Hi all, I have reached the capabilities of my Panasonic cordless phones for
blocking spam. (250). I have Verizon landline (not FIOS) so Nomorobo will not
work. Questions follow:

Buy new cordless phones with greater capacity?

If so recommend a brand: Panasonic - V-tech - ?

Buy a separate call blocker? e.g. CPR V5000

If so recommend a brand:

Other comments:

--
Tekkie

On 4/13/2021 4:03 PM, Tekkie� wrote:

Hi all, I have reached the capabilities of my Panasonic cordless phones for
blocking spam. (250). I have Verizon landline (not FIOS) so Nomorobo will not
work. Questions follow:

Buy new cordless phones with greater capacity?

If so recommend a brand: Panasonic - V-tech - ?

Buy a separate call blocker? e.g. CPR V5000

If so recommend a brand:

Other comments:


Start over. Chances are most of the numbers you blocked were forged
anyway and are not being used any more. I got three calls today that
were spoofed. In once case, it is a number I may need in the future.

Block all you want but the callers have many tools and use millions of
numbers.

On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 16:32:22 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 4/13/2021 4:03 PM, Tekkie? wrote:

Hi all, I have reached the capabilities of my Panasonic cordless phones for
blocking spam. (250). I have Verizon landline (not FIOS) so Nomorobo will not
work. Questions follow:
Buy new cordless phones with greater capacity?
If so recommend a brand: Panasonic - V-tech - ?
Buy a separate call blocker? e.g. CPR V5000
If so recommend a brand:
Other comments:


Start over. Chances are most of the numbers you blocked were forged
anyway and are not being used any more. I got three calls today that
were spoofed. In once case, it is a number I may need in the future.
Block all you want but the callers have many tools and use millions of
numbers.


Not in answer to the questions, but .. in my district -
the text-spam-blocking used by Telus -
mistakenly blocked all the text notifications for
covid vaccination appointments big Doh !
John T.

On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 16:32:22 -0400, Ed Pawlowski posted for all of us to
digest...


On 4/13/2021 4:03 PM, Tekkie? wrote:

Hi all, I have reached the capabilities of my Panasonic cordless phones for
blocking spam. (250). I have Verizon landline (not FIOS) so Nomorobo will not
work. Questions follow:

Buy new cordless phones with greater capacity?

If so recommend a brand: Panasonic - V-tech - ?

Buy a separate call blocker? e.g. CPR V5000

If so recommend a brand:

Other comments:


Start over. Chances are most of the numbers you blocked were forged
anyway and are not being used any more. I got three calls today that
were spoofed. In once case, it is a number I may need in the future.

Block all you want but the callers have many tools and use millions of
numbers.

I have done that, at least five times. Most of the spoofed numbers appear
local. Until the gov't forces the network providers to block them we are SOL.

The only reason I am interested is the wife asks who called? Endlessly.

--
Tekkie

On Tuesday, April 13, 2021 at 3:03:54 PM UTC-5, wrote:
Hi all, I have reached the capabilities of my Panasonic cordless phones for
blocking spam. (250). I have Verizon landline (not FIOS) so Nomorobo will not
work. Questions follow:

Buy new cordless phones with greater capacity?

If so recommend a brand: Panasonic - V-tech - ?

Buy a separate call blocker? e.g. CPR V5000

If so recommend a brand:

Other comments:

--
Tekkie

Consumer Reports calls these Best Buys.
AT&T EL51103 Rated 68. $25
AT&T EL51203 Rated 68. $35

With Answering Machines. Also Best Buys.

Some have several handsets, Bluetooth, charging port, battery backup.
Panasonic KX-TGE445B Rated 75. $130
VTech CS6949 Rated 75. $45
Panasonic KX-TGE463S Rated 74. $105
VTech CS6649 Rated 72. $50
Panasonic KX-TGE433B Rated 72. $90

The last tests might be in September 2016.

On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 17:17:27 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 16:32:22 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 4/13/2021 4:03 PM, Tekkie? wrote:

Hi all, I have reached the capabilities of my Panasonic cordless phones for
blocking spam. (250). I have Verizon landline (not FIOS) so Nomorobo will not
work. Questions follow:
Buy new cordless phones with greater capacity?
If so recommend a brand: Panasonic - V-tech - ?
Buy a separate call blocker? e.g. CPR V5000
If so recommend a brand:
Other comments:


Start over. Chances are most of the numbers you blocked were forged
anyway and are not being used any more. I got three calls today that
were spoofed. In once case, it is a number I may need in the future.
Block all you want but the callers have many tools and use millions of
numbers.


Not in answer to the questions, but .. in my district -
the text-spam-blocking used by Telus -
mistakenly blocked all the text notifications for
covid vaccination appointments big Doh !
John T.

I have heard that complaint here too with the texts and people hang up
on the call or just ignore it.

