http://dhhs.ne.gov/Pages/COVID-19-Vaccine-Information.aspx#SectionLink3
There's a timeline about halfway down the page.
It looks like the powers that be hope to have vaccinations completed by October. They hope to
be done with the geezer crowd by about mid May.

On 2/3/2021 2:18 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
http://dhhs.ne.gov/Pages/COVID-19-Vaccine-Information.aspx#SectionLink3
There's a timeline about halfway down the page.
It looks like the powers that be hope to have vaccinations completed by October. They hope to
be done with the geezer crowd by about mid May.


That would sound about right. I love the people that say "I had my name
on the list for twp weeks and no one called yet".

In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 3 Feb 2021 11:18:08 -0800 (PST), Dean
Hoffman wrote:

http://dhhs.ne.gov/Pages/COVID-19-Vaccine-Information.aspx#SectionLink3
There's a timeline about halfway down the page.
It looks like the powers that be hope to have vaccinations completed by October. They hope to
be done with the geezer crowd by about mid May.

Very interesting. Another state that put +65 in 1b (One b, not the
abbreviation for pound***). I should buy a Nebraska ID and spend a
month there, and I'll be vaccinated. A lot of snow there now?

Maryland drugstores are gearing up to vaccinate, and one supermarket**
is already taking reservations (at its pharmacy department, which I
think qualifies as a drugstore. They seem to sell and do everything a
drugstore does.). It makes a list of branches starting with the one
closest to me and lets me pick, but then alas, it says all appointments
are taken. That's fine. It's because they have no vaccine and no
appointments yet. Maybe in one week.

I already have a request in with the county but the news said the number
of qualified drugstores is 6 times the current number of places that are
vaccinating. Still, it shoudln't be this complicated. There should be
one registration website/phone number, and drugstores should be added
automatically when they come on line. There didn't need to be 66
different webpages either, anymore than having each jurisdiction write
its same tracking app, just one good one. I believe in federalism too,
but i'm sure some of these don't work well, others were awarded to the
state senate head's nephew, etc.


I can't figure out if Biden did something different or if this drugstore
part would have happened at the same speed under trump. If anyone
replies, try to remove ideology and stick to facts, although I think
people see facts based on who they like.


**It's SAFEWAY, but it links to an ALBERTSON page, which displays about
10 logos, so if there is an ALBERTSON-owned chain near you, this is
probably an option.

The one thing drugstores and supermarkets haven't had that clinics have
is enough seats to wait in afterward, but I'm sure they can find a few
chairs and make people who want to buy what's behind the patients
waiting either wait themselves of lean over them. ;-)

***My first typewriter had no 1 key. You were supposed to use an l.
yeah there's a teeny difference but if they had removed the serifs from
the 1 when they invented computers, it would be a lot easier to tell.
2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 don't have serifs, why does one have to?

On Wednesday, February 3, 2021 at 2:18:12 PM UTC-5, wrote:
http://dhhs.ne.gov/Pages/COVID-19-Vaccine-Information.aspx#SectionLink3
There's a timeline about halfway down the page.
It looks like the powers that be hope to have vaccinations completed by October. They hope to
be done with the geezer crowd by about mid May.

But elsewhere I see most officials giving rosier forecasts. And lots of stupidity, eg
Cuomo and deBlasio moving immediately down to 65 and then whining about there
being shortages of vaccine, so they have to close facilities. From what I see, the
bottom line is Biden says they are going to increase the run rate to ~10 mil doses a
week, it's a little less than that now. It takes two, so that's 5 mil people a week.
That would do 70 mil by mid May. To do everyone would take over a year.
J&J will be helping that, but no idea what their capacity is.

I also just read that a study in Israel that looked at 700K people, concluded that after
one dose they were 90% protected. We need to look at that here, if it's valid then we
should do what the UK is doing, forget the second dose, just give the first. Also from
that study, for two weeks after getting the shot, there was no increase in immunity.
The third week it started to rise and achieved it's final value of 90% at the end of
that week, there was no further increase after that.

A shocking thing here is that no one is talking about why we can't produce more.
Why are they not building new lines to make it? Why are we not even hearing
anything about any effort at all? I did hear that in Europe the govts there are
working with Pfizer to get other pharma companies to produce their product.
WTF is going on here?

On Thursday, February 4, 2021 at 1:33:39 AM UTC-5, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 3 Feb 2021 11:18:08 -0800 (PST), Dean
Hoffman wrote:

http://dhhs.ne.gov/Pages/COVID-19-Vaccine-Information.aspx#SectionLink3
There's a timeline about halfway down the page.
It looks like the powers that be hope to have vaccinations completed by October. They hope to
be done with the geezer crowd by about mid May.
Very interesting. Another state that put +65 in 1b (One b, not the
abbreviation for pound***). I should buy a Nebraska ID and spend a
month there, and I'll be vaccinated. A lot of snow there now?

Maryland drugstores are gearing up to vaccinate, and one supermarket**
is already taking reservations (at its pharmacy department, which I
think qualifies as a drugstore. They seem to sell and do everything a
drugstore does.). It makes a list of branches starting with the one
closest to me and lets me pick, but then alas, it says all appointments
are taken. That's fine. It's because they have no vaccine and no
appointments yet. Maybe in one week.

I already have a request in with the county but the news said the number
of qualified drugstores is 6 times the current number of places that are
vaccinating. Still, it shoudln't be this complicated. There should be
one registration website/phone number, and drugstores should be added
automatically when they come on line. There didn't need to be 66
different webpages either, anymore than having each jurisdiction write
its same tracking app, just one good one. I believe in federalism too,
but i'm sure some of these don't work well, others were awarded to the
state senate head's nephew, etc.


I can't figure out if Biden did something different or if this drugstore
part would have happened at the same speed under trump. If anyone
replies, try to remove ideology and stick to facts, although I think
people see facts based on who they like.


**It's SAFEWAY, but it links to an ALBERTSON page, which displays about
10 logos, so if there is an ALBERTSON-owned chain near you, this is
probably an option.

The one thing drugstores and supermarkets haven't had that clinics have
is enough seats to wait in afterward, but I'm sure they can find a few
chairs and make people who want to buy what's behind the patients
waiting either wait themselves of lean over them. ;-)


From what I see adding drug stores just increases the custer f***. There
isn't enough vaccine to keep the current sites going, so diverting part to
other channels just shuts down the places that are best equipped. What
resources will they have to deal with bad reactions as opposed to doing it
in larger, probably better equipped facilities?

Same nonsense is going on here in NJ. There is a state registration website,
but it does not explain what it feeds. Even worse, the state website also has
a list of 200+ places that are giving the vaccine, with web links. The state has
6 mega sites, those are on the list and only one has the state registration link.
The other 5 have their own. So, what does the state registration do?

I just tried the state mega site in AC. By some miracle, I went right into the que
for an appointment. It said there were 950 slots available. It took 11 mins for
it to go to zero, I didn't get a slot. On the AC website it says that it doesn't
matter when you get in the que, they pull randomly. But when you get in the
que, it says that they pull in numerical order. A week ago I lucked out and
saw that they would be taking appointments at 3PM. I tried at about 2:45PM,
not knowing there was a que, there were 17K in the que already. When did
they actually open the que? Who knows, it wasn't open around 10AM when
I found out they would take appointments at 3PM. Today, they must have
started the process around 8AM, but how is anyone supposed to know?
I'm registered with the state, this is a state mega site. I also registered
with this mega site at their own website. So WTF is going on? Are they
pulling people from the state list? From their own list? Only taking people
that get lucky and find the que open? Some from all? Adding drug stores
to this just increases the disorder when you don't have anywhere near
enough vaccine.

