Good morning,

Last week I think some of the neighborhood kids went wild with their pellet
guns.

The result was ....I now have a broken second story window. No one fessed up
and insurance is saying it's my baby with $500 deductible.

How do you remove the vinyl trim from the inside without damage? I assume
this trim snaps in somehow and can be removed. I poked around with a screw
driver but decided I should ask a few questions before I screw it up.

I would like to do this myself...... repair guy is talking $ 300 to 400 to
replace the entire window. He says the double pane can't be removed must
replace the whole thing (remove, replace, drywall & repaint).

I think this is bull........worse it took 4 phone calls to get the guy to
look at it and another 4 so far to get a response (he said he wanted to talk
to the original installer). We phoned the original installer and they gave
us this guy to do the repair. All of this smells seriously wrong (rip off
in the making)

Any tips and information would be greatly appreciated given I'd like to
minimize my out of pocket costs.

Please reply to the group and Thank you in advance.

Subject: How to you replace broken glass in a vinyl window?
From: "Stanky"
Date: 12/12/2004 10:47 A.M. Eastern Standard Time
Message-id:

Good morning,

Last week I think some of the neighborhood kids went wild with their pellet
guns.

The result was ....I now have a broken second story window. No one fessed up
and insurance is saying it's my baby with $500 deductible.

How do you remove the vinyl trim from the inside without damage? I assume
this trim snaps in somehow and can be removed. I poked around with a screw
driver but decided I should ask a few questions before I screw it up.

I would like to do this myself...... repair guy is talking $ 300 to 400 to
replace the entire window. He says the double pane can't be removed must
replace the whole thing (remove, replace, drywall & repaint).

I think this is bull........worse it took 4 phone calls to get the guy to
look at it and another 4 so far to get a response (he said he wanted to talk
to the original installer). We phoned the original installer and they gave
us this guy to do the repair. All of this smells seriously wrong (rip off
in the making)

Any tips and information would be greatly appreciated given I'd like to
minimize my out of pocket costs.

Please reply to the group and Thank you in advance.










what type of vinyl window is it, double hung, picture, casement and is it
welded or a mechanically fastened window. IF it is a welded double hung I
would just ask the original installer to oreder you a new sash. the price for
that should be about 50-100 depending on size and you can put it in your self.

That only works if you know who made the window, if they are still in
business, and if they still make that style using the same extrusions.

That is why I would never purchase welded vinyl windows, because you are
trapped. If you cannot get an original replacement, and thermopane glass
does not always last more than 10 years, you have to buy another window
unit, which means a style change and damage to mouldings, paint and
decorating each time.

"PAUL100" wrote in message
...
Subject: How to you replace broken glass in a vinyl window?
From: "Stanky"
Date: 12/12/2004 10:47 A.M. Eastern Standard Time
Message-id:

Good morning,

Last week I think some of the neighborhood kids went wild with their
pellet
guns.

The result was ....I now have a broken second story window. No one fessed
up
and insurance is saying it's my baby with $500 deductible.

How do you remove the vinyl trim from the inside without damage? I assume
this trim snaps in somehow and can be removed. I poked around with a
screw
driver but decided I should ask a few questions before I screw it up.

I would like to do this myself...... repair guy is talking $ 300 to 400
to
replace the entire window. He says the double pane can't be removed must
replace the whole thing (remove, replace, drywall & repaint).

I think this is bull........worse it took 4 phone calls to get the guy to
look at it and another 4 so far to get a response (he said he wanted to
talk
to the original installer). We phoned the original installer and they
gave
us this guy to do the repair. All of this smells seriously wrong (rip
off
in the making)

Any tips and information would be greatly appreciated given I'd like to
minimize my out of pocket costs.

Please reply to the group and Thank you in advance.










what type of vinyl window is it, double hung, picture, casement and is it
welded or a mechanically fastened window. IF it is a welded double hung I
would just ask the original installer to oreder you a new sash. the price
for
that should be about 50-100 depending on size and you can put it in your
self.

"Stanky" wrote in message
. ..
Good morning,

Last week I think some of the neighborhood kids went wild with their
pellet guns.

The result was ....I now have a broken second story window. No one fessed
up and insurance is saying it's my baby with $500 deductible.