On 4/13/2021 5:44 PM, Tekkie� wrote:

On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 16:32:22 -0400, Ed Pawlowski posted for all of us to
digest...


On 4/13/2021 4:03 PM, Tekkie? wrote:

Hi all, I have reached the capabilities of my Panasonic cordless phones for
blocking spam. (250). I have Verizon landline (not FIOS) so Nomorobo will not
work. Questions follow:

Buy new cordless phones with greater capacity?

If so recommend a brand: Panasonic - V-tech - ?

Buy a separate call blocker? e.g. CPR V5000

If so recommend a brand:

Other comments:


Start over. Chances are most of the numbers you blocked were forged
anyway and are not being used any more. I got three calls today that
were spoofed. In once case, it is a number I may need in the future.

Block all you want but the callers have many tools and use millions of
numbers.

I have done that, at least five times. Most of the spoofed numbers appear
local. Until the gov't forces the network providers to block them we are SOL.

The only reason I am interested is the wife asks who called? Endlessly.


My wife had blocked one of my consulting clients a while back. It is
useless to block as numbers are forged.

Our current Comcast VoIP now puts a "V" in front of a caller's name to
say call is verified as coming from that number.

I had a Verizon landline that I gave up a few years ago. While it was
on fiber they charged old landline prices charging extra for long
distance and things like caller ID and call block.

On 4/13/2021 5:44 PM, Tekkie� wrote:

On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 16:32:22 -0400, Ed Pawlowski posted for all of us to
digest...


On 4/13/2021 4:03 PM, Tekkie? wrote:

Hi all, I have reached the capabilities of my Panasonic cordless phones for
blocking spam. (250). I have Verizon landline (not FIOS) so Nomorobo will not
work. Questions follow:

Buy new cordless phones with greater capacity?

If so recommend a brand: Panasonic - V-tech - ?

Buy a separate call blocker? e.g. CPR V5000

If so recommend a brand:

Other comments:


Start over. Chances are most of the numbers you blocked were forged
anyway and are not being used any more. I got three calls today that
were spoofed. In once case, it is a number I may need in the future.

Block all you want but the callers have many tools and use millions of
numbers.

I have done that, at least five times. Most of the spoofed numbers appear
local. Until the gov't forces the network providers to block them we are SOL.

The only reason I am interested is the wife asks who called? Endlessly.


You need Wifeblocker, version 2.1 recently released. Available at a
divorce lawyer near you.

On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 17:44:48 -0400, Tekkie© wrote:


On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 16:32:22 -0400, Ed Pawlowski posted for all of us to
digest...


On 4/13/2021 4:03 PM, Tekkie? wrote:

Hi all, I have reached the capabilities of my Panasonic cordless phones for
blocking spam. (250). I have Verizon landline (not FIOS) so Nomorobo will not
work. Questions follow:

Buy new cordless phones with greater capacity?

If so recommend a brand: Panasonic - V-tech - ?

Buy a separate call blocker? e.g. CPR V5000

If so recommend a brand:

Other comments:


Start over. Chances are most of the numbers you blocked were forged
anyway and are not being used any more. I got three calls today that
were spoofed. In once case, it is a number I may need in the future.

Block all you want but the callers have many tools and use millions of
numbers.

I have done that, at least five times. Most of the spoofed numbers appear
local. Until the gov't forces the network providers to block them we are SOL.

Use a number from a non-local Area Code, then ignore all calls from that
Area Code. That has been extremely effective for me.

On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 16:03:54 -0400, Tekkie©
wrote:


Hi all, I have reached the capabilities of my Panasonic cordless phones for
blocking spam. (250). I have Verizon landline (not FIOS) so Nomorobo will not
work. Questions follow:

Buy new cordless phones with greater capacity?

If so recommend a brand: Panasonic - V-tech - ?

Buy a separate call blocker? e.g. CPR V5000

If so recommend a brand:

Other comments:
Switch to VOIP like OOMA and pay for the premium service - still
cheaper than POTS

On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 00:34:00 -0400, Clare Snyder
wrote:

On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 16:03:54 -0400, Tekkie©
wrote:


Hi all, I have reached the capabilities of my Panasonic cordless phones for
blocking spam. (250). I have Verizon landline (not FIOS) so Nomorobo will not
work. Questions follow:

Buy new cordless phones with greater capacity?

If so recommend a brand: Panasonic - V-tech - ?

Buy a separate call blocker? e.g. CPR V5000

If so recommend a brand:

Other comments:
Switch to VOIP like OOMA and pay for the premium service - still
cheaper than POTS

If cost is a concern, Google Voice is apparently still free (at least
within the US) and comes preconfigured on Obihai VoIP devices and possibly
others, as well.

I still have an Obi202 around here somewhere.

