Snit wrote
reams of your trademark troll**** you always
end up with, all flushed where it belongs.

Snit wrote
reams of your trademark troll**** you always
end up with, all flushed where it belongs.

On Jun 8, 2021 at 5:26:03 PM MST, ""Rod Speed""
wrote:

Snit wrote
reams of your trademark troll**** you always
end up with, all flushed where it belongs.

If you really believed that you would have just given no response.

On Jun 8, 2021 at 1:34:50 PM MST, "Snit" wrote
:

On Jun 8, 2021 at 1:34:13 PM MST, ""Rod Speed"" wrote
:



Snit wrote
reams of your trademark troll**** you always
end up with, all flushed where it belongs.

I do not understand your need to get attention this way. Can you explain it?

You failed.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On Jun 8, 2021 at 1:35:36 PM MST, "Snit" wrote
:

On Jun 8, 2021 at 1:32:30 PM MST, ""Rod Speed"" wrote
:



"Snit" wrote in message
...
On Jun 8, 2021 at 12:56:44 PM MST, ""Rod Speed"" wrote
:



"Snit" wrote in message
...
On Jun 7, 2021 at 7:34:58 PM MST, ""Rod Speed"" wrote
:

Dunno, nothing useful on that with
https://www.google.com/search?q=herd...ty+in+New+York
Gotta link ?
Did more looking into this. Need 70% to get to herd immunity:
It is COVID fatigue causing compromises I think, 85 to 90 percent
is better but 70 sounds more "doable" at this point in time. Not
enough IMO.
I have the same feeling -- but no evidence to back it.

You do actually with the R0 of the new more virulent strains.


This is what I was asking for evidence of. Do you have any?

You did not. Thanks for sharing.


--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

Snit wrote
reams of your trademark troll**** you always
end up with, all flushed where it belongs.

Snit wrote
reams of your trademark troll**** you always
end up with, all flushed where it belongs.

Snit wrote
reams of your trademark troll**** you always
end up with, all flushed where it belongs.

On Jun 8, 2021 at 8:27:53 PM MST, "Snit" wrote
:

On Jun 8, 2021 at 1:35:36 PM MST, "Snit" wrote
:

On Jun 8, 2021 at 1:32:30 PM MST, ""Rod Speed"" wrote
:



"Snit" wrote in message
...
On Jun 8, 2021 at 12:56:44 PM MST, ""Rod Speed"" wrote
:



"Snit" wrote in message
...
On Jun 7, 2021 at 7:34:58 PM MST, ""Rod Speed"" wrote
:

Dunno, nothing useful on that with
https://www.google.com/search?q=herd...ty+in+New+York
Gotta link ?
Did more looking into this. Need 70% to get to herd immunity:
It is COVID fatigue causing compromises I think, 85 to 90 percent
is better but 70 sounds more "doable" at this point in time. Not
enough IMO.
I have the same feeling -- but no evidence to back it.

You do actually with the R0 of the new more virulent strains.


This is what I was asking for evidence of. Do you have any?

You did not. Thanks for sharing.

Not sure why you responded again. I get it... you want the last word even
though you have nothing of value to add.

Best wishes.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On Jun 8, 2021 at 8:26:50 PM MST, "Snit" wrote
:

On Jun 8, 2021 at 1:34:50 PM MST, "Snit" wrote
:

On Jun 8, 2021 at 1:34:13 PM MST, ""Rod Speed"" wrote
:



Snit wrote
reams of your trademark troll**** you always
end up with, all flushed where it belongs.

I do not understand your need to get attention this way. Can you explain it?

You failed.

And you did so again as you sought the last word.

Weird.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On Jun 8, 2021 at 8:08:35 PM MST, "Snit" wrote
:

On Jun 8, 2021 at 5:26:03 PM MST, ""Rod Speed""
wrote:

Snit wrote
reams of your trademark troll**** you always
end up with, all flushed where it belongs.

If you really believed that you would have just given no response.

Then you gave the same response.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

Snit wrote
reams of your trademark troll**** you always
end up with, all flushed where it belongs.

Snit wrote
reams of your trademark troll**** you always
end up with, all flushed where it belongs.

Snit wrote
reams of your trademark troll**** you always
end up with, all flushed where it belongs.