On 04/02/2021 14:12, trader_4 wrote:
On Thursday, February 4, 2021 at 1:33:39 AM UTC-5, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 3 Feb 2021 11:18:08 -0800 (PST), Dean
Hoffman wrote:

http://dhhs.ne.gov/Pages/COVID-19-Vaccine-Information.aspx#SectionLink3
There's a timeline about halfway down the page.
It looks like the powers that be hope to have vaccinations completed by October. They hope to
be done with the geezer crowd by about mid May.
Very interesting. Another state that put +65 in 1b (One b, not the
abbreviation for pound***). I should buy a Nebraska ID and spend a
month there, and I'll be vaccinated. A lot of snow there now?

Maryland drugstores are gearing up to vaccinate, and one supermarket**
is already taking reservations (at its pharmacy department, which I
think qualifies as a drugstore. They seem to sell and do everything a
drugstore does.). It makes a list of branches starting with the one
closest to me and lets me pick, but then alas, it says all appointments
are taken. That's fine. It's because they have no vaccine and no
appointments yet. Maybe in one week.

I already have a request in with the county but the news said the number
of qualified drugstores is 6 times the current number of places that are
vaccinating. Still, it shoudln't be this complicated. There should be
one registration website/phone number, and drugstores should be added
automatically when they come on line. There didn't need to be 66
different webpages either, anymore than having each jurisdiction write
its same tracking app, just one good one. I believe in federalism too,
but i'm sure some of these don't work well, others were awarded to the
state senate head's nephew, etc.


I can't figure out if Biden did something different or if this drugstore
part would have happened at the same speed under trump. If anyone
replies, try to remove ideology and stick to facts, although I think
people see facts based on who they like.


**It's SAFEWAY, but it links to an ALBERTSON page, which displays about
10 logos, so if there is an ALBERTSON-owned chain near you, this is
probably an option.

The one thing drugstores and supermarkets haven't had that clinics have
is enough seats to wait in afterward, but I'm sure they can find a few
chairs and make people who want to buy what's behind the patients
waiting either wait themselves of lean over them. ;-)


From what I see adding drug stores just increases the custer f***. There
isn't enough vaccine to keep the current sites going, so diverting part to
other channels just shuts down the places that are best equipped. What
resources will they have to deal with bad reactions as opposed to doing it
in larger, probably better equipped facilities?

Same nonsense is going on here in NJ. There is a state registration website,
but it does not explain what it feeds. Even worse, the state website also has
a list of 200+ places that are giving the vaccine, with web links. The state has
6 mega sites, those are on the list and only one has the state registration link.
The other 5 have their own. So, what does the state registration do?

I just tried the state mega site in AC. By some miracle, I went right into the que
for an appointment. It said there were 950 slots available. It took 11 mins for
it to go to zero, I didn't get a slot. On the AC website it says that it doesn't
matter when you get in the que, they pull randomly. But when you get in the
que, it says that they pull in numerical order. A week ago I lucked out and
saw that they would be taking appointments at 3PM. I tried at about 2:45PM,
not knowing there was a que, there were 17K in the que already. When did
they actually open the que? Who knows, it wasn't open around 10AM when
I found out they would take appointments at 3PM. Today, they must have
started the process around 8AM, but how is anyone supposed to know?
I'm registered with the state, this is a state mega site. I also registered
with this mega site at their own website. So WTF is going on? Are they
pulling people from the state list? From their own list? Only taking people
that get lucky and find the que open? Some from all? Adding drug stores
to this just increases the disorder when you don't have anywhere near
enough vaccine.



I just got a letter today from the NHS telling me to book an appointment
to get my first jab at my local GPs surgery.
They've finished doing all of the over 80s etc.
They are working down the age ranges and vulnerable folk. We are down to
the over 70s etc now. I am 72. I will get an exact time slot allocated,
so no waiting in a queue.

On Thursday, February 4, 2021 at 9:39:27 AM UTC-5, Bod wrote:
On 04/02/2021 14:12, trader_4 wrote:
On Thursday, February 4, 2021 at 1:33:39 AM UTC-5, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 3 Feb 2021 11:18:08 -0800 (PST), Dean
Hoffman wrote:

http://dhhs.ne.gov/Pages/COVID-19-Vaccine-Information.aspx#SectionLink3
There's a timeline about halfway down the page.
It looks like the powers that be hope to have vaccinations completed by October. They hope to
be done with the geezer crowd by about mid May.
Very interesting. Another state that put +65 in 1b (One b, not the
abbreviation for pound***). I should buy a Nebraska ID and spend a
month there, and I'll be vaccinated. A lot of snow there now?

Maryland drugstores are gearing up to vaccinate, and one supermarket**
is already taking reservations (at its pharmacy department, which I
think qualifies as a drugstore. They seem to sell and do everything a
drugstore does.). It makes a list of branches starting with the one
closest to me and lets me pick, but then alas, it says all appointments
are taken. That's fine. It's because they have no vaccine and no
appointments yet. Maybe in one week.

I already have a request in with the county but the news said the number
of qualified drugstores is 6 times the current number of places that are
vaccinating. Still, it shoudln't be this complicated. There should be
one registration website/phone number, and drugstores should be added
automatically when they come on line. There didn't need to be 66
different webpages either, anymore than having each jurisdiction write
its same tracking app, just one good one. I believe in federalism too,
but i'm sure some of these don't work well, others were awarded to the
state senate head's nephew, etc.


I can't figure out if Biden did something different or if this drugstore
part would have happened at the same speed under trump. If anyone
replies, try to remove ideology and stick to facts, although I think
people see facts based on who they like.


**It's SAFEWAY, but it links to an ALBERTSON page, which displays about
10 logos, so if there is an ALBERTSON-owned chain near you, this is
probably an option.

The one thing drugstores and supermarkets haven't had that clinics have
is enough seats to wait in afterward, but I'm sure they can find a few
chairs and make people who want to buy what's behind the patients
waiting either wait themselves of lean over them. ;-)


From what I see adding drug stores just increases the custer f***. There
isn't enough vaccine to keep the current sites going, so diverting part to
other channels just shuts down the places that are best equipped. What
resources will they have to deal with bad reactions as opposed to doing it
in larger, probably better equipped facilities?

Same nonsense is going on here in NJ. There is a state registration website,
but it does not explain what it feeds. Even worse, the state website also has
a list of 200+ places that are giving the vaccine, with web links. The state has
6 mega sites, those are on the list and only one has the state registration link.
The other 5 have their own. So, what does the state registration do?

I just tried the state mega site in AC. By some miracle, I went right into the que
for an appointment. It said there were 950 slots available. It took 11 mins for
it to go to zero, I didn't get a slot. On the AC website it says that it doesn't
matter when you get in the que, they pull randomly. But when you get in the
que, it says that they pull in numerical order. A week ago I lucked out and
saw that they would be taking appointments at 3PM. I tried at about 2:45PM,
not knowing there was a que, there were 17K in the que already. When did
they actually open the que? Who knows, it wasn't open around 10AM when
I found out they would take appointments at 3PM. Today, they must have
started the process around 8AM, but how is anyone supposed to know?
I'm registered with the state, this is a state mega site. I also registered
with this mega site at their own website. So WTF is going on? Are they
pulling people from the state list? From their own list? Only taking people
that get lucky and find the que open? Some from all? Adding drug stores
to this just increases the disorder when you don't have anywhere near
enough vaccine.



I just got a letter today from the NHS telling me to book an appointment
to get my first jab at my local GPs surgery.
They've finished doing all of the over 80s etc.
They are working down the age ranges and vulnerable folk. We are down to
the over 70s etc now. I am 72. I will get an exact time slot allocated,
so no waiting in a queue.

That sounds too logical. Here not only did they move right down to 65,
but they also included anyone with pre-existing risk conditions. No agreeement
between states, organizations what those are. One place obesity is on the list,
another just being overweight is sufficient. Smoking seems to be on all the
lists. And it's all on the honor system, no proof required. You can imagine how
that's going. Where just being overweight gets you vaccinated ahead of others,
probably 80% of the population could get the vaccine now, while following the
rules.