On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 16:03:54 -0400, Tekkie© wrote:


Hi all, I have reached the capabilities of my Panasonic cordless phones for
blocking spam. (250). I have Verizon landline (not FIOS) so Nomorobo will not
work. Questions follow:

Buy new cordless phones with greater capacity?

If so recommend a brand: Panasonic - V-tech - ?

Buy a separate call blocker? e.g. CPR V5000

If so recommend a brand:

Other comments:

I gave up marking calls spam on my Ooma after realizing the numbers are endless.
Now I just pick up and hang up if it's not a known caller.
That national no-call list was nice - when it still worked.

On 4/13/2021 4:03 PM, Tekkie� wrote:

Hi all, I have reached the capabilities of my Panasonic cordless phones for
blocking spam. (250). I have Verizon landline (not FIOS) so Nomorobo will not
work. Questions follow:

Buy new cordless phones with greater capacity?

If so recommend a brand: Panasonic - V-tech - ?

Buy a separate call blocker? e.g. CPR V5000

If so recommend a brand:

Other comments:


I assume you don't have caller I.D. If your line is purely residential,
consider letting all calls go to voice mail/answering machine possibly
screening them as the messages are left. Never pick up or return the
spam calls. We've never had a live person spam caller leave a message.

The above strategy may or may not be a practical solution if the line is
used for business purposes.

If you do have caller I.D. our panasonic wireless system allows you to
sort incoming calls from numbers in the phone's directory into as many
as 5 categories and you can assign a different ring tone to each
category. We have all numbers from callers we consider "important"
assigned to one ringtone and all other numbers to another. Important
calls get answered. All the others are left to go to voice mail. About
90% of all those calls are either robo calls that sneak through NOMOROBO
and Comcast and leave their recorded junk, or are live person spam calls
and no message is left.

On Tuesday, April 13, 2021 at 3:03:54 PM UTC-5, wrote:
Hi all, I have reached the capabilities of my Panasonic cordless phones for
blocking spam. (250). I have Verizon landline (not FIOS) so Nomorobo will not
work. Questions follow:

Buy new cordless phones with greater capacity?

If so recommend a brand: Panasonic - V-tech - ?

Buy a separate call blocker? e.g. CPR V5000

If so recommend a brand:

Other comments:

--
Tekkie

I have Spectrum cable and phone. The phone number of incoming calls pops up on top of my tv screen
when the phone rings. Is there something similar you could use? Is there a way to accept certain calls but send
unknowns to voice mail? Maybe forward the ones you want to a cheap cell phone?

On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 07:06:01 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 16:03:54 -0400, Tekkie© wrote:


Hi all, I have reached the capabilities of my Panasonic cordless phones for
blocking spam. (250). I have Verizon landline (not FIOS) so Nomorobo will not
work. Questions follow:

Buy new cordless phones with greater capacity?

If so recommend a brand: Panasonic - V-tech - ?

Buy a separate call blocker? e.g. CPR V5000

If so recommend a brand:

Other comments:

I gave up marking calls spam on my Ooma after realizing the numbers are endless.
Now I just pick up and hang up if it's not a known caller.
That national no-call list was nice - when it still worked.

Did it ever work?
If the phone company can't even detect a forged number I guess that
old "trace a call" thing went out the window with Ernestine.
I wonder if there is a way to block all VOIP calls.
Everyone I know calls me from their cell phone.
Businesses can just E-mail me. I don't want any of them calling me.

On 4/13/21 3:03 PM, Tekkie� wrote:

Hi all, I have reached the capabilities of my Panasonic cordless phones for
blocking spam. (250). I have Verizon landline (not FIOS) so Nomorobo will not
work. Questions follow:

Buy new cordless phones with greater capacity?

If so recommend a brand: Panasonic - V-tech - ?

Buy a separate call blocker? e.g. CPR V5000

If so recommend a brand:

Other comments:
Mine filled up and I had to erase it and start over (although I could
add a few recent numbers from CID memory). It would have been nice if it
automatically deleted least-recently-used entries rather than failing.

They use so many different numbers now that blocking by number isn't
very useful. Since most of these junk calls are identified by "city st"
(for example "OGDEN UT" or "SPRING TX") as the caller ID NAME, so a lot
could be blocked by using pattern matching on NAME. Patterns like "*
UT". However, I have never seen any device that would do that (it would
be very useful).

I finally settled for a whitelist device which will intercept calls if
the caller's number isn't on a list you enter.

https://www.amazon.com/Tel-Sentry-Automatic-Blocking-Election-without/dp/B00U1PPWDO/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=sentry+2.0&qid=161841 9389&s=electronics&sr=1-4
--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"The beating of humanity's heart cannot be felt by placing the finger on
the church's pulse." [Lemuel K. Washburn, _Is The Bible Worth Reading
And Other Essays_]

On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 11:01:11 -0400, Retirednoguilt
wrote:

On 4/13/2021 4:03 PM, Tekkie? wrote:

Hi all, I have reached the capabilities of my Panasonic cordless phones for
blocking spam. (250). I have Verizon landline (not FIOS) so Nomorobo will not
work. Questions follow:

Buy new cordless phones with greater capacity?

