Submersible pump failed on my well. Plumber has worked on it in the
past and installed new pump and pressure tank over 10 years ago.

He pulled the pump, put a new one on to discover that the well must have
collapsed as it would only go to 3/4 previous depth. Then no matter
what he did, he could not pull it out. He had to cut off the top of the
pipe to hook to the house. We have water but water table is up and pump
surrounded with debris may not last long. Plumber would not take a
partial hit on his bill but I paid him anyway. I should get water for
transition to new well in a week or so. Neighbor could supply me
through a hose but it freezes with low temperatures. I had supplied the
previous owner for a week a while back when they had the same problem
but weather was nice.

Just hired a well digger to put in a new well since the old one is
partially collapsed and new one will be needed sooner or later. His
costs are also less for a new pump, plumbing and pressure tank than the
plumber's. My previous neighbor recommended him after going through the
same process.

My plumber who did good work in the past and will now be history has
taught me the lesson of not getting a plumber to work on your well.

On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 3:58:54 PM UTC-5, Frank wrote:
Submersible pump failed on my well. Plumber has worked on it in the
past and installed new pump and pressure tank over 10 years ago.

He pulled the pump, put a new one on to discover that the well must have
collapsed as it would only go to 3/4 previous depth. Then no matter
what he did, he could not pull it out. He had to cut off the top of the
pipe to hook to the house. We have water but water table is up and pump
surrounded with debris may not last long. Plumber would not take a
partial hit on his bill but I paid him anyway. I should get water for
transition to new well in a week or so. Neighbor could supply me
through a hose but it freezes with low temperatures. I had supplied the
previous owner for a week a while back when they had the same problem
but weather was nice.

Just hired a well digger to put in a new well since the old one is
partially collapsed and new one will be needed sooner or later. His
costs are also less for a new pump, plumbing and pressure tank than the
plumber's. My previous neighbor recommended him after going through the
same process.

My plumber who did good work in the past and will now be history has
taught me the lesson of not getting a plumber to work on your well.


Let me get this right. Your ****ty old well collapsed and you're trying to
blame the plumber, who you say did good work in the past? He didn't collapse
it by pulling and replacing a pump.

On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 13:42:42 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:

On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 3:58:54 PM UTC-5, Frank wrote:
Submersible pump failed on my well. Plumber has worked on it in the
past and installed new pump and pressure tank over 10 years ago.

He pulled the pump, put a new one on to discover that the well must have
collapsed as it would only go to 3/4 previous depth. Then no matter
what he did, he could not pull it out. He had to cut off the top of the
pipe to hook to the house. We have water but water table is up and pump
surrounded with debris may not last long. Plumber would not take a
partial hit on his bill but I paid him anyway. I should get water for
transition to new well in a week or so. Neighbor could supply me
through a hose but it freezes with low temperatures. I had supplied the
previous owner for a week a while back when they had the same problem
but weather was nice.

Just hired a well digger to put in a new well since the old one is
partially collapsed and new one will be needed sooner or later. His
costs are also less for a new pump, plumbing and pressure tank than the
plumber's. My previous neighbor recommended him after going through the
same process.

My plumber who did good work in the past and will now be history has
taught me the lesson of not getting a plumber to work on your well.


Let me get this right. Your ****ty old well collapsed and you're trying to
blame the plumber, who you say did good work in the past? He didn't collapse
it by pulling and replacing a pump.


No he is trying to say the plumber is more expensive and still might
be able to fix your problem.
If you have a well problem, call a well company.

On 1/24/2019 10:02 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 13:42:42 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:

On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 3:58:54 PM UTC-5, Frank wrote:
Submersible pump failed on my well. Plumber has worked on it in the
past and installed new pump and pressure tank over 10 years ago.

He pulled the pump, put a new one on to discover that the well must have
collapsed as it would only go to 3/4 previous depth. Then no matter
what he did, he could not pull it out. He had to cut off the top of the
pipe to hook to the house. We have water but water table is up and pump
surrounded with debris may not last long. Plumber would not take a
partial hit on his bill but I paid him anyway. I should get water for
transition to new well in a week or so. Neighbor could supply me
through a hose but it freezes with low temperatures. I had supplied the
previous owner for a week a while back when they had the same problem
but weather was nice.

Just hired a well digger to put in a new well since the old one is
partially collapsed and new one will be needed sooner or later. His
costs are also less for a new pump, plumbing and pressure tank than the
plumber's. My previous neighbor recommended him after going through the
same process.

My plumber who did good work in the past and will now be history has
taught me the lesson of not getting a plumber to work on your well.


Let me get this right. Your ****ty old well collapsed and you're trying to
blame the plumber, who you say did good work in the past? He didn't collapse
it by pulling and replacing a pump.


No he is trying to say the plumber is more expensive and still might
be able to fix your problem.
If you have a well problem, call a well company.


You are correct and as usual our resident traitor is befuddled.

On 1/24/2019 3:58 PM, Frank wrote:
Submersible pump failed on my well.Â* Plumber has worked on it in the past and installed new pump and pressure tank over 10 years ago.

He pulled the pump, put a new one on to discover that the well must have collapsed as it would only go to 3/4 previous depth. Then no matter what he did, he could not pull it out.Â* He had to cut off the top of the pipe to hook to the house.Â* We have
water but water table is up and pump surrounded with debris may not last long.Â* Plumber would not take a partial hit on his bill but I paid him anyway.Â* I should get water for transition to new well in a week or so.Â* Neighbor could supply me through a
hose but it freezes with low temperatures.Â* I had supplied the previous owner for a week a while back when they had the same problem but weather was nice.

Just hired a well digger to put in a new well since the old one is partially collapsed and new one will be needed sooner or later. His costs are also less for a new pump, plumbing and pressure tank than the plumber's.Â* My previous neighbor recommended
him after going through the same process.

My plumber who did good work in the past and will now be history has taught me the lesson of not getting a plumber to work on your well.


Just curious but how/why did the well collapse?Â* Generally wells are entirely encased in PVC with a slotted bottom section that allows the water to flow in but prevents collapse.Â* Did the slotted PVC section fail?

