I currently use Michelin x-ice on my cars and have been happy with their traction. The terrain here is flat to moderate slope but we be in the
snow-belt.

So what are you using and do you like them? Also, how much should mounting and balancing cost?

Thanks in advance...

On 12/30/20 7:40 PM, Fred wrote:
I currently use Michelin x-ice on my cars and have been happy with their
traction.Â* The terrain here is flat to moderate slope but we be in the
snow-belt.

So what are you using and do you like them?Â* Also, how much should
mounting and balancing cost?

Thanks in advance...

Size? What vehicle?

On 12/30/2020 8:40 PM, Fred wrote:
I currently use Michelin x-ice on my cars and have been happy with their
traction.Â* The terrain here is flat to moderate slope but we be in the
snow-belt.

So what are you using and do you like them?Â* Also, how much should
mounting and balancing cost?

Thanks in advance...

On my last two cars I put Nokian WRG3 tires. While they have a snow
rating they are also OK to use year round. They were designed for North
America. There were great in New England and a couple of hills I had to
cross.

Don't recall the price but competitive with other brands.I'm thinking is
was in the $800 range for four complete.

On 12/30/2020 06:40 PM, Fred wrote:
I currently use Michelin x-ice on my cars and have been happy with their
traction. The terrain here is flat to moderate slope but we be in the
snow-belt.

So what are you using and do you like them? Also, how much should
mounting and balancing cost?

Thanks in advance...

If you can find them I was very satisfied with Nokian Hakkapeliittas.
The Finns know a thing or two about snow. I'm currently running studded
Kumhos and they get the job done too. They're noisy but that's what you
get with an aggressive tread and studs. The temperatures here tend to
hover around 32, warm enough in the daytime to melt, and cold enough at
night to freeze so icy roads are a fact of life.

In rbowman writes:

[snip]

If you can find them I was very satisfied with Nokian Hakkapeliittas.
The Finns know a thing or two about snow. I'm currently running studded
Kumhos and they get the job done too. They're noisy but that's what you
get with an aggressive tread and studs.

In many areas, alas, studded tires (well, "real" studs) are
a heavy duty no no and can lead to huge fines and other problems.

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On 12/30/2020 07:43 PM, danny burstein wrote:
In rbowman writes:

[snip]

If you can find them I was very satisfied with Nokian Hakkapeliittas.
The Finns know a thing or two about snow. I'm currently running studded
Kumhos and they get the job done too. They're noisy but that's what you
get with an aggressive tread and studs.

In many areas, alas, studded tires (well, "real" studs) are
a heavy duty no no and can lead to huge fines and other problems.


In this state they are permitted from October 1 - May 31. I have a
mounted set and swap them out Thanksgiving weekend. I play it by ear in
the spring but it's sometime in March or early April. The valley is dry
and dusty by then but the roads to some of the trailheads can be iffy.

For that matter the trails are also iffy. I always have a pair of
Yaktrax on hand this time of year or EnergeticSky spikes if it really
sucks.

On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 22:06:03 -0700, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


In this state they are permitted from October 1 - May 31. I have a
mounted set and swap them out Thanksgiving weekend. I play it by ear in
the spring but it's sometime in March or early April. The valley is dry
and dusty by then but the roads to some of the trailheads can be iffy.

For that matter the trails are also iffy. I always have a pair of
Yaktrax on hand this time of year or EnergeticSky spikes if it really
sucks.

VERY interesting, your life as a hayseed, lowbrowwoman. G ...NOT!

On 12/30/2020 8:41 PM, rbowman wrote:
On 12/30/2020 06:40 PM, Fred wrote:
I currently use Michelin x-ice on my cars and have been happy with their
traction.Â* The terrain here is flat to moderate slope but we be in the
snow-belt.

So what are you using and do you like them?Â* Also, how much should
mounting and balancing cost?

Thanks in advance...

If you can find them I was very satisfied with Nokian Hakkapeliittas.
The Finns know a thing or two about snow. I'm currently running studded
Kumhos and they get the job done too. They're noisy but that's what you
get with an aggressive tread and studs. The temperatures here tend to
hover around 32, warm enough in the daytime to melt, and cold enough at
night to freeze so icy roads are a fact of life.

I run Kenda Klever AT's year round here . They're pretty quiet for an
aggressive tread pattern . We're a no-stud state , so I carry chains for
the front wheels just in case I get caught out in an ice storm .
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Snag

On 12/30/2020 08:56 PM, Snag wrote:
I run Kenda Klever AT's year round here . They're pretty quiet for an
aggressive tread pattern . We're a no-stud state , so I carry chains for
the front wheels just in case I get caught out in an ice storm .

I've hung enough iron I never want to see a set of chains again

On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 22:07:51 -0700, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


I've hung enough iron I never want to see a set of chains again

I'd like to see YOU hung by a chain around your neck ...just to see whether
it would stop you from babbling and gossiping ...which, of course, it won't!
LOL

On 12/30/2020 11:07 PM, rbowman wrote:
On 12/30/2020 08:56 PM, Snag wrote:
Â* I run Kenda Klever AT's year round here . They're pretty quiet for an
aggressive tread pattern . We're a no-stud state , so I carry chains for
the front wheels just in case I get caught out in an ice storm .

