While trying to get two portable butane tanks filled at a different place than I usually do, the employee was looking intently at the tanks. I asked him, what are you doing? He was looking for the manufacture date on the tanks. One was four years out of date and couldn't be filled, the other will be out of date in four years. According to him portable butane tanks only have a life of 12 years before they have to be replaced. They're a 20# and a 40# tanks, not the little ones for lanterns and portable stoves.

He was going to fill that one tank and I told him to hell with that, I'll just take them where I usually go, they never check the date there, and they didn't, when I took them to my regular place.

Who knew they're only good for 12 years? That seems ridiculous to me. I didn't want to ask at the place I usually go to, in case they didn't want to fill them. My tanks are fairly new looking.

On 8/22/20 5:14 PM, Dogma wrote:
While trying to get two portable butane tanks filled at a different
place than I usually do, the employee was looking intently at the tanks.
I asked him, what are you doing? He was looking for the manufacture date
on the tanks. One was four years out of date and couldn't be filled, the
other will be out of date in four years. According to him portable
butane tanks only have a life of 12 years before they have to be
replaced. They're a 20# and a 40# tanks, not the little ones for
lanterns and portable stoves.

He was going to fill that one tank and I told him to hell with that,
I'll just take them where I usually go, they never check the date there,
and they didn't, when I took them to my regular place.

Who knew they're only good for 12 years? That seems ridiculous to me. I
didn't want to ask at the place I usually go to, in case they didn't
want to fill them. My tanks are fairly new looking.


Actually it is 5 or 10 years, depending.

See
https://www.phmsa.dot.gov/sites/phms...pane_en_v3.pdf

"Propane cylinders must be requalified or replaced every 5 or 10 years
depending on the cylinder type, condition, and previous requalification
method. (Ref. 49 CFR § 180.205(d) and 180.209(e).)"

On Sat, 22 Aug 2020 17:25:54 -0400, posted for all of us
to digest...


On 8/22/20 5:14 PM, Dogma wrote:
While trying to get two portable butane tanks filled at a different
place than I usually do, the employee was looking intently at the tanks.
I asked him, what are you doing? He was looking for the manufacture date
on the tanks. One was four years out of date and couldn't be filled, the
other will be out of date in four years. According to him portable
butane tanks only have a life of 12 years before they have to be
replaced. They're a 20# and a 40# tanks, not the little ones for
lanterns and portable stoves.

He was going to fill that one tank and I told him to hell with that,
I'll just take them where I usually go, they never check the date there,
and they didn't, when I took them to my regular place.

Who knew they're only good for 12 years? That seems ridiculous to me. I
didn't want to ask at the place I usually go to, in case they didn't
want to fill them. My tanks are fairly new looking.


Actually it is 5 or 10 years, depending.

See
https://www.phmsa.dot.gov/sites/phms...pane_en_v3.pdf

"Propane cylinders must be requalified or replaced every 5 or 10 years
depending on the cylinder type, condition, and previous requalification
method. (Ref. 49 CFR § 180.205(d) and 180.209(e).)"

I believe he was citing *butane* tanks.

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Tekkie

wrote:
On 8/22/20 5:14 PM, Dogma wrote:
While trying to get two portable butane tanks filled at a different
place than I usually do, the employee was looking intently at the tanks.
I asked him, what are you doing? He was looking for the manufacture date
on the tanks. One was four years out of date and couldn't be filled, the
other will be out of date in four years. According to him portable
butane tanks only have a life of 12 years before they have to be
replaced. They're a 20# and a 40# tanks, not the little ones for
lanterns and portable stoves.

He was going to fill that one tank and I told him to hell with that,
I'll just take them where I usually go, they never check the date there,
and they didn't, when I took them to my regular place.

Who knew they're only good for 12 years? That seems ridiculous to me. I
didn't want to ask at the place I usually go to, in case they didn't
want to fill them. My tanks are fairly new looking.

