On 7/7/2020 11:19 AM, Bod wrote:
On 07/07/2020 16:51, Muggles wrote:
On 7/6/2020 6:11 PM, FromTheRafters wrote:
Muggles expressed precisely :
On 7/6/2020 9:54 AM, Frank wrote:
On 7/5/2020 2:56 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 7/5/2020 9:13 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 5 Jul 2020 12:28:41 +0100, Bod wrote:

World sees record rise of 212,326 coronavirus cases in 24 hours



More testing* =* more cases.

More cases** with* fewer sick & dying* =* more nothing burger.

I'm not sure you're helping your own arguement* ..** :-)

*** John T.


EXACTLY!

It is not a nothing burger and it is serious but it is getting under
control.


Liberal press talks about more cases but since less are dying they are
mum about that.* it does not fit their narrative.


They seem surprised more cases are found, but they forget that more
people are also being tested, too, so it's reasonable to conclude that
more cases will be found.


They didn't forget, they just know more about it than you do.


Funny thing is they don't tell the public that those additional cases
are due to them TESTING more people.* OH, but wait ... it just means
they can scare more people by leaving out that critical piece of
information.

How do you think that China was so successful in reducing Covid 19 so
quickly?
It was because of extensive testing.


You REALLY believe anything China says?

--
Maggie

On 7/7/2020 11:25 AM, Bod wrote:
On 07/07/2020 17:24, Muggles wrote:
On 7/7/2020 9:50 AM, Bod wrote:
On 07/07/2020 15:41, Muggles wrote:
On 7/6/2020 12:02 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 10:05:15 -0500, Muggles
wrote:

On 7/6/2020 9:54 AM, Frank wrote:

Liberal press talks about more cases but since less are dying
they are
mum about that.Â* it does not fit their narrative.


They seem surprised more cases are found, but they forget that more
people are also being tested, too, so it's reasonable to conclude
that
more cases will be found.

The percentage of positives are pretty high too. That just proves, the
virus isn't going anywhere and we can control the spread if we all
live under self imposed house arrest but as soon as we stick our head
up, it will be there.
The only long term fix is herd immunity.
BTW how is Sweden doing?


I'm not putting myself under house arrest ... hahaÂ* I kind of feel
sorry
for them. They're so scared.Â* It's just another part of the world out
there that can make you sick if you're not healthy.


I assume that you are fairly old, you also have asthma, this puts you in
a high risk category so I would have thought that you would be more
sensible and take extra precautions.


I'm not fairly old, and I don't have asthma.

I thought that you said you couldn't breathe with a mask on?


You don't have to have asthma to not be able to breath through a mask.

--
Maggie

On 07/07/2020 17:26, Muggles wrote:
On 7/7/2020 11:19 AM, Bod wrote:
On 07/07/2020 16:51, Muggles wrote:
On 7/6/2020 6:11 PM, FromTheRafters wrote:
Muggles expressed precisely :
On 7/6/2020 9:54 AM, Frank wrote:
On 7/5/2020 2:56 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 7/5/2020 9:13 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 5 Jul 2020 12:28:41 +0100, Bod wrote:

World sees record rise of 212,326 coronavirus cases in 24 hours



More testingÂ* =Â* more cases.

More casesÂ*Â* withÂ* fewer sick & dyingÂ* =Â* more nothing burger.

I'm not sure you're helping your own arguementÂ* ..Â*Â* :-)

Â*Â*Â* John T.


EXACTLY!

It is not a nothing burger and it is serious but it is getting under
control.


Liberal press talks about more cases but since less are dying they are
mum about that.Â* it does not fit their narrative.


They seem surprised more cases are found, but they forget that more
people are also being tested, too, so it's reasonable to conclude that
more cases will be found.


They didn't forget, they just know more about it than you do.


Funny thing is they don't tell the public that those additional cases
are due to them TESTING more people.Â* OH, but wait ... it just means
they can scare more people by leaving out that critical piece of
information.

How do you think that China was so successful in reducing Covid 19 so
quickly?
It was because of extensive testing.


You REALLY believe anything China says?

Ok: Whats Behind South Koreas COVID-19 Exceptionalism?
Seven weeks ago, South Korea and the U.S. had the same number of virus
deaths. Today, South Korea has fewer than 300, and the U.S. has more
than 70,000.