How do you remove the vinyl trim from the inside without damage? I assume
this trim snaps in somehow and can be removed. I poked around with a screw
driver but decided I should ask a few questions before I screw it up.

I would like to do this myself...... repair guy is talking $ 300 to 400 to
replace the entire window. He says the double pane can't be removed must
replace the whole thing (remove, replace, drywall & repaint).

I think this is bull........worse it took 4 phone calls to get the guy to
look at it and another 4 so far to get a response (he said he wanted to
talk to the original installer). We phoned the original installer and they
gave us this guy to do the repair. All of this smells seriously wrong
(rip off in the making)

Any tips and information would be greatly appreciated given I'd like to
minimize my out of pocket costs.

Please reply to the group and Thank you in advance.




In most vinyl windows glass is not replaceable. You must order the entire
sash, which is easy to replace. Problem is only a sash from that
manufacturer will fit. Since most of these units are custom sizes you also
need to know the window size. If you know the original installer it would be
a lot easier to have him order you a new sash.

responding to
http://www.homeownershub.com/mainten...ow-575347-.htm
Olcooter wrote:
Hi. I also have a double-hung double-pane vinyl window with the interior
pane broken. Andersen Craftsman, I believe. Assuming that eventually I'm
going to have to bite the bullet and replace the whole dang sash ($90 + 3
weeks), I don't see any harm in first trying to replace just the broken
pane by myself. I mean, I can't break the window any more than it is
already right?

I was just wondering if anyone had any insight on doing this. I've gotten
the vinyl exterior trim off with some difficulty, so now the Insulated
Glass Unit is exposed. This consists of the two panes and the sealed
space between them. Now I'm struggling with how to pull it out of the
sash. It's either epoxied into the sash, or just wedged really tight.
Also considering trying to pull just the exterior pane off the IGU. But,
it's caulked on to the IGU frame pretty well.

My vision is that I'd be able to pull the IGU out with the square portion
intact (and perhaps the exterior pane unbroken), replace the interior
pane, then reassemble. Any advice?

On Jul 4, 11:54*am, Olcooter
wrote:
responding tohttp://www.homeownershub.com/maintenance/How-to-you-replace-broken-gl...Olcooter wrote:

Hi. *I also have a double-hung double-pane vinyl window with the interior
pane broken. *Andersen Craftsman, I believe. *Assuming that eventually I'm
going to have to bite the bullet and replace the whole dang sash ($90 + 3
weeks), I don't see any harm in first trying to replace just the broken
pane by myself. *I mean, I can't break the window any more than it is
already right?

I was just wondering if anyone had any insight on doing this. *I've gotten
the vinyl exterior trim off with some difficulty, so now the Insulated
Glass Unit is exposed. *This consists of the two panes and the sealed
space between them. *Now I'm struggling with how to pull it out of the
sash. *It's either epoxied into the sash, or just wedged really tight.
Also considering trying to pull just the exterior pane off the IGU. *But,
it's caulked on to the IGU frame pretty well.

My vision is that I'd be able to pull the IGU out with the square portion
intact (and perhaps the exterior pane unbroken), replace the interior
pane, then reassemble. *Any advice?

locally in pittsburgh pittsburgh window and door are great. take in
window unit by 8am pick it up after 3pm. pretty cheap too.

normally double hung windows are removed by tilting the moving part a
lot and pins then clear the assemblies that hold them.

sliders just lift out with care.

sealed units must be replaced by a new sealed unit.

pittsburgh window and door are experts at getting the sash off the
glass. normally sash is screwed together but the screws can get welded
in place. however they get it apart is beyond me bu they do it
constantly.

I suggest you call smoe local glass companies to find one that does
this in your area.

Window glass breaks and so windows are designed to be disassembled

On Mon, 04 Jul 2011 15:54:12 +0000, Olcooter
wrote:

responding to
http://www.homeownershub.com/mainten...ow-575347-.htm
Olcooter wrote:
Hi. I also have a double-hung double-pane vinyl window with the interior
pane broken. Andersen Craftsman, I believe. Assuming that eventually I'm
going to have to bite the bullet and replace the whole dang sash ($90 + 3
weeks), I don't see any harm in first trying to replace just the broken
pane by myself. I mean, I can't break the window any more than it is
already right?

