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Flashlight Test
Just got my box from Harbor Freight ( www.harborfreight.com ) and it
contained my 2 AA cell miniature flash light. Catalog number 3852-8JMA, costing $1.99 for the flash light. Incidentally, there was shipping costs on the order. And here is what I found.... The light is 6 3/4 inches over all. Slightly longer than a mini mag which is 5 3/4. This is a concern. A mini mag fits nicely in my bathrobe pocket. And also in my front pants pocket. The inch longer light would not fit in either of these pockets. The batteries supplied were the cheapie carbon cells. Panasonic. Good brand, though. The brand of light is "Gordon" which I've not heard of that brand. There is a sticker which instructs me to always wear safety glasses. It further instructs me not to remove the sticker. Wonder if the same folks that arrested me for removing my tag from my matress would get me if I removed this sticker? I don't want to find out, the Department of Matress Tags guys sure play rough. The on off switch is a push button on the side. The light turns on when I lift my thumb off the button, so it does not have "instant on" or momentary contact. The lens is adjustable, spot to flood. The lens is round, so it doesn't have the 8 sided "won't roll off the table" design. The bulb appears to be the same bi-pin bulb which is used by Mini-Mag. I didn't see if they are interchangable, but very likely are. The tail cap did contain a spare bulb. I pounded and whacked the tail cap, and could not get the bulb out. I needed a mini pair of needle nose pliers to get the bulb out. I did not try my Leatherman pliers -- they might be too big. They did provide a nylon belt case for the light. The belt case appears to be the same design as the Mini Mag case, it seems a bit short for the Gordon light. Makes me wonder if the light would fall out easily. I've got enough stuff on my belt already, didn't try it. Summary: This light is well worth the two bucks plus shipping. It appears to be fairly well made, and should provide at least two dollars worth of service. I would reccomend using alkaline batteries. The provided carbon batteries can be used for TV remote, or other low drain application. The filament bulb should be EMP safe, if you are concerned about having a light after a nuclear explosion. I'm going to put a couple of these lights in my glove compartments, tool boxes, etc. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org www.mormons.com |
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Subject: Flashlight Test
Newsgroup: alt.home.repair = Stormin Mormon = wrote: And here is what I found.... Who gives a ****? Really dood.... You wrote an essay about a lousy 2 dollar flashlight. -- -Graham Remove the 'snails' from my email |
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It's obvious to me that we have different interests. I sure hope you enjoy
your life as much as I enjoy mine. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org www.mormons.com "G. Morgan" wrote in message ... Subject: Flashlight Test Newsgroup: alt.home.repair = Stormin Mormon = wrote: And here is what I found.... Who gives a ****? Really dood.... You wrote an essay about a lousy 2 dollar flashlight. -- -Graham Remove the 'snails' from my email |
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Stormin Mormon wrote:
Just got my box from Harbor Freight ( www.harborfreight.com ) and it contained my 2 AA cell miniature flash light. Catalog number 3852-8JMA, costing $1.99 for the flash light. Incidentally, there was shipping costs on the order. /snip/ Thanks for the review - will pick up a couple next time I'm at HF. |
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They opened a HF outlet store about 30 mintues drive from me, and I've
enjoyed shopping there. Nice to get HF stuff cash and carry. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org www.mormons.com "Travis Jordan" wrote in message news /snip/ Thanks for the review - will pick up a couple next time I'm at HF. |
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Do you really want to put carbon batteries in your $35.00 TV remote and
have them leak or that $2.00 flashlight? -- Joseph Meehan 26 + 6 = 1 It's Irish Math "Stormin Mormon" wrote in message ... Just got my box from Harbor Freight ( www.harborfreight.com ) and it contained my 2 AA cell miniature flash light. Catalog number 3852-8JMA, costing $1.99 for the flash light. Incidentally, there was shipping costs on the order. And here is what I found.... The light is 6 3/4 inches over all. Slightly longer than a mini mag which is 5 3/4. This is a concern. A mini mag fits nicely in my bathrobe pocket. And also in my front pants pocket. The inch longer light would not fit in either of these pockets. The batteries supplied were the cheapie carbon cells. Panasonic. Good brand, though. The brand of light is "Gordon" which I've not heard of that brand. There is a sticker which instructs me to always wear safety glasses. It further