South Korean public-health officials recognized the necessity of early
testing and the importance of isolating new patients to prevent
secondary infections.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...secret/611215/

On 07/07/2020 17:29, Muggles wrote:
On 7/7/2020 11:25 AM, Bod wrote:
On 07/07/2020 17:24, Muggles wrote:
On 7/7/2020 9:50 AM, Bod wrote:
On 07/07/2020 15:41, Muggles wrote:
On 7/6/2020 12:02 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 10:05:15 -0500, Muggles
wrote:

On 7/6/2020 9:54 AM, Frank wrote:

Liberal press talks about more cases but since less are dying
they are
mum about that.Â* it does not fit their narrative.


They seem surprised more cases are found, but they forget that more
people are also being tested, too, so it's reasonable to conclude
that
more cases will be found.

The percentage of positives are pretty high too. That just proves, the
virus isn't going anywhere and we can control the spread if we all
live under self imposed house arrest but as soon as we stick our head
up, it will be there.
The only long term fix is herd immunity.
BTW how is Sweden doing?


I'm not putting myself under house arrest ... hahaÂ* I kind of feel
sorry
for them. They're so scared.Â* It's just another part of the world out
there that can make you sick if you're not healthy.


I assume that you are fairly old, you also have asthma, this puts you in
a high risk category so I would have thought that you would be more
sensible and take extra precautions.


I'm not fairly old, and I don't have asthma.

I thought that you said you couldn't breathe with a mask on?


You don't have to have asthma to not be able to breath through a mask.

I've never heard anyone say that before.

On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 15:38:16 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote:



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On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 10:36:33 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote:



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On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 12:40:50 -0400, Neil Kelly
wrote:

On 7/6/2020 12:10 PM, Bob F wrote:
On 7/6/2020 7:54 AM, Frank wrote:
On 7/5/2020 2:56 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 7/5/2020 9:13 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 5 Jul 2020 12:28:41 +0100, Bod
wrote:

World sees record rise of 212,326 coronavirus cases in 24 hours



More testing = more cases.

More cases with fewer sick & dying = more nothing burger.

I'm not sure you're helping your own arguement .. :-)

John T.


EXACTLY!


It is not a nothing burger and it is serious but it is getting under
control.

Liberal press talks about more cases but since less are dying they
are
mum about that. it does not fit their narrative.

Tell Texas, Florida and Arizona that.
They seem to have significant concerns. Darned Repub states. They make
such a big deal of a nothingburger.


They did more testing so they discovered more infected people. Duh!


There really are more cases here but they are mostly young people who
are not likely to die. Last week they were on the news talking about
an 18 year old girl who died but they profiled her tonight. She was
about 200 pounds with cancer and an auto immune disease. Not exactly
what they wanted us to think last week.
The representative from both hospital conglomerates (almost a dozen
facilities between them) say the majority of the beds, including the
ICUs are not covid patients., They are those who were ducking other
procedures until the crisis was over. Surprise, it's back ;-)

The strangest thing is the insane mask rules they are pushing. OK you
can go in a bar if it is part of a restaurant. (Outback, Chilis etc).
You need a mask on when you walk in but as soon as you sit down, you
can take it off. If you are walking around holding a drink you don't
need it but if you don't take your drink to the bathroom you have to
put your mask on.
Even assuming all of that makes sense to you, how much are you
handling that filthy mask, right before you eat?

The only way I am wearing a mask is if the business gives me a new one
straight from the box and I am chucking it in the trash on my way out.
My only question is where do I keep that mask while I am eating? On
the table with the food? Yummy.

Only a fool goes to bars or restaurants currently.

Kissy face bars, I agree but I have been in two restaurants
that seemed to be doing pretty good at spacing people out

Its very far from clear that that is actually any use.
https://www.abc.net.au/radionational...irus-/12144242

and sanitizing the spaces.

Useless with aerosols and stupid to be taking
the risk with something as trivial as eating
out with so much of the virus around.

No communal menus, condiments or other table litter.

Useless with aerosols and stupid to be taking
the risk with something as trivial as eating
out with so much of the virus around.

And pity about what the kitchen staff put on the food etc.

I felt like it was as safe as carrying food out of that same kitchen.

More fool you with aerosols.

I still have no huge desire to go again tho.

