hi I have inherited my parent's house in the NorthEast usa. It has well water.
Growing up there were always alot of leaks in the copper pipes. My Dad said the problem was that the well water was 'hard' and it was rough on the pipes. He said years ago someone told him about a system that could improve the water but he never pursued it. Does any one have a system that softens water? Can anyone suggest a good one? thanks

On Sunday, December 29, 2019 at 1:02:11 PM UTC-5, wrote:
hi I have inherited my parent's house in the NorthEast usa. It has well water.
Growing up there were always alot of leaks in the copper pipes. My Dad said the problem was that the well water was 'hard' and it was rough on the pipes. He said years ago someone told him about a system that could improve the water but he never pursued it. Does any one have a system that softens water? Can anyone suggest a good one? thanks

I've never associated hard water with copper pipes leaking. Typically
the complaints with hard water are that it builds up scale, especially
in water heaters, boilers, etc. It requires more detergent to wash
clothes, can leave stains in sinks, iron being the offender there.

If you want a softener, I'd at least look into Nuvo, which is one that's
based on using citric acid cartridges, instead of salt. IDK much about
it except seeing it advertised on TV and it looks interesting. Key issue
would be how much water a cartridge will do and how much they cost.
The typical ones use salt, which is cheap. And you should first get
the water tested to know what you're dealing with, how hard it really is, etc.

On Sun, 29 Dec 2019 10:02:07 -0800 (PST), wrote:

hi I have inherited my parent's house in the NorthEast usa. It has well water.
Growing up there were always alot of leaks in the copper pipes.
My Dad said the problem was that the well water was 'hard'
and it was rough on the pipes.
He said years ago someone told him about a system that could
improve the water but he never pursued it.
Does any one have a system that softens water?
Can anyone suggest a good one? thanks



1. Have your water tested.
2. Then have it tested again by an honest person
who isn't selling water treatment systems.
3. Ask the nearby neighbours about their well water treatment
and/or any issues that they have experienced.

http://www.wellwaterguide.net/

Often the local public health dept. will offer free well water
testing - but it's often only for bacteria count - not
hardness or other problems.

If you're also on a septic system - make sure that it will
handle the proposed water treatments ..
John T.

On 12/29/2019 1:45 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 29 Dec 2019 10:02:07 -0800 (PST), wrote:

hi I have inherited my parent's house in the NorthEast usa. It has well water.
Growing up there were always alot of leaks in the copper pipes.
My Dad said the problem was that the well water was 'hard'
and it was rough on the pipes.
He said years ago someone told him about a system that could
improve the water but he never pursued it.
Does any one have a system that softens water?
Can anyone suggest a good one? thanks



1. Have your water tested.
2. Then have it tested again by an honest person
who isn't selling water treatment systems.
3. Ask the nearby neighbours about their well water treatment
and/or any issues that they have experienced.

http://www.wellwaterguide.net/

Often the local public health dept. will offer free well water
testing - but it's often only for bacteria count - not
hardness or other problems.

If you're also on a septic system - make sure that it will
handle the proposed water treatments ..
John T.

This is sound advice. Adding to it, I'd avoid the franchise guys like
Culligan and look for a local guy to get you what you really need. Ask
neighbors

Where in the northeast are you? In central MA Hi Purity is a good
outfit. I used them at work for years.

On Sun, 29 Dec 2019 10:02:07 -0800 (PST), wrote:

hi I have inherited my parent's house in the NorthEast usa. It has well water.
Growing up there were always alot of leaks in the copper pipes. My Dad said the problem was that the well water was 'hard' and it was rough on the pipes. He said years ago someone told him about a system that could improve the water but he never pursued it. Does any one have a system that softens water? Can anyone suggest a good one? thanks
Still nothing better out there than a good old ion exchange water
softener - you know, the ones that use salt?
Virtually all the other softeneing technologies out there have
"issues" - to be charitable.

On Sun, 29 Dec 2019 14:03:26 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 12/29/2019 1:45 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 29 Dec 2019 10:02:07 -0800 (PST), wrote:

hi I have inherited my parent's house in the NorthEast usa. It has well water.
Growing up there were always alot of leaks in the copper pipes.
My Dad said the problem was that the well water was 'hard'
and it was rough on the pipes.
He said years ago someone told him about a system that could
improve the water but he never pursued it.
Does any one have a system that softens water?
Can anyone suggest a good one? thanks



1. Have your water tested.
2. Then have it tested again by an honest person
who isn't selling water treatment systems.
3. Ask the nearby neighbours about their well water treatment
and/or any issues that they have experienced.

http://www.wellwaterguide.net/

Often the local public health dept. will offer free well water
testing - but it's often only for bacteria count - not
hardness or other problems.

If you're also on a septic system - make sure that it will
handle the proposed water treatments ..
John T.

This is sound advice. Adding to it, I'd avoid the franchise guys like
Culligan and look for a local guy to get you what you really need. Ask
neighbors

Where in the northeast are you? In central MA Hi Purity is a good
outfit. I used them at work for years.