On 1/25/2019 8:47 AM, not my real pseudonym wrote:
On 1/24/2019 3:58 PM, Frank wrote:
Submersible pump failed on my well.Â* Plumber has worked on it in the
past and installed new pump and pressure tank over 10 years ago.

He pulled the pump, put a new one on to discover that the well must
have collapsed as it would only go to 3/4 previous depth. Then no
matter what he did, he could not pull it out.Â* He had to cut off the
top of the pipe to hook to the house.Â* We have water but water table
is up and pump surrounded with debris may not last long.Â* Plumber
would not take a partial hit on his bill but I paid him anyway.Â* I
should get water for transition to new well in a week or so.Â* Neighbor
could supply me through a hose but it freezes with low temperatures.
I had supplied the previous owner for a week a while back when they
had the same problem but weather was nice.

Just hired a well digger to put in a new well since the old one is
partially collapsed and new one will be needed sooner or later. His
costs are also less for a new pump, plumbing and pressure tank than
the plumber's.Â* My previous neighbor recommended him after going
through the same process.

My plumber who did good work in the past and will now be history has
taught me the lesson of not getting a plumber to work on your well.


Just curious but how/why did the well collapse?Â* Generally wells are
entirely encased in PVC with a slotted bottom section that allows the
water to flow in but prevents collapse.Â* Did the slotted PVC section fail?

They only case so far and this was below the casing which I believe only
goes down about 50 feet. The well was about 125 feet deep. Casing
probably depends on the strata which is rock here but downstate near the
coast is sand.

My pump was at about 119 feet and is not stuck at about 89 feet. It is
in water and we are still getting water but now bogged down in the
porous rock, it will not last long.

On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 10:02:47 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 13:42:42 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:

On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 3:58:54 PM UTC-5, Frank wrote:
Submersible pump failed on my well. Plumber has worked on it in the
past and installed new pump and pressure tank over 10 years ago.

He pulled the pump, put a new one on to discover that the well must have
collapsed as it would only go to 3/4 previous depth. Then no matter
what he did, he could not pull it out. He had to cut off the top of the
pipe to hook to the house. We have water but water table is up and pump
surrounded with debris may not last long. Plumber would not take a
partial hit on his bill but I paid him anyway. I should get water for
transition to new well in a week or so. Neighbor could supply me
through a hose but it freezes with low temperatures. I had supplied the
previous owner for a week a while back when they had the same problem
but weather was nice.

Just hired a well digger to put in a new well since the old one is
partially collapsed and new one will be needed sooner or later. His
costs are also less for a new pump, plumbing and pressure tank than the
plumber's. My previous neighbor recommended him after going through the
same process.

My plumber who did good work in the past and will now be history has
taught me the lesson of not getting a plumber to work on your well.


Let me get this right. Your ****ty old well collapsed and you're trying to
blame the plumber, who you say did good work in the past? He didn't collapse
it by pulling and replacing a pump.


No he is trying to say the plumber is more expensive and still might
be able to fix your problem.
If you have a well problem, call a well company.

And the result would not have been the same, anyway? A well company is
going to eat the cost?

"He pulled the pump, put a new one on to discover that the well must have
collapsed as it would only go to 3/4 previous depth. Then no matter
what he did, he could not pull it out. Plumber would not take a
partial hit on his bill but I paid him anyway. My plumber who did good
work in the past and will now be history"


What did the plumber do that was wrong and why should he take a hit on
the bill for what he did, given that Frank's ****ty old well collapsed?
IDK what they do where Frank lives, but here, the casing goes the depth
of the well. I've had a well that was 180 ft deep with a casing all the
way. Perhaps they have good wells that cost more and ****ty wells for
cheapskates?

On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 09:02:14 -0500, Frank "frank wrote:

On 1/25/2019 8:47 AM, not my real pseudonym wrote:
On 1/24/2019 3:58 PM, Frank wrote:
Submersible pump failed on my well.Â* Plumber has worked on it in the
past and installed new pump and pressure tank over 10 years ago.

He pulled the pump, put a new one on to discover that the well must
have collapsed as it would only go to 3/4 previous depth. Then no
matter what he did, he could not pull it out.Â* He had to cut off the
top of the pipe to hook to the house.Â* We have water but water table
is up and pump surrounded with debris may not last long.Â* Plumber
would not take a partial hit on his bill but I paid him anyway.Â* I
should get water for transition to new well in a week or so.Â* Neighbor
could supply me through a hose but it freezes with low temperatures.
I had supplied the previous owner for a week a while back when they
had the same problem but weather was nice.

Just hired a well digger to put in a new well since the old one is
partially collapsed and new one will be needed sooner or later. His
costs are also less for a new pump, plumbing and pressure tank than
the plumber's.Â* My previous neighbor recommended him after going
through the same process.

My plumber who did good work in the past and will now be history has
taught me the lesson of not getting a plumber to work on your well.


Just curious but how/why did the well collapse?Â* Generally wells are
entirely encased in PVC with a slotted bottom section that allows the
water to flow in but prevents collapse.Â* Did the slotted PVC section fail?

They only case so far and this was below the casing which I believe only
goes down about 50 feet. The well was about 125 feet deep. Casing
probably depends on the strata which is rock here but downstate near the
coast is sand.

My pump was at about 119 feet and is not stuck at about 89 feet. It is
in water and we are still getting water but now bogged down in the
porous rock, it will not last long.

That is unusual. Our well casings go all the way to the aquifer, at
least past the last layer of rock that is sequestering the water.

If you lose a pump, it is gone. Typically the well is 200' and the
pump is somewhere in between. Mine is at 60'. What can happen is the
water table drops below the pump., the pump overheats, the threads
soften and the pump pull off the pipe. If you are lucky, the wires
hold it. The best practice is to tie a nylon rope to the pump and run
it with the wiring.

On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 07:55:49 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:

On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 10:02:47 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 13:42:42 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:

On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 3:58:54 PM UTC-5, Frank wrote:
Submersible pump failed on my well. Plumber has worked on it in the
past and installed new pump and pressure tank over 10 years ago.