If so recommend a brand: Panasonic - V-tech - ?

Buy a separate call blocker? e.g. CPR V5000

If so recommend a brand:

Other comments:


I assume you don't have caller I.D. If your line is purely residential,
consider letting all calls go to voice mail/answering machine possibly
screening them as the messages are left. Never pick up or return the
spam calls. We've never had a live person spam caller leave a message.

The above strategy may or may not be a practical solution if the line is
used for business purposes.

If you do have caller I.D. our panasonic wireless system allows you to
sort incoming calls from numbers in the phone's directory into as many
as 5 categories and you can assign a different ring tone to each
category. We have all numbers from callers we consider "important"
assigned to one ringtone and all other numbers to another. Important
calls get answered. All the others are left to go to voice mail. About
90% of all those calls are either robo calls that sneak through NOMOROBO
and Comcast and leave their recorded junk, or are live person spam calls
and no message is left.

Most of these seem to hang up before my answering machine even picks
up. If not they won't leave a message most of the time.
I only have one phone here that rings and I turn that ringer off a lot
or set it so low I have to be right there to hear it. The first thing
I usually hear is the message people are leaving, if they leave one.

On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 12:26:33 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 07:06:01 -0500, Vic Smith

I gave up marking calls spam on my Ooma after realizing the numbers are endless.
Now I just pick up and hang up if it's not a known caller.
That national no-call list was nice - when it still worked.

Did it ever work?

It worked well for me for at least 5 years after it started. I recall telling a few
callers not to call again or I'd report them to the FTC. I just checked and I signed up in
2003.

If the phone company can't even detect a forged number I guess that
old "trace a call" thing went out the window with Ernestine.
I wonder if there is a way to block all VOIP calls.
Everyone I know calls me from their cell phone.
Businesses can just E-mail me. I don't want any of them calling me.

I have no idea who's calling because I never listen. Anybody know who's calling me?
I probably average 2 calls a day but some days - today is one - get none.
I had assumed the do not call list was defunct, but I see the FTC still has it running.
So I think it only scammers calling. Does anybody actually listen to them?

On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 18:46:03 -0400, Frank posted for all of us to digest...


On 4/13/2021 5:44 PM, Tekkie? wrote:

On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 16:32:22 -0400, Ed Pawlowski posted for all of us to
digest...


On 4/13/2021 4:03 PM, Tekkie? wrote:

Hi all, I have reached the capabilities of my Panasonic cordless phones for
blocking spam. (250). I have Verizon landline (not FIOS) so Nomorobo will not
work. Questions follow:

Buy new cordless phones with greater capacity?

If so recommend a brand: Panasonic - V-tech - ?

Buy a separate call blocker? e.g. CPR V5000

If so recommend a brand:

Other comments:


Start over. Chances are most of the numbers you blocked were forged
anyway and are not being used any more. I got three calls today that
were spoofed. In once case, it is a number I may need in the future.

Block all you want but the callers have many tools and use millions of
numbers.

I have done that, at least five times. Most of the spoofed numbers appear
local. Until the gov't forces the network providers to block them we are SOL.

The only reason I am interested is the wife asks who called? Endlessly.


My wife had blocked one of my consulting clients a while back. It is
useless to block as numbers are forged.

Our current Comcast VoIP now puts a "V" in front of a caller's name to
say call is verified as coming from that number.

I had a Verizon landline that I gave up a few years ago. While it was
on fiber they charged old landline prices charging extra for long
distance and things like caller ID and call block.

I can't get call block from Verizon, guess they can't make as much money...

--
Tekkie

On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 19:03:52 -0400, Ed Pawlowski posted for all of us to
digest...


On 4/13/2021 5:44 PM, Tekkie? wrote:

On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 16:32:22 -0400, Ed Pawlowski posted for all of us to
digest...


On 4/13/2021 4:03 PM, Tekkie? wrote:

Hi all, I have reached the capabilities of my Panasonic cordless phones for
blocking spam. (250). I have Verizon landline (not FIOS) so Nomorobo will not
work. Questions follow:

Buy new cordless phones with greater capacity?

If so recommend a brand: Panasonic - V-tech - ?

Buy a separate call blocker? e.g. CPR V5000

If so recommend a brand:

Other comments:


Start over. Chances are most of the numbers you blocked were forged
anyway and are not being used any more. I got three calls today that
were spoofed. In once case, it is a number I may need in the future.

Block all you want but the callers have many tools and use millions of
numbers.

I have done that, at least five times. Most of the spoofed numbers appear
local. Until the gov't forces the network providers to block them we are SOL.