Actually it is 5 or 10 years, depending.
See
https://www.phmsa.dot.gov/sites/phms...pane_en_v3.pdf
"Propane cylinders must be requalified or replaced every 5 or 10 years
depending on the cylinder type, condition, and previous requalification
method. (Ref. 49 CFR § 180.205(d) and 180.209(e).)"

Well I guess I can always exchange the tanks at Home Depot or some other place like that.

On 08/22/2020 03:34 PM, Tekkie� wrote:

On Sat, 22 Aug 2020 17:25:54 -0400, posted for all of us
to digest...


On 8/22/20 5:14 PM, Dogma wrote:
While trying to get two portable butane tanks filled at a different
place than I usually do, the employee was looking intently at the tanks.
I asked him, what are you doing? He was looking for the manufacture date
on the tanks. One was four years out of date and couldn't be filled, the
other will be out of date in four years. According to him portable
butane tanks only have a life of 12 years before they have to be
replaced. They're a 20# and a 40# tanks, not the little ones for
lanterns and portable stoves.

He was going to fill that one tank and I told him to hell with that,
I'll just take them where I usually go, they never check the date there,
and they didn't, when I took them to my regular place.

Who knew they're only good for 12 years? That seems ridiculous to me. I
didn't want to ask at the place I usually go to, in case they didn't
want to fill them. My tanks are fairly new looking.


Actually it is 5 or 10 years, depending.

See
https://www.phmsa.dot.gov/sites/phms...pane_en_v3.pdf

"Propane cylinders must be requalified or replaced every 5 or 10 years
depending on the cylinder type, condition, and previous requalification
method. (Ref. 49 CFR § 180.205(d) and 180.209(e).)"

I believe he was citing *butane* tanks.


True, which made me curious. I'm not sure anyone refills butane tanks
around here although there are plenty of propane options. Butane has
some advantages but I don't think convenience is one of them.

On 8/22/20 5:14 PM, Dogma wrote:
While trying to get two portable butane tanks filled at a different
place than I usually do, the employee was looking intently at the tanks.
I asked him, what are you doing? He was looking for the manufacture date
on the tanks. One was four years out of date and couldn't be filled, the
other will be out of date in four years. According to him portable
butane tanks only have a life of 12 years before they have to be
replaced. They're a 20# and a 40# tanks, not the little ones for
lanterns and portable stoves.

He was going to fill that one tank and I told him to hell with that,
I'll just take them where I usually go, they never check the date there,
and they didn't, when I took them to my regular place.

Who knew they're only good for 12 years? That seems ridiculous to me. I
didn't want to ask at the place I usually go to, in case they didn't
want to fill them. My tanks are fairly new looking.

Hey, no problem....as long as your fire insurance is in force with
coverage limits high enough to cover rebuilding costs ;-)

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On Sat, 22 Aug 2020 16:41:39 -0500, "Dogma"
wrote:



wrote:
On 8/22/20 5:14 PM, Dogma wrote:
While trying to get two portable butane tanks filled at a different
place than I usually do, the employee was looking intently at the tanks.
I asked him, what are you doing? He was looking for the manufacture date
on the tanks. One was four years out of date and couldn't be filled, the
other will be out of date in four years. According to him portable
butane tanks only have a life of 12 years before they have to be
replaced. They're a 20# and a 40# tanks, not the little ones for
lanterns and portable stoves.

He was going to fill that one tank and I told him to hell with that,
I'll just take them where I usually go, they never check the date there,
and they didn't, when I took them to my regular place.

Who knew they're only good for 12 years? That seems ridiculous to me. I
didn't want to ask at the place I usually go to, in case they didn't
want to fill them. My tanks are fairly new looking.

Actually it is 5 or 10 years, depending.
See
https://www.phmsa.dot.gov/sites/phms...pane_en_v3.pdf
"Propane cylinders must be requalified or replaced every 5 or 10 years
depending on the cylinder type, condition, and previous requalification
method. (Ref. 49 CFR § 180.205(d) and 180.209(e).)"

