Hello group,
Building a new house and several things had to be redone. The most
important was the vent hood over the cooktop which is a brand new Dacor.
The people who were working on the vent scratched the front edge of the
Dacor. They are very fine scratches, much like the scratches that make up
the pattern in the stainless. It appears to me that if one was to use a
light abrasive you could correct the scratches back to original. The
builder said "Barkeepers Friend" should fix it right up. Again these are not
gouges, but fine rubbing scratches so it looks like an easy fix but wanted
to check. Thanks! John

Sure the builder said that. It does not fix the scratches, it will hid
them, sort of, but I'll bet you will still be able to see them even when
visitors can't.

There are only two fixes:

1. New hood.

2. Re-polish the hood. You may be able to re-polish just the one
surface. I'll bet it will be easier and cheaper to replace it. Trying to
get the same quality polish as the original is going to be very difficult.

--
Joseph E. Meehan

26 + 6 = 1 It's Irish Math


"John" wrote in message
...
Hello group,
Building a new house and several things had to be redone. The most
important was the vent hood over the cooktop which is a brand new Dacor.
The people who were working on the vent scratched the front edge of the
Dacor. They are very fine scratches, much like the scratches that make
up the pattern in the stainless. It appears to me that if one was to use
a light abrasive you could correct the scratches back to original. The
builder said "Barkeepers Friend" should fix it right up. Again these are
not gouges, but fine rubbing scratches so it looks like an easy fix but
wanted to check. Thanks! John

most finishes are applied at the mill literally with sandpaper.
the trick would be to find which grade of paper matches the existing
pattern (probably 600 grit wet r dry) and figuring out how to keep the
motion of the paper
nice and straight. if the grit seems to be the same, but it still doesn't
look right,
you may need to use the paper with lubricants like water or light oil, etc.
if there's somewhere on the unit that isn't too visible, i would do some
testing there first,
in case your first attempts make spots worse than the original problem.
if the existing pattern is not straightline, all bets are off
bill

"John" wrote in message
...
Hello group,
Building a new house and several things had to be redone. The most
important was the vent hood over the cooktop which is a brand new Dacor.
The people who were working on the vent scratched the front edge of the
Dacor. They are very fine scratches, much like the scratches that make
up the pattern in the stainless. It appears to me that if one was to use
a light abrasive you could correct the scratches back to original. The
builder said "Barkeepers Friend" should fix it right up. Again these are
not gouges, but fine rubbing scratches so it looks like an easy fix but
wanted to check. Thanks! John

"bill a" wrote in message
om...
most finishes are applied at the mill literally with sandpaper.
the trick would be to find which grade of paper matches the existing
pattern (probably 600 grit wet r dry) and figuring out how to keep the
motion of the paper
nice and straight. if the grit seems to be the same, but it still doesn't
look right,
you may need to use the paper with lubricants like water or light oil,
etc.
if there's somewhere on the unit that isn't too visible, i would do some
testing there first,
in case your first attempts make spots worse than the original problem.
if the existing pattern is not straightline, all bets are off
bill

"John" wrote in message
...
Hello group,
Building a new house and several things had to be redone. The most
important was the vent hood over the cooktop which is a brand new Dacor.
The people who were working on the vent scratched the front edge of the
Dacor. They are very fine scratches, much like the scratches that make
up the pattern in the stainless. It appears to me that if one was to use
a light abrasive you could correct the scratches back to original. The
builder said "Barkeepers Friend" should fix it right up. Again these are
not gouges, but fine rubbing scratches so it looks like an easy fix but
wanted to check. Thanks! John


Thanks so much..It looks like the factory finish is "sandpapered" its not
that high gloss shine like the put on some stuff. It is the "industrial
looking" fishish which looks as if it's put on by finely sanding. These are
tiny, and if I were not so picky I would probably not bother with it but
would like to make it like it was..Luckily they did not gouge it or
anything. This looks as if they drug something across the front edge.
Might try the really fine sand paper on the back edge and see how it behaves
with the pattern. Thanks so much!
John

Well if the builder said barkeepers friend why not let him do it. Id
say depending on sctatch size they must be sanded out with finer and
finer grit. Satin, brushed stainless will be the easiest to fix. But I
cant see it from here

The builder said "Barkeepers Friend" should fix it right up

Tell him to do it then. He put the scratches in he should take care of them. If
that doesn't suit him, ask for a parts + labor deduction from your final bill.
Good luck.

