If these were any other vaccines, they would already be off the market.

In fact, they would have been pulled a long time ago. Usually, a new drug is withdrawn after 50 deaths, which isn't typical because the FDA has a
strict approval process. The COVID-19 vaccines have been exempted from it, instead being temporarily "authorized" for emergency use.

These vaccines have coincided with 3,544 American deaths and 12,619 serious injuries as of April 23, according to the CDC's Vaccine Adverse Event
Reports System database (VAERS, republished "as is" in user-friendly format here). The flu vaccines by comparison are linked to 20€“30 death reports a
year, according to Dr. Peter McCullough, and those 20€“30 death reports come with considerably more vaccines administered.

This is precisely the kind of thing FDA approval is supposed to prevent.


https://www.americanthinker.com/arti...ath_spike.html

On 5/17/2021 9:50 AM, Oliver George wrote:
If these were any other vaccines, they would already be off the market.

In fact, they would have been pulled a long time ago.Â* Usually, a new
drug is withdrawn after 50 deaths, which isn't typical because the FDA
has a strict approval process.Â* The COVID-19 vaccines have been exempted
from it, instead being temporarily "authorized" for emergency use.

These vaccines have coincided with 3,544 American deaths and 12,619
serious injuries as of April 23, according to the CDC's Vaccine Adverse
Event Reports System database (VAERS, republished "as is" in
user-friendly format here).Â* The flu vaccines by comparison are linked
to 20€“30 death reports a year, according to Dr. Peter McCullough, and
those 20€“30 death reports come with considerably more vaccines
administered.

This is precisely the kind of thing FDA approval is supposed to prevent.


https://www.americanthinker.com/arti...ath_spike.html


Evidently you do not know how to read and interpret the numbers
reported. Look at the fine print. The deaths have not been verified
from the vaccine.

If you got vaccinated yesterday, got killed in a car accident today, it
can be reported by anyone as a possible vaccine death.

Coincided with does not mean caused by.

On Mon, 17 May 2021 10:30:27 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 5/17/2021 9:50 AM, Oliver George wrote:
If these were any other vaccines, they would already be off the market.

In fact, they would have been pulled a long time ago.Â* Usually, a new
drug is withdrawn after 50 deaths, which isn't typical because the FDA
has a strict approval process.Â* The COVID-19 vaccines have been exempted
from it, instead being temporarily "authorized" for emergency use.

These vaccines have coincided with 3,544 American deaths and 12,619
serious injuries as of April 23, according to the CDC's Vaccine Adverse
Event Reports System database (VAERS, republished "as is" in
user-friendly format here).Â* The flu vaccines by comparison are linked
to 20€“30 death reports a year, according to Dr. Peter McCullough, and
those 20€“30 death reports come with considerably more vaccines
administered.

This is precisely the kind of thing FDA approval is supposed to prevent.


https://www.americanthinker.com/arti...ath_spike.html


Evidently you do not know how to read and interpret the numbers
reported. Look at the fine print. The deaths have not been verified
from the vaccine.

If you got vaccinated yesterday, got killed in a car accident today, it
can be reported by anyone as a possible vaccine death.

Coincided with does not mean caused by.

That was the method used to count Covid deaths. If you had a sucking
chest wound from a gunshot and tested positive for Covid, it was a
Covid death.
CDC has changed that now and are looking at co morbidities and tossing
out anyone who had anything else wrong with them that could be to
blame.
The reality is nobody ever died of "Covid" if you have a sharp enough
pencil. They usually had a cardiopulmonary failure that may have been
exacerbated by Covid. If there were preexisting conditions, it was an
opinion call. The opinions were changed by political reality.
The fact remained 65% of the population was not fully vaccinated when
the policy flipped last Friday.
I posted the CDC numbers as reported by Reuters a couple days ago.

They moved the goal posts for purely political reasons.
As I have been saying all along, the democrats know that if this mask
thing is not a distant memory next year, they lose the senate and
maybe the house.

On 5/17/2021 12:04 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 May 2021 10:30:27 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 5/17/2021 9:50 AM, Oliver George wrote:
If these were any other vaccines, they would already be off the market.

In fact, they would have been pulled a long time ago.Â* Usually, a new
drug is withdrawn after 50 deaths, which isn't typical because the FDA
has a strict approval process.Â* The COVID-19 vaccines have been exempted
from it, instead being temporarily "authorized" for emergency use.

These vaccines have coincided with 3,544 American deaths and 12,619
serious injuries as of April 23, according to the CDC's Vaccine Adverse
Event Reports System database (VAERS, republished "as is" in
user-friendly format here).Â* The flu vaccines by comparison are linked
to 20€“30 death reports a year, according to Dr. Peter McCullough, and
those 20€“30 death reports come with considerably more vaccines
administered.

This is precisely the kind of thing FDA approval is supposed to prevent.


https://www.americanthinker.com/arti...ath_spike.html


Evidently you do not know how to read and interpret the numbers
reported. Look at the fine print. The deaths have not been verified
from the vaccine.

If you got vaccinated yesterday, got killed in a car accident today, it
can be reported by anyone as a possible vaccine death.

Coincided with does not mean caused by.

That was the method used to count Covid deaths. If you had a sucking
chest wound from a gunshot and tested positive for Covid, it was a
Covid death.
CDC has changed that now and are looking at co morbidities and tossing
out anyone who had anything else wrong with them that could be to
blame.
The reality is nobody ever died of "Covid" if you have a sharp enough
pencil. They usually had a cardiopulmonary failure that may have been
exacerbated by Covid. If there were preexisting conditions, it was an
opinion call. The opinions were changed by political reality.
The fact remained 65% of the population was not fully vaccinated when
the policy flipped last Friday.
I posted the CDC numbers as reported by Reuters a couple days ago.