On 04/02/2021 17:13, trader_4 wrote:
On Thursday, February 4, 2021 at 9:39:27 AM UTC-5, Bod wrote:
On 04/02/2021 14:12, trader_4 wrote:
On Thursday, February 4, 2021 at 1:33:39 AM UTC-5, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 3 Feb 2021 11:18:08 -0800 (PST), Dean
Hoffman wrote:

http://dhhs.ne.gov/Pages/COVID-19-Vaccine-Information.aspx#SectionLink3
There's a timeline about halfway down the page.
It looks like the powers that be hope to have vaccinations completed by October. They hope to
be done with the geezer crowd by about mid May.
Very interesting. Another state that put +65 in 1b (One b, not the
abbreviation for pound***). I should buy a Nebraska ID and spend a
month there, and I'll be vaccinated. A lot of snow there now?

Maryland drugstores are gearing up to vaccinate, and one supermarket**
is already taking reservations (at its pharmacy department, which I
think qualifies as a drugstore. They seem to sell and do everything a
drugstore does.). It makes a list of branches starting with the one
closest to me and lets me pick, but then alas, it says all appointments
are taken. That's fine. It's because they have no vaccine and no
appointments yet. Maybe in one week.

I already have a request in with the county but the news said the number
of qualified drugstores is 6 times the current number of places that are
vaccinating. Still, it shoudln't be this complicated. There should be
one registration website/phone number, and drugstores should be added
automatically when they come on line. There didn't need to be 66
different webpages either, anymore than having each jurisdiction write
its same tracking app, just one good one. I believe in federalism too,
but i'm sure some of these don't work well, others were awarded to the
state senate head's nephew, etc.


I can't figure out if Biden did something different or if this drugstore
part would have happened at the same speed under trump. If anyone
replies, try to remove ideology and stick to facts, although I think
people see facts based on who they like.


**It's SAFEWAY, but it links to an ALBERTSON page, which displays about
10 logos, so if there is an ALBERTSON-owned chain near you, this is
probably an option.

The one thing drugstores and supermarkets haven't had that clinics have
is enough seats to wait in afterward, but I'm sure they can find a few
chairs and make people who want to buy what's behind the patients
waiting either wait themselves of lean over them. ;-)


From what I see adding drug stores just increases the custer f***. There
isn't enough vaccine to keep the current sites going, so diverting part to
other channels just shuts down the places that are best equipped. What
resources will they have to deal with bad reactions as opposed to doing it
in larger, probably better equipped facilities?

Same nonsense is going on here in NJ. There is a state registration website,
but it does not explain what it feeds. Even worse, the state website also has
a list of 200+ places that are giving the vaccine, with web links. The state has
6 mega sites, those are on the list and only one has the state registration link.
The other 5 have their own. So, what does the state registration do?

I just tried the state mega site in AC. By some miracle, I went right into the que
for an appointment. It said there were 950 slots available. It took 11 mins for
it to go to zero, I didn't get a slot. On the AC website it says that it doesn't
matter when you get in the que, they pull randomly. But when you get in the
que, it says that they pull in numerical order. A week ago I lucked out and
saw that they would be taking appointments at 3PM. I tried at about 2:45PM,
not knowing there was a que, there were 17K in the que already. When did
they actually open the que? Who knows, it wasn't open around 10AM when
I found out they would take appointments at 3PM. Today, they must have
started the process around 8AM, but how is anyone supposed to know?
I'm registered with the state, this is a state mega site. I also registered
with this mega site at their own website. So WTF is going on? Are they
pulling people from the state list? From their own list? Only taking people
that get lucky and find the que open? Some from all? Adding drug stores
to this just increases the disorder when you don't have anywhere near
enough vaccine.



I just got a letter today from the NHS telling me to book an appointment
to get my first jab at my local GPs surgery.
They've finished doing all of the over 80s etc.
They are working down the age ranges and vulnerable folk. We are down to
the over 70s etc now. I am 72. I will get an exact time slot allocated,
so no waiting in a queue.

That sounds too logical. Here not only did they move right down to 65,
but they also included anyone with pre-existing risk conditions. No agreeement
between states, organizations what those are. One place obesity is on the list,
another just being overweight is sufficient. Smoking seems to be on all the
lists. And it's all on the honor system, no proof required. You can imagine how
that's going. Where just being overweight gets you vaccinated ahead of others,
probably 80% of the population could get the vaccine now, while following the
rules.

Yes that does seem illogical.

On Thursday, February 4, 2021 at 12:25:36 PM UTC-5, Bod wrote:
On 04/02/2021 17:13, trader_4 wrote:
On Thursday, February 4, 2021 at 9:39:27 AM UTC-5, Bod wrote:
On 04/02/2021 14:12, trader_4 wrote:
On Thursday, February 4, 2021 at 1:33:39 AM UTC-5, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 3 Feb 2021 11:18:08 -0800 (PST), Dean
Hoffman wrote:

http://dhhs.ne.gov/Pages/COVID-19-Vaccine-Information.aspx#SectionLink3
There's a timeline about halfway down the page.
It looks like the powers that be hope to have vaccinations completed by October. They hope to
be done with the geezer crowd by about mid May.
Very interesting. Another state that put +65 in 1b (One b, not the
abbreviation for pound***). I should buy a Nebraska ID and spend a
month there, and I'll be vaccinated. A lot of snow there now?

Maryland drugstores are gearing up to vaccinate, and one supermarket**
is already taking reservations (at its pharmacy department, which I
think qualifies as a drugstore. They seem to sell and do everything a
drugstore does.). It makes a list of branches starting with the one
closest to me and lets me pick, but then alas, it says all appointments
are taken. That's fine. It's because they have no vaccine and no
appointments yet. Maybe in one week.

I already have a request in with the county but the news said the number
of qualified drugstores is 6 times the current number of places that are
vaccinating. Still, it shoudln't be this complicated. There should be
one registration website/phone number, and drugstores should be added
automatically when they come on line. There didn't need to be 66
different webpages either, anymore than having each jurisdiction write
its same tracking app, just one good one. I believe in federalism too,
but i'm sure some of these don't work well, others were awarded to the
state senate head's nephew, etc.


I can't figure out if Biden did something different or if this drugstore
part would have happened at the same speed under trump. If anyone
replies, try to remove ideology and stick to facts, although I think
people see facts based on who they like.


**It's SAFEWAY, but it links to an ALBERTSON page, which displays about
10 logos, so if there is an ALBERTSON-owned chain near you, this is
probably an option.

The one thing drugstores and supermarkets haven't had that clinics have
is enough seats to wait in afterward, but I'm sure they can find a few
chairs and make people who want to buy what's behind the patients
waiting either wait themselves of lean over them. ;-)


From what I see adding drug stores just increases the custer f***. There
isn't enough vaccine to keep the current sites going, so diverting part to
other channels just shuts down the places that are best equipped. What
resources will they have to deal with bad reactions as opposed to doing it
in larger, probably better equipped facilities?

Same nonsense is going on here in NJ. There is a state registration website,
but it does not explain what it feeds. Even worse, the state website also has
a list of 200+ places that are giving the vaccine, with web links. The state has
6 mega sites, those are on the list and only one has the state registration link.
The other 5 have their own. So, what does the state registration do?

