When I bought the house it had a firepit built in a concrete area of
the backyard. It is built with bricks and holds water when it rains.

The previous owner told me he never used it, and disclosure says there
is no permit for it.

Here is the problem. It has a gas line running into the fire pit
(appears to be from under ground) It has a nut at the end of the pipe,
and just near the pit there is a plate on the ground with a couple of
tiny knobs on the ground that's has label "LP"? or something, is this
a valve control of some sort?

I havn't trace where this pipe is coming from, might be tapping from
the gas line in the house under the crawl space and running below the
backyard concrete slabs?

The pipe is also just steel and it is rusting. I want to figure out
how this thing works. I wouldn't mind cutting off the gas pipe from
the possible "tee" inside the house and capping it off there. I
wouldn't mind it being just a regular log burning pit if I have to..

Do I need a burner or some sort to try it out? Also what do I do
about the pipe being corroded?

jj3000 wrote:
When I bought the house it had a firepit built in a concrete area of
the backyard. It is built with bricks and holds water when it rains.

The previous owner told me he never used it, and disclosure says there
is no permit for it.

Here is the problem. It has a gas line running into the fire pit
(appears to be from under ground) It has a nut at the end of the pipe,
and just near the pit there is a plate on the ground with a couple of
tiny knobs on the ground that's has label "LP"? or something, is this
a valve control of some sort?

I havn't trace where this pipe is coming from, might be tapping from
the gas line in the house under the crawl space and running below the
backyard concrete slabs?

The pipe is also just steel and it is rusting. I want to figure out
how this thing works. I wouldn't mind cutting off the gas pipe from
the possible "tee" inside the house and capping it off there. I
wouldn't mind it being just a regular log burning pit if I have to..

Do I need a burner or some sort to try it out? Also what do I do
about the pipe being corroded?

Could have been a hook up for a propane BBQ. Is there a propane storage tank
on the property. There should be a shutoff in any event. Be careful. You may
need to dig around a bit. Be even more careful.

jj3000 wrote:
When I bought the house it had a firepit built in a concrete area of
the backyard. It is built with bricks and holds water when it rains.

The previous owner told me he never used it, and disclosure says there
is no permit for it.

Here is the problem. It has a gas line running into the fire pit
(appears to be from under ground) It has a nut at the end of the pipe,
and just near the pit there is a plate on the ground with a couple of
tiny knobs on the ground that's has label "LP"? or something, is this
a valve control of some sort?

I havn't trace where this pipe is coming from, might be tapping from
the gas line in the house under the crawl space and running below the
backyard concrete slabs?

The pipe is also just steel and it is rusting. I want to figure out
how this thing works. I wouldn't mind cutting off the gas pipe from
the possible "tee" inside the house and capping it off there. I
wouldn't mind it being just a regular log burning pit if I have to..

Do I need a burner or some sort to try it out? Also what do I do
about the pipe being corroded?

I have no idea what you have there, but if you have a plate labeled
LP, that would indicate propane or butane. Perhaps the pit was
actually a place for a propane tank, or it really is a firepit with
a propane supply line.

--
Robert Allison
Rimshot, Inc.
Georgetown, TX

The plate near the firepit is round and chrome plated with one small
square in the middle. One side of the plate says L-L and the other
side says P-P.
Am I missing a knob that will fit over the square?

The plate is also positioned directly outside the firepit in line of
where the pipe enters the pit. So it might be some kind of shut off
valve.

Alan Smithee wrote:
jj3000 wrote:
When I bought the house it had a firepit built in a concrete area
of
the backyard. It is built with bricks and holds water when it
rains.

The previous owner told me he never used it, and disclosure says
there
is no permit for it.

Here is the problem. It has a gas line running into the fire pit
(appears to be from under ground) It has a nut at the end of the
pipe,
and just near the pit there is a plate on the ground with a couple
of
tiny knobs on the ground that's has label "LP"? or something, is
this
a valve control of some sort?