They moved the goal posts for purely political reasons.
As I have been saying all along, the democrats know that if this mask
thing is not a distant memory next year, they lose the senate and
maybe the house.


With inflation coming one, no border control and pipeline hijacking
closing gas stations, Biden had to say something positive.

It is like Clinton bombing the aspirin factory during the Monica scandal.

wrote in message
...
On Mon, 17 May 2021 10:30:27 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 5/17/2021 9:50 AM, Oliver George wrote:
If these were any other vaccines, they would already be off the market.

In fact, they would have been pulled a long time ago. Usually, a new
drug is withdrawn after 50 deaths, which isn't typical because the FDA
has a strict approval process. The COVID-19 vaccines have been exempted
from it, instead being temporarily "authorized" for emergency use.

These vaccines have coincided with 3,544 American deaths and 12,619
serious injuries as of April 23, according to the CDC's Vaccine Adverse
Event Reports System database (VAERS, republished "as is" in
user-friendly format here). The flu vaccines by comparison are linked
to 20€“30 death reports a year, according to Dr. Peter McCullough, and
those 20€“30 death reports come with considerably more vaccines
administered.

This is precisely the kind of thing FDA approval is supposed to prevent.


https://www.americanthinker.com/arti...ath_spike.html


Evidently you do not know how to read and interpret the numbers
reported. Look at the fine print. The deaths have not been verified
from the vaccine.

If you got vaccinated yesterday, got killed in a car accident today, it
can be reported by anyone as a possible vaccine death.

Coincided with does not mean caused by.

That was the method used to count Covid deaths.
If you had a sucking chest wound from a gunshot
and tested positive for Covid, it was a Covid death.

More of your bare faced lies.

CDC has changed that now and are looking at co
morbidities and tossing out anyone who had anything
else wrong with them that could be to blame.

The reality is nobody ever died of "Covid" if you have a
sharp enough pencil. They usually had a cardiopulmonary
failure that may have been exacerbated by Covid.

Even sillier and more flagrantly dishonest than you usually
manage and thats saying something.

If there were preexisting conditions, it was an opinion call.

Even sillier and more flagrantly dishonest than you usually
manage and thats saying something.

The opinions were changed by political reality.

Even sillier and more flagrantly dishonest than you usually
manage and thats saying something.

The fact remained 65% of the population was not
fully vaccinated when the policy flipped last Friday.

No policy was flipped, that change in policy would always have happened.

I posted the CDC numbers as reported by Reuters a couple days ago.

They moved the goal posts for purely political reasons.

Even sillier and more flagrantly dishonest than you usually
manage and thats saying something.

As I have been saying all along, the democrats know
that if this mask thing is not a distant memory next
year, they lose the senate and maybe the house.

Even sillier and more flagrantly dishonest than you usually
manage and thats saying something.

On Tue, 18 May 2021 03:12:25 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

FLUSH the trolling senile asshole's latest troll**** unread

--
Bill Wright to Rodent Speed:
"That confirms my opinion that you are a despicable little ****."
MID:

writes:
On Mon, 17 May 2021 10:30:27 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

Coincided with does not mean caused by.

That was the method used to count Covid deaths. If you had a sucking
chest wound from a gunshot and tested positive for Covid, it was a
Covid death.

You are either lying intentionally or a deluded fool. I suspect the latter.

On Mon, 17 May 2021 17:19:16 GMT, (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:

writes:
On Mon, 17 May 2021 10:30:27 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

Coincided with does not mean caused by.

That was the method used to count Covid deaths. If you had a sucking
chest wound from a gunshot and tested positive for Covid, it was a
Covid death.

You are either lying intentionally or a deluded fool. I suspect the latter.

It is documented that plenty of deaths from trauma were chalked up as
Covid. The director of our biggest medical conglomerate admitted it on
TV.
The criteria was, when admitted, if a Covid test was given (and
everyone got one) that a positive result got you listed as a Covid
patient, no matter why you were there. That was done for quarantine
purposes as much as anything but when you died, Covid was listed as a
contributing cause. Since we were ignoring co morbidities at the time
(95% of "Covid deaths" had them) the number got inflated.
This week CDC reversed that policy. Now only that 6% that had Covid as
the only cause of death are called a Covid death.

Now who is lying?

writes:
On Mon, 17 May 2021 17:19:16 GMT, (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:

writes:
On Mon, 17 May 2021 10:30:27 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

Coincided with does not mean caused by.

That was the method used to count Covid deaths. If you had a sucking
chest wound from a gunshot and tested positive for Covid, it was a
Covid death.

You are either lying intentionally or a deluded fool. I suspect the latter.

It is documented that plenty of deaths from trauma were chalked up as
Covid. The director of our biggest medical conglomerate admitted it on
TV.

No such documentation exists, except in your head.

The criteria was, when admitted, if a Covid test was given (and
everyone got one) that a positive result got you listed as a Covid
patient, no matter why you were there. That was done for quarantine
purposes as much as anything but when you died, Covid was listed as a
contributing cause. Since we were ignoring co morbidities at the time
(95% of "Covid deaths" had them) the number got inflated.
This week CDC reversed that policy. Now only that 6% that had Covid as
the only cause of death are called a Covid death.

Now who is lying?

You. You don't seem to realize that asserting something doesn't make it true.

Provide a citation to verfied data that supports your assertion or shut up about it.

On 5/17/2021 1:43 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 May 2021 17:19:16 GMT, (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:

writes:
On Mon, 17 May 2021 10:30:27 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

Coincided with does not mean caused by.

That was the method used to count Covid deaths. If you had a sucking
chest wound from a gunshot and tested positive for Covid, it was a
Covid death.

You are either lying intentionally or a deluded fool. I suspect the latter.