On Wed, 9 Jun 2021 14:42:14 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

FLUSH the two senile pests usual endless idiotic senile ****

Difficult -or rather impossible- to tell which of you two senile idiots is
the more idiotic one! LOL

--
Sqwertz to Rodent Speed:
"This is just a hunch, but I'm betting you're kinda an argumentative
asshole.
MID:

On Wed, 9 Jun 2021 14:41:35 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

FLUSH all of the two debile senile pests' usual endless idiotic senile
****

--
Richard addressing senile Rodent Speed:
"**** you're thick/pathetic excuse for a troll."
MID:

On Mon, 07 Jun 2021 19:05:10 +0100, Rod Speed wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote

Doesn't giving a coronavirus vaccine to everyone increase
the chances of the virus mutating to avoid the vaccine?

Nope, it's the reverse of that, the virus can only
mutate in infected people and so the fewer that
get infected, the less the chance of it mutating.

I doubt we know how the virus thinks.

So we should be using it sparingly.

Nope, we should be vaccinating as many as possible with
the best vaccines to reduce the number who get infected.

Just let some weak folk die off, the world is too full.

On Mon, 07 Jun 2021 20:22:36 +0100, Snit wrote:

On Jun 7, 2021 at 11:05:10 AM MST, ""Rod Speed"" wrote
:

Commander Kinsey wrote

Doesn't giving a coronavirus vaccine to everyone increase
the chances of the virus mutating to avoid the vaccine?

Nope, it's the reverse of that, the virus can only
mutate in infected people and so the fewer that
get infected, the less the chance of it mutating.

Exactly!

So we should be using it sparingly.

Nope, we should be vaccinating as many as possible with
the best vaccines to reduce the number who get infected.

Yup. And they are nearing what they think is herd immunity in New York.
Amazing.

Amazingly pointless.

On Mon, 07 Jun 2021 21:02:07 +0100, Snit wrote:

Rod Speed wrote:
Snit wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Commander Kinsey wrote

Doesn't giving a coronavirus vaccine to everyone increase
the chances of the virus mutating to avoid the vaccine?

Nope, it's the reverse of that, the virus can only
mutate in infected people and so the fewer that
get infected, the less the chance of it mutating.

Exactly!

So we should be using it sparingly.

Nope, we should be vaccinating as many as possible with
the best vaccines to reduce the number who get infected.

Yup. And they are nearing what they think is herd immunity in New York.
Amazing.

Dunno, nothing useful on that with
https://www.google.com/search?q=herd...ty+in+New+York
Gotta link ?



See in the news they will be lifting restrictions. The current threshold
for herd immunity is 70%. They are just about there.

Heard it from the wife of a doctor doing research in New York €” but it
might not be official.

What restrictions? I've been going about my life as normal.

On Tue, 08 Jun 2021 00:35:26 +0100, Snit wrote:

On Jun 7, 2021 at 4:24:07 PM MST, ""Rod Speed"" wrote
:

Snit wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Snit wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Commander Kinsey wrote

Doesn't giving a coronavirus vaccine to everyone increase the
chances of the virus mutating to avoid the vaccine?

Nope, it's the reverse of that, the virus can only mutate in infected
people and so the fewer that get infected, the less the chance of it
mutating.

Exactly!

So we should be using it sparingly.

Nope, we should be vaccinating as many as possible with the best
vaccines to reduce the number who get infected.

Yup. And they are nearing what they think is herd immunity in New York.
Amazing.

Dunno, nothing useful on that with
https://www.google.com/search?q=herd...ty+in+New+York
Gotta link ?

Did more looking into this.

Need 70% to get to herd immunity:

Its nothing like that simple now with the new more virulent strains.

That is what I thought, but I have found multiple sources saying 70% is what
they think would do it. In the past I had seen 80-90%.


https://www.jhsph.edu/covid-19/artic...h-covid19.html

That doesnt say that it only needs to get to 70%.

"What we know about coronavirus so far suggests that, if we were really to go
back to a pre-pandemic lifestyle, we would need at least 70% of the population
to be immune to keep the rate of infection down (€œachieve herd immunity€�)
without restrictions on activities."

Most people who are likely to get it will have already had it (and most likely not had any symptoms). Just let people get back to normal, there won't be many more cases.

On Tue, 08 Jun 2021 21:34:50 +0100, Snit wrote:

On Jun 8, 2021 at 1:34:13 PM MST, ""Rod Speed"" wrote
:



Snit wrote
reams of your trademark troll**** you always
end up with, all flushed where it belongs.