I havn't trace where this pipe is coming from, might be tapping
from
the gas line in the house under the crawl space and running below
the
backyard concrete slabs?

The pipe is also just steel and it is rusting. I want to figure
out
how this thing works. I wouldn't mind cutting off the gas pipe
from
the possible "tee" inside the house and capping it off there. I
wouldn't mind it being just a regular log burning pit if I have
to..

Do I need a burner or some sort to try it out? Also what do I do
about the pipe being corroded?

Could have been a hook up for a propane BBQ. Is there a propane
storage tank
on the property. There should be a shutoff in any event. Be careful.
You may
need to dig around a bit. Be even more careful.

"jj3000" wrote in message
om...
When I bought the house it had a firepit built in a concrete area of
the backyard. It is built with bricks and holds water when it rains.

The previous owner told me he never used it, and disclosure says there
is no permit for it.

Here is the problem. It has a gas line running into the fire pit
(appears to be from under ground) It has a nut at the end of the pipe,
and just near the pit there is a plate on the ground with a couple of
tiny knobs on the ground that's has label "LP"? or something, is this
a valve control of some sort?

I havn't trace where this pipe is coming from, might be tapping from
the gas line in the house under the crawl space and running below the
backyard concrete slabs?

The pipe is also just steel and it is rusting. I want to figure out
how this thing works. I wouldn't mind cutting off the gas pipe from
the possible "tee" inside the house and capping it off there. I
wouldn't mind it being just a regular log burning pit if I have to..

Do I need a burner or some sort to try it out? Also what do I do
about the pipe being corroded?

LP = liquid petroleum or propane depends on where you live what you call it.

Time to get some one that can track the line. There should be a place where
the tank sat that fed this pit. This is probably remote from the pit.

the controls could be from anything and are meaningless for now.

Yes you need a burner to make it work.
http://www.bbqguys.com/outdoor-fireplaces.asp

Trace the piping and valuing until you understand what is installed. OR hire
a pro to check it out and explain it to you.

My first ring that I made was 12 inches in diameter. I buried it under
white sand and it was a wonderful flame, almost 10 inches high. It raced
around the pit and damn I felt good. Emptied the 20 pound tank in 30
minutes. Back to the drawing board, welded over many of the holes I had so
diligently installed.
Best of luck

The PP-LL stands for Price Pfister Log Lighter valve. It is a common gas
valve used on log lighters in fireplaces. It uses a 5/16" key found at most
fireplace shops. You would turn that key and light the burner with a match.

wrote in message
ups.com...
The plate near the firepit is round and chrome plated with one small
square in the middle. One side of the plate says L-L and the other
side says P-P.
Am I missing a knob that will fit over the square?

The plate is also positioned directly outside the firepit in line of
where the pipe enters the pit. So it might be some kind of shut off
valve.

Alan Smithee wrote:
jj3000 wrote:
When I bought the house it had a firepit built in a concrete area
of
the backyard. It is built with bricks and holds water when it
rains.

The previous owner told me he never used it, and disclosure says
there
is no permit for it.

Here is the problem. It has a gas line running into the fire pit
(appears to be from under ground) It has a nut at the end of the
pipe,
and just near the pit there is a plate on the ground with a couple
of
tiny knobs on the ground that's has label "LP"? or something, is
this
a valve control of some sort?

I havn't trace where this pipe is coming from, might be tapping
from
the gas line in the house under the crawl space and running below
the
backyard concrete slabs?

The pipe is also just steel and it is rusting. I want to figure
out
how this thing works. I wouldn't mind cutting off the gas pipe
from
the possible "tee" inside the house and capping it off there. I
wouldn't mind it being just a regular log burning pit if I have
to..

Do I need a burner or some sort to try it out? Also what do I do
about the pipe being corroded?

Could have been a hook up for a propane BBQ. Is there a propane
storage tank
on the property. There should be a shutoff in any event. Be careful.
You may
need to dig around a bit. Be even more careful.