He pulled the pump, put a new one on to discover that the well must have
collapsed as it would only go to 3/4 previous depth. Then no matter
what he did, he could not pull it out. He had to cut off the top of the
pipe to hook to the house. We have water but water table is up and pump
surrounded with debris may not last long. Plumber would not take a
partial hit on his bill but I paid him anyway. I should get water for
transition to new well in a week or so. Neighbor could supply me
through a hose but it freezes with low temperatures. I had supplied the
previous owner for a week a while back when they had the same problem
but weather was nice.

Just hired a well digger to put in a new well since the old one is
partially collapsed and new one will be needed sooner or later. His
costs are also less for a new pump, plumbing and pressure tank than the
plumber's. My previous neighbor recommended him after going through the
same process.

My plumber who did good work in the past and will now be history has
taught me the lesson of not getting a plumber to work on your well.


Let me get this right. Your ****ty old well collapsed and you're trying to
blame the plumber, who you say did good work in the past? He didn't collapse
it by pulling and replacing a pump.


No he is trying to say the plumber is more expensive and still might
be able to fix your problem.
If you have a well problem, call a well company.

And the result would not have been the same, anyway? A well company is
going to eat the cost?

"He pulled the pump, put a new one on to discover that the well must have
collapsed as it would only go to 3/4 previous depth. Then no matter
what he did, he could not pull it out. Plumber would not take a
partial hit on his bill but I paid him anyway. My plumber who did good
work in the past and will now be history"


What did the plumber do that was wrong and why should he take a hit on
the bill for what he did, given that Frank's ****ty old well collapsed?
IDK what they do where Frank lives, but here, the casing goes the depth
of the well. I've had a well that was 180 ft deep with a casing all the
way. Perhaps they have good wells that cost more and ****ty wells for
cheapskates?

The well company would have diagnosed the problem faster (less labor)
and they might have given him a break on that call because he was
drilling a well. They get a better price on pumps because they buy in
bulk..

On Friday, January 25, 2019 at 11:49:14 AM UTC-5, wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 07:55:49 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:

On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 10:02:47 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 13:42:42 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:

On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 3:58:54 PM UTC-5, Frank wrote:
Submersible pump failed on my well. Plumber has worked on it in the
past and installed new pump and pressure tank over 10 years ago.

He pulled the pump, put a new one on to discover that the well must have
collapsed as it would only go to 3/4 previous depth. Then no matter
what he did, he could not pull it out. He had to cut off the top of the
pipe to hook to the house. We have water but water table is up and pump
surrounded with debris may not last long. Plumber would not take a
partial hit on his bill but I paid him anyway. I should get water for
transition to new well in a week or so. Neighbor could supply me
through a hose but it freezes with low temperatures. I had supplied the
previous owner for a week a while back when they had the same problem
but weather was nice.

Just hired a well digger to put in a new well since the old one is
partially collapsed and new one will be needed sooner or later. His
costs are also less for a new pump, plumbing and pressure tank than the
plumber's. My previous neighbor recommended him after going through the
same process.

My plumber who did good work in the past and will now be history has
taught me the lesson of not getting a plumber to work on your well.


Let me get this right. Your ****ty old well collapsed and you're trying to
blame the plumber, who you say did good work in the past? He didn't collapse
it by pulling and replacing a pump.


No he is trying to say the plumber is more expensive and still might
be able to fix your problem.
If you have a well problem, call a well company.

And the result would not have been the same, anyway? A well company is
going to eat the cost?

"He pulled the pump, put a new one on to discover that the well must have
collapsed as it would only go to 3/4 previous depth. Then no matter
what he did, he could not pull it out. Plumber would not take a
partial hit on his bill but I paid him anyway. My plumber who did good
work in the past and will now be history"


What did the plumber do that was wrong and why should he take a hit on
the bill for what he did, given that Frank's ****ty old well collapsed?
IDK what they do where Frank lives, but here, the casing goes the depth
of the well. I've had a well that was 180 ft deep with a casing all the
way. Perhaps they have good wells that cost more and ****ty wells for
cheapskates?

The well company would have diagnosed the problem faster (less labor)
and they might have given him a break on that call because he was
drilling a well. They get a better price on pumps because they buy in
bulk..

It's pure speculation. We have no info as to how much experience that
plumber has with wells and pumps, what discounts he gets on materials.
A collapsed well is still a collapsed well and the plumber didn't do it.
Yes, maybe a well driller might have given him a break. It's also
possible that he could have chosen a well company that said, it's
$6K for a new well, we'll forget about the existing $500 bill for the
work we;ve done. And he might find another well company that will drill
it for $5500 or less anyway. But the bottom line here is that despite
what you claim, Frank is clearly ****ed at the plumber, who did nothing
wrong, as evidenced by:

"My plumber who did good work in the past and will now be history has
taught me the lesson of not getting a plumber to work on your well."

He's like Trump, always blame someone else.

"trader_4" wrote in message
...
On Friday, January 25, 2019 at 11:49:14 AM UTC-5, wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 07:55:49 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:

On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 10:02:47 PM UTC-5,
wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 13:42:42 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:

On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 3:58:54 PM UTC-5, Frank wrote:
Submersible pump failed on my well. Plumber has worked on it in
the
past and installed new pump and pressure tank over 10 years ago.

He pulled the pump, put a new one on to discover that the well must
have
collapsed as it would only go to 3/4 previous depth. Then no
matter
what he did, he could not pull it out. He had to cut off the top
of the
pipe to hook to the house. We have water but water table is up and
pump
surrounded with debris may not last long. Plumber would not take a
partial hit on his bill but I paid him anyway. I should get water
for
transition to new well in a week or so. Neighbor could supply me
through a hose but it freezes with low temperatures. I had
supplied the
previous owner for a week a while back when they had the same
problem
but weather was nice.

Just hired a well digger to put in a new well since the old one is
partially collapsed and new one will be needed sooner or later.
His
costs are also less for a new pump, plumbing and pressure tank than
the
plumber's. My previous neighbor recommended him after going
through the
same process.