instructs me not to remove the sticker. Wonder if the same folks that arrested me for removing my tag from my matress would get me if I removed this sticker? I don't want to find out, the Department of Matress Tags guys sure play rough. The on off switch is a push button on the side. The light turns on when I lift my thumb off the button, so it does not have "instant on" or momentary contact. The lens is adjustable, spot to flood. The lens is round, so it doesn't have the 8 sided "won't roll off the table" design. The bulb appears to be the same bi-pin bulb which is used by Mini-Mag. I didn't see if they are interchangable, but very likely are. The tail cap did contain a spare bulb. I pounded and whacked the tail cap, and could not get the bulb out. I needed a mini pair of needle nose pliers to get the bulb out. I did not try my Leatherman pliers -- they might be too big. They did provide a nylon belt case for the light. The belt case appears to be the same design as the Mini Mag case, it seems a bit short for the Gordon light. Makes me wonder if the light would fall out easily. I've got enough stuff on my belt already, didn't try it. Summary: This light is well worth the two bucks plus shipping. It appears to be fairly well made, and should provide at least two dollars worth of service. I would reccomend using alkaline batteries. The provided carbon batteries can be used for TV remote, or other low drain application. The filament bulb should be EMP safe, if you are concerned about having a light after a nuclear explosion. I'm going to put a couple of these lights in my glove compartments, tool boxes, etc. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org www.mormons.com |
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And here is what I found....
Finally a reason to go on living. Thanks for saving my life today. |
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Tomorrow I do a review of Q-tips and other brands of cotton swabs. Lets see
where I put that file...... -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org www.mormons.com "Sam O'Nella" wrote in message ... And here is what I found.... Finally a reason to go on living. Thanks for saving my life today. |
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The test you need for your flash light is to put it to your ear in a dark
room. If you see light coming out the other side, there's a problem. A lot of that problem is in your sig file... "Stormin Mormon" wrote in message ... Just got my box from Harbor Freight ( www.harborfreight.com ) and it contained my 2 AA cell miniature flash light. Catalog number 3852-8JMA, costing $1.99 for the flash light. Incidentally, there was shipping costs on the order. And here is what I found.... The light is 6 3/4 inches over all. Slightly longer than a mini mag which is 5 3/4. This is a concern. A mini mag fits nicely in my bathrobe pocket. And also in my front pants pocket. The inch longer light would not fit in either of these pockets. The batteries supplied were the cheapie carbon cells. Panasonic. Good brand, though. The brand of light is "Gordon" which I've not heard of that brand. There is a sticker which instructs me to always wear safety glasses. It further instructs me not to remove the sticker. Wonder if the same folks that arrested me for removing my tag from my matress would get me if I removed this sticker? I don't want to find out, the Department of Matress Tags guys sure play rough. The on off switch is a push button on the side. The light turns on when I lift my thumb off the button, so it does not have "instant on" or momentary contact. The lens is adjustable, spot to flood. The lens is round, so it doesn't have the 8 sided "won't roll off the table" design. The bulb appears to be the same bi-pin bulb which is used by Mini-Mag. I didn't see if they are interchangable, but very likely are. The tail cap did contain a spare bulb. I pounded and whacked the tail cap, and could not get the bulb out. I needed a mini pair of needle nose pliers to get the bulb out. I did not try my Leatherman pliers -- they might be too big. They did provide a nylon belt case for the light. The belt case appears to be the same design as the Mini Mag case, it seems a bit short for the Gordon light. Makes me wonder if the light would fall out easily. I've got enough stuff on my belt already, didn't try it. Summary: This light is well worth the two bucks plus shipping. It appears to be fairly well made, and should provide at least two dollars worth of service. I would reccomend using alkaline batteries. The provided carbon batteries can be used for TV remote, or other low drain application. The filament bulb should be EMP safe, if you are concerned about having a light after a nuclear explosion. I'm going to put a couple of these lights in my glove compartments, tool boxes, etc. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org www.mormons.com |
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Stormin Mormon wrote:
Just got my box from Harbor Freight ( www.harborfreight.com ) and it contained my 2 AA cell miniature flash light. Catalog number 3852-8JMA, costing $1.99 for the flash light. Incidentally, there was shipping costs on the order. And here is what I found.... The light is 6 3/4 inches over all. Slightly longer than a mini mag which is 5 3/4. This is a concern. A mini mag fits nicely in my bathrobe pocket. And also in my front pants pocket. The inch longer light would not fit in either of these pockets. The batteries supplied were the cheapie carbon cells. Panasonic. Good brand, though. The brand of light is "Gordon" which I've not heard of that brand. There is a sticker which instructs me to always wear safety glasses. It further instructs me not to remove the sticker. Wonder if the same folks that arrested me for removing my tag from my matress would get me if I removed this sticker? I don't want to find out, the Department of Matress Tags guys sure play rough. The on off switch is a push button on the side. The light turns on when I lift my thumb off the button, so it does not have "instant on" or momentary contact. The lens is adjustable, spot to flood. The lens is round, so it doesn't have the 8 sided "won't roll off the table" design. The bulb appears to be the same bi-pin bulb which is used by Mini-Mag. I didn't see if they are interchangable, but very likely are. The tail cap did contain a spare bulb. I pounded and whacked the tail cap, and could not get the bulb out. I needed a mini pair of needle nose pliers to get the bulb out. I did not try my Leatherman pliers -- they might be too big. They did provide a nylon belt case for the light. The belt case appears to be the same design as the Mini Mag case, it seems a bit short for the Gordon light. Makes me wonder if the light would fall out easily. I've got enough stuff on my belt already, didn't try it. Summary: This light is well worth the two bucks plus shipping. It appears to be fairly well made, and should provide at least two dollars worth of service. I would reccomend using alkaline batteries. The provided carbon batteries can be used for TV remote, or other low drain application. The filament bulb should be EMP safe, if you are concerned about having a light after a nuclear explosion. I'm going to put a couple of these lights in my glove compartments, tool boxes, etc. Hi, I am done with bulbs. Time for LED flash lights. Tony |
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"Stormin Mormon" wrote in message ... Just got my box from Harbor Freight ( www.harborfreight.com ) and it contained my 2 AA cell miniature flash light. Catalog number 3852-8JMA, costing $1.99 for the flash light. Incidentally, there was shipping costs on the order. And here is what I found.... The light is 6 3/4 inches over all. Slightly longer than a mini mag which is 5 3/4. This is a concern. A mini mag fits nicely in my bathrobe pocket. And also in my front pants pocket. The inch longer light would not fit in either of these pockets. The batteries supplied were the cheapie carbon cells. Panasonic. Good brand, though. The brand of light is "Gordon" which I've not heard of that brand. There is a sticker which instructs me to always wear safety glasses. It further instructs me not to remove the sticker. Wonder if the same folks that arrested me for removing my tag from my matress would get me if I removed this sticker? I don't want to find out, the Department of Matress Tags guys sure play rough. The on off switch is a push button on the side. The light turns on when I lift my thumb off the button, so it does not have "instant on" or momentary contact. The lens is adjustable, spot to flood. The lens is round, so it doesn't have the 8 sided "won't roll off the table" design. The bulb appears to be the same bi-pin bulb which is used by Mini-Mag. I didn't see if they are interchangable, but very likely are. The tail cap did contain a spare bulb. I pounded and whacked the tail cap, and could not get the bulb out. I needed a mini pair of needle nose pliers to get the bulb out. I did not try my Leatherman pliers -- they might be too big. They did provide a nylon belt case for the light. The belt case appears to be the same design as the Mini Mag case, it seems a bit short for the Gordon light. Makes me wonder if the light would fall out easily. I've got enough stuff on my belt already, didn't try it. Summary: This light is well worth the two bucks plus shipping. It appears to be fairly well made, and should provide at least two dollars worth of service. I would reccomend using alkaline batteries. The provided carbon batteries can be used for TV remote, or other low drain application. The filament bulb should be EMP safe, if you are concerned about having a light after a nuclear explosion. I'm going to put a couple of these lights in my glove compartments, tool boxes, etc. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org www.mormons.com Can you spell T R O L L ????? |
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Ross Mac posted for all of us....
