On Sun, 3 Jan 2021 04:31:12 +1100, "Fred", better known as cantankerous
trolling senile geezer Rodent Speed, wrote:


Inductors don't usually explode.

Don't you want to blow yourself up, you useless 86-year-old trolling senile
pest? Or at least swallow your Nembutal, useless cretin?

--
Kerr-Mudd,John addressing senile Rot:
"Auto-contradictor Rod is back! (in the KF)"
MID:

On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 11:57:14 -0700, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


In a thread in another group Baofeng radios came up for discussion.

Doing again what you can do best: sucking of the unwashed Scottish ******,
you disgusting senile sucker of troll cock?

On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 15:38:08 -0500, Witherspoon, another mentally deficient,
troll-feeding, senile ASSHOLE, blathered:


I no longer trust anything Chinese that has to have power running
through it.

Yeah, senile moron, pour your heart out to the trolling ****** and attention
whore! ****ing stupid senile morons! LOL

On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 11:51:52 -0700, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


Didn't grow up in the '50s, did you? The Chinese can and do make high
quality products as well as cheap junk.

What puzzles me is a lot of the cheap junk requires almost as much work
as the good stuff.

You'd better worry about all the junk you senile twits keep producing on
these groups on a daily basis, lowbrowwoman!

On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 21:43:25 -0700, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

Lemme see...

"Lemme see", you babbling senile asshole? LOL! What I see is you senile
assholes making a success of the Scottish ******'s latest idiotic troll!
Just HOW senile are all you old farts?

On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 19:23:09 -0700, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


I have some HF sockets, open ends, and so forth

Above all, you got a BIG mouth, senile gossip!

On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 19:14:22 -0700, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


I should buy a Baofeng to play with.

Nope, blabbermouth, you should just STFU ...for good!

On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 21:47:05 -0700, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


Anything on 220 where you are? I sort of forget that even exists.

You mean blathering on Usenet is not yet ENOUGH for you, senile gossip? LOL

On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 22:14:31 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 1/2/2021 9:00 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 19:50:15 -0500, Ralph Mowery
wrote:

In article , says...

Do you blame China or Harbor Freight? HF wants to sell stuff cheap.
Much of it is junk, Some will get you through that one time project and
they crap out. HF does have some good buys if you are careful, I've
bought some good knives and air fittings but I'd not buy a new car there.



I blame the American public. Sometimes even myself.

I have some HF tools here and even keep the $ 29.95 tool set in my
truck. I look on them as use one time in an emergency type items. Only
used the ratchet one time to help a fellow put his fan belt back on a
car. The kind that has a pully with a strong spring that has to be
pulled back. Out of about 20 men I was the only one that had a tool
that could be used.

For a home owner like me that may use a tool once or twice they are ok,
but if I made my living with tools, I would go to another brand.

I do buy (more like used to as I have most tools I need now ) mostly the
Craftsman tools for home use.


I think that is a strange policy. If you are on the side of the road
or stuck out on the water in your boat and you have one chance to get
going again, the last thing you want is a marginal tool .


Hard to disagree with that but a marginal tool did the job where others
had no tool. What do you keep in your car? I have a screwdriver and
flashlight.

A screwdriver to take off the tag, my phone and a AAA card. I figure
the driver can get me to civilization where I can rent a car. ;-)

In real life I haven't been more than 20 miles from home in a year and
5 is a more accurate radius most of the time.

On Sunday, January 3, 2021 at 2:30:13 AM UTC-5, RosemontCrest wrote:
On 1/2/2021 10:38 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Sat, 02 Jan 2021 23:17:48 -0600, Jim Joyce
wrote:

On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 22:14:31 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 1/2/2021 9:00 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 19:50:15 -0500, Ralph Mowery
wrote:

In article , says...

Do you blame China or Harbor Freight? HF wants to sell stuff cheap.
Much of it is junk, Some will get you through that one time project and
they crap out. HF does have some good buys if you are careful, I've
bought some good knives and air fittings but I'd not buy a new car there.



I blame the American public. Sometimes even myself.