My plumber who did good work in the past and will now be history
has
taught me the lesson of not getting a plumber to work on your well.


Let me get this right. Your ****ty old well collapsed and you're
trying to
blame the plumber, who you say did good work in the past? He didn't
collapse
it by pulling and replacing a pump.


No he is trying to say the plumber is more expensive and still might
be able to fix your problem.
If you have a well problem, call a well company.

And the result would not have been the same, anyway? A well company is
going to eat the cost?

"He pulled the pump, put a new one on to discover that the well must
have
collapsed as it would only go to 3/4 previous depth. Then no matter
what he did, he could not pull it out. Plumber would not take a
partial hit on his bill but I paid him anyway. My plumber who did good
work in the past and will now be history"


What did the plumber do that was wrong and why should he take a hit on
the bill for what he did, given that Frank's ****ty old well collapsed?
IDK what they do where Frank lives, but here, the casing goes the depth
of the well. I've had a well that was 180 ft deep with a casing all the
way. Perhaps they have good wells that cost more and ****ty wells for
cheapskates?

The well company would have diagnosed the problem faster (less labor)
and they might have given him a break on that call because he was
drilling a well. They get a better price on pumps because they buy in
bulk..

It's pure speculation. We have no info as to how much experience that
plumber has with wells and pumps, what discounts he gets on materials.
A collapsed well is still a collapsed well and the plumber didn't do it.
Yes, maybe a well driller might have given him a break. It's also
possible that he could have chosen a well company that said, it's
$6K for a new well, we'll forget about the existing $500 bill for the
work we;ve done. And he might find another well company that will drill
it for $5500 or less anyway. But the bottom line here is that despite
what you claim, Frank is clearly ****ed at the plumber, who did nothing
wrong, as evidenced by:

"My plumber who did good work in the past and will now be history has
taught me the lesson of not getting a plumber to work on your well."

He's like Trump, always blame someone else.

He's not blaming someone else, he's just realised that using
a well company to do stuff with your well can be better value.

On Friday, January 25, 2019 at 12:30:37 PM UTC-5, Rod Speed wrote:
"trader_4" wrote in message
...
On Friday, January 25, 2019 at 11:49:14 AM UTC-5, wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 07:55:49 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:

On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 10:02:47 PM UTC-5,
wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 13:42:42 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:

On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 3:58:54 PM UTC-5, Frank wrote:
Submersible pump failed on my well. Plumber has worked on it in
the
past and installed new pump and pressure tank over 10 years ago.

He pulled the pump, put a new one on to discover that the well must
have
collapsed as it would only go to 3/4 previous depth. Then no
matter
what he did, he could not pull it out. He had to cut off the top
of the
pipe to hook to the house. We have water but water table is up and
pump
surrounded with debris may not last long. Plumber would not take a
partial hit on his bill but I paid him anyway. I should get water
for
transition to new well in a week or so. Neighbor could supply me
through a hose but it freezes with low temperatures. I had
supplied the
previous owner for a week a while back when they had the same
problem
but weather was nice.

Just hired a well digger to put in a new well since the old one is
partially collapsed and new one will be needed sooner or later.
His
costs are also less for a new pump, plumbing and pressure tank than
the
plumber's. My previous neighbor recommended him after going
through the
same process.

My plumber who did good work in the past and will now be history
has
taught me the lesson of not getting a plumber to work on your well.


Let me get this right. Your ****ty old well collapsed and you're
trying to
blame the plumber, who you say did good work in the past? He didn't
collapse
it by pulling and replacing a pump.


No he is trying to say the plumber is more expensive and still might
be able to fix your problem.
If you have a well problem, call a well company.

And the result would not have been the same, anyway? A well company is
going to eat the cost?

"He pulled the pump, put a new one on to discover that the well must
have
collapsed as it would only go to 3/4 previous depth. Then no matter
what he did, he could not pull it out. Plumber would not take a
partial hit on his bill but I paid him anyway. My plumber who did good
work in the past and will now be history"


What did the plumber do that was wrong and why should he take a hit on
the bill for what he did, given that Frank's ****ty old well collapsed?
IDK what they do where Frank lives, but here, the casing goes the depth
of the well. I've had a well that was 180 ft deep with a casing all the
way. Perhaps they have good wells that cost more and ****ty wells for
cheapskates?

The well company would have diagnosed the problem faster (less labor)
and they might have given him a break on that call because he was
drilling a well. They get a better price on pumps because they buy in
bulk..

It's pure speculation. We have no info as to how much experience that
plumber has with wells and pumps, what discounts he gets on materials.
A collapsed well is still a collapsed well and the plumber didn't do it.
Yes, maybe a well driller might have given him a break. It's also
possible that he could have chosen a well company that said, it's
$6K for a new well, we'll forget about the existing $500 bill for the
work we;ve done. And he might find another well company that will drill
it for $5500 or less anyway. But the bottom line here is that despite
what you claim, Frank is clearly ****ed at the plumber, who did nothing
wrong, as evidenced by:

"My plumber who did good work in the past and will now be history has
taught me the lesson of not getting a plumber to work on your well."

He's like Trump, always blame someone else.

He's not blaming someone else, he's just realised that using
a well company to do stuff with your well can be better value.

Of course he's blaming the plumber, you dumb troll:

"My plumber who did good work in the past and will now be history has
taught me the lesson of not getting a plumber to work on your well."

On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 08:47:22 -0500, not my real pseudonym
wrote:

On 1/24/2019 3:58 PM, Frank wrote:
Submersible pump failed on my well.* Plumber has worked on it in the past and installed new pump and pressure tank over 10 years ago.

He pulled the pump, put a new one on to discover that the well must have collapsed as it would only go to 3/4 previous depth. Then no matter what he did, he could not pull it out.* He had to cut off the top of the pipe to hook to the house.* We have
water but water table is up and pump surrounded with debris may not last long.* Plumber would not take a partial hit on his bill but I paid him anyway.* I should get water for transition to new well in a week or so.* Neighbor could supply me through a
hose but it freezes with low temperatures.* I had supplied the previous owner for a week a while back when they had the same problem but weather was nice.