Joe

go to your auto parts store and get some "mothers" brand wheel polish , this
stuff works miracles. it's in little white can.

On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 14:16:38 -0600, "John"
wrote:

Hello group,
Building a new house and several things had to be redone. The most
important was the vent hood over the cooktop which is a brand new Dacor.
The people who were working on the vent scratched the front edge of the
Dacor. They are very fine scratches, much like the scratches that make up
the pattern in the stainless. It appears to me that if one was to use a
light abrasive you could correct the scratches back to original. The
builder said "Barkeepers Friend" should fix it right up.

So, when is your builder coming out to fix it right up? Seems like
it's the contractor's responsibility to correct or replace what his
people screw up.

Again these are not
gouges, but fine rubbing scratches so it looks like an easy fix but wanted
to check. Thanks! John

I've been using "Friend" for a short time on our stainless kitchen
sink. It must contain some sort of fine abrasive because it removes
(with some effort) hard water residue. And it seems to leave some
sort of wax on the surface which creates a temporary shine and helps
prevent further residue--for a short while.

And if that's the "most important" fault you've got, count yourself as
very fortunate!

--John W. Wells

Stainless is supposed to scratch. Leave it alone. In 10 years that will just be
the first scratch ... if you can still see it.
Bartenders Friend is a soft buffing compound that tends to blend the scratches
and give the piece character

Greg wrote:

Stainless is supposed to scratch. Leave it alone.

THANK YOU!!! we have a bingo!

In 10 years
that will just be the first scratch ... if you can still see it.
Bartenders Friend is a soft buffing compound that tends to blend
the scratches and give the piece character

All true.

Good lowered, people. It's a kitchen, not a museum. A scratched
up Stainless surface is a badge of honor for a production kitchen,
the stuff takes it *all*, year after year without rusting or any
other kind of serious decay.

--
The real Tom Pendergast [ So if you meet me, have some courtesy,
aka I-zheet M'drurz [ have some sympathy, and some taste.
Accept no substitutes! [ Use all your well-learned politesse,
$1 to Mick for the .sig ---[ or I'll lay your soul to waste.

John wrote:
"bill a" wrote in message
om...
most finishes are applied at the mill literally with sandpaper.
the trick would be to find which grade of paper matches the
existing pattern (probably 600 grit wet r dry) and figuring out
how to keep the motion of the paper
nice and straight. if the grit seems to be the same, but it still
doesn't look right,
you may need to use the paper with lubricants like water or light
oil, etc.
if there's somewhere on the unit that isn't too visible, i would
do some testing there first,
in case your first attempts make spots worse than the original
problem. if the existing pattern is not straightline, all bets are
off bill
=20
"John" wrote in message
...
Hello group,
Building a new house and several things had to be redone. The
most important was the vent hood over the cooktop which is a
brand new Dacor. The people who were working on the vent
scratched the front edge of the Dacor. They are very fine
scratches, much like the scratches that make up the pattern in
the stainless. It appears to me that if one was to use a light
abrasive you could correct the scratches back to original. The
builder said "Barkeepers Friend" should fix it right up. Again
these are not gouges, but fine rubbing scratches so it looks like
an easy fix but wanted to check. Thanks! John=20
=20
=20
Thanks so much..It looks like the factory finish is "sandpapered"
its not that high gloss shine like the put on some stuff. It is
the "industrial looking" fishish which looks as if it's put on by
finely sanding. These are tiny, and if I were not so picky I would
probably not bother with it but would like to make it like it
was..Luckily they did not gouge it or anything. This looks as if
they drug something across the front edge. Might try the really
fine sand paper on the back edge and see how it behaves with the
pattern. Thanks so much! John

Try what the builder told you, should do it.