It is documented that plenty of deaths from trauma were chalked up as
Covid. The director of our biggest medical conglomerate admitted it on
TV.
The criteria was, when admitted, if a Covid test was given (and
everyone got one) that a positive result got you listed as a Covid
patient, no matter why you were there. That was done for quarantine
purposes as much as anything but when you died, Covid was listed as a
contributing cause. Since we were ignoring co morbidities at the time
(95% of "Covid deaths" had them) the number got inflated.
This week CDC reversed that policy. Now only that 6% that had Covid as
the only cause of death are called a Covid death.

Now who is lying?



Reverse oddity is the Chinese only claiming about 5,000 covid deaths.
If that were true, maybe they were designing a virus to kill only
non-Chinese that escaped from their lab.

wrote in message
...
On Mon, 17 May 2021 17:19:16 GMT, (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:

writes:
On Mon, 17 May 2021 10:30:27 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

Coincided with does not mean caused by.

That was the method used to count Covid deaths. If you had a sucking
chest wound from a gunshot and tested positive for Covid, it was a
Covid death.

You are either lying intentionally or a deluded fool. I suspect the
latter.

It is documented that plenty of deaths
from trauma were chalked up as Covid.

Bull**** and that's not all of them anyway,
you pathetic excuse for a lying bull**** artist.

On Mon, 17 May 2021 17:19:16 GMT, (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:

writes:
On Mon, 17 May 2021 10:30:27 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

Coincided with does not mean caused by.

That was the method used to count Covid deaths. If you had a sucking
chest wound from a gunshot and tested positive for Covid, it was a
Covid death.

You are either lying intentionally or a deluded fool. I suspect the latter.
It doesn't HAVE to be "either - or" Just like a sucking chest wounf
andCovid you can have a "vacuum head" and a "Lying B@$$T@rd" occupying
the same body

On 5/17/2021 12:04 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 May 2021 10:30:27 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 5/17/2021 9:50 AM, Oliver George wrote:
If these were any other vaccines, they would already be off the market.

In fact, they would have been pulled a long time ago.Â* Usually, a new
drug is withdrawn after 50 deaths, which isn't typical because the FDA
has a strict approval process.Â* The COVID-19 vaccines have been exempted
from it, instead being temporarily "authorized" for emergency use.

These vaccines have coincided with 3,544 American deaths and 12,619
serious injuries as of April 23, according to the CDC's Vaccine Adverse
Event Reports System database (VAERS, republished "as is" in
user-friendly format here).Â* The flu vaccines by comparison are linked
to 20€“30 death reports a year, according to Dr. Peter McCullough, and
those 20€“30 death reports come with considerably more vaccines
administered.

This is precisely the kind of thing FDA approval is supposed to prevent.


https://www.americanthinker.com/arti...ath_spike.html


Evidently you do not know how to read and interpret the numbers
reported. Look at the fine print. The deaths have not been verified
from the vaccine.

If you got vaccinated yesterday, got killed in a car accident today, it
can be reported by anyone as a possible vaccine death.

Coincided with does not mean caused by.

That was the method used to count Covid deaths. If you had a sucking
chest wound from a gunshot and tested positive for Covid, it was a
Covid death.
CDC has changed that now and are looking at co morbidities and tossing
out anyone who had anything else wrong with them that could be to
blame.
The reality is nobody ever died of "Covid" if you have a sharp enough
pencil. They usually had a cardiopulmonary failure that may have been
exacerbated by Covid. If there were preexisting conditions, it was an
opinion call. The opinions were changed by political reality.
The fact remained 65% of the population was not fully vaccinated when
the policy flipped last Friday.
I posted the CDC numbers as reported by Reuters a couple days ago.

They moved the goal posts for purely political reasons.
As I have been saying all along, the democrats know that if this mask
thing is not a distant memory next year, they lose the senate and
maybe the house.


There is a specific method to report a death.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/vsrg/vsrg03-508.pdf

Take a look at page 5 about sequentially reporting causes.

Heywood writes:
On 5/17/2021 12:04 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 May 2021 10:30:27 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 5/17/2021 9:50 AM, Oliver George wrote:
If these were any other vaccines, they would already be off the market.

In fact, they would have been pulled a long time ago.Â* Usually, a new
drug is withdrawn after 50 deaths, which isn't typical because the FDA
has a strict approval process.Â* The COVID-19 vaccines have been exempted
from it, instead being temporarily "authorized" for emergency use.

These vaccines have coincided with 3,544 American deaths and 12,619
serious injuries as of April 23, according to the CDC's Vaccine Adverse
Event Reports System database (VAERS, republished "as is" in
user-friendly format here).Â* The flu vaccines by comparison are linked
to 20€“30 death reports a year, according to Dr. Peter McCullough, and
those 20€“30 death reports come with considerably more vaccines
administered.

This is precisely the kind of thing FDA approval is supposed to prevent.


https://www.americanthinker.com/arti...ath_spike.html


Evidently you do not know how to read and interpret the numbers
reported. Look at the fine print. The deaths have not been verified
from the vaccine.

If you got vaccinated yesterday, got killed in a car accident today, it
can be reported by anyone as a possible vaccine death.

Coincided with does not mean caused by.

That was the method used to count Covid deaths. If you had a sucking
chest wound from a gunshot and tested positive for Covid, it was a
Covid death.
CDC has changed that now and are looking at co morbidities and tossing
out anyone who had anything else wrong with them that could be to
blame.
The reality is nobody ever died of "Covid" if you have a sharp enough
pencil. They usually had a cardiopulmonary failure that may have been
exacerbated by Covid. If there were preexisting conditions, it was an
opinion call. The opinions were changed by political reality.
The fact remained 65% of the population was not fully vaccinated when
the policy flipped last Friday.
I posted the CDC numbers as reported by Reuters a couple days ago.

They moved the goal posts for purely political reasons.
As I have been saying all along, the democrats know that if this mask
thing is not a distant memory next year, they lose the senate and
maybe the house.