I just tried the state mega site in AC. By some miracle, I went right into the que
for an appointment. It said there were 950 slots available. It took 11 mins for
it to go to zero, I didn't get a slot. On the AC website it says that it doesn't
matter when you get in the que, they pull randomly. But when you get in the
que, it says that they pull in numerical order. A week ago I lucked out and
saw that they would be taking appointments at 3PM. I tried at about 2:45PM,
not knowing there was a que, there were 17K in the que already. When did
they actually open the que? Who knows, it wasn't open around 10AM when
I found out they would take appointments at 3PM. Today, they must have
started the process around 8AM, but how is anyone supposed to know?
I'm registered with the state, this is a state mega site. I also registered
with this mega site at their own website. So WTF is going on? Are they
pulling people from the state list? From their own list? Only taking people
that get lucky and find the que open? Some from all? Adding drug stores
to this just increases the disorder when you don't have anywhere near
enough vaccine.



I just got a letter today from the NHS telling me to book an appointment
to get my first jab at my local GPs surgery.
They've finished doing all of the over 80s etc.
They are working down the age ranges and vulnerable folk. We are down to
the over 70s etc now. I am 72. I will get an exact time slot allocated,
so no waiting in a queue.

That sounds too logical. Here not only did they move right down to 65,
but they also included anyone with pre-existing risk conditions. No agreeement
between states, organizations what those are. One place obesity is on the list,
another just being overweight is sufficient. Smoking seems to be on all the
lists. And it's all on the honor system, no proof required. You can imagine how
that's going. Where just being overweight gets you vaccinated ahead of others,
probably 80% of the population could get the vaccine now, while following the
rules.

Yes that does seem illogical.

Here is more that's illogical . For 42% of Republicans the vaccine timeline is never.

https://nypost.com/2021/02/03/1-in-4...-vaccine-poll/

I know one. Instead of believing in science and facts, they believe in Qanon and crazy lies.

On 04/02/2021 17:39, trader_4 wrote:
On Thursday, February 4, 2021 at 12:25:36 PM UTC-5, Bod wrote:
On 04/02/2021 17:13, trader_4 wrote:
On Thursday, February 4, 2021 at 9:39:27 AM UTC-5, Bod wrote:
On 04/02/2021 14:12, trader_4 wrote:
On Thursday, February 4, 2021 at 1:33:39 AM UTC-5, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 3 Feb 2021 11:18:08 -0800 (PST), Dean
Hoffman wrote:

http://dhhs.ne.gov/Pages/COVID-19-Vaccine-Information.aspx#SectionLink3
There's a timeline about halfway down the page.
It looks like the powers that be hope to have vaccinations completed by October. They hope to
be done with the geezer crowd by about mid May.
Very interesting. Another state that put +65 in 1b (One b, not the
abbreviation for pound***). I should buy a Nebraska ID and spend a
month there, and I'll be vaccinated. A lot of snow there now?

Maryland drugstores are gearing up to vaccinate, and one supermarket**
is already taking reservations (at its pharmacy department, which I
think qualifies as a drugstore. They seem to sell and do everything a
drugstore does.). It makes a list of branches starting with the one
closest to me and lets me pick, but then alas, it says all appointments
are taken. That's fine. It's because they have no vaccine and no
appointments yet. Maybe in one week.

I already have a request in with the county but the news said the number
of qualified drugstores is 6 times the current number of places that are
vaccinating. Still, it shoudln't be this complicated. There should be
one registration website/phone number, and drugstores should be added
automatically when they come on line. There didn't need to be 66
different webpages either, anymore than having each jurisdiction write
its same tracking app, just one good one. I believe in federalism too,
but i'm sure some of these don't work well, others were awarded to the
state senate head's nephew, etc.


I can't figure out if Biden did something different or if this drugstore
part would have happened at the same speed under trump. If anyone
replies, try to remove ideology and stick to facts, although I think
people see facts based on who they like.


**It's SAFEWAY, but it links to an ALBERTSON page, which displays about
10 logos, so if there is an ALBERTSON-owned chain near you, this is
probably an option.

The one thing drugstores and supermarkets haven't had that clinics have
is enough seats to wait in afterward, but I'm sure they can find a few
chairs and make people who want to buy what's behind the patients
waiting either wait themselves of lean over them. ;-)


From what I see adding drug stores just increases the custer f***. There
isn't enough vaccine to keep the current sites going, so diverting part to
other channels just shuts down the places that are best equipped. What
resources will they have to deal with bad reactions as opposed to doing it
in larger, probably better equipped facilities?

Same nonsense is going on here in NJ. There is a state registration website,
but it does not explain what it feeds. Even worse, the state website also has
a list of 200+ places that are giving the vaccine, with web links. The state has
6 mega sites, those are on the list and only one has the state registration link.
The other 5 have their own. So, what does the state registration do?

I just tried the state mega site in AC. By some miracle, I went right into the que
for an appointment. It said there were 950 slots available. It took 11 mins for
it to go to zero, I didn't get a slot. On the AC website it says that it doesn't
matter when you get in the que, they pull randomly. But when you get in the
que, it says that they pull in numerical order. A week ago I lucked out and
saw that they would be taking appointments at 3PM. I tried at about 2:45PM,
not knowing there was a que, there were 17K in the que already. When did
they actually open the que? Who knows, it wasn't open around 10AM when
I found out they would take appointments at 3PM. Today, they must have
started the process around 8AM, but how is anyone supposed to know?
I'm registered with the state, this is a state mega site. I also registered
with this mega site at their own website. So WTF is going on? Are they
pulling people from the state list? From their own list? Only taking people
that get lucky and find the que open? Some from all? Adding drug stores
to this just increases the disorder when you don't have anywhere near
enough vaccine.



I just got a letter today from the NHS telling me to book an appointment
to get my first jab at my local GPs surgery.
They've finished doing all of the over 80s etc.
They are working down the age ranges and vulnerable folk. We are down to
the over 70s etc now. I am 72. I will get an exact time slot allocated,
so no waiting in a queue.

That sounds too logical. Here not only did they move right down to 65,
but they also included anyone with pre-existing risk conditions. No agreeement
between states, organizations what those are. One place obesity is on the list,
another just being overweight is sufficient. Smoking seems to be on all the
lists. And it's all on the honor system, no proof required. You can imagine how
that's going. Where just being overweight gets you vaccinated ahead of others,
probably 80% of the population could get the vaccine now, while following the
rules.

Yes that does seem illogical.

Here is more that's illogical . For 42% of Republicans the vaccine timeline is never.

https://nypost.com/2021/02/03/1-in-4...-vaccine-poll/

I know one. Instead of believing in science and facts, they believe in Qanon and crazy lies.


Blimey! I never knew it was that high.

"trader_4" wrote in message
...
On Wednesday, February 3, 2021 at 2:18:12 PM UTC-5,
wrote:
http://dhhs.ne.gov/Pages/COVID-19-Vaccine-Information.aspx#SectionLink3
There's a timeline about halfway down the page.
It looks like the powers that be hope to have vaccinations completed by
October. They hope to
be done with the geezer crowd by about mid May.

But elsewhere I see most officials giving rosier forecasts. And lots of
stupidity, eg
Cuomo and deBlasio moving immediately down to 65 and then whining about
there
being shortages of vaccine, so they have to close facilities. From what
I see, the
bottom line is Biden says they are going to increase the run rate to ~10
mil doses a
week, it's a little less than that now. It takes two, so that's 5 mil
people a week.
That would do 70 mil by mid May. To do everyone would take over a year.
J&J will be helping that, but no idea what their capacity is.

I also just read that a study in Israel that looked at 700K
people, concluded that after one dose they were 90%
protected. We need to look at that here, if it's valid
then we should do what the UK is doing, forget the
second dose, just give the first.

The UK isnt doing that.

Also from that study, for two weeks after getting
the shot, there was no increase in immunity.

That study didnt find that either.

The third week it started to rise and achieved
it's final value of 90% at the end of that week,
there was no further increase after that.

A shocking thing here is that no one is talking
about why we can't produce more. Why are
they not building new lines to make it?

They are.