And it would be completely stupid to do that.

It really looks like the bars that are having the problem are the
classic "meet" markets where people go to get close to someone.

That's bull**** too.

The band is loud and you are screaming
in someone's face just to be heard.

It isnt just with those.

At that point you might as well just let them spit in your mouth.

Pity about the aerosols.

I haven't been to that sort of place for 35 years except with
my wife and we tried to avoid the crowd jammed up at the
bar. A quick drink, a spin around the dance floor and out.

Makes no sense to go there at all with this virus around.

Same with barbers.

Stay there quivering under the bed my friend. You will be safe. Just
don't answer the door.

On Tue, 07 Jul 2020 06:13:10 -0400, FromTheRafters
wrote:

on 7/7/2020, supposed :
On Mon, 06 Jul 2020 19:09:53 -0400, FromTheRafters
wrote:

Frank explained :
On 7/5/2020 2:56 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 7/5/2020 9:13 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 5 Jul 2020 12:28:41 +0100, Bod wrote:

World sees record rise of 212,326 coronavirus cases in 24 hours



More testing = more cases.

More cases with fewer sick & dying = more nothing burger.

I'm not sure you're helping your own arguement .. :-)

John T.


EXACTLY!


It is not a nothing burger and it is serious but it is getting under
control.

Liberal press talks about more cases but since less are dying they are mum
about that. it does not fit their narrative.

Are the old folks homes running out of old folks?

Either that or they are doing better at keeping the virus away from
that cohort.

Or treatment has improved.

I haven't really heard of any treatment that will help the old and
infirm. There are things that "show promise" and things that "may
help" but nothing is a sure cure. If it was, we would not be looking
at a second go round of lock downs and closures.

On 7/7/2020 11:40 AM, Bod wrote:
On 07/07/2020 17:29, Muggles wrote:
On 7/7/2020 11:25 AM, Bod wrote:

I thought that you said you couldn't breathe with a mask on?


You don't have to have asthma to not be able to breath through a mask.


I've never heard anyone say that before.

Oh ... maybe you need to pay attention to what people say more then?

--
Maggie

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On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 15:38:16 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote:



wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 10:36:33 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote:



wrote in message
m...
On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 12:40:50 -0400, Neil Kelly
wrote:

On 7/6/2020 12:10 PM, Bob F wrote:
On 7/6/2020 7:54 AM, Frank wrote:
On 7/5/2020 2:56 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 7/5/2020 9:13 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 5 Jul 2020 12:28:41 +0100, Bod
wrote:

World sees record rise of 212,326 coronavirus cases in 24 hours



More testing = more cases.

More cases with fewer sick & dying = more nothing burger.

I'm not sure you're helping your own arguement .. :-)

John T.


EXACTLY!


It is not a nothing burger and it is serious but it is getting
under
control.

Liberal press talks about more cases but since less are dying they
are
mum about that. it does not fit their narrative.

Tell Texas, Florida and Arizona that.
They seem to have significant concerns. Darned Repub states. They
make
such a big deal of a nothingburger.


They did more testing so they discovered more infected people. Duh!


There really are more cases here but they are mostly young people who
are not likely to die. Last week they were on the news talking about
an 18 year old girl who died but they profiled her tonight. She was
about 200 pounds with cancer and an auto immune disease. Not exactly
what they wanted us to think last week.
The representative from both hospital conglomerates (almost a dozen
facilities between them) say the majority of the beds, including the
ICUs are not covid patients., They are those who were ducking other
procedures until the crisis was over. Surprise, it's back ;-)

The strangest thing is the insane mask rules they are pushing. OK you
can go in a bar if it is part of a restaurant. (Outback, Chilis etc).
You need a mask on when you walk in but as soon as you sit down, you
can take it off. If you are walking around holding a drink you don't
need it but if you don't take your drink to the bathroom you have to
put your mask on.
Even assuming all of that makes sense to you, how much are you
handling that filthy mask, right before you eat?

The only way I am wearing a mask is if the business gives me a new one
straight from the box and I am chucking it in the trash on my way out.
My only question is where do I keep that mask while I am eating? On
the table with the food? Yummy.

Only a fool goes to bars or restaurants currently.