I have some HF tools here and even keep the $ 29.95 tool set in my
truck. I look on them as use one time in an emergency type items. Only
used the ratchet one time to help a fellow put his fan belt back on a
car. The kind that has a pully with a strong spring that has to be
pulled back. Out of about 20 men I was the only one that had a tool
that could be used.

For a home owner like me that may use a tool once or twice they are ok,
but if I made my living with tools, I would go to another brand.

I do buy (more like used to as I have most tools I need now ) mostly the
Craftsman tools for home use.


I think that is a strange policy. If you are on the side of the road
or stuck out on the water in your boat and you have one chance to get
going again, the last thing you want is a marginal tool .


Hard to disagree with that but a marginal tool did the job where others
had no tool. What do you keep in your car? I have a screwdriver and
flashlight.

In one car, I have jumper cables, a rag, a flashlight that I haven't
checked in several years, and two phone charging cables. In the second
vehicle, I just have a phone charging cable. I carry nothing on the
motorcycle.

Hey, I can always serve as a bad example.
Forgot - I have flashlights and LED safety flares in both vehicles as
well.
Well, I carry two of everything that anyone has so far mentioned. I also
carry in my Miata a 24-ton floor jack, a 6000 Watt multi-fuel generator
with 200 gallon fuel tank, four 8000 Watt aircraft landing lights, and
two boxes of strike-anywhere matches.

Oh, and two finger nail clippers... and shovels! Don't forget the
shovels! I also carry two first-aid kits complete with at least two of
everything I will never need.

The rest of you may be ill prepared, but I'm not!

Prepared for what? I have a 5 mile city-outskirts drive to work and
the grocery store is on the way. That's 90% of my driving. The
other 10% is elsewhere in town.

Once in a blue moon I drive to my mother's house about 40 miles
away. There's infrastructure all along the route. If I get into trouble,
the AAA number is printed right on my membership card.

Cindy Hamilton

In article ,
says...

On 01/02/2021 09:17 PM, Ralph Mowery wrote:
I have 2 of the Baofengs. One is a dual band and the other is a 3 band
with the 220 mhz band on it. They work fine for what I use them for.
Mainly just to go to hamfest with several others and keep in touch or
carry it to my repeater to give it a final test before leaving.

Anything on 220 where you are? I sort of forget that even exists.



I live near the middle of NC. I have a low power 220 repeater on the
air. An old VHF Engineering repeater that is around 30 years old if not
older.

There are a few others around. They are not in HT range,but I can use
them with the transceiver in the house and a dipole about 20 feet off
the ground.

On 1/3/2021 3:41 AM, k mann wrote:
On 1/2/21 10:14 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 1/2/2021 9:00 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 19:50:15 -0500, Ralph Mowery
wrote:

In article , says...

Do you blame China or Harbor Freight?Â* HF wants to sell stuff cheap.
Much of it is junk, Some will get you through that one time project
and
they crap out.Â* HF does have some good buys if you are careful,Â* I've
bought some good knives and air fittings but I'd not buy a new car
there.



I blame the American public. Sometimes even myself.

I have some HF tools here and even keep the $ 29.95 tool set in my
truck.Â* I look on them as use one time in an emergency type items.
Only
used the ratchet one time to help a fellow put his fan belt back on a
car.Â* The kind that has a pully with a strong spring that has to be
pulled back.Â* Out of about 20 men I was the only one that had a tool
that could be used.

For a home owner like me that may use a tool once or twice they are ok,
but if I made my living with tools, I would go to another brand.

I do buy (more like used to as I have most tools I need now ) mostly
the
Craftsman tools for home use.


I think that is a strange policy. If you are on the side of the road
or stuck out on the water in your boat and you have one chance to get
going again, the last thing you want is a marginal tool .


Hard to disagree with that but a marginal tool did the job where
others had no tool.Â* What do you keep in your car?Â* I have a
screwdriver and flashlight.

No tools. Just a cellphone and the number to Jasper Towing Service.

And they'd only take 3 days to get there.

On 1/3/2021 1:38 AM, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Sat, 02 Jan 2021 23:17:48 -0600, Jim Joyce
wrote:

On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 22:14:31 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 1/2/2021 9:00 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 19:50:15 -0500, Ralph Mowery
wrote:

In article , says...

