Clare, when I listen to As It Happens, it seems to have more news about
indigenous people than the US does, and the tone is different too.

Is there a higher percentage of indigenous people in Canada than in the
US?

Are there more in absolute numbers?

As to the tone, the first t hing to notice is the use of indigenous, and
no squabbling about Indians or Native Americans.

Plus the stories in the US are usually about some crisis.. The stories
on As it Happens are usually about a problem -- almost anything that
makes it to news radio is about a problem -- but problems that somehow
leave the indigenous people looking stronger, afaicr

Tonight the story was about how some international competition, the
World Games, did not want the Iroquois lacrosse team to compete because
they ddin't consider the Iroquois a sovereign nation, but 8 countries,
ending with Ireland**, said they would not compete if the Iroquois
didn't, and the sponsor relented. See what I mean about stories that
show them more respect.

**Actually Ireland withdrew, leaving an empty spot.

From another source:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/indigenous/i...ames-1.5717395

I can't remember a story like that from the USA.

On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 03:48:30 -0400, micky
wrote:

Clare, when I listen to As It Happens, it seems to have more news about
indigenous people than the US does, and the tone is different too.
Is there a higher percentage of indigenous people in Canada than in the
US?
Are there more in absolute numbers?
As to the tone, the first t hing to notice is the use of indigenous, and
no squabbling about Indians or Native Americans.
Plus the stories in the US are usually about some crisis.. The stories
on As it Happens are usually about a problem -- almost anything that
makes it to news radio is about a problem -- but problems that somehow
leave the indigenous people looking stronger, afaicr
Tonight the story was about how some international competition, the
World Games, did not want the Iroquois lacrosse team to compete because
they ddin't consider the Iroquois a sovereign nation, but 8 countries,
ending with Ireland**, said they would not compete if the Iroquois
didn't, and the sponsor relented. See what I mean about stories that
show them more respect.
**Actually Ireland withdrew, leaving an empty spot.
From another source:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/indigenous/i...ames-1.5717395
I can't remember a story like that from the USA.


As per Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada

Canada 4.9 % Indigenous = 1.9 m. of pop. 38 m.
USA 1.3 % Native American = 4 m. of 330 m.

Also the Metis are a relatively bigger group in Canada.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%A9tis

Canada is dealing with the fallout of the many decades of atrocities
concerning the Indigenous peoples.

Residential schools :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadi..._school_system

The 60's Scoop :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sixties_Scoop

Systemic racism ; ignoring Treaty Rights ; etc etc

First Nations is also a term used.

John T.

On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 03:48:30 -0400, micky
wrote:

Clare, when I listen to As It Happens, it seems to have more news about
indigenous people than the US does, and the tone is different too.

Is there a higher percentage of indigenous people in Canada than in the
US?

Are there more in absolute numbers?

As to the tone, the first t hing to notice is the use of indigenous, and
no squabbling about Indians or Native Americans.

Plus the stories in the US are usually about some crisis.. The stories
on As it Happens are usually about a problem -- almost anything that
makes it to news radio is about a problem -- but problems that somehow
leave the indigenous people looking stronger, afaicr

Tonight the story was about how some international competition, the
World Games, did not want the Iroquois lacrosse team to compete because
they ddin't consider the Iroquois a sovereign nation, but 8 countries,
ending with Ireland**, said they would not compete if the Iroquois
didn't, and the sponsor relented. See what I mean about stories that
show them more respect.

**Actually Ireland withdrew, leaving an empty spot.

From another source:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/indigenous/i...ames-1.5717395

I can't remember a story like that from the USA.
Like John T said

We have some "problems" too - but I do think we try to handle it
better than the USA does. We are TRYING to give the first nations some
repect - sometimes they try our patience a bit (google Caledonia
protest, for example)

In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 11 Sep 2020 05:21:53 -0400,
wrote:

On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 03:48:30 -0400, micky
wrote:

Clare, when I listen to As It Happens, it seems to have more news about
indigenous people than the US does, and the tone is different too.
Is there a higher percentage of indigenous people in Canada than in the
US?
Are there more in absolute numbers?
As to the tone, the first t hing to notice is the use of indigenous, and
no squabbling about Indians or Native Americans.
Plus the stories in the US are usually about some crisis.. The stories
on As it Happens are usually about a problem -- almost anything that
makes it to news radio is about a problem -- but problems that somehow
leave the indigenous people looking stronger, afaicr
Tonight the story was about how some international competition, the
World Games, did not want the Iroquois lacrosse team to compete because
they ddin't consider the Iroquois a sovereign nation, but 8 countries,
ending with Ireland**, said they would not compete if the Iroquois
didn't, and the sponsor relented. See what I mean about stories that
show them more respect.
**Actually Ireland withdrew, leaving an empty spot.
From another source:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/indigenous/i...ames-1.5717395
I can't remember a story like that from the USA.