Just hired a well digger to put in a new well since the old one is partially collapsed and new one will be needed sooner or later. His costs are also less for a new pump, plumbing and pressure tank than the plumber's.* My previous neighbor recommended
him after going through the same process.

My plumber who did good work in the past and will now be history has taught me the lesson of not getting a plumber to work on your well.


Just curious but how/why did the well collapse?* Generally wells are entirely encased in PVC with a slotted bottom section that allows the water to flow in but prevents collapse.* Did the slotted PVC section fail?
Perhaps an older well with a steel or transite casing?

On 1/25/2019 12:06 PM, trader_4 wrote:
He's like Trump, always blame someone else.


And you're always blaming President Trump.Â* ;-)

On Friday, January 25, 2019 at 1:14:23 PM UTC-5, George wrote:
On 1/25/2019 12:06 PM, trader_4 wrote:
He's like Trump, always blame someone else.


And you're always blaming President Trump.Â* ;-)

No, only when he's wrong and does something stupid. It may look like that
to you because Trump does something wrong and stupid so frequently. I
supported him here for the past few weeks on his reduced, very reasonable
request for a few hundred miles of border fence/wall for example.

BTW, for another example, he's going to make an address in a few minutes
about a deal to end the shutdown. If he does that without getting his
wall, what say you? Another Trump triumph or failure?

"trader_4" wrote in message
...
On Friday, January 25, 2019 at 12:30:37 PM UTC-5, Rod Speed wrote:
"trader_4" wrote in message
...
On Friday, January 25, 2019 at 11:49:14 AM UTC-5,
wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 07:55:49 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:

On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 10:02:47 PM UTC-5,
wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 13:42:42 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:

On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 3:58:54 PM UTC-5, Frank wrote:
Submersible pump failed on my well. Plumber has worked on it in
the
past and installed new pump and pressure tank over 10 years ago.

He pulled the pump, put a new one on to discover that the well
must
have
collapsed as it would only go to 3/4 previous depth. Then no
matter
what he did, he could not pull it out. He had to cut off the
top
of the
pipe to hook to the house. We have water but water table is up
and
pump
surrounded with debris may not last long. Plumber would not
take a
partial hit on his bill but I paid him anyway. I should get
water
for
transition to new well in a week or so. Neighbor could supply
me
through a hose but it freezes with low temperatures. I had
supplied the
previous owner for a week a while back when they had the same
problem
but weather was nice.

Just hired a well digger to put in a new well since the old one
is
partially collapsed and new one will be needed sooner or later.
His
costs are also less for a new pump, plumbing and pressure tank
than
the
plumber's. My previous neighbor recommended him after going
through the
same process.

My plumber who did good work in the past and will now be history
has
taught me the lesson of not getting a plumber to work on your
well.


Let me get this right. Your ****ty old well collapsed and you're
trying to
blame the plumber, who you say did good work in the past? He
didn't
collapse
it by pulling and replacing a pump.


No he is trying to say the plumber is more expensive and still
might
be able to fix your problem.
If you have a well problem, call a well company.

And the result would not have been the same, anyway? A well company
is
going to eat the cost?

"He pulled the pump, put a new one on to discover that the well must
have
collapsed as it would only go to 3/4 previous depth. Then no matter
what he did, he could not pull it out. Plumber would not take a
partial hit on his bill but I paid him anyway. My plumber who did
good
work in the past and will now be history"


What did the plumber do that was wrong and why should he take a hit
on
the bill for what he did, given that Frank's ****ty old well
collapsed?
IDK what they do where Frank lives, but here, the casing goes the
depth
of the well. I've had a well that was 180 ft deep with a casing all
the
way. Perhaps they have good wells that cost more and ****ty wells
for
cheapskates?

The well company would have diagnosed the problem faster (less labor)
and they might have given him a break on that call because he was
drilling a well. They get a better price on pumps because they buy in
bulk..

It's pure speculation. We have no info as to how much experience that
plumber has with wells and pumps, what discounts he gets on materials.
A collapsed well is still a collapsed well and the plumber didn't do
it.
Yes, maybe a well driller might have given him a break. It's also
possible that he could have chosen a well company that said, it's
$6K for a new well, we'll forget about the existing $500 bill for the
work we;ve done. And he might find another well company that will
drill
it for $5500 or less anyway. But the bottom line here is that despite
what you claim, Frank is clearly ****ed at the plumber, who did nothing
wrong, as evidenced by:

"My plumber who did good work in the past and will now be history has
taught me the lesson of not getting a plumber to work on your well."

He's like Trump, always blame someone else.

He's not blaming someone else, he's just realised that using
a well company to do stuff with your well can be better value.

Of course he's blaming the plumber, you dumb troll:

"My plumber who did good work in the past and will now be history has
taught me the lesson of not getting a plumber to work on your well."

Thats not blaming, ****wit, thats just saying that the well company is
better value with wells.

"trader_4" wrote in message
...
On Friday, January 25, 2019 at 1:14:23 PM UTC-5, George wrote:
On 1/25/2019 12:06 PM, trader_4 wrote:
He's like Trump, always blame someone else.


And you're always blaming President Trump. ;-)

No, only when he's wrong and does something stupid. It may look like that
to you because Trump does something wrong and stupid so frequently. I
supported him here for the past few weeks on his reduced, very reasonable
request for a few hundred miles of border fence/wall for example.

BTW, for another example, he's going to make an address in a few minutes
about a deal to end the shutdown. If he does that without getting his
wall, what say you? Another Trump triumph or failure?

Just another cave claimed to be a triumph, just like NAFTA.

What Trump does all the time.