I do not understand your need to get attention this way. Can you explain it?

I think it's just him getting tired of you going on and on.

On Tue, 08 Jun 2021 22:35:54 +0100, pothead wrote:

On 2021-06-08, Rod Speed wrote:


Snit wrote
reams of your trademark troll**** you always
end up with, all flushed where it belongs.

Snit is running his "Fire Engine Troll" on you.
Here it is:

https://groups.google.com/g/comp.os....ic1PGw-5sXA/m/
eqRxD0a0AAAJ

Quote Engaged----------------

"Snit is obviously flying high on drugs again because he is in Rainman
Mode,
but here is what will happen with all of his threads.



Person: Doesn't that blade of grass over there look like it's red?
Snit: Define red.
Person: Red, you know, like a fire engine.
Snit: Fire engines where I live are yellow.
Person: Ok, red like blood.
Snit: Blood isn't really red.
Person: Sigh, ok, red like a red rose.
Snit: What kind of rose?
Person: I don't know, a ****ing red rose.
Snit: Why are you getting vulgar with me?
Person: Because you are an idiot.
Snit: You attack me because you have nothing to say.
Person: I've been trying to say something to you for two days now. You
don't listen.
Snit: Define something.
Person: Are you some kind of asshole?
Snit: Why are you attacking me.
Person: I'm tired of playing your idiotic game.
Snit: You ran away. I won.
Person: dead silence.

And this is how snit keeps his circus alive."

Quote disengaged-----------

ROTFPMSL! A very good description of Snit, or indeed any weirdo with OCD.

On Mon, 07 Jun 2021 19:08:49 +0100, Rod Speed wrote:

"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
news
On Mon, 07 Jun 2021 18:12:19 +0100,
wrote:

On Monday, June 7, 2021 at 12:20:53 PM UTC-4, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Doesn't giving a coronavirus vaccine to everyone increase the chances of
the virus mutating to avoid the vaccine? So we should be using it
sparingly.

Microorganisms don't mutate to "avoid" anything. It's an undirected
process
whereby anything that survives (whether it's antibodies produced by a
vaccine
or an antibacterial such as penicillin) is resistant. Anything that
wasn't
resistant is dead.

I've read that this virus is intelligent, like a motorist spotting a
speedtrap and driving on a different route.

Reality is nothing like that. Viruses cant do that.

So we think now. But we're always discovering new things about nature.

On Mon, 07 Jun 2021 20:48:07 +0100, FromTheRafters wrote:

Commander Kinsey formulated on Monday :
Doesn't giving a coronavirus vaccine to everyone increase the chances of the
virus mutating to avoid the vaccine? So we should be using it sparingly.

Good point actually. I questioned this earlier as I was thinking about
in the USA we have basically three vaccines. We have heard about
bacteria being resistant due to overuse of antibacterials and
antibiotics. This is a little different.

The greatest threat is in the unvaccinated population who continue to
harbor the virus, there will always be some for one reason or another.
The bigger the host population the more the viruses environment shapes
the newer generations. Resistance can build.

The other point is, vaccinated people can still host the virus and
spread it to others, they are just less likely to get the serious
disease outcome than the unvaccinated. This is no magic bullet, it is
just another common-sense weapon in the battle against the virus.

If the vaccine doesn't stop you catching it and passing it on, it's ****ing absolutely pointless! It's not going to slow down the passing of the virus whatsoever. Yet another waste of government money.

In article , says...

Just let some weak folk die off, the world is too full.



Good way to help out the social security defect. Just got rid of close
to a million that are receiving it or were about to.

On Tue, 08 Jun 2021 00:09:44 +0100, Snit wrote:

On Jun 7, 2021 at 3:08:12 PM MST, ""Rod Speed"" wrote
:



"Snit" wrote in message
...
FromTheRafters wrote:
Commander Kinsey formulated on Monday :
Doesn't giving a coronavirus vaccine to everyone increase the chances of
the
virus mutating to avoid the vaccine? So we should be using it
sparingly.

Good point actually. I questioned this earlier as I was thinking about
in the USA we have basically three vaccines. We have heard about
bacteria being resistant due to overuse of antibacterials and
antibiotics. This is a little different.

The greatest threat is in the unvaccinated population who continue to
harbor the virus, there will always be some for one reason or another.
The bigger the host population the more the viruses environment shapes
the newer generations. Resistance can build.