As per Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada

Canada 4.9 % Indigenous = 1.9 m. of pop. 38 m.
USA 1.3 % Native American = 4 m. of 330 m.

That's a lot more in percent, and not so much less in numbers.

Also the Metis are a relatively bigger group in Canada.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%A9tis

I never heard of Metis. Maybe you mean the NYC baseball team?

Oh, the url says something else.

Canada is dealing with the fallout of the many decades of atrocities
concerning the Indigenous peoples.

Residential schools :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadi..._school_system

The 60's Scoop :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sixties_Scoop

Terrible

Systemic racism ; ignoring Treaty Rights ; etc etc

First Nations is also a term used.

John T.

But Canada seems to be trying, and somehow the tone seemed better, at
least on As It Happens.

I read Clare's reply too, but it's not nearby anymore and I can't
remember details.

Thank you both.

Canada is dealing with the fallout of the many decades of atrocities
concerning the Indigenous peoples.
Residential schools :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadi..._school_system
The 60's Scoop :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sixties_Scoop
Systemic racism ; ignoring Treaty Rights ; etc etc
John T.


But Canada seems to be trying, and somehow the tone seemed better, at
least on As It Happens.
Thank you both.



Our first Prime Minister " The Father Of Confederation " -
Sir John A. MacDonald has become the lightning rod
for many recent protests - similar to the Confederate monuments
in the USA :

https://tinyurl.com/yyv5plrq

This statue has been removed now - it's supposed to
eventually find an indoor museum location where the
story of the atrocities can be told alongside.
John T.

On Sun, 13 Sep 2020 06:28:24 -0400, wrote:



Canada is dealing with the fallout of the many decades of atrocities
concerning the Indigenous peoples.
Residential schools :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadi..._school_system
The 60's Scoop :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sixties_Scoop
Systemic racism ; ignoring Treaty Rights ; etc etc
John T.


But Canada seems to be trying, and somehow the tone seemed better, at
least on As It Happens.
Thank you both.



Our first Prime Minister " The Father Of Confederation " -
Sir John A. MacDonald has become the lightning rod
for many recent protests - similar to the Confederate monuments
in the USA :

https://tinyurl.com/yyv5plrq

This statue has been removed now - it's supposed to
eventually find an indoor museum location where the
story of the atrocities can be told alongside.
John T.

Doing a little looking, it appears most of your Indigenous people are
out west, similar to here, until they discovered casinos, then
"Indians" started crawling out of the woodwork in the North East, even
when their tribal connections were dubious at best.

On Sun, 13 Sep 2020 16:05:47 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 13 Sep 2020 06:28:24 -0400, wrote:



Canada is dealing with the fallout of the many decades of atrocities
concerning the Indigenous peoples.
Residential schools :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadi..._school_system
The 60's Scoop :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sixties_Scoop
Systemic racism ; ignoring Treaty Rights ; etc etc
John T.


But Canada seems to be trying, and somehow the tone seemed better, at
least on As It Happens.
Thank you both.



Our first Prime Minister " The Father Of Confederation " -
Sir John A. MacDonald has become the lightning rod
for many recent protests - similar to the Confederate monuments
in the USA :

https://tinyurl.com/yyv5plrq

This statue has been removed now - it's supposed to
eventually find an indoor museum location where the
story of the atrocities can be told alongside.
John T.

Doing a little looking, it appears most of your Indigenous people are
out west, similar to here, until they discovered casinos, then
"Indians" started crawling out of the woodwork in the North East, even
when their tribal connections were dubious at best.


Nope.
You are not even close to describing Canada's situation.
.... where have you been " doing a little looking " ?

The stereo-types that you are describing -
are the root of the problem - big time.

Easy lob-bombs though - but totally ignorant.

John T.

On Sun, 13 Sep 2020 18:57:55 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 13 Sep 2020 16:05:47 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 13 Sep 2020 06:28:24 -0400, wrote:



Canada is dealing with the fallout of the many decades of atrocities
concerning the Indigenous peoples.
Residential schools :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadi..._school_system
The 60's Scoop :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sixties_Scoop
Systemic racism ; ignoring Treaty Rights ; etc etc
John T.


But Canada seems to be trying, and somehow the tone seemed better, at
least on As It Happens.
Thank you both.



Our first Prime Minister " The Father Of Confederation " -
Sir John A. MacDonald has become the lightning rod
for many recent protests - similar to the Confederate monuments
in the USA :

https://tinyurl.com/yyv5plrq

This statue has been removed now - it's supposed to
eventually find an indoor museum location where the
story of the atrocities can be told alongside.
John T.