The only reason I am interested is the wife asks who called? Endlessly.


You need Wifeblocker, version 2.1 recently released. Available at a
divorce lawyer near you.

Nah, she's so great in so many ways.

--
Tekkie

On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 19:39:12 -0500, Jim Joyce posted for all of us to digest...


On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 17:44:48 -0400, Tekkie© wrote:


On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 16:32:22 -0400, Ed Pawlowski posted for all of us to
digest...


On 4/13/2021 4:03 PM, Tekkie? wrote:

Hi all, I have reached the capabilities of my Panasonic cordless phones for
blocking spam. (250). I have Verizon landline (not FIOS) so Nomorobo will not
work. Questions follow:

Buy new cordless phones with greater capacity?

If so recommend a brand: Panasonic - V-tech - ?

Buy a separate call blocker? e.g. CPR V5000

If so recommend a brand:

Other comments:


Start over. Chances are most of the numbers you blocked were forged
anyway and are not being used any more. I got three calls today that
were spoofed. In once case, it is a number I may need in the future.

Block all you want but the callers have many tools and use millions of
numbers.

I have done that, at least five times. Most of the spoofed numbers appear
local. Until the gov't forces the network providers to block them we are SOL.

Use a number from a non-local Area Code, then ignore all calls from that
Area Code. That has been extremely effective for me.

I don't understand... Would that mean I would have to change my phone # ?

--
Tekkie

On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 08:33:01 -0700 (PDT), Dean Hoffman posted for all of us to
digest...


On Tuesday, April 13, 2021 at 3:03:54 PM UTC-5, wrote:
Hi all, I have reached the capabilities of my Panasonic cordless phones for
blocking spam. (250). I have Verizon landline (not FIOS) so Nomorobo will not
work. Questions follow:

Buy new cordless phones with greater capacity?

If so recommend a brand: Panasonic - V-tech - ?

Buy a separate call blocker? e.g. CPR V5000

If so recommend a brand:

Other comments:

--
Tekkie

I have Spectrum cable and phone. The phone number of incoming calls pops up on top of my tv screen
when the phone rings. Is there something similar you could use? Is there a way to accept certain calls but send
unknowns to voice mail? Maybe forward the ones you want to a cheap cell phone?

I had Comcast voice for awhile, didn't really like it. That acts similar to
what you posted. Forwarding will only confuse my wife...

--
Tekkie

On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 11:01:11 -0400, Retirednoguilt posted for all of us to
digest...


I assume you don't have caller I.D. If your line is purely residential,
consider letting all calls go to voice mail/answering machine possibly
screening them as the messages are left. Never pick up or return the
spam calls. We've never had a live person spam caller leave a message.

The above strategy may or may not be a practical solution if the line is
used for business purposes.

If you do have caller I.D. our panasonic wireless system allows you to
sort incoming calls from numbers in the phone's directory into as many
as 5 categories and you can assign a different ring tone to each
category. We have all numbers from callers we consider "important"
assigned to one ringtone and all other numbers to another. Important
calls get answered. All the others are left to go to voice mail. About
90% of all those calls are either robo calls that sneak through NOMOROBO
and Comcast and leave their recorded junk, or are live person spam calls
and no message is left.


I do have caller ID and follow what you do. It is my wife that has the
compulsion to know what every call is.

--
Tekkie

On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 11:58:06 -0500, Mark Lloyd posted for all of us to
digest...


On 4/13/21 3:03 PM, Tekkie? wrote:

Hi all, I have reached the capabilities of my Panasonic cordless phones for
blocking spam. (250). I have Verizon landline (not FIOS) so Nomorobo will not
work. Questions follow:

Buy new cordless phones with greater capacity?

If so recommend a brand: Panasonic - V-tech - ?

Buy a separate call blocker? e.g. CPR V5000

If so recommend a brand:

Other comments:
Mine filled up and I had to erase it and start over (although I could
add a few recent numbers from CID memory). It would have been nice if it
automatically deleted least-recently-used entries rather than failing.

They use so many different numbers now that blocking by number isn't
very useful. Since most of these junk calls are identified by "city st"
(for example "OGDEN UT" or "SPRING TX") as the caller ID NAME, so a lot
could be blocked by using pattern matching on NAME. Patterns like "*
UT". However, I have never seen any device that would do that (it would
be very useful).

I finally settled for a whitelist device which will intercept calls if
the caller's number isn't on a list you enter.

https://www.amazon.com/Tel-Sentry-Automatic-Blocking-Election-without/dp/B00U1PPWDO/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=sentry+2.0&qid=161841 9389&s=electronics&sr=1-4

That is what some of the devices I was looking at. Thanks

--
Tekkie

On 4/14/2021 5:40 PM, Tekkie� wrote:

On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 11:01:11 -0400, Retirednoguilt posted for all of us to
digest...