Kissy face bars, I agree but I have been in two restaurants
that seemed to be doing pretty good at spacing people out

Its very far from clear that that is actually any use.
https://www.abc.net.au/radionational...irus-/12144242

and sanitizing the spaces.

Useless with aerosols and stupid to be taking
the risk with something as trivial as eating
out with so much of the virus around.

No communal menus, condiments or other table litter.

Useless with aerosols and stupid to be taking
the risk with something as trivial as eating
out with so much of the virus around.

And pity about what the kitchen staff put on the food etc.

I felt like it was as safe as carrying food out of that same kitchen.

More fool you with aerosols.

I still have no huge desire to go again tho.

And it would be completely stupid to do that.

It really looks like the bars that are having the problem are the
classic "meet" markets where people go to get close to someone.

That's bull**** too.

The band is loud and you are screaming
in someone's face just to be heard.

It isnt just with those.

At that point you might as well just let them spit in your mouth.

Pity about the aerosols.

I haven't been to that sort of place for 35 years except with
my wife and we tried to avoid the crowd jammed up at the
bar. A quick drink, a spin around the dance floor and out.

Makes no sense to go there at all with this virus around.

Same with barbers.

Stay there quivering under the bed my friend.

I do nothing of the sort because there is no virus here, ****wit.

Keep doing stupid stuff, and hopefully it will kill you very unpleasantly.

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On Tue, 07 Jul 2020 06:13:10 -0400, FromTheRafters
wrote:

on 7/7/2020, supposed :
On Mon, 06 Jul 2020 19:09:53 -0400, FromTheRafters
wrote:

Frank explained :
On 7/5/2020 2:56 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 7/5/2020 9:13 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 5 Jul 2020 12:28:41 +0100, Bod wrote:

World sees record rise of 212,326 coronavirus cases in 24 hours



More testing = more cases.

More cases with fewer sick & dying = more nothing burger.

I'm not sure you're helping your own arguement .. :-)

John T.


EXACTLY!


It is not a nothing burger and it is serious but it is getting under
control.

Liberal press talks about more cases but since less are dying they are
mum
about that. it does not fit their narrative.

Are the old folks homes running out of old folks?

Either that or they are doing better at keeping the virus away from
that cohort.

Or treatment has improved.

I haven't really heard of any treatment that will help the old and infirm.

Then you need to keep up. Oxygen does that.

There are things that "show promise" and things
that "may help" but nothing is a sure cure.

Help isnt the same thing as cure, ****wit.

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On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 15:50:20 +0100, Bod wrote:

On 07/07/2020 15:41, Muggles wrote:
On 7/6/2020 12:02 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 10:05:15 -0500, Muggles
wrote:

On 7/6/2020 9:54 AM, Frank wrote:

Liberal press talks about more cases but since less are dying they are
mum about that.Â* it does not fit their narrative.


They seem surprised more cases are found, but they forget that more
people are also being tested, too, so it's reasonable to conclude that
more cases will be found.

The percentage of positives are pretty high too. That just proves, the
virus isn't going anywhere and we can control the spread if we all
live under self imposed house arrest but as soon as we stick our head
up, it will be there.
The only long term fix is herd immunity.
BTW how is Sweden doing?


I'm not putting myself under house arrest ... haha I kind of feel sorry
for them. They're so scared. It's just another part of the world out
there that can make you sick if you're not healthy.


I assume that you are fairly old, you also have asthma, this puts you in
a high risk category so I would have thought that you would be more
sensible and take extra precautions.

Wearing a mask is not a precaution to prevent her from being infected,
particularly a rolled up T shirt, unless you think they are lying.

On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 17:19:18 +0100, Bod wrote:

On 07/07/2020 16:51, Muggles wrote:
On 7/6/2020 6:11 PM, FromTheRafters wrote:
Muggles expressed precisely :
On 7/6/2020 9:54 AM, Frank wrote:
On 7/5/2020 2:56 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 7/5/2020 9:13 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 5 Jul 2020 12:28:41 +0100, Bod wrote:

World sees record rise of 212,326 coronavirus cases in 24 hours



More testingÂ* =Â* more cases.

More casesÂ*Â* withÂ* fewer sick & dyingÂ* =Â* more nothing burger.

I'm not sure you're helping your own arguementÂ* ..Â*Â* :-)

Â*Â* John T.


EXACTLY!

It is not a nothing burger and it is serious but it is getting under
control.