There is a specific method to report a death.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/vsrg/vsrg03-508.pdf

Take a look at page 5 about sequentially reporting causes.

Now see, you're confusing Fretwell with facts.

On Mon, 17 May 2021 22:18:43 GMT, (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:

Heywood writes:
On 5/17/2021 12:04 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 May 2021 10:30:27 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 5/17/2021 9:50 AM, Oliver George wrote:
If these were any other vaccines, they would already be off the market.

In fact, they would have been pulled a long time ago.ÂÂ* Usually, a new
drug is withdrawn after 50 deaths, which isn't typical because the FDA
has a strict approval process.ÂÂ* The COVID-19 vaccines have been exempted
from it, instead being temporarily "authorized" for emergency use.

These vaccines have coincided with 3,544 American deaths and 12,619
serious injuries as of April 23, according to the CDC's Vaccine Adverse
Event Reports System database (VAERS, republished "as is" in
user-friendly format here).ÂÂ* The flu vaccines by comparison are linked
to 20€€œ30 death reports a year, according to Dr. Peter McCullough, and
those 20€€œ30 death reports come with considerably more vaccines
administered.

This is precisely the kind of thing FDA approval is supposed to prevent.


https://www.americanthinker.com/arti...ath_spike.html


Evidently you do not know how to read and interpret the numbers
reported. Look at the fine print. The deaths have not been verified
from the vaccine.

If you got vaccinated yesterday, got killed in a car accident today, it
can be reported by anyone as a possible vaccine death.

Coincided with does not mean caused by.

That was the method used to count Covid deaths. If you had a sucking
chest wound from a gunshot and tested positive for Covid, it was a
Covid death.
CDC has changed that now and are looking at co morbidities and tossing
out anyone who had anything else wrong with them that could be to
blame.
The reality is nobody ever died of "Covid" if you have a sharp enough
pencil. They usually had a cardiopulmonary failure that may have been
exacerbated by Covid. If there were preexisting conditions, it was an
opinion call. The opinions were changed by political reality.
The fact remained 65% of the population was not fully vaccinated when
the policy flipped last Friday.
I posted the CDC numbers as reported by Reuters a couple days ago.

They moved the goal posts for purely political reasons.
As I have been saying all along, the democrats know that if this mask
thing is not a distant memory next year, they lose the senate and
maybe the house.


There is a specific method to report a death.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/vsrg/vsrg03-508.pdf

Take a look at page 5 about sequentially reporting causes.

Now see, you're confusing Fretwell with facts.

The form he linked confirmed what I said.
The examples also did not include people who tested positive and had
other totally unrelated symptoms, like that sucking chest wound. Covid
still appeared on the death certificate.

On Mon, 17 May 2021 17:18:18 -0400, Heywood wrote:

On 5/17/2021 12:04 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 May 2021 10:30:27 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 5/17/2021 9:50 AM, Oliver George wrote:
If these were any other vaccines, they would already be off the market.

In fact, they would have been pulled a long time ago.Â* Usually, a new
drug is withdrawn after 50 deaths, which isn't typical because the FDA
has a strict approval process.Â* The COVID-19 vaccines have been exempted
from it, instead being temporarily "authorized" for emergency use.

These vaccines have coincided with 3,544 American deaths and 12,619
serious injuries as of April 23, according to the CDC's Vaccine Adverse
Event Reports System database (VAERS, republished "as is" in
user-friendly format here).Â* The flu vaccines by comparison are linked
to 20€“30 death reports a year, according to Dr. Peter McCullough, and
those 20€“30 death reports come with considerably more vaccines
administered.

This is precisely the kind of thing FDA approval is supposed to prevent.


https://www.americanthinker.com/arti...ath_spike.html


Evidently you do not know how to read and interpret the numbers
reported. Look at the fine print. The deaths have not been verified
from the vaccine.

If you got vaccinated yesterday, got killed in a car accident today, it
can be reported by anyone as a possible vaccine death.

Coincided with does not mean caused by.

That was the method used to count Covid deaths. If you had a sucking
chest wound from a gunshot and tested positive for Covid, it was a
Covid death.
CDC has changed that now and are looking at co morbidities and tossing
out anyone who had anything else wrong with them that could be to
blame.
The reality is nobody ever died of "Covid" if you have a sharp enough
pencil. They usually had a cardiopulmonary failure that may have been
exacerbated by Covid. If there were preexisting conditions, it was an
opinion call. The opinions were changed by political reality.
The fact remained 65% of the population was not fully vaccinated when
the policy flipped last Friday.
I posted the CDC numbers as reported by Reuters a couple days ago.

They moved the goal posts for purely political reasons.
As I have been saying all along, the democrats know that if this mask
thing is not a distant memory next year, they lose the senate and
maybe the house.


There is a specific method to report a death.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/vsrg/vsrg03-508.pdf

Take a look at page 5 about sequentially reporting causes.

OK on page 5
"Comment: In this case, the immediate cause of death was
ARDS, so it was reported on line a. as a consequence of
pneumonia, which was reported on line b. The underlying cause of death
(UCOD) was COVID€“19 so it was reported on line c., the lowest line
used in Part I"

Covid appeared on that form and she got reported as "Dying with Covid
as an underlying cause of death" so she clicked the counter in the
stat.

Look at page 4
"A 77-year-old male with a 10-year history of hypertension and chronic
obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD) ... "
He had Covid on his form too.

They was some of those 96% of the people who got counted as a Covid
death in spite of other co morbidities.
This week CDC changed that.

On Mon, 17 May 2021 12:04:02 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 17 May 2021 10:30:27 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 5/17/2021 9:50 AM, Oliver George wrote:
If these were any other vaccines, they would already be off the market.

In fact, they would have been pulled a long time ago.* Usually, a new
drug is withdrawn after 50 deaths, which isn't typical because the FDA
has a strict approval process.* The COVID-19 vaccines have been exempted
from it, instead being temporarily "authorized" for emergency use.