--=20
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John wrote:

"bill a" wrote in message
. com...


most finishes are applied at the mill literally with sandpaper.
the trick would be to find which grade of paper matches the existing
pattern (probably 600 grit wet r dry) and figuring out how to keep the
motion of the paper
nice and straight. if the grit seems to be the same, but it still doesn't
look right,
you may need to use the paper with lubricants like water or light oil,
etc.
if there's somewhere on the unit that isn't too visible, i would do some
testing there first,
in case your first attempts make spots worse than the original problem.
if the existing pattern is not straightline, all bets are off
bill

"John" wrote in message
...


Hello group,
Building a new house and several things had to be redone. The most
important was the vent hood over the cooktop which is a brand new Dacor.
The people who were working on the vent scratched the front edge of the
Dacor. They are very fine scratches, much like the scratches that make
up the pattern in the stainless. It appears to me that if one was to use
a light abrasive you could correct the scratches back to original. The
builder said "Barkeepers Friend" should fix it right up. Again these are
not gouges, but fine rubbing scratches so it looks like an easy fix but
wanted to check. Thanks! John




Thanks so much..It looks like the factory finish is "sandpapered" its not
that high gloss shine like the put on some stuff. It is the "industrial
looking" fishish which looks as if it's put on by finely sanding. These are
tiny, and if I were not so picky I would probably not bother with it but
would like to make it like it was..Luckily they did not gouge it or
anything. This looks as if they drug something across the front edge.
Might try the really fine sand paper on the back edge and see how it behaves
with the pattern. Thanks so much!
John

I have a stainless steel top on my range. It gets scratched pretty often
by pots and pans that are dragged over it.It looks pretty bad when the
range hood light is on. Every once in a while, I use one of those
scrubby pads (sponge on one side and a green woven scrubber pad on the
other). I just scrub the SS with the green side in the direction of the
SS grain using Bartender's Friend. It gets all but the deepest scratches
out.

willshak wrote:

I have a stainless steel top on my range. It gets scratched
pretty often by pots and pans that are dragged over it.It looks
pretty bad when the range hood light is on. Every once in a
while, I use one of those scrubby pads (sponge on one side and a
green woven scrubber pad on the other). I just scrub the SS with
the green side in the direction of the SS grain using
Bartender's Friend. It gets all but the deepest scratches out.

I moonlight at a marina/restaurant that is as busy as it gets
during all but the deepest of fall and winter. As you might
guess, just about every work surface is Stainless. Needless to
say, it's all scratched to some degree. We wipe it with wet
rags, but if something needs scrubbed/dislodged, we use a steel
scrubber. Not to be confused with a Brillo/SOS Pad which will
deteriorate as used, these don't break down, and they're not
all that abrasive. The only thing that scares me about these
cleansers is that they're basically a "rubbing compound" like
you would use to rub a scratch out of car paint, they're designed
to work by taking off some of the surface. I guess for occasional
home use that would be fine, but I wouldn't be going through a
can a month unless you're prepared to see some serious erosion
of the surface.


--
The real Tom Pendergast [ So if you meet me, have some courtesy,
aka I-zheet M'drurz [ have some sympathy, and some taste.
Accept no substitutes! [ Use all your well-learned politesse,
$1 to Mick for the .sig ---[ or I'll lay your soul to waste.

Note: This is a new home.

This is a new hood.

This is the responsibility of the builder.

The builder should be replacing the part they damaged. It should not
be the duty of the buyer to fix it.

Personally I think it was unconsciousable for the builder to tell the
owner to try some Mickey Mouse fix.

--
Joseph E. Meehan

26 + 6 = 1 It's Irish Math


"John" wrote in message
...
Hello group,
Building a new house and several things had to be redone. The most
important was the vent hood over the cooktop which is a brand new Dacor.
The people who were working on the vent scratched the front edge of the
Dacor. ...

"Joseph Meehan" wrote in message
...
Note: This is a new home.

This is a new hood.

This is the responsibility of the builder.

The builder should be replacing the part they damaged. It should not
be the duty of the buyer to fix it.

Personally I think it was unconsciousable for the builder to tell the
owner to try some Mickey Mouse fix.

--
Joseph E. Meehan

26 + 6 = 1 It's Irish Math


"John" wrote in message
...
Hello group,
Building a new house and several things had to be redone. The most
important was the vent hood over the cooktop which is a brand new Dacor.
The people who were working on the vent scratched the front edge of the
Dacor. ...