Liberal press talks about more cases but since less are dying they are
mum about that.Â* it does not fit their narrative.


They seem surprised more cases are found, but they forget that more
people are also being tested, too, so it's reasonable to conclude that
more cases will be found.


They didn't forget, they just know more about it than you do.


Funny thing is they don't tell the public that those additional cases
are due to them TESTING more people. OH, but wait ... it just means
they can scare more people by leaving out that critical piece of
information.

How do you think that China was so successful in reducing Covid 19 so
quickly?
It was because of extensive testing.

No it was because soldiers with AKs were enforcing the quarantine.
They locked down the infected, then they locked down the news.

On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 17:39:33 +0100, Bod wrote:

On 07/07/2020 17:26, Muggles wrote:
On 7/7/2020 11:19 AM, Bod wrote:
On 07/07/2020 16:51, Muggles wrote:
On 7/6/2020 6:11 PM, FromTheRafters wrote:
Muggles expressed precisely :
On 7/6/2020 9:54 AM, Frank wrote:
On 7/5/2020 2:56 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 7/5/2020 9:13 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 5 Jul 2020 12:28:41 +0100, Bod wrote:

World sees record rise of 212,326 coronavirus cases in 24 hours



More testingÂ* =Â* more cases.

More casesÂ*Â* withÂ* fewer sick & dyingÂ* =Â* more nothing burger.

I'm not sure you're helping your own arguementÂ* ..Â*Â* :-)

Â*Â*Â* John T.


EXACTLY!

It is not a nothing burger and it is serious but it is getting under
control.


Liberal press talks about more cases but since less are dying they are
mum about that.Â* it does not fit their narrative.


They seem surprised more cases are found, but they forget that more
people are also being tested, too, so it's reasonable to conclude that
more cases will be found.


They didn't forget, they just know more about it than you do.


Funny thing is they don't tell the public that those additional cases
are due to them TESTING more people.Â* OH, but wait ... it just means
they can scare more people by leaving out that critical piece of
information.

How do you think that China was so successful in reducing Covid 19 so
quickly?
It was because of extensive testing.


You REALLY believe anything China says?

Ok: Whats Behind South Koreas COVID-19 Exceptionalism?
Seven weeks ago, South Korea and the U.S. had the same number of virus
deaths. Today, South Korea has fewer than 300, and the U.S. has more
than 70,000.

South Korean public-health officials recognized the necessity of early
testing and the importance of isolating new patients to prevent
secondary infections.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...secret/611215/

Autocratic regimes and islands have no problem quarantining their
whole country. The US, not so much.

On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 17:40:42 +0100, Bod wrote:

On 07/07/2020 17:29, Muggles wrote:
On 7/7/2020 11:25 AM, Bod wrote:
On 07/07/2020 17:24, Muggles wrote:
On 7/7/2020 9:50 AM, Bod wrote:
On 07/07/2020 15:41, Muggles wrote:
On 7/6/2020 12:02 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 10:05:15 -0500, Muggles
wrote:

On 7/6/2020 9:54 AM, Frank wrote:

Liberal press talks about more cases but since less are dying
they are
mum about that.Â* it does not fit their narrative.


They seem surprised more cases are found, but they forget that more
people are also being tested, too, so it's reasonable to conclude
that
more cases will be found.

The percentage of positives are pretty high too. That just proves, the
virus isn't going anywhere and we can control the spread if we all
live under self imposed house arrest but as soon as we stick our head
up, it will be there.
The only long term fix is herd immunity.
BTW how is Sweden doing?


I'm not putting myself under house arrest ... hahaÂ* I kind of feel
sorry
for them. They're so scared.Â* It's just another part of the world out
there that can make you sick if you're not healthy.


I assume that you are fairly old, you also have asthma, this puts you in
a high risk category so I would have thought that you would be more
sensible and take extra precautions.


I'm not fairly old, and I don't have asthma.

I thought that you said you couldn't breathe with a mask on?


You don't have to have asthma to not be able to breath through a mask.

I've never heard anyone say that before.

