Google tells us this:

"The percentage of hourly paid workers earning the prevailing federal
minimum wage or less declined from 2.7 percent in 2016 to 2.3 percent in
2017. This remains well below the percentage of 13.4 recorded in 1979,
when data were first collected on a regular basis."

So, what's all the noise about?

On Saturday, February 27, 2021 at 9:24:17 AM UTC-5, Frank wrote:
Google tells us this:

"The percentage of hourly paid workers earning the prevailing federal
minimum wage or less declined from 2.7 percent in 2016 to 2.3 percent in
2017. This remains well below the percentage of 13.4 recorded in 1979,
when data were first collected on a regular basis."

So, what's all the noise about?

How many people are making a nickel over minimum wage? Or
a dollar over minimum wage?

Cindy Hamilton

" writes:
On Saturday, February 27, 2021 at 9:24:17 AM UTC-5, Frank wrote:
Google tells us this:

"The percentage of hourly paid workers earning the prevailing federal
minimum wage or less declined from 2.7 percent in 2016 to 2.3 percent in
2017. This remains well below the percentage of 13.4 recorded in 1979,
when data were first collected on a regular basis."

So, what's all the noise about?

How many people are making a nickel over minimum wage? Or
a dollar over minimum wage?

Or are making minimum wage but only part-time.

On Sat, 27 Feb 2021 16:44:52 GMT, (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:

" writes:
On Saturday, February 27, 2021 at 9:24:17 AM UTC-5, Frank wrote:
Google tells us this:

"The percentage of hourly paid workers earning the prevailing federal
minimum wage or less declined from 2.7 percent in 2016 to 2.3 percent in
2017. This remains well below the percentage of 13.4 recorded in 1979,
when data were first collected on a regular basis."

So, what's all the noise about?

How many people are making a nickel over minimum wage? Or
a dollar over minimum wage?

Or are making minimum wage but only part-time.

It didn't say they excluded part time but Ed has a point. A lot of
states have a higher minimum wage so they will not be in Frank's stat.

That might actually be a better way to deal with it anyway. The cost
of living varies widely across the country. One size does not fit all.
Even the federal civil service salary schedule adjusts for cost of
living, up to 41% higher in the Bay area of California.
Maybe they should use that same adjustment to the minimum wage if the
feds really want to be doing this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Schedule_(US_civil_service_pay_scale)#Loca lity_adjustment

On 2/27/2021 9:24 AM, Frank wrote:
Google tells us this:

"The percentage of hourly paid workers earning the prevailing federal
minimum wage or less declined from 2.7 percent in 2016 to 2.3 percent in
2017. This remains well below the percentage of 13.4 recorded in 1979,
when data were first collected on a regular basis."

So, what's all the noise about?

The noise is mostly for the states still using the federal minimum of
$7.25 from 2009 and no adjustment. The reason it changed is that many
states saw the problem and did something about it, some better than
others.

How many workers do you know that would be happy in their job getting
the same was they got in 2009?

On Sat, 27 Feb 2021 11:18:51 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 2/27/2021 9:24 AM, Frank wrote:
Google tells us this:

"The percentage of hourly paid workers earning the prevailing federal
minimum wage or less declined from 2.7 percent in 2016 to 2.3 percent in
2017. This remains well below the percentage of 13.4 recorded in 1979,
when data were first collected on a regular basis."

So, what's all the noise about?

The noise is mostly for the states still using the federal minimum of
$7.25 from 2009 and no adjustment. The reason it changed is that many
states saw the problem and did something about it, some better than
others.

How many workers do you know that would be happy in their job getting
the same was they got in 2009?

My pension hasn't gone up since 2009. ****'m.

On 2/27/2021 1:52 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 27 Feb 2021 11:18:51 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 2/27/2021 9:24 AM, Frank wrote:
Google tells us this:

"The percentage of hourly paid workers earning the prevailing federal
minimum wage or less declined from 2.7 percent in 2016 to 2.3 percent in
2017. This remains well below the percentage of 13.4 recorded in 1979,
when data were first collected on a regular basis."

So, what's all the noise about?

The noise is mostly for the states still using the federal minimum of
$7.25 from 2009 and no adjustment. The reason it changed is that many
states saw the problem and did something about it, some better than
others.

How many workers do you know that would be happy in their job getting
the same was they got in 2009?

My pension hasn't gone up since 2009. ****'m.

Hmmmnm, mine has. So has SS, trivial as it was.

On Sat, 27 Feb 2021 14:11:03 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 2/27/2021 1:52 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 27 Feb 2021 11:18:51 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 2/27/2021 9:24 AM, Frank wrote:
Google tells us this:

"The percentage of hourly paid workers earning the prevailing federal
minimum wage or less declined from 2.7 percent in 2016 to 2.3 percent in
2017. This remains well below the percentage of 13.4 recorded in 1979,
when data were first collected on a regular basis."

So, what's all the noise about?

The noise is mostly for the states still using the federal minimum of
$7.25 from 2009 and no adjustment. The reason it changed is that many
states saw the problem and did something about it, some better than
others.

How many workers do you know that would be happy in their job getting
the same was they got in 2009?

My pension hasn't gone up since 2009. ****'m.

Hmmmnm, mine has. So has SS, trivial as it was.

SS barely covered the hike in Part B and your pension must be
government or union.

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On Sat, 27 Feb 2021 14:11:03 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 2/27/2021 1:52 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 27 Feb 2021 11:18:51 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 2/27/2021 9:24 AM, Frank wrote:
Google tells us this:

"The percentage of hourly paid workers earning the prevailing federal
minimum wage or less declined from 2.7 percent in 2016 to 2.3 percent
in
2017. This remains well below the percentage of 13.4 recorded in 1979,
when data were first collected on a regular basis."

So, what's all the noise about?

The noise is mostly for the states still using the federal minimum of
$7.25 from 2009 and no adjustment. The reason it changed is that many
states saw the problem and did something about it, some better than
others.

How many workers do you know that would be happy in their job getting
the same was they got in 2009?

My pension hasn't gone up since 2009. ****'m.

Hmmmnm, mine has. So has SS, trivial as it was.

SS barely covered the hike in Part B and your pension must be
government or union.

Not necessarily, they can be invested in what does better than inflation.

In article ,
says...

How many workers do you know that would be happy in their job getting
the same was they got in 2009?

My pension hasn't gone up since 2009. ****'m.

Hmmmnm, mine has. So has SS, trivial as it was.

SS barely covered the hike in Part B and your pension must be
government or union.



From what little I know about pensions, many from companies do not go up
after you start them. Mine does not go up from the starting ammount.

Maybe some of the government ones do ?

The SS has not kept up at all with the cost of living. Each year they
change the rules as to what they use to compute the cost of living.
Just glad I put a fair ammount in the 401k type retirement. Many
companies do not even have pensons. This past year my IRA made as much
as I would have made before taxes in over 2 working years. Had my SS
money gone in to the same IRA plan I would get about twice as much as
the SS pays.