On Sat, 26 Jan 2019 05:32:25 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rot Speed,
the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


FLUSH troll****

Did I get this right? You've been up and trolling since 1 am in Australia
until 5:32 am (so far) without any break, AGAIN, you totally ****ed up
senile Ozzie cretin? BG

--
Norman Wells addressing senile Rot:
"Ah, the voice of scum speaks."
MID:

On Sat, 26 Jan 2019 05:40:06 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rot Speed,
the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

BTW, for another example, he's going to make an address in a few minutes
about a deal to end the shutdown. If he does that without getting his
wall, what say you? Another Trump triumph or failure?

Just another cave claimed to be a triumph, just like NAFTA.

What Trump does all the time.

Even Trump doesn't appear to be a notorious auto-contradicting,
"all-knowing" asshole like you, senile Rot!

--
Kerr-Mudd,John addressing senile Rot:
"Auto-contradictor Rod is back! (in the KF)"
MID:

On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 09:06:41 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:

On Friday, January 25, 2019 at 11:49:14 AM UTC-5, wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 07:55:49 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:

On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 10:02:47 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 13:42:42 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:

On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 3:58:54 PM UTC-5, Frank wrote:
Submersible pump failed on my well. Plumber has worked on it in the
past and installed new pump and pressure tank over 10 years ago.

He pulled the pump, put a new one on to discover that the well must have
collapsed as it would only go to 3/4 previous depth. Then no matter
what he did, he could not pull it out. He had to cut off the top of the
pipe to hook to the house. We have water but water table is up and pump
surrounded with debris may not last long. Plumber would not take a
partial hit on his bill but I paid him anyway. I should get water for
transition to new well in a week or so. Neighbor could supply me
through a hose but it freezes with low temperatures. I had supplied the
previous owner for a week a while back when they had the same problem
but weather was nice.

Just hired a well digger to put in a new well since the old one is
partially collapsed and new one will be needed sooner or later. His
costs are also less for a new pump, plumbing and pressure tank than the
plumber's. My previous neighbor recommended him after going through the
same process.

My plumber who did good work in the past and will now be history has
taught me the lesson of not getting a plumber to work on your well.


Let me get this right. Your ****ty old well collapsed and you're trying to
blame the plumber, who you say did good work in the past? He didn't collapse
it by pulling and replacing a pump.


No he is trying to say the plumber is more expensive and still might
be able to fix your problem.
If you have a well problem, call a well company.

And the result would not have been the same, anyway? A well company is
going to eat the cost?

"He pulled the pump, put a new one on to discover that the well must have
collapsed as it would only go to 3/4 previous depth. Then no matter
what he did, he could not pull it out. Plumber would not take a
partial hit on his bill but I paid him anyway. My plumber who did good
work in the past and will now be history"


What did the plumber do that was wrong and why should he take a hit on
the bill for what he did, given that Frank's ****ty old well collapsed?
IDK what they do where Frank lives, but here, the casing goes the depth
of the well. I've had a well that was 180 ft deep with a casing all the
way. Perhaps they have good wells that cost more and ****ty wells for
cheapskates?

The well company would have diagnosed the problem faster (less labor)
and they might have given him a break on that call because he was
drilling a well. They get a better price on pumps because they buy in
bulk..

It's pure speculation. We have no info as to how much experience that
plumber has with wells and pumps, what discounts he gets on materials.
A collapsed well is still a collapsed well and the plumber didn't do it.
Yes, maybe a well driller might have given him a break. It's also
possible that he could have chosen a well company that said, it's
$6K for a new well, we'll forget about the existing $500 bill for the
work we;ve done. And he might find another well company that will drill
it for $5500 or less anyway. But the bottom line here is that despite
what you claim, Frank is clearly ****ed at the plumber, who did nothing
wrong, as evidenced by:

"My plumber who did good work in the past and will now be history has
taught me the lesson of not getting a plumber to work on your well."

It sounds to me like he just learned a lesson he wants to share with
us. If your well is broke, call a well guy. Do you call an
electrician when your car won't start?


He's like Trump, always blame someone else.

Off topic bull**** in an otherwise on topic post.

On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 09:35:29 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:

"has taught me the lesson of not getting a plumber to work on your well".

What part of that is so hard to understand?

On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 12:48:07 -0500, Clare Snyder
wrote:

On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 08:47:22 -0500, not my real pseudonym
wrote:

On 1/24/2019 3:58 PM, Frank wrote:
Submersible pump failed on my well.Â* Plumber has worked on it in the past and installed new pump and pressure tank over 10 years ago.

He pulled the pump, put a new one on to discover that the well must have collapsed as it would only go to 3/4 previous depth. Then no matter what he did, he could not pull it out.Â* He had to cut off the top of the pipe to hook to the house.Â* We have
water but water table is up and pump surrounded with debris may not last long.Â* Plumber would not take a partial hit on his bill but I paid him anyway.Â* I should get water for transition to new well in a week or so.Â* Neighbor could supply me through a
hose but it freezes with low temperatures.Â* I had supplied the previous owner for a week a while back when they had the same problem but weather was nice.

Just hired a well digger to put in a new well since the old one is partially collapsed and new one will be needed sooner or later. His costs are also less for a new pump, plumbing and pressure tank than the plumber's.Â* My previous neighbor recommended
him after going through the same process.

My plumber who did good work in the past and will now be history has taught me the lesson of not getting a plumber to work on your well.


Just curious but how/why did the well collapse?Â* Generally wells are entirely encased in PVC with a slotted bottom section that allows the water to flow in but prevents collapse.Â* Did the slotted PVC section fail?
Perhaps an older well with a steel or transite casing?

That is what I was thinking.
In real life it doesn't even have to "Collapse" just get enough rust
on it that the new pump won't go down.
I suppose you could drop a camera down there these days and give it a
look.
You might be able to knock enough crud out to buy some time but he is
still looking at a new well soon if the casing is compromised.

On 1/24/2019 3:58 PM, Frank wrote:
Submersible pump failed on my well.Â* Plumber has worked on it in the past and installed new pump and pressure tank over 10 years ago.