"Stormin Mormon" wrote in message ... Just got my box from Harbor Freight ( www.harborfreight.com ) and it contained my 2 AA cell miniature flash light. Catalog number 3852-8JMA, costing $1.99 for the flash light. Incidentally, there was shipping costs on the order. And here is what I found.... The light is 6 3/4 inches over all. Slightly longer than a mini mag which is 5 3/4. This is a concern. A mini mag fits nicely in my bathrobe pocket. And also in my front pants pocket. The inch longer light would not fit in either of these pockets. The batteries supplied were the cheapie carbon cells. Panasonic. Good brand, though. The brand of light is "Gordon" which I've not heard of that brand. There is a sticker which instructs me to always wear safety glasses. It further instructs me not to remove the sticker. Wonder if the same folks that arrested me for removing my tag from my matress would get me if I removed this sticker? I don't want to find out, the Department of Matress Tags guys sure play rough. The on off switch is a push button on the side. The light turns on when I lift my thumb off the button, so it does not have "instant on" or momentary contact. The lens is adjustable, spot to flood. The lens is round, so it doesn't have the 8 sided "won't roll off the table" design. The bulb appears to be the same bi-pin bulb which is used by Mini-Mag. I didn't see if they are interchangable, but very likely are. The tail cap did contain a spare bulb. I pounded and whacked the tail cap, and could not get the bulb out. I needed a mini pair of needle nose pliers to get the bulb out. I did not try my Leatherman pliers -- they might be too big. They did provide a nylon belt case for the light. The belt case appears to Nah Ross, the Stumped Moron isn't a troll; just an idiot, hack, HVAC, locksmith wannabe. -- Tekkie |
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"Tekkie" wrote in message t... Ross Mac posted for all of us.... "Stormin Mormon" wrote in message ... Just got my box from Harbor Freight ( www.harborfreight.com ) and it contained my 2 AA cell miniature flash light. Catalog number 3852-8JMA, costing $1.99 for the flash light. Incidentally, there was shipping costs on the order. And here is what I found.... The light is 6 3/4 inches over all. Slightly longer than a mini mag which is 5 3/4. This is a concern. A mini mag fits nicely in my bathrobe pocket. And also in my front pants pocket. The inch longer light would not fit in either of these pockets. The batteries supplied were the cheapie carbon cells. Panasonic. Good brand, though. The brand of light is "Gordon" which I've not heard of that brand. There is a sticker which instructs me to always wear safety glasses. It further instructs me not to remove the sticker. Wonder if the same folks that arrested me for removing my tag from my matress would get me if I removed this sticker? I don't want to find out, the Department of Matress Tags guys sure play rough. The on off switch is a push button on the side. The light turns on when I lift my thumb off the button, so it does not have "instant on" or momentary contact. The lens is adjustable, spot to flood. The lens is round, so it doesn't have the 8 sided "won't roll off the table" design. The bulb appears to be the same bi-pin bulb which is used by Mini-Mag. I didn't see if they are interchangable, but very likely are. The tail cap did contain a spare bulb. I pounded and whacked the tail cap, and could not get the bulb out. I needed a mini pair of needle nose pliers to get the bulb out. I did not try my Leatherman pliers -- they might be too big. They did provide a nylon belt case for the light. The belt case appears to Nah Ross, the Stumped Moron isn't a troll; just an idiot, hack, HVAC, locksmith wannabe. -- Tekkie Wow....a left hook and an upper cut!..... :) ...Ross |
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Stormin , Id like a test on the Vegamatic or Popiel Pocket Fisherman or
the Clapper #2 Get you own site "Tests by Stormin" get advertising , get rich. |
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..............Stormin staggers, steps back three steps, shakes his head.....