I assume you don't have caller I.D. If your line is purely residential,
consider letting all calls go to voice mail/answering machine possibly
screening them as the messages are left. Never pick up or return the
spam calls. We've never had a live person spam caller leave a message.

The above strategy may or may not be a practical solution if the line is
used for business purposes.

If you do have caller I.D. our panasonic wireless system allows you to
sort incoming calls from numbers in the phone's directory into as many
as 5 categories and you can assign a different ring tone to each
category. We have all numbers from callers we consider "important"
assigned to one ringtone and all other numbers to another. Important
calls get answered. All the others are left to go to voice mail. About
90% of all those calls are either robo calls that sneak through NOMOROBO
and Comcast and leave their recorded junk, or are live person spam calls
and no message is left.


I do have caller ID and follow what you do. It is my wife that has the
compulsion to know what every call is.


Easy solution. She answers the phone.

On 4/14/21 4:43 PM, Tekkie� wrote:

[snip]

https://www.amazon.com/Tel-Sentry-Automatic-Blocking-Election-without/dp/B00U1PPWDO/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=sentry+2.0&qid=161841 9389&s=electronics&sr=1-4

That is what some of the devices I was looking at. Thanks

They say there is a newer version available, and that one might be
easier to use. It was not available at the time I bought one.

--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"The sense of spiritual relief which comes from rejecting the idea of
God as a supernatural being is enormous." [Julian Huxley]

On 4/14/21 4:09 PM, Vic Smith wrote:

[snip]

It worked well for me for at least 5 years after it started. I recall telling a few
callers not to call again or I'd report them to the FTC. I just checked and I signed up in
2003.

Reporting a junk caller would require knowing WHO to report. Can you
really expect them to provide that information?

[snip]

--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"The sense of spiritual relief which comes from rejecting the idea of
God as a supernatural being is enormous." [Julian Huxley]

On 4/14/21 7:06 AM, Vic Smith wrote:

[snip]

I gave up marking calls spam on my Ooma after realizing the numbers are endless.
Now I just pick up and hang up if it's not a known caller.

If a home phone with caller ID, you don't need to pick up to know. Most
of these junk calls are obvious when you look at the name on the
display. Often a city and state like "CENTER TX". Those are almost all
junk calls. There's also TOLL FREE CALL.

I don't know why there are no CID-name based blockers. That could really
help, especially with pattern matching. "* TX" could block a lot of
those calls.

That national no-call list was nice - when it still worked.

Yes it was. I remember when that service was started. Almost no junk calls.

--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"The sense of spiritual relief which comes from rejecting the idea of
God as a supernatural being is enormous." [Julian Huxley]

On 4/13/21 7:39 PM, Jim Joyce wrote:

[snip]

Use a number from a non-local Area Code, then ignore all calls from that
Area Code. That has been extremely effective for me.

I get a few junk calls from my area code and a lot of calls from other
areas. This wouldn't be a very good solution.

Looking at the CID name is still a much better solution.

--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"The sense of spiritual relief which comes from rejecting the idea of
God as a supernatural being is enormous." [Julian Huxley]

On Thu, 15 Apr 2021 12:24:10 -0500, Mark Lloyd
wrote:

On 4/14/21 7:06 AM, Vic Smith wrote:

[snip]

I gave up marking calls spam on my Ooma after realizing the numbers are endless.
Now I just pick up and hang up if it's not a known caller.

If a home phone with caller ID, you don't need to pick up to know. Most
of these junk calls are obvious when you look at the name on the
display. Often a city and state like "CENTER TX". Those are almost all
junk calls. There's also TOLL FREE CALL.

I don't know why there are no CID-name based blockers. That could really
help, especially with pattern matching. "* TX" could block a lot of
those calls.

That national no-call list was nice - when it still worked.

Yes it was. I remember when that service was started. Almost no junk calls.

I never stopped getting calls from local businesses in spite of being
on the national and Florida no call list. Reporting them did not seem
to do much. I am not sure what loophole they exploited but I never
heard about any of them getting it trouble.
I was pretty aggressive about trying to fill out that form but the
real scammers must have key words they look for because no matter how
long you talk or how you work around the questions they figure out you
are harvesting the information you need and they hang up.

wrote in message
...
On Thu, 15 Apr 2021 12:24:10 -0500, Mark Lloyd
wrote:

On 4/14/21 7:06 AM, Vic Smith wrote:

[snip]

I gave up marking calls spam on my Ooma after realizing the numbers are
endless.
Now I just pick up and hang up if it's not a known caller.

If a home phone with caller ID, you don't need to pick up to know. Most
of these junk calls are obvious when you look at the name on the
display. Often a city and state like "CENTER TX". Those are almost all
junk calls. There's also TOLL FREE CALL.