Do you blame China or Harbor Freight? HF wants to sell stuff cheap.
Much of it is junk, Some will get you through that one time project and
they crap out. HF does have some good buys if you are careful, I've
bought some good knives and air fittings but I'd not buy a new car there.



I blame the American public. Sometimes even myself.

I have some HF tools here and even keep the $ 29.95 tool set in my
truck. I look on them as use one time in an emergency type items. Only
used the ratchet one time to help a fellow put his fan belt back on a
car. The kind that has a pully with a strong spring that has to be
pulled back. Out of about 20 men I was the only one that had a tool
that could be used.

For a home owner like me that may use a tool once or twice they are ok,
but if I made my living with tools, I would go to another brand.

I do buy (more like used to as I have most tools I need now ) mostly the
Craftsman tools for home use.


I think that is a strange policy. If you are on the side of the road
or stuck out on the water in your boat and you have one chance to get
going again, the last thing you want is a marginal tool .


Hard to disagree with that but a marginal tool did the job where others
had no tool. What do you keep in your car? I have a screwdriver and
flashlight.

In one car, I have jumper cables, a rag, a flashlight that I haven't
checked in several years, and two phone charging cables. In the second
vehicle, I just have a phone charging cable. I carry nothing on the
motorcycle.

Hey, I can always serve as a bad example.
Forgot - I have flashlights and LED safety flares in both vehicles as
well.


I have to check. I have an emergency kit from my insurance company. I
know it has jumper cables and a reflective triangle but not sure what
else. I've not opened it in years. My car came with a first aid kit
too. I looked at it 3 years ago but have not had need to open it since.

On Sat, 02 Jan 2021 21:37:22 -0000, Clare Snyder wrote:

On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 13:35:50 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 1/2/2021 12:24 PM, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 02/01/2021 17:13, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 02 Jan 2021 17:08:34 -0000, Jim Stewart ...
wrote:

On 02/01/2021 16:55, Commander Kinsey wrote:
An LED striplight. After 1 month, BANG! A puff of smoke and a hole
blown in the side of it. What I think used to be an inductor has
exploded with enough force to rupture the casing. Funny thing is, it
continued to work for a day, and now works if I tap it.

https://i.imgur.com/U1AxIet.jpg
Chyyyyna...squandering the worlds resources.....

What makes you say they're doing that?
I have never thrown away so much chinese junk....never did that with jap
stuff....

Much of it made to the specifications of an engineer or designer from
the US importer. Ask for junk, get junk.


From personal experience:
You give the specs to the chinese and ask for test samples - they
excede your spec by 20 or 30%. You place your first order - they meet
spec - mabee excede by a percent or 2. You place your third order and
the quality has gone right down the crapper. This was computer parts.
Unless you have inspectors embedded in the factory you don't know WHAT
you are getting - or even what "factory" they are coming out of. One
"major brand" component was being produced under a tarp behind a guy's
"house" by a cabal of kids. Different kids from month 2 month - and
likely even a differnt guy's house. That was the "final product".
Where the board was printed, where it was etched, where the components
came from? Anybody's guess. Where the solfer for the wave soldering
machinr came from? again - anybodies guess. Likely the scrap from
another, bigger, "major manufacturer".

Lots of these little "micro-factories" in places like Guandong
supplying "major brand" distributors.

China is Fallout 4.

On Sun, 3 Jan 2021 04:56:33 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Sunday, January 3, 2021 at 2:30:13 AM UTC-5, RosemontCrest wrote:
On 1/2/2021 10:38 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Sat, 02 Jan 2021 23:17:48 -0600, Jim Joyce
wrote:

On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 22:14:31 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 1/2/2021 9:00 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 19:50:15 -0500, Ralph Mowery
wrote:

In article , says...

Do you blame China or Harbor Freight? HF wants to sell stuff cheap.
Much of it is junk, Some will get you through that one time project and
they crap out. HF does have some good buys if you are careful, I've
bought some good knives and air fittings but I'd not buy a new car there.



I blame the American public. Sometimes even myself.