I was just wondering if anyone had any insight on doing this. I've gotten
the vinyl exterior trim off with some difficulty, so now the Insulated
Glass Unit is exposed. This consists of the two panes and the sealed
space between them. Now I'm struggling with how to pull it out of the
sash. It's either epoxied into the sash, or just wedged really tight.
Also considering trying to pull just the exterior pane off the IGU. But,
it's caulked on to the IGU frame pretty well.

My vision is that I'd be able to pull the IGU out with the square portion
intact (and perhaps the exterior pane unbroken), replace the interior
pane, then reassemble. Any advice?
The SU should come out relatively easily -since you have the retainer
strip removed.

I'd get a replacement SU, as replacing one pane on the SU is difficult
and not terribly effective (you usually end up with
moisture/condensation problems).

Olcooter wrote the following:
responding to
http://www.homeownershub.com/mainten...ow-575347-.htm
Olcooter wrote:
Hi. I also have a double-hung double-pane vinyl window with the interior
pane broken. Andersen Craftsman, I believe. Assuming that eventually I'm
going to have to bite the bullet and replace the whole dang sash ($90 + 3
weeks), I don't see any harm in first trying to replace just the broken
pane by myself. I mean, I can't break the window any more than it is
already right?

Original message date December 12, 2004


--

Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
To email, remove the double zeroes after @

bob haller wrote in
:

On Jul 4, 11:54*am, Olcooter
wrote:
responding
tohttp://www.homeownershub.com/maintenance/How-to-you-replace-
broken-gl...Olcooter wrote:

Hi. *I also have a double-hung double-pane vinyl window with the
interi
or
pane broken. *Andersen Craftsman, I believe. *Assuming that eventuall
y I'm
going to have to bite the bullet and replace the whole dang sash ($90
+ 3 weeks), I don't see any harm in first trying to replace just the
broken pane by myself. *I mean, I can't break the window any more
than it is already right?

I was just wondering if anyone had any insight on doing this. *I've
got
ten
the vinyl exterior trim off with some difficulty, so now the
Insulated Glass Unit is exposed. *This consists of the two panes and
the sealed space between them. *Now I'm struggling with how to pull
it out of the sash. *It's either epoxied into the sash, or just
wedged really tight. Also considering trying to pull just the
exterior pane off the IGU. *Bu
t,
it's caulked on to the IGU frame pretty well.

My vision is that I'd be able to pull the IGU out with the square
portion intact (and perhaps the exterior pane unbroken), replace the
interior pane, then reassemble. *Any advice?

locally in pittsburgh pittsburgh window and door are great. take in
window unit by 8am pick it up after 3pm. pretty cheap too.

Was in Pittsburgh first time last year. Some building they got there. I
assume that's not the walk in service building.


normally double hung windows are removed by tilting the moving part a
lot and pins then clear the assemblies that hold them.

sliders just lift out with care.

sealed units must be replaced by a new sealed unit.

pittsburgh window and door are experts at getting the sash off the
glass. normally sash is screwed together but the screws can get welded
in place. however they get it apart is beyond me bu they do it
constantly.

I suggest you call smoe local glass companies to find one that does
this in your area.

Window glass breaks and so windows are designed to be disassembled

On Jul 20, 3:15*am, wrote:
On Mon, 04 Jul 2011 15:54:12 +0000, Olcooter





wrote:
responding to
http://www.homeownershub.com/mainten...lace-broken-gl...
Olcooter wrote:
Hi. *I also have a double-hung double-pane vinyl window with the interior
pane broken. *Andersen Craftsman, I believe. *Assuming that eventually I'm
going to have to bite the bullet and replace the whole dang sash ($90 + 3
weeks), I don't see any harm in first trying to replace just the broken
pane by myself. *I mean, I can't break the window any more than it is
already right?

I was just wondering if anyone had any insight on doing this. *I've gotten
the vinyl exterior trim off with some difficulty, so now the Insulated
Glass Unit is exposed. *This consists of the two panes and the sealed
space between them. *Now I'm struggling with how to pull it out of the
sash. *It's either epoxied into the sash, or just wedged really tight.
Also considering trying to pull just the exterior pane off the IGU. *But,
it's caulked on to the IGU frame pretty well.