I don't know why there are no CID-name based blockers. That could really
help, especially with pattern matching. "* TX" could block a lot of
those calls.

That national no-call list was nice - when it still worked.

Yes it was. I remember when that service was started. Almost no junk
calls.

I never stopped getting calls from local businesses in spite of being
on the national and Florida no call list. Reporting them did not seem
to do much. I am not sure what loophole they exploited but I never
heard about any of them getting it trouble.

I was pretty aggressive about trying to fill out that form but the
real scammers must have key words they look for because no matter how
long you talk or how you work around the questions they figure out you
are harvesting the information you need and they hang up.

You must have ****ed that up. All you have to do is agree
that you need what they are trying to flog. They have to
tell you who they are for you to be able to show up in
their store or pay for what they are flogging on the phone.

On 4/15/2021 1:24 PM, Mark Lloyd wrote:


If a home phone with caller ID, you don't need to pick up to know. Most
of these junk calls are obvious when you look at the name on the
display. Often a city and state like "CENTER TX". Those are almost all
junk calls. There's also TOLL FREE CALL.

Most, but not all. In the past two days one listed the local hospital,
another was a garage door service company, a couple were names of people.

Too easy to spoof a name.

On Thu, 15 Apr 2021 12:17:50 -0500, Mark Lloyd wrote:

On 4/14/21 4:09 PM, Vic Smith wrote:

[snip]

It worked well for me for at least 5 years after it started. I recall telling a few
callers not to call again or I'd report them to the FTC. I just checked and I signed up in
2003.

Reporting a junk caller would require knowing WHO to report. Can you
really expect them to provide that information?


Back then when I got the occasional spam call, they identified themselves, and when I told
them I was on the do not call list I never heard from them again. For example, credit card
companies trying to get me on board, insurance companies, etc. etc.
I have no idea who's calling me now, because I never listen. My caller id shows me a
name/number and I pickup the phone, hit answer and then hit hang up. Takes all of 3
seconds. To stop the phone from ringing. I found that's better than hearing it ring 4-5
five times before it goes to voice mail. I always got missed call, because they don't
leave a message. Picking up and hanging up seems to be working, because since I started
doing that I get a lot less calls. I used to block those missed calls on Ooma, but that
didn't do ****.
That's why I asked if anybody knows who's calling. That's the only way I'm gonna find
out, because no way I'm going to listen to a single second of a spam call.
They can go pound sand.

On Thu, 15 Apr 2021 13:59:04 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 15 Apr 2021 12:24:10 -0500, Mark Lloyd
wrote:

On 4/14/21 7:06 AM, Vic Smith wrote:

[snip]

I gave up marking calls spam on my Ooma after realizing the numbers are endless.
Now I just pick up and hang up if it's not a known caller.

If a home phone with caller ID, you don't need to pick up to know. Most
of these junk calls are obvious when you look at the name on the
display. Often a city and state like "CENTER TX". Those are almost all
junk calls. There's also TOLL FREE CALL.

I don't know why there are no CID-name based blockers. That could really
help, especially with pattern matching. "* TX" could block a lot of
those calls.

That national no-call list was nice - when it still worked.

Yes it was. I remember when that service was started. Almost no junk calls.

I never stopped getting calls from local businesses in spite of being
on the national and Florida no call list. Reporting them did not seem
to do much. I am not sure what loophole they exploited but I never
heard about any of them getting it trouble.
I was pretty aggressive about trying to fill out that form but the
real scammers must have key words they look for because no matter how
long you talk or how you work around the questions they figure out you
are harvesting the information you need and they hang up.

Would have saved your time if you just told them **** you and hung up.

On Fri, 16 Apr 2021 05:26:13 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

FLUSH the trolling senile asshole's latest troll**** unread

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 15 Apr 2021 13:59:04 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 15 Apr 2021 12:24:10 -0500, Mark Lloyd
wrote:

On 4/14/21 7:06 AM, Vic Smith wrote:

[snip]

I gave up marking calls spam on my Ooma after realizing the numbers are
endless.
Now I just pick up and hang up if it's not a known caller.

If a home phone with caller ID, you don't need to pick up to know. Most
of these junk calls are obvious when you look at the name on the
display. Often a city and state like "CENTER TX". Those are almost all
junk calls. There's also TOLL FREE CALL.

I don't know why there are no CID-name based blockers. That could really
help, especially with pattern matching. "* TX" could block a lot of
those calls.

That national no-call list was nice - when it still worked.

Yes it was. I remember when that service was started. Almost no junk
calls.

I never stopped getting calls from local businesses in spite of being
on the national and Florida no call list. Reporting them did not seem
to do much. I am not sure what loophole they exploited but I never
heard about any of them getting it trouble.
I was pretty aggressive about trying to fill out that form but the
real scammers must have key words they look for because no matter how
long you talk or how you work around the questions they figure out you
are harvesting the information you need and they hang up.