You heard me say it, along with real readings from a blood oxygen
meter. A surgical mask lowers my blood oxygen at least 3-5%. After a
while I get a headache.
My wife bought me some face shields. I am going to wear that next time
I am in Costco. (the only store around here with the requirement)
They are actually pretty simple. Just a glasses type frame without the
lower rim for the lens and a lexan shield attached.
It is yet to see how that plastic holds up to sanitizers

On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 04:50:41 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote:

Stay there quivering under the bed my friend.

I do nothing of the sort because there is no virus here, ****wit.

So, as usual, you don't know what you are talking about.

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On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 17:19:18 +0100, Bod wrote:

On 07/07/2020 16:51, Muggles wrote:
On 7/6/2020 6:11 PM, FromTheRafters wrote:
Muggles expressed precisely :
On 7/6/2020 9:54 AM, Frank wrote:
On 7/5/2020 2:56 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 7/5/2020 9:13 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 5 Jul 2020 12:28:41 +0100, Bod
wrote:

World sees record rise of 212,326 coronavirus cases in 24 hours



More testing = more cases.

More cases with fewer sick & dying = more nothing burger.

I'm not sure you're helping your own arguement .. :-)

John T.


EXACTLY!

It is not a nothing burger and it is serious but it is getting under
control.


Liberal press talks about more cases but since less are dying they
are
mum about that. it does not fit their narrative.


They seem surprised more cases are found, but they forget that more
people are also being tested, too, so it's reasonable to conclude that
more cases will be found.


They didn't forget, they just know more about it than you do.


Funny thing is they don't tell the public that those additional cases
are due to them TESTING more people. OH, but wait ... it just means
they can scare more people by leaving out that critical piece of
information.

How do you think that China was so successful in reducing Covid 19 so
quickly?
It was because of extensive testing.

No it was because soldiers with AKs

No soldiers with AKs were used to enforce anything.

were enforcing the quarantine.

Another pig ignorant lie.

They locked down the infected,

Another pig ignorant lie.

then they locked down the news.

Another pig ignorant lie.

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On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 17:39:33 +0100, Bod wrote:

On 07/07/2020 17:26, Muggles wrote:
On 7/7/2020 11:19 AM, Bod wrote:
On 07/07/2020 16:51, Muggles wrote:
On 7/6/2020 6:11 PM, FromTheRafters wrote:
Muggles expressed precisely :
On 7/6/2020 9:54 AM, Frank wrote:
On 7/5/2020 2:56 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 7/5/2020 9:13 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 5 Jul 2020 12:28:41 +0100, Bod
wrote:

World sees record rise of 212,326 coronavirus cases in 24 hours



More testing = more cases.

More cases with fewer sick & dying = more nothing burger.

I'm not sure you're helping your own arguement .. :-)

John T.


EXACTLY!

It is not a nothing burger and it is serious but it is getting
under
control.


Liberal press talks about more cases but since less are dying they
are
mum about that. it does not fit their narrative.


They seem surprised more cases are found, but they forget that more
people are also being tested, too, so it's reasonable to conclude
that
more cases will be found.


They didn't forget, they just know more about it than you do.


Funny thing is they don't tell the public that those additional cases
are due to them TESTING more people. OH, but wait ... it just means
they can scare more people by leaving out that critical piece of
information.

How do you think that China was so successful in reducing Covid 19 so
quickly?
It was because of extensive testing.


You REALLY believe anything China says?

Ok: Whats Behind South Koreas COVID-19 Exceptionalism?
Seven weeks ago, South Korea and the U.S. had the same number of virus
deaths. Today, South Korea has fewer than 300, and the U.S. has more
than 70,000.

South Korean public-health officials recognized the necessity of early
testing and the importance of isolating new patients to prevent
secondary infections.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...secret/611215/

Autocratic regimes and islands have no problem quarantining their
whole country. The US, not so much.

Austria and scandinavia arent autocratic regimes, you pathetic excuse for a
bull**** artist.

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On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 17:40:42 +0100, Bod wrote:

On 07/07/2020 17:29, Muggles wrote:
On 7/7/2020 11:25 AM, Bod wrote:
On 07/07/2020 17:24, Muggles wrote:
On 7/7/2020 9:50 AM, Bod wrote:
On 07/07/2020 15:41, Muggles wrote:
On 7/6/2020 12:02 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 10:05:15 -0500, Muggles
wrote:

On 7/6/2020 9:54 AM, Frank wrote:

Liberal press talks about more cases but since less are dying
they are
mum about that. it does not fit their narrative.