Hi.. could the use of this brand/type of valve imply that it is using
the gas line from the house instead of a portable propane tank.

I have looked everywhere for a propane tank fitting in my backyard but
failed to locate one.



"John Galbreath Jr." wrote in message ...
The PP-LL stands for Price Pfister Log Lighter valve. It is a common gas
valve used on log lighters in fireplaces. It uses a 5/16" key found at most
fireplace shops. You would turn that key and light the burner with a match.

wrote in message
ups.com...
The plate near the firepit is round and chrome plated with one small
square in the middle. One side of the plate says L-L and the other
side says P-P.
Am I missing a knob that will fit over the square?

The plate is also positioned directly outside the firepit in line of
where the pipe enters the pit. So it might be some kind of shut off
valve.

Alan Smithee wrote:
jj3000 wrote:
When I bought the house it had a firepit built in a concrete area
of
the backyard. It is built with bricks and holds water when it
rains.

The previous owner told me he never used it, and disclosure says
there
is no permit for it.

Here is the problem. It has a gas line running into the fire pit
(appears to be from under ground) It has a nut at the end of the
pipe,
and just near the pit there is a plate on the ground with a couple
of
tiny knobs on the ground that's has label "LP"? or something, is
this
a valve control of some sort?

I havn't trace where this pipe is coming from, might be tapping
from
the gas line in the house under the crawl space and running below
the
backyard concrete slabs?

The pipe is also just steel and it is rusting. I want to figure
out
how this thing works. I wouldn't mind cutting off the gas pipe
from
the possible "tee" inside the house and capping it off there. I
wouldn't mind it being just a regular log burning pit if I have
to..

Do I need a burner or some sort to try it out? Also what do I do
about the pipe being corroded?

Could have been a hook up for a propane BBQ. Is there a propane
storage tank
on the property. There should be a shutoff in any event. Be careful.
You may
need to dig around a bit. Be even more careful.

Sorry, I don't read the group much anymore, but, yes it could be natural
gas.

"jj3000" wrote in message
om...
Hi.. could the use of this brand/type of valve imply that it is using
the gas line from the house instead of a portable propane tank.

I have looked everywhere for a propane tank fitting in my backyard but
failed to locate one.



"John Galbreath Jr." wrote in message
...
The PP-LL stands for Price Pfister Log Lighter valve. It is a common gas
valve used on log lighters in fireplaces. It uses a 5/16" key found at
most
fireplace shops. You would turn that key and light the burner with a
match.

wrote in message
ups.com...
The plate near the firepit is round and chrome plated with one small
square in the middle. One side of the plate says L-L and the other
side says P-P.
Am I missing a knob that will fit over the square?

The plate is also positioned directly outside the firepit in line of
where the pipe enters the pit. So it might be some kind of shut off
valve.

Alan Smithee wrote:
jj3000 wrote:
When I bought the house it had a firepit built in a concrete area
of
the backyard. It is built with bricks and holds water when it
rains.

The previous owner told me he never used it, and disclosure says
there
is no permit for it.

Here is the problem. It has a gas line running into the fire pit
(appears to be from under ground) It has a nut at the end of the
pipe,
and just near the pit there is a plate on the ground with a couple
of
tiny knobs on the ground that's has label "LP"? or something, is
this
a valve control of some sort?

I havn't trace where this pipe is coming from, might be tapping
from
the gas line in the house under the crawl space and running below
the
backyard concrete slabs?

The pipe is also just steel and it is rusting. I want to figure
out
how this thing works. I wouldn't mind cutting off the gas pipe
from
the possible "tee" inside the house and capping it off there. I
wouldn't mind it being just a regular log burning pit if I have
to..

Do I need a burner or some sort to try it out? Also what do I do
about the pipe being corroded?

Could have been a hook up for a propane BBQ. Is there a propane
storage tank
on the property. There should be a shutoff in any event. Be careful.
You may
need to dig around a bit. Be even more careful.