He pulled the pump, put a new one on to discover that the well must have collapsed as it would only go to 3/4 previous depth. Then no matter what he did, he could not pull it out.Â* He had to cut off the top of the pipe to hook to the house.Â* We have
water but water table is up and pump surrounded with debris may not last long.Â* Plumber would not take a partial hit on his bill but I paid him anyway.Â* I should get water for transition to new well in a week or so.Â* Neighbor could supply me through a
hose but it freezes with low temperatures.Â* I had supplied the previous owner for a week a while back when they had the same problem but weather was nice.

Just hired a well digger to put in a new well since the old one is partially collapsed and new one will be needed sooner or later. His costs are also less for a new pump, plumbing and pressure tank than the plumber's.Â* My previous neighbor recommended
him after going through the same process.

My plumber who did good work in the past and will now be history has taught me the lesson of not getting a plumber to work on your well.


Changing out a submersible well pump hung at 100'Â* is an easy DIY job...until something goes wrong.Â* At that point you probably need a $500,000 drill rig and miscellaneous support equipment.

wrote in message
...
On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 09:35:29 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:

"has taught me the lesson of not getting a plumber to work on your well".

What part of that is so hard to understand?

He actually is that thick.

On Sat, 26 Jan 2019 09:06:37 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rot Speed,
the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


"has taught me the lesson of not getting a plumber to work on your well".

What part of that is so hard to understand?

He actually is that thick.

Obviously neither of you two dimwits could make out the true meaning of the
entire sentence! LOL

--
about senile Rot Speed:
"This is like having a conversation with someone with brain damage."
MID:

On 1/25/2019 4:42 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 09:35:29 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:

"has taught me the lesson of not getting a plumber to work on your well".

What part of that is so hard to understand?


You can't teach stupid. Traitor is in my kf.

On 1/25/2019 4:46 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 12:48:07 -0500, Clare Snyder
wrote:

On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 08:47:22 -0500, not my real pseudonym
wrote:

On 1/24/2019 3:58 PM, Frank wrote:
Submersible pump failed on my well.Â* Plumber has worked on it in the past and installed new pump and pressure tank over 10 years ago.

He pulled the pump, put a new one on to discover that the well must have collapsed as it would only go to 3/4 previous depth. Then no matter what he did, he could not pull it out.Â* He had to cut off the top of the pipe to hook to the house.Â* We have
water but water table is up and pump surrounded with debris may not last long.Â* Plumber would not take a partial hit on his bill but I paid him anyway.Â* I should get water for transition to new well in a week or so.Â* Neighbor could supply me through a
hose but it freezes with low temperatures.Â* I had supplied the previous owner for a week a while back when they had the same problem but weather was nice.

Just hired a well digger to put in a new well since the old one is partially collapsed and new one will be needed sooner or later. His costs are also less for a new pump, plumbing and pressure tank than the plumber's.Â* My previous neighbor recommended
him after going through the same process.

My plumber who did good work in the past and will now be history has taught me the lesson of not getting a plumber to work on your well.


Just curious but how/why did the well collapse?Â* Generally wells are entirely encased in PVC with a slotted bottom section that allows the water to flow in but prevents collapse.Â* Did the slotted PVC section fail?
Perhaps an older well with a steel or transite casing?

That is what I was thinking.
In real life it doesn't even have to "Collapse" just get enough rust
on it that the new pump won't go down.
I suppose you could drop a camera down there these days and give it a
look.
You might be able to knock enough crud out to buy some time but he is
still looking at a new well soon if the casing is compromised.


As mentioned, I have contracted with a well digger. First he needs to
get a permit. He says he works in any weather but I pointed out that I
had pictures of 2 ft of snow on the ground on this date. We do have
water for now from the old well. There is water where the pump is and
when we moved in we were told we had 15 gal per minute recovery rate. I
was surprised when neighbors went dry a couple of years ago as his well
head is less than 200 ft from mine and the well digger only dug the new
one about 20 ft away.

On Friday, January 25, 2019 at 4:42:12 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 09:35:29 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:

"has taught me the lesson of not getting a plumber to work on your well".

What part of that is so hard to understand?

Nothing. What part of the rest that actually goes to my point and that
you omitted is hard to understand for you?

"Plumber would not take a partial hit on his bill but I paid him anyway.

My plumber who did good work in the past and will now be history has
taught me the lesson of not getting a plumber to work on your well."


Frank expected the plumber to take the hit on his bill for his legitimate
work because he has a ****ty well that collapsed. The plumber didn't
collapse it. The plumber, in fact, left him with a functioning well!
And now the plumber, who did good work in the past, and by the account
of what happened here, also did good work on the well, is now blamed.
Frank's mad that he wouldn't discount the work, and he dumped him from
doing future work.

On Friday, January 25, 2019 at 4:40:27 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 09:06:41 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:

On Friday, January 25, 2019 at 11:49:14 AM UTC-5, wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 07:55:49 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:

On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 10:02:47 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 13:42:42 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:

On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 3:58:54 PM UTC-5, Frank wrote:
Submersible pump failed on my well. Plumber has worked on it in the
past and installed new pump and pressure tank over 10 years ago.

He pulled the pump, put a new one on to discover that the well must have
collapsed as it would only go to 3/4 previous depth. Then no matter
what he did, he could not pull it out. He had to cut off the top of the
pipe to hook to the house. We have water but water table is up and pump
surrounded with debris may not last long. Plumber would not take a
partial hit on his bill but I paid him anyway. I should get water for
transition to new well in a week or so. Neighbor could supply me
through a hose but it freezes with low temperatures. I had supplied the
previous owner for a week a while back when they had the same problem
but weather was nice.

Just hired a well digger to put in a new well since the old one is
partially collapsed and new one will be needed sooner or later. His
costs are also less for a new pump, plumbing and pressure tank than the
plumber's. My previous neighbor recommended him after going through the
same process.

My plumber who did good work in the past and will now be history has
taught me the lesson of not getting a plumber to work on your well.


Let me get this right. Your ****ty old well collapsed and you're trying to
blame the plumber, who you say did good work in the past? He didn't collapse
it by pulling and replacing a pump.


No he is trying to say the plumber is more expensive and still might
be able to fix your problem.
If you have a well problem, call a well company.