and clicks send....... -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org www.mormons.com "Ross Mac" wrote in message ... Nah Ross, the Stumped Moron isn't a troll; just an idiot, hack, HVAC, locksmith wannabe. -- Tekkie Wow....a left hook and an upper cut!..... :) ...Ross |
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with led flashlights in existence now, regular flashlights are obsolete due
to their high usage of batteries, no wonder they're being given away for example, this led flashlight takes 2 aa batteries and "This light provide up to 20 times longer battery life than standard flashlights. LED bulbs last up to 100,000 hours (over 11 years) of continuous use with change of batteries. Constructed of tough ABS plastic with rubber grips. Water and shock proof!" http://www.eangler.com/webapp/wcs/st...atalogId=10051 a small pocket size lithium battery operated led flashlight http://www.photonlight.com/index.html?1024 were you aware the end user (consumer) can legally remove the tags from mattresses? grounds for false arrest? "Stormin Mormon" wrote in message ... Just got my box from Harbor Freight ( www.harborfreight.com ) and it contained my 2 AA cell miniature flash light. Catalog number 3852-8JMA, costing $1.99 for the flash light. Incidentally, there was shipping costs on the order. And here is what I found.... The light is 6 3/4 inches over all. Slightly longer than a mini mag which is 5 3/4. This is a concern. A mini mag fits nicely in my bathrobe pocket. And also in my front pants pocket. The inch longer light would not fit in either of these pockets. The batteries supplied were the cheapie carbon cells. Panasonic. Good brand, though. The brand of light is "Gordon" which I've not heard of that brand. There is a sticker which instructs me to always wear safety glasses. It further instructs me not to remove the sticker. Wonder if the same folks that arrested me for removing my tag from my matress would get me if I removed this sticker? I don't want to find out, the Department of Matress Tags guys sure play rough. The on off switch is a push button on the side. The light turns on when I lift my thumb off the button, so it does not have "instant on" or momentary contact. The lens is adjustable, spot to flood. The lens is round, so it doesn't have the 8 sided "won't roll off the table" design. The bulb appears to be the same bi-pin bulb which is used by Mini-Mag. I didn't see if they are interchangable, but very likely are. The tail cap did contain a spare bulb. I pounded and whacked the tail cap, and could not get the bulb out. I needed a mini pair of needle nose pliers to get the bulb out. I did not try my Leatherman pliers -- they might be too big. They did provide a nylon belt case for the light. The belt case appears to be the same design as the Mini Mag case, it seems a bit short for the Gordon light. Makes me wonder if the light would fall out easily. I've got enough stuff on my belt already, didn't try it. Summary: This light is well worth the two bucks plus shipping. It appears to be fairly well made, and should provide at least two dollars worth of service. I would reccomend using alkaline batteries. The provided carbon batteries can be used for TV remote, or other low drain application. The filament bulb should be EMP safe, if you are concerned about having a light after a nuclear explosion. I'm going to put a couple of these lights in my glove compartments, tool boxes, etc. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org www.mormons.com |
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Subject: Flashlight Test
Newsgroup: alt.home.repair = effi = wrote: were you aware the my suckin meath ohhhh, realllllyyyy??? Another idiot to add to the BOZO bin...... -- -Graham Remove the 'snails' from my email |
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illiterate
PLONK ! "G. Morgan" wrote in message were you aware the my suckin meath |
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Subject: Flashlight Test
Newsgroup: alt.home.repair = effi = wrote: illiterate men make joy jelly in my mouth for pleasure Quit emiling me. I'll call the cops, you sick ****. -- -Graham Remove the 'snails' from my email |
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Stormin,
Thanks for the review. It was a bit off topic in a home repair group, but I'd certain rather read a review about a Harbor Freight bargain than to read the 9,000th admonition from some HVAC guy telling us we are all too stupid to fix our own furnaces and AC units. What I really don't understand is why people bother to read a thread titled "Flashlight Test" if they don't want to read about a flashlight test and they are going to whine and moan after reading it. Regarding Harbor Freight (and Homier Tools and Cummins Tools, etc.) - there is certainly some junk, but there are a lot of great bargain tools. Especially the tools which we amateurs use somewhat infrequently. I've spent a lot of money with these bargain tool companies and my satisfaction level has been at least 95%. And when I'm not satisfied with a purchase, they always give me a refund. I'll going to a Harbor Freight retail store today and I'll check out the flashlights if they have them. Of course, I do agree that LED lights are the preferred tool. Gideon ================================ Stormin Mormon wrote in message ... Just got my box