I have some HF tools here and even keep the $ 29.95 tool set in my
truck. I look on them as use one time in an emergency type items. Only
used the ratchet one time to help a fellow put his fan belt back on a
car. The kind that has a pully with a strong spring that has to be
pulled back. Out of about 20 men I was the only one that had a tool
that could be used.

For a home owner like me that may use a tool once or twice they are ok,
but if I made my living with tools, I would go to another brand.

I do buy (more like used to as I have most tools I need now ) mostly the
Craftsman tools for home use.


I think that is a strange policy. If you are on the side of the road
or stuck out on the water in your boat and you have one chance to get
going again, the last thing you want is a marginal tool .


Hard to disagree with that but a marginal tool did the job where others
had no tool. What do you keep in your car? I have a screwdriver and
flashlight.

In one car, I have jumper cables, a rag, a flashlight that I haven't
checked in several years, and two phone charging cables. In the second
vehicle, I just have a phone charging cable. I carry nothing on the
motorcycle.

Hey, I can always serve as a bad example.
Forgot - I have flashlights and LED safety flares in both vehicles as
well.
Well, I carry two of everything that anyone has so far mentioned. I also
carry in my Miata a 24-ton floor jack, a 6000 Watt multi-fuel generator
with 200 gallon fuel tank, four 8000 Watt aircraft landing lights, and
two boxes of strike-anywhere matches.

Oh, and two finger nail clippers... and shovels! Don't forget the
shovels! I also carry two first-aid kits complete with at least two of
everything I will never need.

The rest of you may be ill prepared, but I'm not!

Prepared for what? I have a 5 mile city-outskirts drive to work and
the grocery store is on the way. That's 90% of my driving. The
other 10% is elsewhere in town.

Once in a blue moon I drive to my mother's house about 40 miles
away. There's infrastructure all along the route. If I get into trouble,
the AAA number is printed right on my membership card.

Cindy Hamilton
Back when I had my mini there was an unwritten rule - you didn't go
anywhere you were not willing to walk or hitch-hike home from.

Served me well back before the days of cell phones and UBER

On Sun, 3 Jan 2021 12:05:13 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 1/3/2021 1:38 AM, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Sat, 02 Jan 2021 23:17:48 -0600, Jim Joyce
wrote:

On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 22:14:31 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 1/2/2021 9:00 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 19:50:15 -0500, Ralph Mowery
wrote:

In article , says...

Do you blame China or Harbor Freight? HF wants to sell stuff cheap.
Much of it is junk, Some will get you through that one time project and
they crap out. HF does have some good buys if you are careful, I've
bought some good knives and air fittings but I'd not buy a new car there.



I blame the American public. Sometimes even myself.

I have some HF tools here and even keep the $ 29.95 tool set in my
truck. I look on them as use one time in an emergency type items. Only
used the ratchet one time to help a fellow put his fan belt back on a
car. The kind that has a pully with a strong spring that has to be
pulled back. Out of about 20 men I was the only one that had a tool
that could be used.

For a home owner like me that may use a tool once or twice they are ok,
but if I made my living with tools, I would go to another brand.

I do buy (more like used to as I have most tools I need now ) mostly the
Craftsman tools for home use.


I think that is a strange policy. If you are on the side of the road
or stuck out on the water in your boat and you have one chance to get
going again, the last thing you want is a marginal tool .


Hard to disagree with that but a marginal tool did the job where others
had no tool. What do you keep in your car? I have a screwdriver and
flashlight.

In one car, I have jumper cables, a rag, a flashlight that I haven't
checked in several years, and two phone charging cables. In the second
vehicle, I just have a phone charging cable. I carry nothing on the
motorcycle.

Hey, I can always serve as a bad example.
Forgot - I have flashlights and LED safety flares in both vehicles as
well.


I have to check. I have an emergency kit from my insurance company. I
know it has jumper cables and a reflective triangle but not sure what
else. I've not opened it in years. My car came with a first aid kit
too. I looked at it 3 years ago but have not had need to open it since.
As long as you don't carry cheap tools you may never have to open it
- - -

On 3/01/2021 8:28 pm, Peeler wrote:
On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 17:08:34 +0000, Dim Stewart ... another brain damaged,
troll-feeding senile ASSHOLE, blathered again:


Chyyyyna...squandering the worlds resources.....