These vaccines have coincided with 3,544 American deaths and 12,619
serious injuries as of April 23, according to the CDC's Vaccine Adverse
Event Reports System database (VAERS, republished "as is" in
user-friendly format here).* The flu vaccines by comparison are linked
to 20–30 death reports a year, according to Dr. Peter McCullough, and
those 20–30 death reports come with considerably more vaccines
administered.

This is precisely the kind of thing FDA approval is supposed to prevent.


https://www.americanthinker.com/arti...ath_spike.html


Evidently you do not know how to read and interpret the numbers
reported. Look at the fine print. The deaths have not been verified
from the vaccine.

If you got vaccinated yesterday, got killed in a car accident today, it
can be reported by anyone as a possible vaccine death.

Coincided with does not mean caused by.

That was the method used to count Covid deaths. If you had a sucking
chest wound from a gunshot and tested positive for Covid, it was a
Covid death.
CDC has changed that now and are looking at co morbidities and tossing
out anyone who had anything else wrong with them that could be to
blame.
The reality is nobody ever died of "Covid" if you have a sharp enough
pencil.

How many hospitals did you check with across the country before you came to
the conclusion that they were all committing fraud. None, you say? OK,
well, that explains things quite nicely.

On Mon, 17 May 2021 16:41:44 -0500, Jim Joyce
wrote:

On Mon, 17 May 2021 12:04:02 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 17 May 2021 10:30:27 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 5/17/2021 9:50 AM, Oliver George wrote:
If these were any other vaccines, they would already be off the market.

In fact, they would have been pulled a long time ago.Â* Usually, a new
drug is withdrawn after 50 deaths, which isn't typical because the FDA
has a strict approval process.Â* The COVID-19 vaccines have been exempted
from it, instead being temporarily "authorized" for emergency use.

These vaccines have coincided with 3,544 American deaths and 12,619
serious injuries as of April 23, according to the CDC's Vaccine Adverse
Event Reports System database (VAERS, republished "as is" in
user-friendly format here).Â* The flu vaccines by comparison are linked
to 20€“30 death reports a year, according to Dr. Peter McCullough, and
those 20€“30 death reports come with considerably more vaccines
administered.

This is precisely the kind of thing FDA approval is supposed to prevent.


https://www.americanthinker.com/arti...ath_spike.html


Evidently you do not know how to read and interpret the numbers
reported. Look at the fine print. The deaths have not been verified
from the vaccine.

If you got vaccinated yesterday, got killed in a car accident today, it
can be reported by anyone as a possible vaccine death.

Coincided with does not mean caused by.

That was the method used to count Covid deaths. If you had a sucking
chest wound from a gunshot and tested positive for Covid, it was a
Covid death.
CDC has changed that now and are looking at co morbidities and tossing
out anyone who had anything else wrong with them that could be to
blame.
The reality is nobody ever died of "Covid" if you have a sharp enough
pencil.

How many hospitals did you check with across the country before you came to
the conclusion that they were all committing fraud. None, you say? OK,
well, that explains things quite nicely.

The guy at Lee Memorial explained it quite succinctly. If you tested
positive for Covid when you were initially diagnosed, Covid goes on
the form. Once it is on the form, all "covid" connected deaths get
reported as such, even if that is not the listed cause of death. It is
a co morbidity.
BTW he also pointed out that is all he needs to get the medicare Covid
money. As long as it is in the initial diagnosis, it is a co
morbidity.

On Mon, 17 May 2021 20:31:27 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 17 May 2021 16:41:44 -0500, Jim Joyce
wrote:

On Mon, 17 May 2021 12:04:02 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 17 May 2021 10:30:27 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 5/17/2021 9:50 AM, Oliver George wrote:
If these were any other vaccines, they would already be off the market.

In fact, they would have been pulled a long time ago.* Usually, a new
drug is withdrawn after 50 deaths, which isn't typical because the FDA
has a strict approval process.* The COVID-19 vaccines have been exempted
from it, instead being temporarily "authorized" for emergency use.

These vaccines have coincided with 3,544 American deaths and 12,619
serious injuries as of April 23, according to the CDC's Vaccine Adverse
Event Reports System database (VAERS, republished "as is" in
user-friendly format here).* The flu vaccines by comparison are linked
to 20–30 death reports a year, according to Dr. Peter McCullough, and
those 20–30 death reports come with considerably more vaccines
administered.

This is precisely the kind of thing FDA approval is supposed to prevent.


https://www.americanthinker.com/arti...ath_spike.html


Evidently you do not know how to read and interpret the numbers
reported. Look at the fine print. The deaths have not been verified
from the vaccine.

If you got vaccinated yesterday, got killed in a car accident today, it
can be reported by anyone as a possible vaccine death.

Coincided with does not mean caused by.

That was the method used to count Covid deaths. If you had a sucking
chest wound from a gunshot and tested positive for Covid, it was a
Covid death.
CDC has changed that now and are looking at co morbidities and tossing
out anyone who had anything else wrong with them that could be to
blame.
The reality is nobody ever died of "Covid" if you have a sharp enough
pencil.

How many hospitals did you check with across the country before you came to
the conclusion that they were all committing fraud. None, you say? OK,
well, that explains things quite nicely.

The guy at Lee Memorial explained it quite succinctly. If you tested
positive for Covid when you were initially diagnosed, Covid goes on
the form. Once it is on the form, all "covid" connected deaths get
reported as such, even if that is not the listed cause of death. It is
a co morbidity.
BTW he also pointed out that is all he needs to get the medicare Covid
money. As long as it is in the initial diagnosis, it is a co
morbidity.

Thanks for admitting that you haven't checked with anyone prior to making
your false assertion. Such honesty seems to be rare these days.