Doing a little looking, it appears most of your Indigenous people are
out west, similar to here, until they discovered casinos, then
"Indians" started crawling out of the woodwork in the North East, even
when their tribal connections were dubious at best.


Nope.
You are not even close to describing Canada's situation.
... where have you been " doing a little looking " ?

The stereo-types that you are describing -
are the root of the problem - big time.

Easy lob-bombs though - but totally ignorant.

Making **** up? That doesn't sound like the Fretwell I know. Oh, wait, that
sounds *exactly* like the Fretwell I know.

On Sun, 13 Sep 2020 18:57:55 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 13 Sep 2020 16:05:47 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 13 Sep 2020 06:28:24 -0400, wrote:



Canada is dealing with the fallout of the many decades of atrocities
concerning the Indigenous peoples.
Residential schools :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadi..._school_system
The 60's Scoop :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sixties_Scoop
Systemic racism ; ignoring Treaty Rights ; etc etc
John T.


But Canada seems to be trying, and somehow the tone seemed better, at
least on As It Happens.
Thank you both.



Our first Prime Minister " The Father Of Confederation " -
Sir John A. MacDonald has become the lightning rod
for many recent protests - similar to the Confederate monuments
in the USA :

https://tinyurl.com/yyv5plrq

This statue has been removed now - it's supposed to
eventually find an indoor museum location where the
story of the atrocities can be told alongside.
John T.

Doing a little looking, it appears most of your Indigenous people are
out west, similar to here, until they discovered casinos, then
"Indians" started crawling out of the woodwork in the North East, even
when their tribal connections were dubious at best.


Nope.
You are not even close to describing Canada's situation.
... where have you been " doing a little looking " ?

The stereo-types that you are describing -
are the root of the problem - big time.

Easy lob-bombs though - but totally ignorant.

John T.

I just looked at the percentages of indigenous in the various
provinces and they seem to me more heavily weighted out west. Did you
see it another way?
As for our North Eastern "Indians" they stayed out of sight for the
most part for the last 200 years and popped up when the casinos did.

On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 00:12:46 -0500, Jim Joyce
wrote:

On Sun, 13 Sep 2020 18:57:55 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 13 Sep 2020 16:05:47 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 13 Sep 2020 06:28:24 -0400, wrote:



Canada is dealing with the fallout of the many decades of atrocities
concerning the Indigenous peoples.
Residential schools :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadi..._school_system
The 60's Scoop :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sixties_Scoop
Systemic racism ; ignoring Treaty Rights ; etc etc
John T.


But Canada seems to be trying, and somehow the tone seemed better, at
least on As It Happens.
Thank you both.



Our first Prime Minister " The Father Of Confederation " -
Sir John A. MacDonald has become the lightning rod
for many recent protests - similar to the Confederate monuments
in the USA :

https://tinyurl.com/yyv5plrq

This statue has been removed now - it's supposed to
eventually find an indoor museum location where the
story of the atrocities can be told alongside.
John T.

Doing a little looking, it appears most of your Indigenous people are
out west, similar to here, until they discovered casinos, then
"Indians" started crawling out of the woodwork in the North East, even
when their tribal connections were dubious at best.


Nope.
You are not even close to describing Canada's situation.
... where have you been " doing a little looking " ?

The stereo-types that you are describing -
are the root of the problem - big time.

Easy lob-bombs though - but totally ignorant.

Making **** up? That doesn't sound like the Fretwell I know. Oh, wait, that
sounds *exactly* like the Fretwell I know.


Yeah I made this up.

https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/...opulation.html

You seem to be the fact averse person here but you are obnoxious
enough to make up for it. Are you sure you are not a Trumper?

On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 00:12:46 -0500, Jim Joyce
wrote:

On Sun, 13 Sep 2020 18:57:55 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 13 Sep 2020 16:05:47 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 13 Sep 2020 06:28:24 -0400, wrote:



Canada is dealing with the fallout of the many decades of atrocities
concerning the Indigenous peoples.
Residential schools :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadi..._school_system
The 60's Scoop :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sixties_Scoop
Systemic racism ; ignoring Treaty Rights ; etc etc
John T.


But Canada seems to be trying, and somehow the tone seemed better, at
least on As It Happens.
Thank you both.



Our first Prime Minister " The Father Of Confederation " -
Sir John A. MacDonald has become the lightning rod
for many recent protests - similar to the Confederate monuments
in the USA :

https://tinyurl.com/yyv5plrq

This statue has been removed now - it's supposed to
eventually find an indoor museum location where the
story of the atrocities can be told alongside.
John T.

