On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 14:10:56 -0600, (m Ransley)
wrote:

Co is supposed to be in the flue not the house, blower should have been
cleaned and oiled if needed. run on will not hurt anything. Call him
back and dont pay to clean the blower


Did I miss something? Where is there any indication, in this or the
other thread, that CO is entering the house?

What I am hearing is that the blower is running twice. Most likely it
just needs a minor adjustment of the fan switch. Certainly not
anything to get excited about.

Gary R. Lloyd CMS
HVACR Troubleshooting Books/Software
http://www.techmethod.com

"Gary R. Lloyd" wrote in message
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On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 14:10:56 -0600, (m Ransley)
wrote:

Co is supposed to be in the flue not the house, blower should have been
cleaned and oiled if needed. run on will not hurt anything. Call him
back and dont pay to clean the blower


Did I miss something? Where is there any indication, in this or the
other thread, that CO is entering the house?

What I am hearing is that the blower is running twice. Most likely it
just needs a minor adjustment of the fan switch. Certainly not
anything to get excited about.

Gary R. Lloyd CMS
HVACR Troubleshooting Books/Software
http://www.techmethod.com



Nah....at no point was that mentioned...I mentioned that a CO test needed to
be done..thats all.
Besides, the OP stated that its a Chrysler unit...it REALLY needs a CO test
done.

OP complained he did not test Co in the FLUE.. OK so who does ???
-- nobody...

Answer no one, you test Co in the Room- home.

6th post up ,, NVM says "he did not check Co in Flue"..........

"m Ransley" wrote in message
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6th post up ,, NVM says "he did not check Co in Flue"..........


ok...missed that one..you DO check, particularly on the Airtemp hes got, for
flue SPILLAGE

On 11/21/2004 9:20 PM US(ET), m Ransley took fingers to keys, and typed
the following:

OP complained he did not test Co in the FLUE.. OK so who does ???
-- nobody...

Answer no one, you test Co in the Room- home.

The reason for testing CO in the flue is not to test how much CO is
escaping into the house, but for testing the combustion of the fuel in
the burner. Better combustion (fuel savings), less CO.

On 11/22/2004 6:21 AM US(ET), NWM took fingers to keys, and typed the
following:

On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 03:08:13 -0500, willshak
wrote:



On 11/21/2004 9:20 PM US(ET), m Ransley took fingers to keys, and typed
the following:



OP complained he did not test Co in the FLUE.. OK so who does ???
-- nobody...

Answer no one, you test Co in the Room- home.



The reason for testing CO in the flue is not to test how much CO is
escaping into the house, but for testing the combustion of the fuel in
the burner. Better combustion (fuel savings), less CO.



SI there a way to test it myself. CO in the flue? SOmething I can get
at Home Depot? I don't imnagine those CO monitors one places in rooms
can do this.

Thanks


Here is one: http://www.afcintl.com/monoxor.htm
I suppose you can buy one wherever the service people buy them (or maybe
online). I don't know about HD, because I never needed to look for one.
It's called a gas analyzer.
When you find out the price ($$$), you probably will decide you don't
need one.

On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 14:10:56 -0600, (m Ransley)
wrote:

Co is supposed to be in the flue not the house, blower should have been
cleaned and oiled if needed. run on will not hurt anything. Call him
back and dont pay to clean the blower


Thanks for all the responses. Now the big giant thing with all those
shileded wires under the burners next to the filter is the blower? Or
just the blower motor? Ok, where exactly is the blower? If it is not
in that area on the bottom of the furnace next to the filter, he may
have already cleaned it. He didn't do anything in the bottom area
except remove the really dirty and old filter.


Now to check the chimney for blockage,, will he have to get into the
attic, or just climb the roof ?

On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 04:16:20 -0500, NWM
wrote:

On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 14:10:56 -0600, (m Ransley)
wrote:

Co is supposed to be in the flue not the house, blower should have been
cleaned and oiled if needed. run on will not hurt anything. Call him
back and dont pay to clean the blower


Thanks for all the responses. Now the big giant thing with all those
shileded wires under the burners next to the filter is the blower? Or
just the blower motor? Ok, where exactly is the blower? If it is not
in that area on the bottom of the furnace next to the filter, he may
have already cleaned it. He didn't do anything in the bottom area
except remove the really dirty and old filter.


Now to check the chimney for blockage,, will he have to get into the
attic, or just climb the roof ?

You seem to expect an awful lot. If you want the entire system to be
restored to like new condition, as opposed to getting it running
safely and reasonably well (given its age), then you should expect to
pay for many more hours of labor.

Its easy for us to sit here and think up more things the tech could
have done, but each of these adds to the costs.

At this point, it would be reasonable to start planning for a new
system. Nothing lasts forever, and the energy savings alone may
justify installing a new higher efficiency system. This is something
you need to discuss with a tech who isn't a crook, and I think you
have found him.

Gary R. Lloyd CMS
HVACR Troubleshooting Books/Software
http://www.techmethod.com

On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 03:08:13 -0500, willshak
wrote:

On 11/21/2004 9:20 PM US(ET), m Ransley took fingers to keys, and typed
the following:

OP complained he did not test Co in the FLUE.. OK so who does ???
-- nobody...

Answer no one, you test Co in the Room- home.

The reason for testing CO in the flue is not to test how much CO is
escaping into the house, but for testing the combustion of the fuel in
the burner. Better combustion (fuel savings), less CO.

SI there a way to test it myself. CO in the flue? SOmething I can get
at Home Depot? I don't imnagine those CO monitors one places in rooms
can do this.

Thanks

You seem to expect an awful lot. If you want the entire system to be
restored to like new condition, as opposed to getting it running
safely and reasonably well (given its age), then you should expect to
pay for many more hours of labor.




I only expected the blower to work. I was very satified with the work
and had a question about the sequence/cycle. Now based on a response
from another thread, I was under the impression that I was in danger.
As you said, I want it to run safely and reasonably well. If the
blower second run while the burner is out is not dangerous, I'll leave
it alone.

On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 13:19:36 -0500, NWM
wrote:


You seem to expect an awful lot. If you want the entire system to be
restored to like new condition, as opposed to getting it running
safely and reasonably well (given its age), then you should expect to
pay for many more hours of labor.




I only expected the blower to work. I was very satified with the work
and had a question about the sequence/cycle. Now based on a response
from another thread, I was under the impression that I was in danger.
As you said, I want it to run safely and reasonably well. If the
blower second run while the burner is out is not dangerous, I'll leave
it alone.

Its not dangerous, but it will wear out the motor sooner.

Gary R. Lloyd CMS
HVACR Troubleshooting Books/Software
http://www.techmethod.com

On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 10:48:33 GMT, (Gary R. Lloyd)
wrote:

On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 13:19:36 -0500, NWM
wrote:


You seem to expect an awful lot. If you want the entire system to be
restored to like new condition, as opposed to getting it running
safely and reasonably well (given its age), then you should expect to
pay for many more hours of labor.




I only expected the blower to work. I was very satified with the work
and had a question about the sequence/cycle. Now based on a response
from another thread, I was under the impression that I was in danger.
As you said, I want it to run safely and reasonably well. If the
blower second run while the burner is out is not dangerous, I'll leave
it alone.

Its not dangerous, but it will wear out the motor sooner.

Gary R. Lloyd CMS
HVACR Troubleshooting Books/Software
http://www.techmethod.com


Define sooner. I think the motor has been there for 30+ years LOL.