Well I guess I can always exchange the tanks at Home Depot or some other place like that.

Walmart. They will even take a rusty old "Pre OPD" cylinder and swap
it for $15. Nobody seems to look at anything except that it looks the
right size to fit in the locker.

On 8/22/20 10:17 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Aug 2020 16:41:39 -0500, "Dogma"
wrote:


wrote:
On 8/22/20 5:14 PM, Dogma wrote:
While trying to get two portable butane tanks filled at a different
place than I usually do, the employee was looking intently at the tanks.
I asked him, what are you doing? He was looking for the manufacture date
on the tanks. One was four years out of date and couldn't be filled, the
other will be out of date in four years. According to him portable
butane tanks only have a life of 12 years before they have to be
replaced. They're a 20# and a 40# tanks, not the little ones for
lanterns and portable stoves.

He was going to fill that one tank and I told him to hell with that,
I'll just take them where I usually go, they never check the date there,
and they didn't, when I took them to my regular place.

Who knew they're only good for 12 years? That seems ridiculous to me. I
didn't want to ask at the place I usually go to, in case they didn't
want to fill them. My tanks are fairly new looking.

Actually it is 5 or 10 years, depending.
See
https://www.phmsa.dot.gov/sites/phms...pane_en_v3.pdf
"Propane cylinders must be requalified or replaced every 5 or 10 years
depending on the cylinder type, condition, and previous requalification
method. (Ref. 49 CFR § 180.205(d) and 180.209(e).)"
Well I guess I can always exchange the tanks at Home Depot or some other place like that.
Walmart. They will even take a rusty old "Pre OPD" cylinder and swap
it for $15. Nobody seems to look at anything except that it looks the
right size to fit in the locker.


Most retail employees are suffering from mask-induced hypoxia.

Alexandria Omar-Whitmer writes:

mask-induced hypoxia

Another idiot.

Consider this, maybe your simple mind can grasp the details,
I know it's complicated for you.

The mask holds around a cubic inch of exhaled air.
Your lungs push pull about 250 cubic inches of air with each breath.

Gee, simple isn't it?

Probably not for you though.

--
Dan Espen

On 08/23/2020 05:59 AM, Dan Espen wrote:
Alexandria Omar-Whitmer writes:

mask-induced hypoxia

Another idiot.

Consider this, maybe your simple mind can grasp the details,
I know it's complicated for you.

The mask holds around a cubic inch of exhaled air.
Your lungs push pull about 250 cubic inches of air with each breath.

Gee, simple isn't it?

Probably not for you though.


You do know the normal tidal volume for an adult is 500 ml, don't you?
You do know 1 liter is 61.02 cubic inches, don't you?
You do know 61 time .5 is 30.5, don't you?
Another ****ing fact challenged idiot spouts off.

On 8/22/2020 5:41 PM, Dogma wrote:


wrote:
On 8/22/20 5:14 PM, Dogma wrote:
While trying to get two portable butane tanks filled at a different
place than I usually do, the employee was looking intently at the
tanks. I asked him, what are you doing? He was looking for the
manufacture date on the tanks. One was four years out of date and
couldn't be filled, the other will be out of date in four years.
According to him portable butane tanks only have a life of 12 years
before they have to be replaced. They're a 20# and a 40# tanks, not
the little ones for lanterns and portable stoves.
He was going to fill that one tank and I told him to hell with
that, I'll just take them where I usually go, they never check the
date there, and they didn't, when I took them to my regular place.
Who knew they're only good for 12 years? That seems ridiculous to
me. I didn't want to ask at the place I usually go to, in case they
didn't want to fill them. My tanks are fairly new looking.
Actually it is 5 or 10 years, depending.
See
https://www.phmsa.dot.gov/sites/phms...pane_en_v3.pdf

"Propane cylinders must be requalified or replaced every 5 or 10 years
depending on the cylinder type, condition, and previous
requalification method. (Ref. 49 CFR § 180.205(d) and 180.209(e).)"