Would have saved your time if you just told them **** you and hung up.

But that wouldn't let you dob them in to the FTC.

On Fri, 16 Apr 2021 06:31:47 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


Would have saved your time if you just told them **** you and hung up.

But that wouldn't let you dob them in to the FTC.

Idiotic auto-contradicting senile cretin! LMAO

--
Marland answering senile Rodent's statement, "I don't leak":
"That¢s because so much **** and ****e emanates from your gob that there is
nothing left to exit normally, your arsehole has clammed shut through disuse
and the end of prick is only clear because you are such a ******."
Message-ID:

On Fri, 16 Apr 2021 05:26:13 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote:



wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 15 Apr 2021 12:24:10 -0500, Mark Lloyd
wrote:

On 4/14/21 7:06 AM, Vic Smith wrote:

[snip]

I gave up marking calls spam on my Ooma after realizing the numbers are
endless.
Now I just pick up and hang up if it's not a known caller.

If a home phone with caller ID, you don't need to pick up to know. Most
of these junk calls are obvious when you look at the name on the
display. Often a city and state like "CENTER TX". Those are almost all
junk calls. There's also TOLL FREE CALL.

I don't know why there are no CID-name based blockers. That could really
help, especially with pattern matching. "* TX" could block a lot of
those calls.

That national no-call list was nice - when it still worked.

Yes it was. I remember when that service was started. Almost no junk
calls.

I never stopped getting calls from local businesses in spite of being
on the national and Florida no call list. Reporting them did not seem
to do much. I am not sure what loophole they exploited but I never
heard about any of them getting it trouble.

I was pretty aggressive about trying to fill out that form but the
real scammers must have key words they look for because no matter how
long you talk or how you work around the questions they figure out you
are harvesting the information you need and they hang up.

You must have ****ed that up. All you have to do is agree
that you need what they are trying to flog. They have to
tell you who they are for you to be able to show up in
their store or pay for what they are flogging on the phone.

It depends on the scam. Sometimes they just want you to give up some
personal information and they are not really selling you anything.
Even if they are selling something they only want your credit card
number and name.

On Thu, 15 Apr 2021 14:55:53 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Thu, 15 Apr 2021 13:59:04 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 15 Apr 2021 12:24:10 -0500, Mark Lloyd
wrote:

On 4/14/21 7:06 AM, Vic Smith wrote:

[snip]

I gave up marking calls spam on my Ooma after realizing the numbers are endless.
Now I just pick up and hang up if it's not a known caller.

If a home phone with caller ID, you don't need to pick up to know. Most
of these junk calls are obvious when you look at the name on the
display. Often a city and state like "CENTER TX". Those are almost all
junk calls. There's also TOLL FREE CALL.

I don't know why there are no CID-name based blockers. That could really
help, especially with pattern matching. "* TX" could block a lot of
those calls.

That national no-call list was nice - when it still worked.

Yes it was. I remember when that service was started. Almost no junk calls.

I never stopped getting calls from local businesses in spite of being
on the national and Florida no call list. Reporting them did not seem
to do much. I am not sure what loophole they exploited but I never
heard about any of them getting it trouble.
I was pretty aggressive about trying to fill out that form but the
real scammers must have key words they look for because no matter how
long you talk or how you work around the questions they figure out you
are harvesting the information you need and they hang up.

Would have saved your time if you just told them **** you and hung up.

I figured that out but I did try to give the system a chance to work.

On Fri, 16 Apr 2021 06:31:47 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote:



"Vic Smith" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 15 Apr 2021 13:59:04 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 15 Apr 2021 12:24:10 -0500, Mark Lloyd
wrote:

On 4/14/21 7:06 AM, Vic Smith wrote:

[snip]

I gave up marking calls spam on my Ooma after realizing the numbers are
endless.
Now I just pick up and hang up if it's not a known caller.

If a home phone with caller ID, you don't need to pick up to know. Most
of these junk calls are obvious when you look at the name on the
display. Often a city and state like "CENTER TX". Those are almost all
junk calls. There's also TOLL FREE CALL.

I don't know why there are no CID-name based blockers. That could really
help, especially with pattern matching. "* TX" could block a lot of
those calls.

That national no-call list was nice - when it still worked.

Yes it was. I remember when that service was started. Almost no junk
calls.

I never stopped getting calls from local businesses in spite of being
on the national and Florida no call list. Reporting them did not seem
to do much. I am not sure what loophole they exploited but I never
heard about any of them getting it trouble.
I was pretty aggressive about trying to fill out that form but the
real scammers must have key words they look for because no matter how
long you talk or how you work around the questions they figure out you
are harvesting the information you need and they hang up.

Would have saved your time if you just told them **** you and hung up.

But that wouldn't let you dob them in to the FTC.

It is a waste of time anyway.