They seem surprised more cases are found, but they forget that
more
people are also being tested, too, so it's reasonable to conclude
that
more cases will be found.

The percentage of positives are pretty high too. That just proves,
the
virus isn't going anywhere and we can control the spread if we all
live under self imposed house arrest but as soon as we stick our
head
up, it will be there.
The only long term fix is herd immunity.
BTW how is Sweden doing?


I'm not putting myself under house arrest ... haha I kind of feel
sorry
for them. They're so scared. It's just another part of the world
out
there that can make you sick if you're not healthy.


I assume that you are fairly old, you also have asthma, this puts you
in
a high risk category so I would have thought that you would be more
sensible and take extra precautions.


I'm not fairly old, and I don't have asthma.

I thought that you said you couldn't breathe with a mask on?


You don't have to have asthma to not be able to breath through a mask.

I've never heard anyone say that before.

You heard me say it, along with real readings from a blood oxygen
meter. A surgical mask lowers my blood oxygen at least 3-5%.

So does plenty of other stuff, stupid

After a while I get a headache.

Aw, poor diddums.

My wife bought me some face shields. I am going to wear that next time
I am in Costco. (the only store around here with the requirement)
They are actually pretty simple. Just a glasses type frame without the
lower rim for the lens and a lexan shield attached.
It is yet to see how that plastic holds up to sanitizers

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On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 04:50:41 +1000, "Rod Speed"
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Stay there quivering under the bed my friend.

I do nothing of the sort because there is no virus here, ****wit.

So, as usual, you don't know what you are talking about.

You never could bull**** and lie your way out of a wet paper bag.

There is no virus anywhere near my city or in it either, ****wit
and hasn't been for something like 50 days now, ****wit.

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It happens that Muggles formulated :
On 7/6/2020 6:11 PM, FromTheRafters wrote:
Muggles expressed precisely :
On 7/6/2020 9:54 AM, Frank wrote:
On 7/5/2020 2:56 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 7/5/2020 9:13 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 5 Jul 2020 12:28:41 +0100, Bod wrote:

World sees record rise of 212,326 coronavirus cases in 24 hours



More testing* =* more cases.

More cases** with* fewer sick & dying* =* more nothing burger.

I'm not sure you're helping your own arguement* ..** :-)

** John T.


EXACTLY!

It is not a nothing burger and it is serious but it is getting under
control.


Liberal press talks about more cases but since less are dying they are
mum about that.* it does not fit their narrative.


They seem surprised more cases are found, but they forget that more
people are also being tested, too, so it's reasonable to conclude that
more cases will be found.


They didn't forget, they just know more about it than you do.


Funny thing is they don't tell the public that those additional cases
are due to them TESTING more people. OH, but wait ... it just means
they can scare more people by leaving out that critical piece of
information.

True, it is not made clear that they are talking about #positive cases
over #tests which is a rate number not just a plain old integer.

On 7/7/2020 9:26 AM, Muggles wrote:
On 7/7/2020 11:19 AM, Bod wrote:
On 07/07/2020 16:51, Muggles wrote:
On 7/6/2020 6:11 PM, FromTheRafters wrote:
Muggles expressed precisely :
On 7/6/2020 9:54 AM, Frank wrote:
On 7/5/2020 2:56 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 7/5/2020 9:13 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 5 Jul 2020 12:28:41 +0100, Bod wrote:

World sees record rise of 212,326 coronavirus cases in 24 hours



More testing* =* more cases.

More cases** with* fewer sick & dying* =* more nothing burger.

I'm not sure you're helping your own arguement* ..** :-)

*** John T.


EXACTLY!

It is not a nothing burger and it is serious but it is getting under
control.


Liberal press talks about more cases but since less are dying they are
mum about that.* it does not fit their narrative.


They seem surprised more cases are found, but they forget that more
people are also being tested, too, so it's reasonable to conclude that
more cases will be found.


They didn't forget, they just know more about it than you do.


Funny thing is they don't tell the public that those additional cases
are due to them TESTING more people.* OH, but wait ... it just means
they can scare more people by leaving out that critical piece of
information.

How do you think that China was so successful in reducing Covid 19 so
quickly?
It was because of extensive testing.


You REALLY believe anything China says?


Way better than I'd believe ANYTHING you say.