My vision is that I'd be able to pull the IGU out with the square portion
intact (and perhaps the exterior pane unbroken), replace the interior
pane, then reassemble. *Any advice?

More plastic garbage......
You couldn't give me a plastic window !!!!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

they are actually very nice and plastic is a good insulator. my vinyl
windows are over 15 years old and still in good shape. plus they were
affordable

writes:

On Mon, 04 Jul 2011 15:54:12 +0000, Olcooter
wrote:

responding to
http://www.homeownershub.com/mainten...ow-575347-.htm
Olcooter wrote:
Hi. I also have a double-hung double-pane vinyl window with the interior
pane broken. Andersen Craftsman, I believe. Assuming that eventually I'm
going to have to bite the bullet and replace the whole dang sash ($90 + 3
weeks), I don't see any harm in first trying to replace just the broken
pane by myself. I mean, I can't break the window any more than it is
already right?

I was just wondering if anyone had any insight on doing this. I've gotten
the vinyl exterior trim off with some difficulty, so now the Insulated
Glass Unit is exposed. This consists of the two panes and the sealed
space between them. Now I'm struggling with how to pull it out of the
sash. It's either epoxied into the sash, or just wedged really tight.
Also considering trying to pull just the exterior pane off the IGU. But,
it's caulked on to the IGU frame pretty well.

My vision is that I'd be able to pull the IGU out with the square portion
intact (and perhaps the exterior pane unbroken), replace the interior
pane, then reassemble. Any advice?

More plastic garbage......
You couldn't give me a plastic window !!!!

I love my plastic windows.

To the OP, contact the manufacturer.
I had some windows crack in a vinyl garden window.
Since they just cracked on their own, replacement panes
were free. I installed them myself too. Not that hard.

--
Dan Espen

On 7/20/2011 6:30 AM, bob haller wrote:
On Jul 20, 3:15 am, wrote:
On Mon, 04 Jul 2011 15:54:12 +0000, Olcooter





wrote:
responding to
http://www.homeownershub.com/mainten...lace-broken-gl...
Olcooter wrote:
Hi. I also have a double-hung double-pane vinyl window with the interior
pane broken. Andersen Craftsman, I believe. Assuming that eventually I'm
going to have to bite the bullet and replace the whole dang sash ($90 + 3
weeks), I don't see any harm in first trying to replace just the broken
pane by myself. I mean, I can't break the window any more than it is
already right?

I was just wondering if anyone had any insight on doing this. I've gotten
the vinyl exterior trim off with some difficulty, so now the Insulated
Glass Unit is exposed. This consists of the two panes and the sealed
space between them. Now I'm struggling with how to pull it out of the
sash. It's either epoxied into the sash, or just wedged really tight.
Also considering trying to pull just the exterior pane off the IGU. But,
it's caulked on to the IGU frame pretty well.

My vision is that I'd be able to pull the IGU out with the square portion
intact (and perhaps the exterior pane unbroken), replace the interior
pane, then reassemble. Any advice?

More plastic garbage......
You couldn't give me a plastic window !!!!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

they are actually very nice and plastic is a good insulator. my vinyl
windows are over 15 years old and still in good shape. plus they were
affordable

Talk to me in another 35 years or so, and tell me how they are doing.
Absent abuse, a residential window should last at least half a century,
IMHO, and I have seen well maintained ones that made century mark or
longer. Only place I would even consider vinyl is down south, like where
my other house is, where the climate rots concrete. Ordinary wood
windows do not do well there. I could see UV-resistant vinyl cladding on
the weather side over a good wood frame, but vinyl is not a structural
material, no matter how many box sections and ribs they figure out how
to add to the extrusion.

--
aem sends...

aemeijers writes:

On 7/20/2011 6:30 AM, bob haller wrote:
On Jul 20, 3:15 am, wrote:
On Mon, 04 Jul 2011 15:54:12 +0000, Olcooter





wrote:
responding to
http://www.homeownershub.com/mainten...lace-broken-gl...
Olcooter wrote:
Hi. I also have a double-hung double-pane vinyl window with the interior
pane broken. Andersen Craftsman, I believe. Assuming that eventually I'm
going to have to bite the bullet and replace the whole dang sash ($90 + 3
weeks), I don't see any harm in first trying to replace just the broken
pane by myself. I mean, I can't break the window any more than it is
already right?