TYPICAL senile ASSHOLE ...feeding the dumbest crazy troll around! tsk

How nice to see you two are still getting along.

On Mon, 4 Jan 2021 08:00:07 +0800, RheillyPhoull wrote:


TYPICAL senile ASSHOLE ...feeding the dumbest crazy troll around! tsk

How nice to see you two are still getting along.

You Australian smartasses really are "special". BG

On Sun, 03 Jan 2021 04:44:48 -0000, Clare Snyder wrote:

On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 17:54:12 -0500, Witherspoon wrote:

On 1/2/21 4:42 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 15:38:08 -0500, Witherspoon wrote:

On 1/2/21 11:55 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
An LED striplight. After 1 month, BANG! A puff of smoke and a hole
blown in the side of it. What I think used to be an inductor has
exploded with enough force to rupture the casing. Funny thing is, it
continued to work for a day, and now works if I tap it.

https://i.imgur.com/U1AxIet.jpg

I no longer trust anything Chinese that has to have power running
through it. I ordered six so-called "20 amp" 12-24 VDC LED dimmers a
month ago. Out of the two I tried, one burned up within minutes at only
5 amps at 12VDC, and the other burned after several days running the
same. The latter actually went without warning, but at least the first
one was running hot so I actually didn't leave the area for fear it was
going to burn. Good thing I have a strong fan to evacuate the fumes,
which would surely be toxic in short order!

None of this Chinese crap is UL listed and thus just about anything can
happen. The ONLY thing I might take a chance on are older ATX power
supplies. At least those have a listing and, although still not UL, it
is better than nothing plus US PC manufacturers don't want to be sued
for their computer burning down a house.
You buy electical or electronic goods from China and they ask "what
stickers do you want on them".
"We need CSA" we reply
"Can you send us a sample?" they reply.

"No thank you, we'll buy somewhere else"
So you find a supplier that knows what CSA is and has the stickers -
and find out the same CSA number ia on 5 different products you order
from them - - -

I admit, some of the electronics being offered online is quite tempting
and at more than reasonable prices. Heck, for a lot of it, Youtubers
have reviews, but seldom have follow ups a month or even a week down the
road, so still hard to trust. Having an actual UL rating would add
quite a bit to the price and the US is so accustomed to these cheaper
rates, that most people will skip and look for the same so-called
Chinese equivalent.

I had a dryer going bad a couple of weeks ago. I blew my budget on the
holidays, however, so decided to opt for a gently used one. Once I
found the one I was looking for, I decided to do online research to see
whether or not it was made in the USA or elsewhere. In my case, it
appears to have been made in the USA... at least I hope so. As time
passes, it gets more difficult to tell. The actual parts may be made in
China, for example, and then assembled here, but will that difference be
mentioned on the tag? Probably not.


"built (or assembled) in the USA of world sourced parts" is one of the
"honest" ways of marking product.

I saw three countries on something I bought, I think it was a CPU. Something like "fabricated in X, built in Y out of parts from Z".

The Russian FED 4 camera was extremely robust, even after me, and my dad before me, dropped it many many times on rocks.


On Sun, 03 Jan 2021 10:22:01 -0000, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:

This is not a new thing though is it? Back in the days of the USSR we used
to get a lot of stuff like cassette machines and radios and even black and
whit tvs from Soviet bloc countries. Some were OK, but a little fragile but
one I remember made by a company in the Czech area called Tesla had a
great design and a great sound as a recorder player that ran form the mains.
The sad part was that it seemed to have been manufactured by idiots in that
all the riveted bits were loose, the flywheel was not on straight and the
motor and induction type, was doubling as the mains transformer and
basically over a three month period it gradually fell to bits chewed tape
and finally the brackets that held the piano keys fell of completely.

Like most things, a lot of things are designed well but cheap manufacture
and lack of quality control and corner cutting on components ruin them.
Brian

On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 22:14:31 -0500, Ed Pawlowski posted for all of us to
digest...