On 7/7/2020 4:02 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 17:39:33 +0100, Bod wrote:

On 07/07/2020 17:26, Muggles wrote:
On 7/7/2020 11:19 AM, Bod wrote:
On 07/07/2020 16:51, Muggles wrote:
On 7/6/2020 6:11 PM, FromTheRafters wrote:
Muggles expressed precisely :
On 7/6/2020 9:54 AM, Frank wrote:
On 7/5/2020 2:56 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 7/5/2020 9:13 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 5 Jul 2020 12:28:41 +0100, Bod wrote:

World sees record rise of 212,326 coronavirus cases in 24 hours



More testingÂ* =Â* more cases.

More casesÂ*Â* withÂ* fewer sick & dyingÂ* =Â* more nothing burger.

I'm not sure you're helping your own arguementÂ* ..Â*Â* :-)

Â*Â*Â* John T.


EXACTLY!

It is not a nothing burger and it is serious but it is getting under
control.


Liberal press talks about more cases but since less are dying they are
mum about that.Â* it does not fit their narrative.


They seem surprised more cases are found, but they forget that more
people are also being tested, too, so it's reasonable to conclude that
more cases will be found.


They didn't forget, they just know more about it than you do.


Funny thing is they don't tell the public that those additional cases
are due to them TESTING more people.Â* OH, but wait ... it just means
they can scare more people by leaving out that critical piece of
information.

How do you think that China was so successful in reducing Covid 19 so
quickly?
It was because of extensive testing.


You REALLY believe anything China says?

Ok: Whats Behind South Koreas COVID-19 Exceptionalism?
Seven weeks ago, South Korea and the U.S. had the same number of virus
deaths. Today, South Korea has fewer than 300, and the U.S. has more
than 70,000.

South Korean public-health officials recognized the necessity of early
testing and the importance of isolating new patients to prevent
secondary infections.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...secret/611215/

Autocratic regimes and islands have no problem quarantining their
whole country. The US, not so much.


So if trump gets re-elected, we will be able to do what trump could not
do. We will be an autocratic nation if that happens.

On 7/7/2020 9:13 AM, Muggles wrote:
On 7/6/2020 7:09 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 12:40:50 -0400, Neil Kelly
wrote:

On 7/6/2020 12:10 PM, Bob F wrote:
On 7/6/2020 7:54 AM, Frank wrote:
On 7/5/2020 2:56 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 7/5/2020 9:13 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 5 Jul 2020 12:28:41 +0100, Bod wrote:

World sees record rise of 212,326 coronavirus cases in 24 hours



More testingÂ* =Â* more cases.

More casesÂ*Â* withÂ* fewer sick & dyingÂ* =Â* more nothing burger.

I'm not sure you're helping your own arguementÂ* ..Â*Â* :-)

Â*Â* John T.


EXACTLY!


It is not a nothing burger and it is serious but it is getting under control.

Liberal press talks about more cases but since less are dying they are mum about that.Â* it does not fit their narrative.

Tell Texas, Florida and Arizona that.
They seem to have significant concerns. Darned Repub states. They make such a big deal of a nothingburger.


They did more testing so they discovered more infected people. Duh!


There really are more cases here but they are mostly young people who
are not likely to die. Last week they were on the news talking about
an 18 year old girl who died but they profiled her tonight. She was
about 200 pounds with cancer and an auto immune disease. Not exactly
what they wanted us to think last week.
The representative from both hospital conglomerates (almost a dozen
facilities between them) say the majority of the beds, including the
ICUs are not covid patients., They are those who were ducking other
procedures until the crisis was over. Surprise, it's back ;-)

The strangest thing is the insane mask rules they are pushing. OK you
can go in a bar if it is part of a restaurant. (Outback, Chilis etc).
You need a mask on when you walk in but as soon as you sit down, you
can take it off. If you are walking around holding a drink you don't
need it but if you don't take your drink to the bathroom you have to
put your mask on.
Even assuming all of that makes sense to you, how much are you
handling that filthy mask, right before you eat?

The only way I am wearing a mask is if the business gives me a new one
straight from the box and I am chucking it in the trash on my way out.
My only question is where do I keep that mask while I am eating? On
the table with the food? Yummy.


hahaha Stop being logical! haha


And good luck finding a store that will let you buy anything.