The other point is, vaccinated people can still host the virus and
spread it to others, they are just less likely to get the serious
disease outcome than the unvaccinated. This is no magic bullet, it is
just another common-sense weapon in the battle against the virus.

The good news is the vaccines seem to work better than
first anticipated in terms of preventing the disease at all.

Not just seems to, has been proven to do that now.

I could quibble over semantics and scientific terms

You always do.

On Mon, 07 Jun 2021 18:34:11 +0100, Richard wrote:

On 07/06/2021 18:22, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Mon, 07 Jun 2021 18:12:19 +0100,
wrote:

On Monday, June 7, 2021 at 12:20:53 PM UTC-4, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Doesn't giving a coronavirus vaccine to everyone increase the chances
of the virus mutating to avoid the vaccine? So we should be using it
sparingly.

Microorganisms don't mutate to "avoid" anything. It's an undirected
process
whereby anything that survives (whether it's antibodies produced by a
vaccine
or an antibacterial such as penicillin) is resistant. Anything that
wasn't
resistant is dead.

I've read that this virus is intelligent, like a motorist spotting a
speedtrap and driving on a different route.

Compared to you, it is intelligent.

I'm not the sheep running off to get vaccinated against something you probably won't get, probably are naturally immune to, and probably won't kill you if you do get symptoms.

On Mon, 07 Jun 2021 18:55:27 +0100, Chris Bacon wrote:

On 07/06/2021 18:34, Richard wrote:
On 07/06/2021 18:22, Commander Kinsey wrote:

I've read that this virus is intelligent, like a motorist spotting a
speedtrap and driving on a different route.

Compared to you, it is intelligent.

Does this person ever post anything DIY related, or am I safe to plonk
the "rissole"?

Perhaps someone will post the contents of their killfile, so I can copy
it. That would be helpful. It used to be that uk.d-i-y was not a general
chat group populated by such a proportion of wanackers (name deprecated
though).

Learn what the prefix OT means and filter that.

On Tue, 08 Jun 2021 09:04:32 +0100, Chris Bacon wrote:

On 08/06/2021 05:49, Richard wrote:
On 07/06/2021 23:03, Chris Bacon wrote:
I'd still like o see a good killfile config.

Irony - complains about non-DIY posts, has to ask other people to make
up his mind and can't do his own killfile.

Fancy re-inventing the wheel, Richard? I don't.

It's hardly rocket science.

On Tue, 08 Jun 2021 08:00:49 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:

Chris Bacon wrote:

I'd still like o see a good killfile config.

Everyone having a single killfile is like having a single vaccine, it
makes it easier for the troll/vaccine to mutate ...

That is actually true. Ask Rod Speed.

On Tue, 08 Jun 2021 11:35:04 +0100, John Rumm wrote:

On 07/06/2021 18:55, Chris Bacon wrote:
On 07/06/2021 18:34, Richard wrote:
On 07/06/2021 18:22, Commander Kinsey wrote:

I've read that this virus is intelligent, like a motorist spotting a
speedtrap and driving on a different route.

Compared to you, it is intelligent.

Does this person ever post anything DIY related,

What PHUCKER? There was a time that was his preferred method of trolling
- ask a DIY related question, wait for the answers, then spend ages
arguing with the answers! It was like trolling, but I think he missed
the art of standing back and lettings the flame wars run themselves!

No trolling, just a different opinion to the unwashed masses.

On Wed, 9 Jun 2021 13:48:37 -0400, Ralph Mowery, another brain dead,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blathered:


Just let some weak folk die off, the world is too full.


Good way to help out the social security defect. Just got rid of close
to a million that are receiving it or were about to.

The unemployable, clinically insane trolling ****** you are feeding IS one
of those defective useless social misfits who keep living off government
subsidies (and he BRAGGED about it), you troll-feeding senile asshole!

On Jun 9, 2021 at 10:42:39 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
:

On Mon, 07 Jun 2021 19:05:10 +0100, Rod Speed
wrote:

Commander Kinsey wrote

Doesn't giving a coronavirus vaccine to everyone increase
the chances of the virus mutating to avoid the vaccine?

Nope, it's the reverse of that, the virus can only
mutate in infected people and so the fewer that
get infected, the less the chance of it mutating.

I doubt we know how the virus thinks.