I was just wondering if anyone had any insight on doing this. I've gotten
the vinyl exterior trim off with some difficulty, so now the Insulated
Glass Unit is exposed. This consists of the two panes and the sealed
space between them. Now I'm struggling with how to pull it out of the
sash. It's either epoxied into the sash, or just wedged really tight.
Also considering trying to pull just the exterior pane off the IGU. But,
it's caulked on to the IGU frame pretty well.

My vision is that I'd be able to pull the IGU out with the square portion
intact (and perhaps the exterior pane unbroken), replace the interior
pane, then reassemble. Any advice?

More plastic garbage......
You couldn't give me a plastic window !!!!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

they are actually very nice and plastic is a good insulator. my vinyl
windows are over 15 years old and still in good shape. plus they were
affordable

Talk to me in another 35 years or so, and tell me how they are
doing. Absent abuse, a residential window should last at least half a
century, IMHO, and I have seen well maintained ones that made century
mark or longer. Only place I would even consider vinyl is down south,
like where my other house is, where the climate rots
concrete. Ordinary wood windows do not do well there. I could see
UV-resistant vinyl cladding on the weather side over a good wood
frame, but vinyl is not a structural material, no matter how many box
sections and ribs they figure out how to add to the extrusion.

The wooden windows on the house I'm in were about 50 years old when they
needed replacing.

The vinyl replacements are easy to clean, look great, don't need
painting, and actually keep the cold out.

I'd settle for 35 years but I'm guessing much longer.


--
Dan Espen

replying to Stanky, doug wrote:
no_email wrote:

Good morning,
Last week I think some of the neighborhood kids went wild with their
pellet
guns.
The result was ....I now have a broken second story window. No one fessed
up
and insurance is saying it's my baby with $500 deductible.
How do you remove the vinyl trim from the inside without damage? I assume
this trim snaps in somehow and can be removed. I poked around with a screw
driver but decided I should ask a few questions before I screw it up.
I would like to do this myself...... repair guy is talking $ 300 to 400 to
replace the entire window. He says the double pane can't be removed must
replace the whole thing (remove, replace, drywall & repaint).
I think this is bull........worse it took 4 phone calls to get the guy to
look at it and another 4 so far to get a response (he said he wanted to
talk
to the original installer). We phoned the original installer and they gave
us this guy to do the repair. All of this smells seriously wrong (rip off
in the making)
Any tips and information would be greatly appreciated given I'd like to
minimize my out of pocket costs.
Please reply to the group and Thank you in advance.


There is a video on you tube .for repairs to vinyl windows.i am currently
doing just this repair myself..is not to difficult to do .you do you
nessesary have to stay with low e glass.

--

On Wednesday, September 9, 2015 at 12:44:05 PM UTC-5, doug wrote:
replying to Stanky, doug wrote:
no_email wrote:

Good morning,
Last week I think some of the neighborhood kids went wild with their
pellet
guns.
The result was ....I now have a broken second story window. No one fessed
up
and insurance is saying it's my baby with $500 deductible.
How do you remove the vinyl trim from the inside without damage? I assume
this trim snaps in somehow and can be removed. I poked around with a screw
driver but decided I should ask a few questions before I screw it up.
I would like to do this myself...... repair guy is talking $ 300 to 400 to
replace the entire window. He says the double pane can't be removed must
replace the whole thing (remove, replace, drywall & repaint).
I think this is bull........worse it took 4 phone calls to get the guy to
look at it and another 4 so far to get a response (he said he wanted to
talk
to the original installer). We phoned the original installer and they gave
us this guy to do the repair. All of this smells seriously wrong (rip off
in the making)
Any tips and information would be greatly appreciated given I'd like to
minimize my out of pocket costs.
Please reply to the group and Thank you in advance.


There is a video on you tube .for repairs to vinyl windows.i am currently
doing just this repair myself..is not to difficult to do .you do you
nessesary have to stay with low e glass.

--

He's actually watched all the videos over the past 11 years since he made the original post. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Window Monster