On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 12:05:13 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Mon, 17 May 2021 10:30:27 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 5/17/2021 9:50 AM, Oliver George wrote:
If these were any other vaccines, they would already be off the market..

In fact, they would have been pulled a long time ago. Usually, a new
drug is withdrawn after 50 deaths, which isn't typical because the FDA
has a strict approval process. The COVID-19 vaccines have been exempted
from it, instead being temporarily "authorized" for emergency use.

These vaccines have coincided with 3,544 American deaths and 12,619
serious injuries as of April 23, according to the CDC's Vaccine Adverse
Event Reports System database (VAERS, republished "as is" in
user-friendly format here). The flu vaccines by comparison are linked
to 20€“30 death reports a year, according to Dr. Peter McCullough, and
those 20€“30 death reports come with considerably more vaccines
administered.

This is precisely the kind of thing FDA approval is supposed to prevent.


https://www.americanthinker.com/arti...ath_spike.html


Evidently you do not know how to read and interpret the numbers
reported. Look at the fine print. The deaths have not been verified
from the vaccine.

If you got vaccinated yesterday, got killed in a car accident today, it
can be reported by anyone as a possible vaccine death.

Coincided with does not mean caused by.
That was the method used to count Covid deaths. If you had a sucking
chest wound from a gunshot and tested positive for Covid, it was a
Covid death.
CDC has changed that now and are looking at co morbidities and tossing
out anyone who had anything else wrong with them that could be to
blame.
The reality is nobody ever died of "Covid" if you have a sharp enough
pencil. They usually had a cardiopulmonary failure that may have been
exacerbated by Covid. If there were preexisting conditions, it was an
opinion call. The opinions were changed by political reality.
The fact remained 65% of the population was not fully vaccinated when
the policy flipped last Friday.
I posted the CDC numbers as reported by Reuters a couple days ago.

They moved the goal posts for purely political reasons.
As I have been saying all along, the democrats know that if this mask
thing is not a distant memory next year, they lose the senate and
maybe the house.

As always, 1+1 = 6.
Someone finds one gun shot that was counted as a Covid death in
a country with 320 mil and 600K dead, you use it to spread FUD
and try to discredit the death count. I saw the hospitals overflowing,
I saw the hospitalization counts, I saw the trailers with dead bodies,
funeral homes overwhelmed and they were not from gun wounds.

On Tue, 18 May 2021 06:39:10 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 12:05:13 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Mon, 17 May 2021 10:30:27 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 5/17/2021 9:50 AM, Oliver George wrote:
If these were any other vaccines, they would already be off the market.

In fact, they would have been pulled a long time ago. Usually, a new
drug is withdrawn after 50 deaths, which isn't typical because the FDA
has a strict approval process. The COVID-19 vaccines have been exempted
from it, instead being temporarily "authorized" for emergency use.

These vaccines have coincided with 3,544 American deaths and 12,619
serious injuries as of April 23, according to the CDC's Vaccine Adverse
Event Reports System database (VAERS, republished "as is" in
user-friendly format here). The flu vaccines by comparison are linked
to 20€“30 death reports a year, according to Dr. Peter McCullough, and
those 20€“30 death reports come with considerably more vaccines
administered.

This is precisely the kind of thing FDA approval is supposed to prevent.


https://www.americanthinker.com/arti...ath_spike.html


Evidently you do not know how to read and interpret the numbers
reported. Look at the fine print. The deaths have not been verified
from the vaccine.

If you got vaccinated yesterday, got killed in a car accident today, it
can be reported by anyone as a possible vaccine death.

Coincided with does not mean caused by.
That was the method used to count Covid deaths. If you had a sucking
chest wound from a gunshot and tested positive for Covid, it was a
Covid death.
CDC has changed that now and are looking at co morbidities and tossing
out anyone who had anything else wrong with them that could be to
blame.
The reality is nobody ever died of "Covid" if you have a sharp enough
pencil. They usually had a cardiopulmonary failure that may have been
exacerbated by Covid. If there were preexisting conditions, it was an
opinion call. The opinions were changed by political reality.
The fact remained 65% of the population was not fully vaccinated when
the policy flipped last Friday.
I posted the CDC numbers as reported by Reuters a couple days ago.

They moved the goal posts for purely political reasons.
As I have been saying all along, the democrats know that if this mask
thing is not a distant memory next year, they lose the senate and
maybe the house.

As always, 1+1 = 6.
Someone finds one gun shot that was counted as a Covid death in
a country with 320 mil and 600K dead, you use it to spread FUD
and try to discredit the death count. I saw the hospitals overflowing,
I saw the hospitalization counts, I saw the trailers with dead bodies,
funeral homes overwhelmed and they were not from gun wounds.


Totally unrelated to what you were responding to but wtf. The moving
of the goal posts referred to the required vaccination rate before and
after last friday to justify removing your mask and that is
undeniable.
That was a politically motivated decision, no matter what CDC says.
There was certainly no real science involved.

wrote in message
...
On Tue, 18 May 2021 06:39:10 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 12:05:13 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Mon, 17 May 2021 10:30:27 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 5/17/2021 9:50 AM, Oliver George wrote:
If these were any other vaccines, they would already be off the
market.

In fact, they would have been pulled a long time ago. Usually, a new
drug is withdrawn after 50 deaths, which isn't typical because the
FDA
has a strict approval process. The COVID-19 vaccines have been
exempted
from it, instead being temporarily "authorized" for emergency use.

These vaccines have coincided with 3,544 American deaths and 12,619
serious injuries as of April 23, according to the CDC's Vaccine
Adverse
Event Reports System database (VAERS, republished "as is" in
user-friendly format here). The flu vaccines by comparison are linked
to 20€“30 death reports a year, according to Dr. Peter McCullough, and
those 20€“30 death reports come with considerably more vaccines
administered.