Viruses do not think.

So we should be using it sparingly.

Nope, we should be vaccinating as many as possible with
the best vaccines to reduce the number who get infected.

Just let some weak folk die off, the world is too full.

Are you volunteering?

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On Jun 9, 2021 at 10:48:52 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
:

On Tue, 08 Jun 2021 00:09:44 +0100, Snit wrote:

On Jun 7, 2021 at 3:08:12 PM MST, ""Rod Speed"" wrote
:



"Snit" wrote in message
...
FromTheRafters wrote:
Commander Kinsey formulated on Monday :
Doesn't giving a coronavirus vaccine to everyone increase the chances of
the
virus mutating to avoid the vaccine? So we should be using it
sparingly.

Good point actually. I questioned this earlier as I was thinking about
in the USA we have basically three vaccines. We have heard about
bacteria being resistant due to overuse of antibacterials and
antibiotics. This is a little different.

The greatest threat is in the unvaccinated population who continue to
harbor the virus, there will always be some for one reason or another.
The bigger the host population the more the viruses environment shapes
the newer generations. Resistance can build.

The other point is, vaccinated people can still host the virus and
spread it to others, they are just less likely to get the serious
disease outcome than the unvaccinated. This is no magic bullet, it is
just another common-sense weapon in the battle against the virus.

The good news is the vaccines seem to work better than
first anticipated in terms of preventing the disease at all.

Not just seems to, has been proven to do that now.

I could quibble over semantics and scientific terms

You always do.

I did not here.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On Jun 9, 2021 at 10:48:05 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
:

On Mon, 07 Jun 2021 20:48:07 +0100, FromTheRafters
wrote:

Commander Kinsey formulated on Monday :
Doesn't giving a coronavirus vaccine to everyone increase the chances of the
virus mutating to avoid the vaccine? So we should be using it sparingly.

Good point actually. I questioned this earlier as I was thinking about
in the USA we have basically three vaccines. We have heard about
bacteria being resistant due to overuse of antibacterials and
antibiotics. This is a little different.

The greatest threat is in the unvaccinated population who continue to
harbor the virus, there will always be some for one reason or another.
The bigger the host population the more the viruses environment shapes
the newer generations. Resistance can build.

The other point is, vaccinated people can still host the virus and
spread it to others, they are just less likely to get the serious
disease outcome than the unvaccinated. This is no magic bullet, it is
just another common-sense weapon in the battle against the virus.

If the vaccine doesn't stop you catching it and passing it on, it's ****ing
absolutely pointless!

How do you figure?

It's not going to slow down the passing of the virus whatsoever.

Again, how do you figure?

Yet another waste of government money.


--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On Jun 9, 2021 at 10:46:48 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
:

On Mon, 07 Jun 2021 19:08:49 +0100, Rod Speed
wrote:

"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
news
On Mon, 07 Jun 2021 18:12:19 +0100,
wrote:

On Monday, June 7, 2021 at 12:20:53 PM UTC-4, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Doesn't giving a coronavirus vaccine to everyone increase the chances of
the virus mutating to avoid the vaccine? So we should be using it
sparingly.

Microorganisms don't mutate to "avoid" anything. It's an undirected
process
whereby anything that survives (whether it's antibodies produced by a
vaccine
or an antibacterial such as penicillin) is resistant. Anything that
wasn't
resistant is dead.

I've read that this virus is intelligent, like a motorist spotting a
speedtrap and driving on a different route.

Reality is nothing like that. Viruses cant do that.

So we think now. But we're always discovering new things about nature.

When speaking of science it is assumed it is "merely" our best understanding.
It is not like faith.

Well, there is faith in inductive reasoning, but that gets into deeper
philosophy.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On Jun 9, 2021 at 10:46:10 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
:

On Tue, 08 Jun 2021 22:35:54 +0100, pothead wrote:

On 2021-06-08, Rod Speed wrote:


Snit wrote
reams of your trademark troll**** you always
end up with, all flushed where it belongs.

Snit is running his "Fire Engine Troll" on you.
Here it is:


https://groups.google.com/g/comp.os.linux.advocacy/c/ic1PGw-5sXA/m/eqRxD0a0AAAJ

Quote Engaged----------------

"Snit is obviously flying high on drugs again because he is in Rainman
Mode,
but here is what will happen with all of his threads.