What do you keep in your car?


AAA card. I couldn't use them if I had them.

--
Tekkie

On Sun, 03 Jan 2021 00:01:36 -0500, Clare Snyder posted for all of us to
digest...

ScanGuage


I had one of them! I wonder where it is now?

--
Tekkie

On Sun, 3 Jan 2021 06:41:47 -0500, k mann posted for all of us to digest...



No tools. Just a cellphone and the number to Jasper Towing Service.

LMAO good one!

--
Tekkie

On 4/01/2021 5:40 pm, Peeler wrote:
On Mon, 4 Jan 2021 08:00:07 +0800, RheillyPhoull wrote:


TYPICAL senile ASSHOLE ...feeding the dumbest crazy troll around! tsk

How nice to see you two are still getting along.

You Australian smartasses really are "special". BG

Oh Peeler I think you are gorgeous when grumpy

On 01/04/2021 11:40 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:

I saw three countries on something I bought, I think it was a CPU.
Something like "fabricated in X, built in Y out of parts from Z".

I believe the labeling requirements were removed but I remember seeing a
5 lb package of hamburger at CosCo that claimed the US, Mexico, and
Canada as the country of origin. That was one well traveled cow.

On 01/04/2021 11:41 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
The Russian FED 4 camera was extremely robust, even after me, and my dad
before me, dropped it many many times on rocks.

Russians make robust items even if they're not the latest technology.
Kalashnikovs, for example.

On 01/04/2021 02:37 PM, Tekkie� wrote:

On Sun, 03 Jan 2021 00:01:36 -0500, Clare Snyder posted for all of us to
digest...

ScanGuage


I had one of them! I wonder where it is now?


Mine's in the drawer. I mostly used it for mileage data and the 2018
Yaris has that built into the display.

On Tue, 5 Jan 2021 08:21:37 +0800, RheillyPhoull, another typical senile
Australian twit, blathered:

You Australian smartasses really are "special". BG

Oh Peeler I think you are gorgeous when grumpy

Idiot!

On Mon, 4 Jan 2021 19:34:49 -0700, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


Mine's in the drawer.

In the drawer? No ****! Thanks for telling us, senile gossip! VBG

On Mon, 4 Jan 2021 19:30:09 -0700, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


I believe

I believe you simply don't manage to remove your senile big gob from the
unwashed Scottish ******'s cock, senile sucker of troll cock!

On Mon, 4 Jan 2021 19:32:41 -0700, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


Russians make robust items even if they're not the latest technology.
Kalashnikovs, for example.

Let's just hope that at least THEY don't produce robust endlessly blabbering
bigmouths of your kind, you endlessly bull****ting and gossiping senile
Yankietard!

On Monday, January 4, 2021 at 9:29:48 PM UTC-5, rbowman wrote:
On 01/04/2021 11:40 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:

I saw three countries on something I bought, I think it was a CPU.
Something like "fabricated in X, built in Y out of parts from Z".
I believe the labeling requirements were removed but I remember seeing a
5 lb package of hamburger at CosCo that claimed the US, Mexico, and
Canada as the country of origin. That was one well traveled cow.

More likely three well-traveled cows mixed together in a vat.

Cindy Hamilton

On 5 Jan 2021 at 09:16:23 GMT, "Peeler" wrote:

On Tue, 5 Jan 2021 08:21:37 +0800, RheillyPhoull, another typical senile
Australian twit, blathered:

You Australian smartasses really are "special". BG

Oh Peeler I think you are gorgeous when grumpy

Idiot!

There's a lot of it about.

--
Roger Hayter

On 5 Jan 2021 11:46:40 GMT, Roger Hayter wrote:


You Australian smartasses really are "special". BG

Oh Peeler I think you are gorgeous when grumpy

Idiot!

There's a lot of it about.