from Harbor Freight ( www.harborfreight.com ) and it contained my 2 AA cell miniature flash light. Catalog number 3852-8JMA, costing $1.99 for the flash light. Incidentally, there was shipping costs on the order. And here is what I found.... The light is 6 3/4 inches over all. Slightly longer than a mini mag which is 5 3/4. This is a concern. A mini mag fits nicely in my bathrobe pocket. And also in my front pants pocket. The inch longer light would not fit in either of these pockets. The batteries supplied were the cheapie carbon cells. Panasonic. Good brand, though. The brand of light is "Gordon" which I've not heard of that brand. There is a sticker which instructs me to always wear safety glasses. It further instructs me not to remove the sticker. Wonder if the same folks that arrested me for removing my tag from my matress would get me if I removed this sticker? I don't want to find out, the Department of Matress Tags guys sure play rough. The on off switch is a push button on the side. The light turns on when I lift my thumb off the button, so it does not have "instant on" or momentary contact. The lens is adjustable, spot to flood. The lens is round, so it doesn't have the 8 sided "won't roll off the table" design. The bulb appears to be the same bi-pin bulb which is used by Mini-Mag. I didn't see if they are interchangable, but very likely are. The tail cap did contain a spare bulb. I pounded and whacked the tail cap, and could not get the bulb out. I needed a mini pair of needle nose pliers to get the bulb out. I did not try my Leatherman pliers -- they might be too big. They did provide a nylon belt case for the light. The belt case appears to be the same design as the Mini Mag case, it seems a bit short for the Gordon light. Makes me wonder if the light would fall out easily. I've got enough stuff on my belt already, didn't try it. Summary: This light is well worth the two bucks plus shipping. It appears to be fairly well made, and should provide at least two dollars worth of service. I would reccomend using alkaline batteries. The provided carbon batteries can be used for TV remote, or other low drain application. The filament bulb should be EMP safe, if you are concerned about having a light after a nuclear explosion. I'm going to put a couple of these lights in my glove compartments, tool boxes, etc. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org www.mormons.com |
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Like you say, it's a bit off topic. Ah, well. At the HF store near me, the
flash lights are in the glass case, at the cash register. Hope you get some bargains. Let us know what you got, and if you like it. We can keep this conversation way off topic.... (Incidentally, dunno if you noticed, I *AM* a heating guy..... but I try never to be insulting.) -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org www.mormons.com "Gideon" wrote in message ... Stormin, Thanks for the review. It was a bit off topic in a home repair group, but I'd certain rather read a review about a Harbor Freight bargain than to read the 9,000th admonition from some HVAC guy telling us we are all too stupid to fix our own furnaces and AC units. What I really don't understand is why people bother to read a thread titled "Flashlight Test" if they don't want to read about a flashlight test and they are going to whine and moan after reading it. Regarding Harbor Freight (and Homier Tools and Cummins Tools, etc.) - there is certainly some junk, but there are a lot of great bargain tools. Especially the tools which we amateurs use somewhat infrequently. I've spent a lot of money with these bargain tool companies and my satisfaction level has been at least 95%. And when I'm not satisfied with a purchase, they always give me a refund. I'll going to a Harbor Freight retail store today and I'll check out the flashlights if they have them. Of course, I do agree that LED lights are the preferred tool. Gideon ================================ Stormin Mormon wrote in message ... Just got my box from Harbor Freight ( www.harborfreight.com ) and it contained my 2 AA cell miniature flash light. Catalog number 3852-8JMA, costing $1.99 for the flash light. Incidentally, there was |
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Stormin Mormon wrote Incidentally, dunno if you noticed, I *AM* a heating guy ..... but I try never to be insulting. Yes - I have noticed that you are a heating guy and I've notice that you come out here to be helpful rather than smug. It is appreciated. I'm a computer guy. People corner me at parties and other get- togethers and pump me for free advice. Others phone me in the middle of my work day and I talk them through a problem over the phone for free. I seldom resent it and I take pleasure in helping somebody solve a problem himself. I'm still going to make a living even if some segment of society can fix their own computer problems or write their own computer code. I'm just not that insecure in my skills or my career. I still haven't figured out why HVAC folks seem to be so particularly touchy and caustic. My auto mechanic doesn't resent the fact that I do 90% of my car repairs myself. He appreciates the fact that he's still getting 10% of my work plus the many referrals that I send his way. |
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Gideon posted for all of us....