Well I guess I can always exchange the tanks at Home Depot or some other
place like that.

Around here, I note that swapping for refilled propane tanks at Walmart
is even cheaper than getting the old tank refilled.

In article , says...

Around here, I note that swapping for refilled propane tanks at Walmart
is even cheaper than getting the old tank refilled.



Have you noticed the ammount of propane in the tanks ?

Around here they only put about 15 pounds in the 20 pound tanks at the
change out stations like Blue Rhino.

I think some I bought at Tractor Supply a year ago was around 50 cents
a pound..

On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 13:37:10 -0400, Ralph Mowery
wrote:

In article , says...

Around here, I note that swapping for refilled propane tanks at Walmart
is even cheaper than getting the old tank refilled.



Have you noticed the ammount of propane in the tanks ?

Around here they only put about 15 pounds in the 20 pound tanks at the
change out stations like Blue Rhino.

I think some I bought at Tractor Supply a year ago was around 50 cents
a pound..

could still be the cheapest war to get a non-timed out tank though -
but be sure to check the date on the new tank to be sure.

In article ,
says...

could still be the cheapest war to get a non-timed out tank though -
but be sure to check the date on the new tank to be sure.



Yes, if you have a tank that is expired then take it in for an exchange.

It may cost you $ 5 or $ 10 more for the propane, but the tanks I bought
new a year or so ago were just under $ 35 empty. I think it was just
under $ 100 for 2 new tanks with 20 pounds of propane in each.

On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 12:19:50 -0400, Frank wrote:

On 8/22/2020 5:41 PM, Dogma wrote:


wrote:
On 8/22/20 5:14 PM, Dogma wrote:
While trying to get two portable butane tanks filled at a different
place than I usually do, the employee was looking intently at the
tanks. I asked him, what are you doing? He was looking for the
manufacture date on the tanks. One was four years out of date and
couldn't be filled, the other will be out of date in four years.
According to him portable butane tanks only have a life of 12 years
before they have to be replaced. They're a 20# and a 40# tanks, not
the little ones for lanterns and portable stoves.
He was going to fill that one tank and I told him to hell with
that, I'll just take them where I usually go, they never check the
date there, and they didn't, when I took them to my regular place.
Who knew they're only good for 12 years? That seems ridiculous to
me. I didn't want to ask at the place I usually go to, in case they
didn't want to fill them. My tanks are fairly new looking.
Actually it is 5 or 10 years, depending.
See
https://www.phmsa.dot.gov/sites/phms...pane_en_v3.pdf

"Propane cylinders must be requalified or replaced every 5 or 10 years
depending on the cylinder type, condition, and previous
requalification method. (Ref. 49 CFR § 180.205(d) and 180.209(e).)"

Well I guess I can always exchange the tanks at Home Depot or some other
place like that.

Around here, I note that swapping for refilled propane tanks at Walmart
is even cheaper than getting the old tank refilled.

Just bear in mind a Blue Rhino only has 15 pounds of gas in it.

On 8/23/2020 1:37 PM, Ralph Mowery wrote:
In article , says...

Around here, I note that swapping for refilled propane tanks at Walmart
is even cheaper than getting the old tank refilled.



Have you noticed the ammount of propane in the tanks ?

Around here they only put about 15 pounds in the 20 pound tanks at the
change out stations like Blue Rhino.

I think some I bought at Tractor Supply a year ago was around 50 cents
a pound..


Yes and that is annoying but it is cheaper enough to make up for that.

replying to Dogma, Jen wrote:
From where I have read, Butane tanks do have expiry date (not butane) and when
I purchased, they did say it lasts for 5 to 10 years post you open it. And at
per your usage the expiry depends. If your cartridges are working just fine -
it doesn't have any rust or do not seal the valve, then you can use it till
whenever that happens.

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