That's obviously why YOU feel at home here! BG

On Tue, 05 Jan 2021 11:39:53 -0000, wrote:

On Monday, January 4, 2021 at 9:29:48 PM UTC-5, rbowman wrote:
On 01/04/2021 11:40 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:

I saw three countries on something I bought, I think it was a CPU.
Something like "fabricated in X, built in Y out of parts from Z".
I believe the labeling requirements were removed but I remember seeing a
5 lb package of hamburger at CosCo that claimed the US, Mexico, and
Canada as the country of origin. That was one well traveled cow.

More likely three well-traveled cows mixed together in a vat.

With a touch of horse, which for some reason infuriated people in the UK. Eating a cow is ok, but not a horse?

On Tue, 05 Jan 2021 02:32:41 -0000, rbowman wrote:

On 01/04/2021 11:41 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
The Russian FED 4 camera was extremely robust, even after me, and my dad
before me, dropped it many many times on rocks.

Russians make robust items even if they're not the latest technology.
Kalashnikovs, for example.

I think you could destroy another car if you crashed a Lada into it. All this crumple zone namby pamby **** they put into cars nowadays, it just makes the repair bill higher.

On Sat, 02 Jan 2021 16:42:39 -0500, Clare Snyder posted for all of us to
digest...


On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 15:38:08 -0500, Witherspoon wrote:

On 1/2/21 11:55 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
An LED striplight.* After 1 month, BANG!* A puff of smoke and a hole
blown in the side of it.* What I think used to be an inductor has
exploded with enough force to rupture the casing.* Funny thing is, it
continued to work for a day, and now works if I tap it.

https://i.imgur.com/U1AxIet.jpg

I no longer trust anything Chinese that has to have power running
through it. I ordered six so-called "20 amp" 12-24 VDC LED dimmers a
month ago. Out of the two I tried, one burned up within minutes at only
5 amps at 12VDC, and the other burned after several days running the
same. The latter actually went without warning, but at least the first
one was running hot so I actually didn't leave the area for fear it was
going to burn. Good thing I have a strong fan to evacuate the fumes,
which would surely be toxic in short order!

None of this Chinese crap is UL listed and thus just about anything can
happen. The ONLY thing I might take a chance on are older ATX power
supplies. At least those have a listing and, although still not UL, it
is better than nothing plus US PC manufacturers don't want to be sued
for their computer burning down a house.
You buy electical or electronic goods from China and they ask "what
stickers do you want on them".
"We need CSA" we reply
"Can you send us a sample?" they reply.

"No thank you, we'll buy somewhere else"
So you find a supplier that knows what CSA is and has the stickers -
and find out the same CSA number ia on 5 different products you order
from them - - -

That has always been a bug for me when ordering on Amazon. No listing as to
country of origin. No listing as to compliance of anything.

Computers used to have meet FCC requirements. Wonder if the *clear* sided ones
meet the mark?

--
Tekkie

On 01/05/2021 12:14 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 05 Jan 2021 11:39:53 -0000,
wrote:

On Monday, January 4, 2021 at 9:29:48 PM UTC-5, rbowman wrote:
On 01/04/2021 11:40 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:

I saw three countries on something I bought, I think it was a CPU.
Something like "fabricated in X, built in Y out of parts from Z".
I believe the labeling requirements were removed but I remember seeing a
5 lb package of hamburger at CosCo that claimed the US, Mexico, and
Canada as the country of origin. That was one well traveled cow.

More likely three well-traveled cows mixed together in a vat.

With a touch of horse, which for some reason infuriated people in the
UK. Eating a cow is ok, but not a horse?

The Frogs eat horses. What does that tell you?

On 01/05/2021 12:16 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 05 Jan 2021 02:32:41 -0000, rbowman wrote:

On 01/04/2021 11:41 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
The Russian FED 4 camera was extremely robust, even after me, and my dad
before me, dropped it many many times on rocks.

Russians make robust items even if they're not the latest technology.
Kalashnikovs, for example.

I think you could destroy another car if you crashed a Lada into it.
All this crumple zone namby pamby **** they put into cars nowadays, it
just makes the repair bill higher.

****ty mileage but a BTR-80 would make a great RV.

On Tue, 5 Jan 2021 19:45:54 -0700, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


The Frogs eat horses. What does that tell you?

Well, you suck troll cock, lowbrowwoman! What does that tell us about you?