'm trying to download the entire thread to see what you have.. |
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"dolfantimmy" wrote in message news:1113673489.558609.35050@z14g2000cwz ..googlegroups.com... Thanks for the great help folks, I love newgroups. Anyway, I want to be sure, so here's what I find based on your suggestions. There is a single wire coming from the ignition switch to the coil. Of course the spark plug is connected to the coil as well. There are also two wires coming from under the flywheel. If I understand correctly, I shut cut the wires going under the fly wheel, and wire one of them to one side of a switch, the other side to ground, providing me a kill switch. What do I do with the wire from the coil? Leave it alone? Then I just need the starter switch, right? Thanks, Tim The two wires coming out from under the flywheel are probably the alternator leads. You'll need them for lights (if any) and charging the battery. The small wire coming from the ignition coil is the kill wire-ground it to stop the engine. |
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