Stormin Mormon wrote Incidentally, dunno if you noticed, I *AM* a heating guy ..... but I try never to be insulting. Yes - I have noticed that you are a heating guy and I've notice that you come out here to be helpful rather than smug. He gives one that "impression" but he is a hack! He won't learn, he gives out dangerous advice and shows NO signs of improvement in spite of coddling by more knowledgeable people who have given up in frustration. He also claims to be a locksmith but busts door jambs and takes money off drunks - by his OWN admission! It is appreciated. Not by anyone that has the least bit of common sense, knowledge of topics in which he "claims" to know about or cares about their family's safety. I'm a computer guy. People corner me at parties and other get- togethers and pump me for free advice. Others phone me in the middle of my work day and I talk them through a problem over the phone for free. I seldom resent it and I take pleasure in helping somebody solve a problem himself. I'm still going to make a living even if some segment of society can fix their own computer problems or write their own computer code. I'm just not that insecure in my skills or my career. Big deal; you smoke a power supply and people won't die. I still haven't figured out why HVAC folks seem to be so particularly touchy and caustic. My auto mechanic doesn't resent the fact that I do 90% of my car repairs myself. He appreciates the fact that he's still getting 10% of my work plus the many referrals that I send his way. Most of the HVAC people will give an answer here if the question hasn't been asked 5 bizallion times before, nobody does any research anymore... Your auto mechanic can see what your abilities are, can't see HVAC over the net. Would you tell some person who you have no idea of their abilities how to diagnose and repair a complex brake repair over the net? -- Tekkie |
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Tekkie wrote
He gives one that "impression" but he is a hack! Tekkie, I apologize if Stormin is a hack and I missed it. When it comes to HVAC, I really have one major list in my mind - jerks vs nonjerks. I've got a non-trivial knowledge of HVAC, I have family members in the trade (some good, some so-so), and I have some amateur friends who are extremely knowledgable. So I'm not really looking for HVAC advice, I'm mostly noticing the jerks. Stormin isn't a jerk. That was my point. I'll have to pay more attention and decide on my own about the value of his advice. Gideon |
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Tekkie wrote Would you tell some person who you have no idea of their abilities how to diagnose and repair a complex brake repair over the net? =================== Nope. But I wouldn't treat him as an idiot just because he may not have the experience or the training which I have. I've done my own brake work for over 40 years and I've never hired anybody to do the work for me. And I've NEVER done a bad brake job. I've also offered advice to anybody who wants to do their own brake work. If they appear incompetent, then I advise them to farm out the work. If they appear reasonably competent, then I offer them my tools, books, advice and assistance. I enjoy helping people; you appear to enjoy acting like a smug asshole. To each his own. Gideon |
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Good computer guys are hard to find. It is a pleasure to make your
aquaintance. Ah, well. Sometimes I turn away work, and somtimes it finds me anyhow. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org www.mormons.com "Gideon" wrote in message ... Stormin Mormon wrote Incidentally, dunno if you noticed, I *AM* a heating guy ..... but I try never to be insulting. Yes - I have noticed that you are a heating guy and I've notice that you come out here to be helpful rather than smug. It is appreciated. I'm a computer guy. People corner me at parties and other get- togethers and pump me for free advice. Others phone me in the middle of my work day and I talk them through a problem over the phone for free. I seldom resent it and I take pleasure in helping somebody solve a problem himself. I'm still going to make a living even if some segment of society can fix their own computer problems or write their own computer code. I'm just not that insecure in my skills or my career. I still haven't figured out why HVAC folks seem to be so particularly touchy and caustic. My auto mechanic doesn't resent the fact that I do 90% of my car repairs myself. He appreciates the fact that he's still getting 10% of my work plus the many referrals that I send his way. |
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Stormin,
Maybe I'm a sap, but I've been on this earth a fair number of years and I've learned to prioritize my criteria. When I hire somebody, the first thing that I'm looking for is somebody who is honest and truthful. Do I really want Albert Einstein if I determine that his primary motive is to rape me? Nope! Once again, you come across as somebody who is sincere in his desire to help people and who will admit his limitations. That's all I expect from Usenet. Thanks, Gideon Stormin Mormon wrote in message ... Good computer guys are hard to find. It is a pleasure to make your aquaintance. Ah, well. Sometimes I turn away work, and somtimes it finds me anyhow. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org www.mormons.com "Gideon" wrote in message ... Stormin Mormon wrote Incidentally, dunno if you noticed, I *AM* a heating guy ..... but I try never to be insulting. Yes - I have noticed that you are a heating guy and I've notice that you come out here to be helpful rather than smug. It is appreciated. I'm a computer guy. People corner me at parties and other get- togethers and pump me for free advice. Others phone me in the middle of my work day and I talk them through a problem over the phone for free. I seldom resent it and I take pleasure in helping somebody solve a problem himself. I'm still going to make a living even if some segment of society can fix their own computer problems or write their own computer code. I'm just not that insecure in my skills or my career. I still haven't figured out why HVAC folks seem to be so particularly touchy and caustic. My auto mechanic doesn't resent the fact that I do 90% of my car repairs myself. He appreciates the fact that he's still getting 10% of my work plus the many referrals that I send his way. |
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