Why are we not even hearing
anything about any effort at all?

Because you use ****ed information sources.

I did hear that in Europe the govts there are
working with Pfizer to get other pharma companies
to produce their product. WTF is going on here?

More vaccine is being produced than in europe.

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Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

FLUSH the trolling senile asshole's latest troll**** unread

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In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 4 Feb 2021 06:12:31 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:

On Thursday, February 4, 2021 at 1:33:39 AM UTC-5, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 3 Feb 2021 11:18:08 -0800 (PST), Dean
Hoffman wrote:

http://dhhs.ne.gov/Pages/COVID-19-Vaccine-Information.aspx#SectionLink3
There's a timeline about halfway down the page.
It looks like the powers that be hope to have vaccinations completed by October. They hope to
be done with the geezer crowd by about mid May.
Very interesting. Another state that put +65 in 1b (One b, not the
abbreviation for pound***). I should buy a Nebraska ID and spend a
month there, and I'll be vaccinated. A lot of snow there now?

Maryland drugstores are gearing up to vaccinate, and one supermarket**
is already taking reservations (at its pharmacy department, which I
think qualifies as a drugstore. They seem to sell and do everything a
drugstore does.). It makes a list of branches starting with the one
closest to me and lets me pick, but then alas, it says all appointments
are taken. That's fine. It's because they have no vaccine and no
appointments yet. Maybe in one week.

I already have a request in with the county but the news said the number
of qualified drugstores is 6 times the current number of places that are
vaccinating. Still, it shoudln't be this complicated. There should be
one registration website/phone number, and drugstores should be added
automatically when they come on line. There didn't need to be 66
different webpages either, anymore than having each jurisdiction write
its same tracking app, just one good one. I believe in federalism too,
but i'm sure some of these don't work well, others were awarded to the
state senate head's nephew, etc.


I can't figure out if Biden did something different or if this drugstore
part would have happened at the same speed under trump. If anyone
replies, try to remove ideology and stick to facts, although I think
people see facts based on who they like.


**It's SAFEWAY, but it links to an ALBERTSON page, which displays about
10 logos, so if there is an ALBERTSON-owned chain near you, this is
probably an option.

The one thing drugstores and supermarkets haven't had that clinics have
is enough seats to wait in afterward, but I'm sure they can find a few
chairs and make people who want to buy what's behind the patients
waiting either wait themselves of lean over them. ;-)


From what I see adding drug stores just increases the custer f***. There
isn't enough vaccine to keep the current sites going, so diverting part to
other channels just shuts down the places that are best equipped. What
resources will they have to deal with bad reactions as opposed to doing it
in larger, probably better equipped facilities?

On NextDoor I just saw that a community center is going to give shots.
They have a swimming pool, in case someone needs water immersion.

Same nonsense is going on here in NJ. There is a state registration website,
but it does not explain what it feeds. Even worse, the state website also has
a list of 200+ places that are giving the vaccine, with web links. The state has
6 mega sites, those are on the list and only one has the state registration link.
The other 5 have their own. So, what does the state registration do?

I just tried the state mega site in AC. By some miracle, I went right into the que
for an appointment. It said there were 950 slots available. It took 11 mins for
it to go to zero, I didn't get a slot. On the AC website it says that it doesn't
matter when you get in the que, they pull randomly. But when you get in the
que, it says that they pull in numerical order.

LOL


A week ago I lucked out and
saw that they would be taking appointments at 3PM. I tried at about 2:45PM,
not knowing there was a que, there were 17K in the que already. When did
they actually open the que? Who knows, it wasn't open around 10AM when

Dominion voting machine people have preloaded the queue. They have to
have something to do between elections.

I found out they would take appointments at 3PM. Today, they must have
started the process around 8AM, but how is anyone supposed to know?
I'm registered with the state, this is a state mega site. I also registered
with this mega site at their own website. So WTF is going on? Are they

I think I registeed at a second location, but I'm starting to forget
which one it was. Walgreens? I should have made more notes. I'm
confused by the ones I looked at that did not actually take
reservations. I'm glad I don't have to go to work and see people every
day.


pulling people from the state list? From their own list? Only taking people
that get lucky and find the que open? Some from all? Adding drug stores
to this just increases the disorder when you don't have anywhere near
enough vaccine.

Maybe. FWIW, for me personally I like it because I think I'm the least
likely to have bad side effects, they're closer to home, easier to park,
and they're smaller, so if they have appointments for the shot and only
have a couple people waiting for the shot and a couple waiting
afterwards, there won't also be many people in the store. The store is
never very crowded, and it just occurs to me I should make my
apppointment for very late or very early, to avoid people. Hospitals
are better but they are full of people.

In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 4 Feb 2021 09:39:32 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:

On Thursday, February 4, 2021 at 12:25:36 PM UTC-5, Bod wrote:
On 04/02/2021 17:13, trader_4 wrote:
On Thursday, February 4, 2021 at 9:39:27 AM UTC-5, Bod wrote:

...........
I just got a letter today from the NHS telling me to book an appointment
to get my first jab at my local GPs surgery.
They've finished doing all of the over 80s etc.
They are working down the age ranges and vulnerable folk. We are down to
the over 70s etc now. I am 72. I will get an exact time slot allocated,
so no waiting in a queue.

That sounds too logical. Here not only did they move right down to 65,

In Maryland, first was health care workers etc. 1A
Second stage over 75 and iirc some others. 1B
Third stage over 65 and iirc some others. 1C
Next comes stage 2.
But....

but they also included anyone with pre-existing risk conditions. No agreeement

the form for county registration (I still can't believe every county has
its own form. Surely** they have the same form all over the state and
they just change the title at the top, but who knows?) asked "Do you
have any medical issues or underlying conditions?" I said Yes, and
assumed a list would open up or at least a box so I could say what it
was, so they could decide how serious that was and maybe even verify
later if I actually had it. But nothing opened up, it was just yes or
no, no details.

**I appreciate states rights, but I've never heard of county rights.

between states, organizations what those are. One place obesity is on the list,
another just being overweight is sufficient. Smoking seems to be on all the
lists. And it's all on the honor system, no proof required. You can imagine how
that's going. Where just being overweight gets you vaccinated ahead of others,
probably 80% of the population could get the vaccine now, while following the
rules.

Yes that does seem illogical.

Here is more that's illogical . For 42% of Republicans the vaccine timeline is never.

https://nypost.com/2021/02/03/1-in-4...-vaccine-poll/

More for me!

But I think the percentage is going down.

I know one. Instead of believing in science and facts, they believe in Qanon and crazy lies.

On Thu, 4 Feb 2021 05:56:39 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:

On Wednesday, February 3, 2021 at 2:18:12 PM UTC-5, wrote:
http://dhhs.ne.gov/Pages/COVID-19-Vaccine-Information.aspx#SectionLink3
There's a timeline about halfway down the page.
It looks like the powers that be hope to have vaccinations completed by October. They hope to
be done with the geezer crowd by about mid May.

But elsewhere I see most officials giving rosier forecasts. And lots of stupidity, eg
Cuomo and deBlasio moving immediately down to 65 and then whining about there
being shortages of vaccine, so they have to close facilities. From what I see, the
bottom line is Biden says they are going to increase the run rate to ~10 mil doses a
week, it's a little less than that now. It takes two, so that's 5 mil people a week.
That would do 70 mil by mid May. To do everyone would take over a year.
J&J will be helping that, but no idea what their capacity is.

I also just read that a study in Israel that looked at 700K people, concluded that after
one dose they were 90% protected. We need to look at that here, if it's valid then we
should do what the UK is doing, forget the second dose, just give the first. Also from
that study, for two weeks after getting the shot, there was no increase in immunity.
The third week it started to rise and achieved it's final value of 90% at the end of
that week, there was no further increase after that.