I've hung enough iron I never want to see a set of chains again

Being an OTRT I can understand that . My chains have been mounted
exactly one time - a couple of days after they arrived so I knew how to
put them on . If they NEVER come out of the box again I'll be happy .
And if they do , I'll be glad I've got 'em .
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Snag

On 12/31/2020 4:50 AM, Snag wrote:
On 12/30/2020 11:07 PM, rbowman wrote:
On 12/30/2020 08:56 PM, Snag wrote:
Â* I run Kenda Klever AT's year round here . They're pretty quiet for an
aggressive tread pattern . We're a no-stud state , so I carry chains for
the front wheels just in case I get caught out in an ice storm .

I've hung enough iron I never want to see a set of chains again

Â* Being an OTRT I can understand that . My chains have been mounted
exactly one time - a couple of days after they arrived so I knew how to
put them on . If they NEVER come out of the box again I'll be happy .
And if they do , I'll be glad I've got 'em .

My chains are there to meet the legal requirements when driving in the
winter to the WA passes. Chains must be carried in any vehicle, even
AWD. $6 in the middle of the summer at Goodwill.

On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 22:07:51 -0700, rbowman posted for all of us to digest...


On 12/30/2020 08:56 PM, Snag wrote:
I run Kenda Klever AT's year round here . They're pretty quiet for an
aggressive tread pattern . We're a no-stud state , so I carry chains for
the front wheels just in case I get caught out in an ice storm .

I've hung enough iron I never want to see a set of chains again

+1 I would also like to never to see snow or ice again...

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Tekkie

On 12/31/2020 03:04 PM, Tekkie� wrote:

On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 22:07:51 -0700, rbowman posted for all of us to digest...


On 12/30/2020 08:56 PM, Snag wrote:
I run Kenda Klever AT's year round here . They're pretty quiet for an
aggressive tread pattern . We're a no-stud state , so I carry chains for
the front wheels just in case I get caught out in an ice storm .

I've hung enough iron I never want to see a set of chains again

+1 I would also like to never to see snow or ice again...


When you live around N 47.0000 snow and ice is a given. otoh, the
climate discourages the parasites one finds in the southern areas.

On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 19:41:32 -0700, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

If you can find them I was very satisfied with Nokian Hakkapeliittas.

You REALLY love to juggle with words, eh, you wordy, senile gossip? LOL

On 12/30/2020 5:40 PM, Fred wrote:
I currently use Michelin x-ice on my cars and have been happy with their
traction.Â* The terrain here is flat to moderate slope but we be in the
snow-belt.

So what are you using and do you like them?Â* Also, how much should
mounting and balancing cost?

Thanks in advance...

I bought some used X-Ice's for my previous ski-area vehicle, and bought
new ones for My "new" Sienna for my trips to snowboard early in the
summer I bought the van. Those tires make the old fashioned big lug
studded tires look really bad in comparison on snow. I am sure there are
better ones out there. I saw some excellent reviews when searching, but
found the Michelin's for a very good price.

Fred writes:

I currently use Michelin x-ice on my cars and have been happy with
their traction. The terrain here is flat to moderate slope but we be
in the snow-belt.

So what are you using and do you like them? Also, how much should mounting and balancing cost?

Thanks in advance...

I'm in a very hilly part of NJ.
Front wheel drive and regular radials.
That's it. I don't get stuck in the snow and can get up and down the
hills fine.

--
Dan Espen

On 12/30/2020 8:59 PM, Dan Espen wrote:
Fred writes:

I currently use Michelin x-ice on my cars and have been happy with
their traction. The terrain here is flat to moderate slope but we be
in the snow-belt.

So what are you using and do you like them? Also, how much should mounting and balancing cost?

Thanks in advance...

I'm in a very hilly part of NJ.
Front wheel drive and regular radials.
That's it. I don't get stuck in the snow and can get up and down the
hills fine.



That may be, and I used to feel the same way, but the X-Ice tires really
make my van track, steer and stop and go way better than all season
tires or old fashioned snow tires. And no studs to make a racket. You
have to TRY to make them break loose.

On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 20:40:36 -0500, Fred wrote:

I currently use Michelin x-ice on my cars and have been happy with their traction. The terrain here is flat to moderate slope but we be in the
snow-belt.

So what are you using and do you like them? Also, how much should mounting and balancing cost?

Thanks in advance...
Nokian Hakkepillita R3 on the Sorento and the Ranger

On 12/30/2020 9:53 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
Nokian Hakkepillita R3

What's the difference between the R3 and the R2?

On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 22:22:14 -0800, Bob F wrote:

On 12/30/2020 9:53 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
Nokian Hakkepillita R3

What's the difference between the R3 and the R2?
The R3 is just the newer model - slight change in tread pattern and
possibly a tweak to the compound