This is precisely the kind of thing FDA approval is supposed to
prevent.


https://www.americanthinker.com/arti...ath_spike.html


Evidently you do not know how to read and interpret the numbers
reported. Look at the fine print. The deaths have not been verified
from the vaccine.

If you got vaccinated yesterday, got killed in a car accident today, it
can be reported by anyone as a possible vaccine death.

Coincided with does not mean caused by.
That was the method used to count Covid deaths. If you had a sucking
chest wound from a gunshot and tested positive for Covid, it was a
Covid death.
CDC has changed that now and are looking at co morbidities and tossing
out anyone who had anything else wrong with them that could be to
blame.
The reality is nobody ever died of "Covid" if you have a sharp enough
pencil. They usually had a cardiopulmonary failure that may have been
exacerbated by Covid. If there were preexisting conditions, it was an
opinion call. The opinions were changed by political reality.
The fact remained 65% of the population was not fully vaccinated when
the policy flipped last Friday.
I posted the CDC numbers as reported by Reuters a couple days ago.

They moved the goal posts for purely political reasons.
As I have been saying all along, the democrats know that if this mask
thing is not a distant memory next year, they lose the senate and
maybe the house.

As always, 1+1 = 6.
Someone finds one gun shot that was counted as a Covid death in
a country with 320 mil and 600K dead, you use it to spread FUD
and try to discredit the death count. I saw the hospitals overflowing,
I saw the hospitalization counts, I saw the trailers with dead bodies,
funeral homes overwhelmed and they were not from gun wounds.


Totally unrelated to what you were responding to but wtf. The moving
of the goal posts referred to the required vaccination rate before and
after last friday to justify removing your mask and that is undeniable.

There were no goal posts and nothing moved.

That was a politically motivated decision, no matter what CDC says.
There was certainly no real science involved.

More utterly mindless bull****, your trademark.

On Tue, 18 May 2021 06:39:10 -0700 (PDT), trader_4 posted for all of us to
digest...


On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 12:05:13 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Mon, 17 May 2021 10:30:27 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 5/17/2021 9:50 AM, Oliver George wrote:
If these were any other vaccines, they would already be off the market.

In fact, they would have been pulled a long time ago. Usually, a new
drug is withdrawn after 50 deaths, which isn't typical because the FDA
has a strict approval process. The COVID-19 vaccines have been exempted
from it, instead being temporarily "authorized" for emergency use.

These vaccines have coincided with 3,544 American deaths and 12,619
serious injuries as of April 23, according to the CDC's Vaccine Adverse
Event Reports System database (VAERS, republished "as is" in
user-friendly format here). The flu vaccines by comparison are linked
to 20?30 death reports a year, according to Dr. Peter McCullough, and
those 20?30 death reports come with considerably more vaccines
administered.

This is precisely the kind of thing FDA approval is supposed to prevent.


https://www.americanthinker.com/arti...ath_spike.html


Evidently you do not know how to read and interpret the numbers
reported. Look at the fine print. The deaths have not been verified
from the vaccine.

If you got vaccinated yesterday, got killed in a car accident today, it
can be reported by anyone as a possible vaccine death.

Coincided with does not mean caused by.
That was the method used to count Covid deaths. If you had a sucking
chest wound from a gunshot and tested positive for Covid, it was a
Covid death.
CDC has changed that now and are looking at co morbidities and tossing
out anyone who had anything else wrong with them that could be to
blame.
The reality is nobody ever died of "Covid" if you have a sharp enough
pencil. They usually had a cardiopulmonary failure that may have been
exacerbated by Covid. If there were preexisting conditions, it was an
opinion call. The opinions were changed by political reality.
The fact remained 65% of the population was not fully vaccinated when
the policy flipped last Friday.
I posted the CDC numbers as reported by Reuters a couple days ago.

They moved the goal posts for purely political reasons.
As I have been saying all along, the democrats know that if this mask
thing is not a distant memory next year, they lose the senate and
maybe the house.

As always, 1+1 = 6.
Someone finds one gun shot that was counted as a Covid death in
a country with 320 mil and 600K dead, you use it to spread FUD
and try to discredit the death count. I saw the hospitals overflowing,
I saw the hospitalization counts, I saw the trailers with dead bodies,
funeral homes overwhelmed and they were not from gun wounds.

You did? Where? How many bodies in the trailers were Covid deaths? How many
were natural/usual for that time period? Same for the funeral homes. Get back
to us. Have any pictures or death certificates for backup? You an insider in
the death squad? How are things NOW? That is what you SHOULD be concerned
about, unless you like reliving history over and over again.

--
Tekkie

On Tuesday, May 18, 2021 at 4:25:53 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Tue, 18 May 2021 06:39:10 -0700 (PDT), trader_4 posted for all of us to
digest...


On Monday, May 17, 2021 at 12:05:13 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Mon, 17 May 2021 10:30:27 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 5/17/2021 9:50 AM, Oliver George wrote:
If these were any other vaccines, they would already be off the market.

In fact, they would have been pulled a long time ago. Usually, a new
drug is withdrawn after 50 deaths, which isn't typical because the FDA
has a strict approval process. The COVID-19 vaccines have been exempted
from it, instead being temporarily "authorized" for emergency use.

These vaccines have coincided with 3,544 American deaths and 12,619
serious injuries as of April 23, according to the CDC's Vaccine Adverse
Event Reports System database (VAERS, republished "as is" in
user-friendly format here). The flu vaccines by comparison are linked
to 20?30 death reports a year, according to Dr. Peter McCullough, and
those 20?30 death reports come with considerably more vaccines
administered.

This is precisely the kind of thing FDA approval is supposed to prevent.


https://www.americanthinker.com/arti...ath_spike.html


Evidently you do not know how to read and interpret the numbers
reported. Look at the fine print. The deaths have not been verified
from the vaccine.

If you got vaccinated yesterday, got killed in a car accident today, it
can be reported by anyone as a possible vaccine death.