A shocking thing here is that no one is talking about why we can't produce more.
Why are they not building new lines to make it? Why are we not even hearing
anything about any effort at all? I did hear that in Europe the govts there are
working with Pfizer to get other pharma companies to produce their product.
WTF is going on here?


The only way they are going to be willing to increase their plants is
if they see a continuing market. Nobody is going to set up a factory
for one run of anything.
Fortunately for the drug companies, I really think this is going to be
an annual thing as new mutations and better vaccines come along. In
that regard, this may be like the flu.
Who knows, this research might even come up with the elusive cure for
another corona virus, the common cold.

On Thu, 4 Feb 2021 06:12:31 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:

From what I see adding drug stores just increases the custer f***. There
isn't enough vaccine to keep the current sites going, so diverting part to
other channels just shuts down the places that are best equipped. What
resources will they have to deal with bad reactions as opposed to doing it
in larger, probably better equipped facilities?

I think they are trying to get infrastructure in place for when there
is going to be a steady supply. The private pharmacies already have a
robust infrastructure for giving a wide array of shots now. This is
just going to be another shot for them as soon as supply catches up
with demand. The government is not really equipped for this. They are
robbing peter to pay paul.

On Thu, 4 Feb 2021 18:00:43 +0000, Bod wrote:

On 04/02/2021 17:39, trader_4 wrote:
On Thursday, February 4, 2021 at 12:25:36 PM UTC-5, Bod wrote:
On 04/02/2021 17:13, trader_4 wrote:
On Thursday, February 4, 2021 at 9:39:27 AM UTC-5, Bod wrote:
On 04/02/2021 14:12, trader_4 wrote:
On Thursday, February 4, 2021 at 1:33:39 AM UTC-5, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 3 Feb 2021 11:18:08 -0800 (PST), Dean
Hoffman wrote:

http://dhhs.ne.gov/Pages/COVID-19-Vaccine-Information.aspx#SectionLink3
There's a timeline about halfway down the page.
It looks like the powers that be hope to have vaccinations completed by October. They hope to
be done with the geezer crowd by about mid May.
Very interesting. Another state that put +65 in 1b (One b, not the
abbreviation for pound***). I should buy a Nebraska ID and spend a
month there, and I'll be vaccinated. A lot of snow there now?

Maryland drugstores are gearing up to vaccinate, and one supermarket**
is already taking reservations (at its pharmacy department, which I
think qualifies as a drugstore. They seem to sell and do everything a
drugstore does.). It makes a list of branches starting with the one
closest to me and lets me pick, but then alas, it says all appointments
are taken. That's fine. It's because they have no vaccine and no
appointments yet. Maybe in one week.

I already have a request in with the county but the news said the number
of qualified drugstores is 6 times the current number of places that are
vaccinating. Still, it shoudln't be this complicated. There should be
one registration website/phone number, and drugstores should be added
automatically when they come on line. There didn't need to be 66
different webpages either, anymore than having each jurisdiction write
its same tracking app, just one good one. I believe in federalism too,
but i'm sure some of these don't work well, others were awarded to the
state senate head's nephew, etc.


I can't figure out if Biden did something different or if this drugstore
part would have happened at the same speed under trump. If anyone
replies, try to remove ideology and stick to facts, although I think
people see facts based on who they like.


**It's SAFEWAY, but it links to an ALBERTSON page, which displays about
10 logos, so if there is an ALBERTSON-owned chain near you, this is
probably an option.

The one thing drugstores and supermarkets haven't had that clinics have
is enough seats to wait in afterward, but I'm sure they can find a few
chairs and make people who want to buy what's behind the patients
waiting either wait themselves of lean over them. ;-)


From what I see adding drug stores just increases the custer f***. There
isn't enough vaccine to keep the current sites going, so diverting part to
other channels just shuts down the places that are best equipped. What
resources will they have to deal with bad reactions as opposed to doing it
in larger, probably better equipped facilities?

Same nonsense is going on here in NJ. There is a state registration website,
but it does not explain what it feeds. Even worse, the state website also has
a list of 200+ places that are giving the vaccine, with web links. The state has
6 mega sites, those are on the list and only one has the state registration link.
The other 5 have their own. So, what does the state registration do?

I just tried the state mega site in AC. By some miracle, I went right into the que
for an appointment. It said there were 950 slots available. It took 11 mins for
it to go to zero, I didn't get a slot. On the AC website it says that it doesn't
matter when you get in the que, they pull randomly. But when you get in the
que, it says that they pull in numerical order. A week ago I lucked out and
saw that they would be taking appointments at 3PM. I tried at about 2:45PM,
not knowing there was a que, there were 17K in the que already. When did
they actually open the que? Who knows, it wasn't open around 10AM when
I found out they would take appointments at 3PM. Today, they must have
started the process around 8AM, but how is anyone supposed to know?
I'm registered with the state, this is a state mega site. I also registered
with this mega site at their own website. So WTF is going on? Are they
pulling people from the state list? From their own list? Only taking people
that get lucky and find the que open? Some from all? Adding drug stores
to this just increases the disorder when you don't have anywhere near
enough vaccine.



I just got a letter today from the NHS telling me to book an appointment
to get my first jab at my local GPs surgery.
They've finished doing all of the over 80s etc.
They are working down the age ranges and vulnerable folk. We are down to
the over 70s etc now. I am 72. I will get an exact time slot allocated,
so no waiting in a queue.

That sounds too logical. Here not only did they move right down to 65,
but they also included anyone with pre-existing risk conditions. No agreeement
between states, organizations what those are. One place obesity is on the list,
another just being overweight is sufficient. Smoking seems to be on all the
lists. And it's all on the honor system, no proof required. You can imagine how
that's going. Where just being overweight gets you vaccinated ahead of others,
probably 80% of the population could get the vaccine now, while following the
rules.

Yes that does seem illogical.

Here is more that's illogical . For 42% of Republicans the vaccine timeline is never.

https://nypost.com/2021/02/03/1-in-4...-vaccine-poll/

I know one. Instead of believing in science and facts, they believe in Qanon and crazy lies.


Blimey! I never knew it was that high.

They seldom get 50% for flu shots and the others (pneumonia, shingles,
HPV etc) are even lower than that. It is not just the hillbilly
rednecks either. There are liberal Hollywood types who say
vaccinations give your kids Autism.

On 04/02/2021 19:50, wrote:
On Thu, 4 Feb 2021 18:00:43 +0000, Bod wrote:

On 04/02/2021 17:39, trader_4 wrote:
On Thursday, February 4, 2021 at 12:25:36 PM UTC-5, Bod wrote:
On 04/02/2021 17:13, trader_4 wrote:
On Thursday, February 4, 2021 at 9:39:27 AM UTC-5, Bod wrote:
On 04/02/2021 14:12, trader_4 wrote:
On Thursday, February 4, 2021 at 1:33:39 AM UTC-5, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 3 Feb 2021 11:18:08 -0800 (PST), Dean
Hoffman wrote:

http://dhhs.ne.gov/Pages/COVID-19-Vaccine-Information.aspx#SectionLink3
There's a timeline about halfway down the page.
It looks like the powers that be hope to have vaccinations completed by October. They hope to
be done with the geezer crowd by about mid May.
Very interesting. Another state that put +65 in 1b (One b, not the
abbreviation for pound***). I should buy a Nebraska ID and spend a
month there, and I'll be vaccinated. A lot of snow there now?

Maryland drugstores are gearing up to vaccinate, and one supermarket**
is already taking reservations (at its pharmacy department, which I
think qualifies as a drugstore. They seem to sell and do everything a
drugstore does.). It makes a list of branches starting with the one
closest to me and lets me pick, but then alas, it says all appointments
are taken. That's fine. It's because they have no vaccine and no
appointments yet. Maybe in one week.