Hello everyone and thanks for the comments..I agree, the builder should fix
it. But at this point we may end up in court over ****ty masonary work on
the outside.(rocks falling off) We have already put a hold on his 5th and
final draw till he fixes it, but as a result of that he has stopped all work
on the house. The fine scratches on my brand new $1500 Dacor cooktop seem
small in comparison. Now, if they were deep scratches I would be bitching
for replacement but they are very fine and I can probably do better than the
incompetence that has been working over there. I agree it is a kitchen but
damn..let ME put the first scratches on things! :-)
I might try the barkeepers stuff or even the fine steel pad. I am glad this
has the satin finish and not the high gloss polished look some stuff has as
that would be much more difficult.
Thanks again for everyone taking the time to offer your comments!!!
John

"John W. Wells" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 14:16:38 -0600, "John"
wrote:

Hello group,
Building a new house and several things had to be redone. The most
important was the vent hood over the cooktop which is a brand new Dacor.
The people who were working on the vent scratched the front edge of the
Dacor. They are very fine scratches, much like the scratches that make
up
the pattern in the stainless. It appears to me that if one was to use a
light abrasive you could correct the scratches back to original. The
builder said "Barkeepers Friend" should fix it right up.

So, when is your builder coming out to fix it right up? Seems like
it's the contractor's responsibility to correct or replace what his
people screw up.

Again these are not
gouges, but fine rubbing scratches so it looks like an easy fix but wanted
to check. Thanks! John

I've been using "Friend" for a short time on our stainless kitchen
sink. It must contain some sort of fine abrasive because it removes
(with some effort) hard water residue. And it seems to leave some
sort of wax on the surface which creates a temporary shine and helps
prevent further residue--for a short while.

And if that's the "most important" fault you've got, count yourself as
very fortunate!

--John W. Wells

bartenders friend is oxalic acid crystals. it acts as a buffing compound
because of the crystalline shape, but isn't really. it will dissolve in
water. the acidic water will then dissolve the calcium/mineral deposits.

On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 07:47:45 -0700, "Charles Spitzer"
wrote:

bartenders friend is oxalic acid crystals. it acts as a buffing compound
because of the crystalline shape, but isn't really. it will dissolve in
water. the acidic water will then dissolve the calcium/mineral deposits.

Aha! Thanks for the enlightenment!

--JWW

"John" wrote in
:


"Joseph Meehan" wrote in message
...
Note: This is a new home.

This is a new hood.

This is the responsibility of the builder.

The builder should be replacing the part they damaged. It should
not
be the duty of the buyer to fix it.

Personally I think it was unconsciousable for the builder to tell
the
owner to try some Mickey Mouse fix.

--
Joseph E. Meehan

26 + 6 = 1 It's Irish Math


"John" wrote in message
...
Hello group,
Building a new house and several things had to be redone. The most
important was the vent hood over the cooktop which is a brand new
Dacor. The people who were working on the vent scratched the front
edge of the Dacor. ...


Hello everyone and thanks for the comments..I agree, the builder should
fix it. But at this point we may end up in court over ****ty masonary
work on the outside.(rocks falling off) We have already put a hold on
his 5th and final draw till he fixes it, but as a result of that he has
stopped all work on the house. The fine scratches on my brand new $1500
Dacor cooktop seem small in comparison. Now, if they were deep
scratches I would be bitching for replacement but they are very fine and
I can probably do better than the incompetence that has been working
over there. I agree it is a kitchen but damn..let ME put the first
scratches on things! :-) I might try the barkeepers stuff or even the
fine steel pad. I am glad this has the satin finish and not the high
gloss polished look some stuff has as that would be much more difficult.
Thanks again for everyone taking the time to offer your comments!!!
John

In a used condo I once bought there was an older dishwasher that had a SS
handle that ran the full width of the door. The SS had a high polish
finished that had many fairly fine scratches in it, but not enough to
consider it a "patina". Figuring I had nothing to lose, I used 000 steel
wool with a bit of cooking oil, rubbing back and forth the full length of
the handle. By the time I finished I had a very even satin finish that
looked as though it was original.

--
Wayne in Phoenix

*If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it.
*A mind is a terrible thing to lose.