Coincided with does not mean caused by.
That was the method used to count Covid deaths. If you had a sucking
chest wound from a gunshot and tested positive for Covid, it was a
Covid death.
CDC has changed that now and are looking at co morbidities and tossing
out anyone who had anything else wrong with them that could be to
blame.
The reality is nobody ever died of "Covid" if you have a sharp enough
pencil. They usually had a cardiopulmonary failure that may have been
exacerbated by Covid. If there were preexisting conditions, it was an
opinion call. The opinions were changed by political reality.
The fact remained 65% of the population was not fully vaccinated when
the policy flipped last Friday.
I posted the CDC numbers as reported by Reuters a couple days ago.

They moved the goal posts for purely political reasons.
As I have been saying all along, the democrats know that if this mask
thing is not a distant memory next year, they lose the senate and
maybe the house.

As always, 1+1 = 6.
Someone finds one gun shot that was counted as a Covid death in
a country with 320 mil and 600K dead, you use it to spread FUD
and try to discredit the death count. I saw the hospitals overflowing,
I saw the hospitalization counts, I saw the trailers with dead bodies,
funeral homes overwhelmed and they were not from gun wounds.
You did? Where?

We have this thing called TV you know. They showed the trailers in major
cities like NY, they interviewed hospital officials, morticians at funeral homes,
etc. You should try watching sometime.



How many bodies in the trailers were Covid deaths? How many
were natural/usual for that time period?

Is it normal to see trailers in the street used to store bodies because there
isn't enough room? Have you seen much of that in your lifetime. Any of it?
I never have, not in the USA. Then you get upset when we call you trumptards,
but after you are on record with nonsense like this, that sure fits.


Same for the funeral homes. Get back
to us.

Get back to us when you rejoin reality.

Have any pictures or death certificates for backup? You an insider in
the death squad? How are things NOW? That is what you SHOULD be concerned
about, unless you like reliving history over and over again.

--
Tekkie

On Mon, 17 May 2021 12:04:02 -0400, wrote:

That was the method used to count Covid deaths. If you had a sucking
chest wound from a gunshot and tested positive for Covid, it was a
Covid death.

No. COD is the MAIN cause of death.
Deaths BY COVID means exactly that.
If you died from a gunshot wound, that is what would appear as
COD.
HTH

Ironically, the #FAKE_NEWS is from something called "American
Thinker". And the Trumpets that read it believe it makes them
"Thinkers". LOL
Look it up. It's described as a "a not so thoughtful far-right
online publication."
Incredible people still believe in such trash, and put their
lives and lives of others on the line because of it.
[]'s
--
Don't be evil - Google 2004
We have a new policy - Google 2012

On 05/17/2021 08:30 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
Evidently you do not know how to read and interpret the numbers
reported. Look at the fine print. The deaths have not been verified
from the vaccine.

If you got vaccinated yesterday, got killed in a car accident today, it
can be reported by anyone as a possible vaccine death.

Coincided with does not mean caused by.

I believe the battle cry is correlation does not prove causation.

The radio this morning reported that in this state there are 139
'breakthrough' cases of fully vaccinated people. 2 have died and I
believe he said 20 were hospitalized

I'm assuming those cases were symptomatic enough to have been tested.


one wonders how many fully vaccinated people have asymptomatic
infections particularly if judged by the criteria prior to the CDC
backing off on the cycle count.

With the amazing evolution of science in a week I believe the CDC has
destroyed their final shred of credibility. They have managed to create
a complete cluster ****.

On Mon, 17 May 2021 20:26:24 -0600, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

On 05/17/2021 08:30 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
Evidently you do not know how to read and interpret the numbers
reported. Look at the fine print. The deaths have not been verified
from the vaccine.

If you got vaccinated yesterday, got killed in a car accident today, it
can be reported by anyone as a possible vaccine death.

Coincided with does not mean caused by.

I believe the battle cry is correlation does not prove causation.

I believe that, slowly but surely, all the other senile Yanks in this ng
will find out what an endlessly driveling bigmouth you are, lowbrowwoman!
BG

On Mon, 17 May 2021 09:50:11 -0400, Oliver George posted for all of us to
digest...


If these were any other vaccines, they would already be off the market.

In fact, they would have been pulled a long time ago. Usually, a new drug is withdrawn after 50 deaths, which isn't typical because the FDA has a
strict approval process. The COVID-19 vaccines have been exempted from it, instead being temporarily "authorized" for emergency use.

These vaccines have coincided with 3,544 American deaths and 12,619 serious injuries as of April 23, according to the CDC's Vaccine Adverse Event
Reports System database (VAERS, republished "as is" in user-friendly format here). The flu vaccines by comparison are linked to 20?30 death reports a
year, according to Dr. Peter McCullough, and those 20?30 death reports come with considerably more vaccines administered.

This is precisely the kind of thing FDA approval is supposed to prevent.


https://www.americanthinker.com/arti...ath_spike.html

OT: Politics - More blather

--
Tekkie

On 5/17/2021 9:50 AM, Oliver George wrote:
If these were any other vaccines, they would already be off the market.

In fact, they would have been pulled a long time ago.Â* Usually, a new
drug is withdrawn after 50 deaths, which isn't typical because the FDA
has a strict approval process.Â* The COVID-19 vaccines have been exempted
from it, instead being temporarily "authorized" for emergency use.

These vaccines have coincided with 3,544 American deaths and 12,619
serious injuries as of April 23, according to the CDC's Vaccine Adverse
Event Reports System database (VAERS, republished "as is" in
user-friendly format here).Â* The flu vaccines by comparison are linked
to 20€“30 death reports a year, according to Dr. Peter McCullough, and
those 20€“30 death reports come with considerably more vaccines
administered.

This is precisely the kind of thing FDA approval is supposed to prevent.


https://www.americanthinker.com/arti...ath_spike.html


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