Up here in Ontario Canada I've had good results with Meyers and
Canadian Water Conditioning and Miracle Water.
My current unit is a Miracle Water. It replaced a 35 year old Meyers.
Anything using a "Fleck" valve assembly will be at the very least, a
decent system. There are "sensor" type, "programmed" type using water
flow, and "programmed" units using a time clock. My old Meyers was a
timeclock unit. The current Miracle Water is a flow sense programmed
system. The "sensor" type tend to be more problematic (as well as
significantly more expensive up-front)

With the flow type you set the hardness of the water in grains and it
figures out then to recharge based on the amount of water you have
used. Here in Waterloo Ontario we are running about 30 grains -
region wide it varies from about 17 to 38 (that is 360-650 ppm) I go
through 5 or 6 bags of salt per year (20 kg or 44 lb bags) at about $6
- $7 a bag.

I bought my Miracle Water unit on sale at TSC and installed it
myself. IIRC it was on a really good deal at about $350. Normal
pricing is closer to $600 - I bought mine before i "really needed" it
-saw the price that was almost too good to be true and KNEW the mryers
was on borrowed time. I had already rebuilt the head and replaced the
resin tube over 15 years ago.

On Sun, 29 Dec 2019 10:02:07 -0800 (PST), wrote:

hi I have inherited my parent's house in the NorthEast usa. It has well water.
Growing up there were always alot of leaks in the copper pipes. My Dad said the problem was that the well water was 'hard' and it was rough on the pipes. He said years ago someone told him about a system that could improve the water but he never pursued it. Does any one have a system that softens water? Can anyone suggest a good one? thanks

If you want a free water test, a recommendation of what you need and a
high pressure sales pitch, call Culligan.
You can always say no, then decide how much of the system he proposed
is necessary ... or just let them do it.
In my case, I didn't call them, the guy just showed up at my door a
few days after I closed on the house so I figured I didn't owe him
anything. I shopped around and got everything I needed a whole lot
cheaper than that proposal, without a contract but YMMV.

On Sun, 29 Dec 2019 16:37:39 -0500, Clare Snyder
wrote:

On Sun, 29 Dec 2019 14:03:26 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 12/29/2019 1:45 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 29 Dec 2019 10:02:07 -0800 (PST), wrote:

hi I have inherited my parent's house in the NorthEast usa. It has well water.
Growing up there were always alot of leaks in the copper pipes.
My Dad said the problem was that the well water was 'hard'
and it was rough on the pipes.
He said years ago someone told him about a system that could
improve the water but he never pursued it.
Does any one have a system that softens water?
Can anyone suggest a good one? thanks



1. Have your water tested.
2. Then have it tested again by an honest person
who isn't selling water treatment systems.
3. Ask the nearby neighbours about their well water treatment
and/or any issues that they have experienced.

http://www.wellwaterguide.net/

Often the local public health dept. will offer free well water
testing - but it's often only for bacteria count - not
hardness or other problems.

If you're also on a septic system - make sure that it will
handle the proposed water treatments ..
John T.

This is sound advice. Adding to it, I'd avoid the franchise guys like
Culligan and look for a local guy to get you what you really need. Ask
neighbors

Where in the northeast are you? In central MA Hi Purity is a good
outfit. I used them at work for years.


Up here in Ontario Canada I've had good results with Meyers and
Canadian Water Conditioning and Miracle Water.
My current unit is a Miracle Water. It replaced a 35 year old Meyers.
Anything using a "Fleck" valve assembly will be at the very least, a
decent system. There are "sensor" type, "programmed" type using water
flow, and "programmed" units using a time clock. My old Meyers was a
timeclock unit. The current Miracle Water is a flow sense programmed
system. The "sensor" type tend to be more problematic (as well as
significantly more expensive up-front)

With the flow type you set the hardness of the water in grains and it
figures out then to recharge based on the amount of water you have
used. Here in Waterloo Ontario we are running about 30 grains -
region wide it varies from about 17 to 38 (that is 360-650 ppm) I go
through 5 or 6 bags of salt per year (20 kg or 44 lb bags) at about $6
- $7 a bag.

I bought my Miracle Water unit on sale at TSC and installed it
myself. IIRC it was on a really good deal at about $350. Normal
pricing is closer to $600 - I bought mine before i "really needed" it
-saw the price that was almost too good to be true and KNEW the mryers
was on borrowed time. I had already rebuilt the head and replaced the
resin tube over 15 years ago.


Mine is similar to this but 1 size larger :

http://tinyurl.com/sfhyu7c

I wanted to stay away from the electronic controls.

My old one had the same control which was re-built once
in its ~ 20 year life - if I remember it was ~ $ 75. to have it
done.
I have a bit of iron in my well water, so I use the more-expensive
"rust remover" salt - but at 5 or 6 bags per year
it isn't a show-stopper.
John T.

On 12/29/2019 1:02 PM, wrote:
hi I have inherited my parent's house in the NorthEast usa. It has well water.
Growing up there were always alot of leaks in the copper pipes. My Dad said the problem was that the well water was 'hard' and it was rough on the pipes. He said years ago someone told him about a system that could improve the water but he never pursued it. Does any one have a system that softens water? Can anyone suggest a good one? thanks


At minimum, you'll need to test your water for hardness and pH.