Doing a little looking, it appears most of your Indigenous people are
out west, similar to here, until they discovered casinos, then
"Indians" started crawling out of the woodwork in the North East, even
when their tribal connections were dubious at best.


Nope.
You are not even close to describing Canada's situation.
... where have you been " doing a little looking " ?

The stereo-types that you are describing -
are the root of the problem - big time.

Easy lob-bombs though - but totally ignorant.

Making **** up? That doesn't sound like the Fretwell I know. Oh, wait, that
sounds *exactly* like the Fretwell I know.
But the bozo in the bozo-bin where he belongs - thankfuklly I haven't
had to bother with his drivel for the last few months unless one of
you guys responds to it.

On 09/14/2020 11:20 AM, wrote:
As for our North Eastern "Indians" they stayed out of sight for the
most part for the last 200 years and popped up when the casinos did.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinzua_Dam#Displacements

They were just getting ****ed, as usual.

On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 19:18:24 -0600, rbowman
wrote:

On 09/14/2020 11:20 AM, wrote:
As for our North Eastern "Indians" they stayed out of sight for the
most part for the last 200 years and popped up when the casinos did.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinzua_Dam#Displacements

They were just getting ****ed, as usual.

Read a little about the Pequot. They were pretty much extinct until
the casino opportunity opened up.

On 09/14/2020 07:36 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 19:18:24 -0600, rbowman
wrote:

On 09/14/2020 11:20 AM, wrote:
As for our North Eastern "Indians" they stayed out of sight for the
most part for the last 200 years and popped up when the casinos did.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinzua_Dam#Displacements

They were just getting ****ed, as usual.

Read a little about the Pequot. They were pretty much extinct until
the casino opportunity opened up.


The last of the Mohegans? Going down the DuckDuckGo rabbit hole I found

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schagh...own),_New_York

The Schaghticoke fair was on Labor Day and one of the first fairs in the
area. Like a lot of the names in the area I knew it was of Indian
derivation but I didn't know which ones.

The local Indians haven't had too much luck with casinos. Slots, video
poker, and keno on every corner makes driving to the rez unattractive. I
think there are six live poker rooms in town if that floats your boat. I
don't know about dice.

On Friday, September 11, 2020 at 3:48:56 AM UTC-4, micky wrote:
Clare, when I listen to As It Happens, it seems to have more news about
indigenous people than the US does, and the tone is different too.

Is there a higher percentage of indigenous people in Canada than in the
US?

Are there more in absolute numbers?

As to the tone, the first t hing to notice is the use of indigenous, and
no squabbling about Indians or Native Americans.

Plus the stories in the US are usually about some crisis.. The stories
on As it Happens are usually about a problem -- almost anything that
makes it to news radio is about a problem -- but problems that somehow
leave the indigenous people looking stronger, afaicr

Tonight the story was about how some international competition, the
World Games, did not want the Iroquois lacrosse team to compete because
they ddin't consider the Iroquois a sovereign nation, but 8 countries,
ending with Ireland**, said they would not compete if the Iroquois
didn't, and the sponsor relented. See what I mean about stories that
show them more respect.

**Actually Ireland withdrew, leaving an empty spot.

From another source:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/indigenous/i...ames-1.5717395

I can't remember a story like that from the USA.


Um... that's messed up I must have missed that episode. Not letting Native Americans play lacrosse? Do they even know history?

nate

On 09/15/2020 01:23 PM, N8N wrote:
On Friday, September 11, 2020 at 3:48:56 AM UTC-4, micky wrote:
Clare, when I listen to As It Happens, it seems to have more news about
indigenous people than the US does, and the tone is different too.

Is there a higher percentage of indigenous people in Canada than in the
US?

Are there more in absolute numbers?

As to the tone, the first t hing to notice is the use of indigenous, and
no squabbling about Indians or Native Americans.

Plus the stories in the US are usually about some crisis.. The stories
on As it Happens are usually about a problem -- almost anything that
makes it to news radio is about a problem -- but problems that somehow
leave the indigenous people looking stronger, afaicr

Tonight the story was about how some international competition, the
World Games, did not want the Iroquois lacrosse team to compete because
they ddin't consider the Iroquois a sovereign nation, but 8 countries,
ending with Ireland**, said they would not compete if the Iroquois
didn't, and the sponsor relented. See what I mean about stories that
show them more respect.

**Actually Ireland withdrew, leaving an empty spot.

From another source:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/indigenous/i...ames-1.5717395

I can't remember a story like that from the USA.


Um... that's messed up I must have missed that episode. Not letting Native Americans play lacrosse? Do they even know history?


What would be interesting is the Iroquois hurling with the Irish. The
roots are very similar. Hundreds of players going on for days without
much in the way of rules or social niceties. A hurling pitch is a little
bigger than a lacrosse field.