I already have a request in with the county but the news said the number
of qualified drugstores is 6 times the current number of places that are
vaccinating. Still, it shoudln't be this complicated. There should be
one registration website/phone number, and drugstores should be added
automatically when they come on line. There didn't need to be 66
different webpages either, anymore than having each jurisdiction write
its same tracking app, just one good one. I believe in federalism too,
but i'm sure some of these don't work well, others were awarded to the
state senate head's nephew, etc.


I can't figure out if Biden did something different or if this drugstore
part would have happened at the same speed under trump. If anyone
replies, try to remove ideology and stick to facts, although I think
people see facts based on who they like.


**It's SAFEWAY, but it links to an ALBERTSON page, which displays about
10 logos, so if there is an ALBERTSON-owned chain near you, this is
probably an option.

The one thing drugstores and supermarkets haven't had that clinics have
is enough seats to wait in afterward, but I'm sure they can find a few
chairs and make people who want to buy what's behind the patients
waiting either wait themselves of lean over them. ;-)


From what I see adding drug stores just increases the custer f***. There
isn't enough vaccine to keep the current sites going, so diverting part to
other channels just shuts down the places that are best equipped. What
resources will they have to deal with bad reactions as opposed to doing it
in larger, probably better equipped facilities?

Same nonsense is going on here in NJ. There is a state registration website,
but it does not explain what it feeds. Even worse, the state website also has
a list of 200+ places that are giving the vaccine, with web links. The state has
6 mega sites, those are on the list and only one has the state registration link.
The other 5 have their own. So, what does the state registration do?

I just tried the state mega site in AC. By some miracle, I went right into the que
for an appointment. It said there were 950 slots available. It took 11 mins for
it to go to zero, I didn't get a slot. On the AC website it says that it doesn't
matter when you get in the que, they pull randomly. But when you get in the
que, it says that they pull in numerical order. A week ago I lucked out and
saw that they would be taking appointments at 3PM. I tried at about 2:45PM,
not knowing there was a que, there were 17K in the que already. When did
they actually open the que? Who knows, it wasn't open around 10AM when
I found out they would take appointments at 3PM. Today, they must have
started the process around 8AM, but how is anyone supposed to know?
I'm registered with the state, this is a state mega site. I also registered
with this mega site at their own website. So WTF is going on? Are they
pulling people from the state list? From their own list? Only taking people
that get lucky and find the que open? Some from all? Adding drug stores
to this just increases the disorder when you don't have anywhere near
enough vaccine.



I just got a letter today from the NHS telling me to book an appointment
to get my first jab at my local GPs surgery.
They've finished doing all of the over 80s etc.
They are working down the age ranges and vulnerable folk. We are down to
the over 70s etc now. I am 72. I will get an exact time slot allocated,
so no waiting in a queue.

That sounds too logical. Here not only did they move right down to 65,
but they also included anyone with pre-existing risk conditions. No agreeement
between states, organizations what those are. One place obesity is on the list,
another just being overweight is sufficient. Smoking seems to be on all the
lists. And it's all on the honor system, no proof required. You can imagine how
that's going. Where just being overweight gets you vaccinated ahead of others,
probably 80% of the population could get the vaccine now, while following the
rules.

Yes that does seem illogical.

Here is more that's illogical . For 42% of Republicans the vaccine timeline is never.

https://nypost.com/2021/02/03/1-in-4...-vaccine-poll/

I know one. Instead of believing in science and facts, they believe in Qanon and crazy lies.


Blimey! I never knew it was that high.

They seldom get 50% for flu shots and the others (pneumonia, shingles,
HPV etc) are even lower than that. It is not just the hillbilly
rednecks either. There are liberal Hollywood types who say
vaccinations give your kids Autism.

Wow.

wrote in message
...
On Thu, 4 Feb 2021 05:56:39 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:

On Wednesday, February 3, 2021 at 2:18:12 PM UTC-5,
wrote:
http://dhhs.ne.gov/Pages/COVID-19-Vaccine-Information.aspx#SectionLink3
There's a timeline about halfway down the page.
It looks like the powers that be hope to have vaccinations completed by
October. They hope to
be done with the geezer crowd by about mid May.

But elsewhere I see most officials giving rosier forecasts. And lots of
stupidity, eg
Cuomo and deBlasio moving immediately down to 65 and then whining about
there
being shortages of vaccine, so they have to close facilities. From what
I see, the
bottom line is Biden says they are going to increase the run rate to ~10
mil doses a
week, it's a little less than that now. It takes two, so that's 5 mil
people a week.
That would do 70 mil by mid May. To do everyone would take over a year.
J&J will be helping that, but no idea what their capacity is.

I also just read that a study in Israel that looked at 700K people,
concluded that after
one dose they were 90% protected. We need to look at that here, if it's
valid then we
should do what the UK is doing, forget the second dose, just give the
first. Also from
that study, for two weeks after getting the shot, there was no increase in
immunity.
The third week it started to rise and achieved it's final value of 90% at
the end of
that week, there was no further increase after that.

A shocking thing here is that no one is talking about why we can't produce
more.
Why are they not building new lines to make it? Why are we not even
hearing
anything about any effort at all? I did hear that in Europe the govts
there are
working with Pfizer to get other pharma companies to produce their
product.
WTF is going on here?

The only way they are going to be willing to increase
their plants is if they see a continuing market.

More mindless bull****, they are doing it already.

Nobody is going to set up a factory for one run of anything.

They have already done that, and it isnt a new factory anyway,

Fortunately for the drug companies, I really think
is is going to be an annual thing as new mutations

But then you have never had a ****ing
clue about anything at all, ever.

and better vaccines come along.

Worse ones are in fact coming along.

In that regard, this may be like the flu.

Nope, it mutates much faster.

Who knows,

Clearly not you.

this research might even come up with the elusive
cure for another corona virus, the common cold.

Unlikely given that there isnt just one of those.

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On Thu, 4 Feb 2021 06:12:31 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:

From what I see adding drug stores just increases the custer f***. There
isn't enough vaccine to keep the current sites going, so diverting part to
other channels just shuts down the places that are best equipped. What
resources will they have to deal with bad reactions as opposed to doing it
in larger, probably better equipped facilities?

I think they are trying to get infrastructure in place for when there
is going to be a steady supply. The private pharmacies already have a
robust infrastructure for giving a wide array of shots now. This is
just going to be another shot for them as soon as supply catches up
with demand. The government is not really equipped for this.

They are robbing peter to pay paul.

Bull****.

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On Thu, 4 Feb 2021 18:00:43 +0000, Bod wrote:

On 04/02/2021 17:39, trader_4 wrote:
On Thursday, February 4, 2021 at 12:25:36 PM UTC-5, Bod wrote:
On 04/02/2021 17:13, trader_4 wrote:
On Thursday, February 4, 2021 at 9:39:27 AM UTC-5, Bod wrote:
On 04/02/2021 14:12, trader_4 wrote:
On Thursday, February 4, 2021 at 1:33:39 AM UTC-5, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 3 Feb 2021 11:18:08 -0800 (PST), Dean
Hoffman wrote:

http://dhhs.ne.gov/Pages/COVID-19-Vaccine-Information.aspx#SectionLink3
There's a timeline about halfway down the page.
It looks like the powers that be hope to have vaccinations
completed by October. They hope to
be done with the geezer crowd by about mid May.
Very interesting. Another state that put +65 in 1b (One b, not the
abbreviation for pound***). I should buy a Nebraska ID and spend a
month there, and I'll be vaccinated. A lot of snow there now?

Maryland drugstores are gearing up to vaccinate, and one
supermarket**
is already taking reservations (at its pharmacy department, which I
think qualifies as a drugstore. They seem to sell and do everything
a
drugstore does.). It makes a list of branches starting with the one
closest to me and lets me pick, but then alas, it says all
appointments
are taken. That's fine. It's because they have no vaccine and no
appointments yet. Maybe in one week.