Person: Doesn't that blade of grass over there look like it's red?
Snit: Define red.
Person: Red, you know, like a fire engine.
Snit: Fire engines where I live are yellow.
Person: Ok, red like blood.
Snit: Blood isn't really red.
Person: Sigh, ok, red like a red rose.
Snit: What kind of rose?
Person: I don't know, a ****ing red rose.
Snit: Why are you getting vulgar with me?
Person: Because you are an idiot.
Snit: You attack me because you have nothing to say.
Person: I've been trying to say something to you for two days now. You
don't listen.
Snit: Define something.
Person: Are you some kind of asshole?
Snit: Why are you attacking me.
Person: I'm tired of playing your idiotic game.
Snit: You ran away. I won.
Person: dead silence.

And this is how snit keeps his circus alive."

Quote disengaged-----------

ROTFPMSL! A very good description of Snit, or indeed any weirdo with OCD.

Notice Carroll (no matter what name he uses) feels the need to make up
conversation to "show" his claims. He cannot quote me doing as he accuses.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On Jun 9, 2021 at 10:45:13 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
:

On Tue, 08 Jun 2021 21:34:50 +0100, Snit wrote:

On Jun 8, 2021 at 1:34:13 PM MST, ""Rod Speed"" wrote
:



Snit wrote
reams of your trademark troll**** you always
end up with, all flushed where it belongs.

I do not understand your need to get attention this way. Can you explain it?

I think it's just him getting tired of you going on and on.

I merely asked if he had evidence of his claims.

He did not, which is fine. We all have beliefs we cannot fully support.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On Jun 9, 2021 at 10:44:33 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
:

On Tue, 08 Jun 2021 00:35:26 +0100, Snit wrote:

On Jun 7, 2021 at 4:24:07 PM MST, ""Rod Speed"" wrote
:

Snit wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Snit wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Commander Kinsey wrote

Doesn't giving a coronavirus vaccine to everyone increase the
chances of the virus mutating to avoid the vaccine?

Nope, it's the reverse of that, the virus can only mutate in infected
people and so the fewer that get infected, the less the chance of it
mutating.

Exactly!

So we should be using it sparingly.

Nope, we should be vaccinating as many as possible with the best
vaccines to reduce the number who get infected.

Yup. And they are nearing what they think is herd immunity in New York.
Amazing.

Dunno, nothing useful on that with
https://www.google.com/search?q=3Dhe...ty+in+New+York
Gotta link ?

Did more looking into this.

Need 70% to get to herd immunity:

Its nothing like that simple now with the new more virulent strains.

That is what I thought, but I have found multiple sources saying 70% is what
they think would do it. In the past I had seen 80-90%.



https://www.jhsph.edu/covid-19/artic...h-covid19.html

That doesn=E2=80=99t say that it only needs to get to 70%.

"What we know about coronavirus so far suggests that, if we were really to
go
back to a pre-pandemic lifestyle, we would need at least 70% of the
population
to be immune to keep the rate of infection down (=E2=80=9Cachieve herd
immunity=E2=80=9D)
without restrictions on activities."

Most people who are likely to get it will have already had it (and most
likely not had any symptoms). Just let people get back to normal, there
won't be many more cases.

Without precautions there would be many more cases and many more deaths. The
vaccines are working, though.

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On Jun 9, 2021 at 10:43:22 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote
:

On Mon, 07 Jun 2021 21:02:07 +0100, Snit wrote:

Rod Speed wrote:
Snit wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Commander Kinsey wrote

Doesn't giving a coronavirus vaccine to everyone increase
the chances of the virus mutating to avoid the vaccine?

Nope, it's the reverse of that, the virus can only
mutate in infected people and so the fewer that
get infected, the less the chance of it mutating.

Exactly!

So we should be using it sparingly.

Nope, we should be vaccinating as many as possible with
the best vaccines to reduce the number who get infected.

Yup. And they are nearing what they think is herd immunity in New York.
Amazing.

Dunno, nothing useful on that with
https://www.google.com/search?q=3Dhe...ty+in+New+York
Gotta link ?



See in the news they will be lifting restrictions. The current threshold
for herd immunity is 70%. They are just about there.

Heard it from the wife of a doctor doing research in New York =E2=80=94 but
it
might not be official.

What restrictions? I've been going about my life as normal.

Restrictions intelligent and informed people take to protect themselves and
others.

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