I already have a request in with the county but the news said the
number
of qualified drugstores is 6 times the current number of places
that are
vaccinating. Still, it shoudln't be this complicated. There should
be
one registration website/phone number, and drugstores should be
added
automatically when they come on line. There didn't need to be 66
different webpages either, anymore than having each jurisdiction
write
its same tracking app, just one good one. I believe in federalism
too,
but i'm sure some of these don't work well, others were awarded to
the
state senate head's nephew, etc.


I can't figure out if Biden did something different or if this
drugstore
part would have happened at the same speed under trump. If anyone
replies, try to remove ideology and stick to facts, although I
think
people see facts based on who they like.


**It's SAFEWAY, but it links to an ALBERTSON page, which displays
about
10 logos, so if there is an ALBERTSON-owned chain near you, this is
probably an option.

The one thing drugstores and supermarkets haven't had that clinics
have
is enough seats to wait in afterward, but I'm sure they can find a
few
chairs and make people who want to buy what's behind the patients
waiting either wait themselves of lean over them. ;-)


From what I see adding drug stores just increases the custer f***.
There
isn't enough vaccine to keep the current sites going, so diverting
part to
other channels just shuts down the places that are best equipped.
What
resources will they have to deal with bad reactions as opposed to
doing it
in larger, probably better equipped facilities?

Same nonsense is going on here in NJ. There is a state registration
website,
but it does not explain what it feeds. Even worse, the state website
also has
a list of 200+ places that are giving the vaccine, with web links.
The state has
6 mega sites, those are on the list and only one has the state
registration link.
The other 5 have their own. So, what does the state registration do?

I just tried the state mega site in AC. By some miracle, I went
right into the que
for an appointment. It said there were 950 slots available. It took
11 mins for
it to go to zero, I didn't get a slot. On the AC website it says
that it doesn't
matter when you get in the que, they pull randomly. But when you get
in the
que, it says that they pull in numerical order. A week ago I lucked
out and
saw that they would be taking appointments at 3PM. I tried at about
2:45PM,
not knowing there was a que, there were 17K in the que already. When
did
they actually open the que? Who knows, it wasn't open around 10AM
when
I found out they would take appointments at 3PM. Today, they must
have
started the process around 8AM, but how is anyone supposed to know?
I'm registered with the state, this is a state mega site. I also
registered
with this mega site at their own website. So WTF is going on? Are
they
pulling people from the state list? From their own list? Only taking
people
that get lucky and find the que open? Some from all? Adding drug
stores
to this just increases the disorder when you don't have anywhere
near
enough vaccine.



I just got a letter today from the NHS telling me to book an
appointment
to get my first jab at my local GPs surgery.
They've finished doing all of the over 80s etc.
They are working down the age ranges and vulnerable folk. We are down
to
the over 70s etc now. I am 72. I will get an exact time slot
allocated,
so no waiting in a queue.

That sounds too logical. Here not only did they move right down to
65,
but they also included anyone with pre-existing risk conditions. No
agreeement
between states, organizations what those are. One place obesity is on
the list,
another just being overweight is sufficient. Smoking seems to be on
all the
lists. And it's all on the honor system, no proof required. You can
imagine how
that's going. Where just being overweight gets you vaccinated ahead of
others,
probably 80% of the population could get the vaccine now, while
following the
rules.

Yes that does seem illogical.

Here is more that's illogical . For 42% of Republicans the vaccine
timeline is never.

https://nypost.com/2021/02/03/1-in-4...-vaccine-poll/

I know one. Instead of believing in science and facts, they believe in
Qanon and crazy lies.


Blimey! I never knew it was that high.

They seldom get 50% for flu shots

Because its not a serious disease for most.

and the others (pneumonia, shingles,
HPV etc) are even lower than that.

For the same reason.

And measles, mumps, rubella etc isnt.

It is not just the hillbilly rednecks either.
There are liberal Hollywood types who
say vaccinations give your kids Autism.

Only the pig ignorant fools.

On Fri, 5 Feb 2021 08:00:22 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

FLUSH the trolling senile asshole's latest troll**** unread

On Thursday, February 4, 2021 at 2:40:04 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Thu, 4 Feb 2021 05:56:39 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:

On Wednesday, February 3, 2021 at 2:18:12 PM UTC-5, wrote:
http://dhhs.ne.gov/Pages/COVID-19-Vaccine-Information.aspx#SectionLink3
There's a timeline about halfway down the page.
It looks like the powers that be hope to have vaccinations completed by October. They hope to
be done with the geezer crowd by about mid May.

But elsewhere I see most officials giving rosier forecasts. And lots of stupidity, eg
Cuomo and deBlasio moving immediately down to 65 and then whining about there
being shortages of vaccine, so they have to close facilities. From what I see, the
bottom line is Biden says they are going to increase the run rate to ~10 mil doses a
week, it's a little less than that now. It takes two, so that's 5 mil people a week.
That would do 70 mil by mid May. To do everyone would take over a year.
J&J will be helping that, but no idea what their capacity is.

I also just read that a study in Israel that looked at 700K people, concluded that after
one dose they were 90% protected. We need to look at that here, if it's valid then we
should do what the UK is doing, forget the second dose, just give the first. Also from
that study, for two weeks after getting the shot, there was no increase in immunity.
The third week it started to rise and achieved it's final value of 90% at the end of
that week, there was no further increase after that.

A shocking thing here is that no one is talking about why we can't produce more.
Why are they not building new lines to make it? Why are we not even hearing
anything about any effort at all? I did hear that in Europe the govts there are
working with Pfizer to get other pharma companies to produce their product.
WTF is going on here?

The only way they are going to be willing to increase their plants is
if they see a continuing market. Nobody is going to set up a factory
for one run of anything.

Then that is the job of the federal govt, to make it happen. Maybe it will
now that we have a president who isn't a lying denier. Trump said it's a war,
he's a war time president, then he surrendered to the virus. Did Roosevelt
say nobody is going to undertake building an atom bomb, so let's not do it?
In fact they create three massive programs to enrich uranium, using
three different methods. Apparently drug companies are setting up factories
for limited runs or we would not have the multiple plants making vaccines right now.
The fundamental problem here is from what I see no one is addressing this
and it should have been addressed starting last spring, have in place the
eqpt, faciliites, personnel, to replicate the successful vaccines into more
production. Trump was too busy lying, denying, holding death rallies.
He was so stupid and incompetent that when Pfizer offered the opportunity
for the govt to buy more in late summer, Trump declined. Biden had to do
it and now we're behind other countries, it won't show up until summer.
How many Americans will die from that stupidity? Trump should have
been impeached for that alone.




Fortunately for the drug companies, I really think this is going to be
an annual thing as new mutations and better vaccines come along. In
that regard, this may be like the flu.

Well, then make up your mind, is it one run or annual?

On Thursday, February 4, 2021 at 2:44:59 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Thu, 4 Feb 2021 06:12:31 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:

From what I see adding drug stores just increases the custer f***. There
isn't enough vaccine to keep the current sites going, so diverting part to
other channels just shuts down the places that are best equipped. What
resources will they have to deal with bad reactions as opposed to doing it
in larger, probably better equipped facilities?
I think they are trying to get infrastructure in place for when there
is going to be a steady supply.

There already is a steady supply, 10 mil doses a week. And AFAIK, it's not going
to get better for many months, maybe ever, except for J&J coming on and
it sounded like they are struggling with making it.


The private pharmacies already have a
robust infrastructure for giving a wide array of shots now. This is
just going to be another shot for them as soon as supply catches up
with demand. The government is not really equipped for this. They are
robbing peter to pay paul.

Supply isn't going to catch up with demand probably until fall.