And the result would not have been the same, anyway? A well company is
going to eat the cost?

"He pulled the pump, put a new one on to discover that the well must have
collapsed as it would only go to 3/4 previous depth. Then no matter
what he did, he could not pull it out. Plumber would not take a
partial hit on his bill but I paid him anyway. My plumber who did good
work in the past and will now be history"


What did the plumber do that was wrong and why should he take a hit on
the bill for what he did, given that Frank's ****ty old well collapsed?
IDK what they do where Frank lives, but here, the casing goes the depth
of the well. I've had a well that was 180 ft deep with a casing all the
way. Perhaps they have good wells that cost more and ****ty wells for
cheapskates?

The well company would have diagnosed the problem faster (less labor)
and they might have given him a break on that call because he was
drilling a well. They get a better price on pumps because they buy in
bulk..

It's pure speculation. We have no info as to how much experience that
plumber has with wells and pumps, what discounts he gets on materials.
A collapsed well is still a collapsed well and the plumber didn't do it.
Yes, maybe a well driller might have given him a break. It's also
possible that he could have chosen a well company that said, it's
$6K for a new well, we'll forget about the existing $500 bill for the
work we;ve done. And he might find another well company that will drill
it for $5500 or less anyway. But the bottom line here is that despite
what you claim, Frank is clearly ****ed at the plumber, who did nothing
wrong, as evidenced by:

"My plumber who did good work in the past and will now be history has
taught me the lesson of not getting a plumber to work on your well."

It sounds to me like he just learned a lesson he wants to share with
us. If your well is broke, call a well guy. Do you call an
electrician when your car won't start?


The problem isn't that he called a plumber. The problem is that he has
a ****ty well that's collapsed. The plumber didn't collapse it or
do anything wrong. In fact, per the story, the plumber replaced
the failed pump and left him with a functioning well!
Frank is just mad that the plumber wouldn't discount his bill. Why
should he? Would you? Would you give him a pump at a reduced price?
Free labor? And hence, while he says he did good work in
the past, he says now this plumber is history.


He's like Trump, always blame someone else.

Off topic bull**** in an otherwise on topic post.


Trump is an example of the same behavior, cheapskate, thinks someone
else who did good work for them should eat the bill, blames others
for anything, no matter how illogical.

"trader_4" wrote in message
...
On Friday, January 25, 2019 at 4:42:12 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 09:35:29 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:

"has taught me the lesson of not getting a plumber to work on your
well".

What part of that is so hard to understand?

Nothing. What part of the rest that actually goes to my point and that
you omitted is hard to understand for you?

"Plumber would not take a partial hit on his bill but I paid him anyway.

My plumber who did good work in the past and will now be history has
taught me the lesson of not getting a plumber to work on your well."


Frank expected the plumber to take the hit on his bill for his legitimate
work because he has a ****ty well that collapsed. The plumber didn't
collapse it. The plumber, in fact, left him with a functioning well!
And now the plumber, who did good work in the past, and by the account
of what happened here, also did good work on the well, is now blamed.

He didnt blame him for anything.

Frank's mad that he wouldn't discount the work,

Not mad so much as irritated.

and he dumped him from doing future work.

Only on the well, because the well company is better value with wells.

On Saturday, January 26, 2019 at 2:17:39 PM UTC-5, Rod Speed wrote:
"trader_4" wrote in message
...
On Friday, January 25, 2019 at 4:42:12 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 09:35:29 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:

"has taught me the lesson of not getting a plumber to work on your
well".

What part of that is so hard to understand?

Nothing. What part of the rest that actually goes to my point and that
you omitted is hard to understand for you?

"Plumber would not take a partial hit on his bill but I paid him anyway..

My plumber who did good work in the past and will now be history has
taught me the lesson of not getting a plumber to work on your well."


Frank expected the plumber to take the hit on his bill for his legitimate
work because he has a ****ty well that collapsed. The plumber didn't
collapse it. The plumber, in fact, left him with a functioning well!
And now the plumber, who did good work in the past, and by the account
of what happened here, also did good work on the well, is now blamed.

He didnt blame him for anything.

Frank's mad that he wouldn't discount the work,

Not mad so much as irritated.

and he dumped him from doing future work.

Only on the well, because the well company is better value with wells.

The plumber can't drill a well, ****wit. And by bitching that the plumber
wouldn't cut his bill and saying that the plumber, despite having done good
work in the past, is now history, means to me that he's done with him for
good.

"My plumber who did good work in the past and will now be history "

Is English your second language or are you just handicapped from
inbreeding from the early days of being a prison colony?

"trader_4" wrote in message
...
On Saturday, January 26, 2019 at 2:17:39 PM UTC-5, Rod Speed wrote:
"trader_4" wrote in message
...
On Friday, January 25, 2019 at 4:42:12 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 09:35:29 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:

"has taught me the lesson of not getting a plumber to work on your
well".

What part of that is so hard to understand?

Nothing. What part of the rest that actually goes to my point and that
you omitted is hard to understand for you?

"Plumber would not take a partial hit on his bill but I paid him
anyway.

My plumber who did good work in the past and will now be history has
taught me the lesson of not getting a plumber to work on your well."


Frank expected the plumber to take the hit on his bill for his
legitimate
work because he has a ****ty well that collapsed. The plumber didn't
collapse it. The plumber, in fact, left him with a functioning well!
And now the plumber, who did good work in the past, and by the account
of what happened here, also did good work on the well, is now blamed.

He didnt blame him for anything.

Frank's mad that he wouldn't discount the work,

Not mad so much as irritated.

and he dumped him from doing future work.

Only on the well, because the well company is better value with wells.

The plumber can't drill a well, ****wit.

Still would have been better value to call the well
company with the original well problem, ****wit.

And by bitching that the plumber wouldn't cut his bill and saying
that the plumber, despite having done good work in the past, is
now history, means to me that he's done with him for good.

More fool you.

"My plumber who did good work in the past and will now be history "

Pity about the bit quoted at the top.

reams of your **** any 2 year old could leave for dead flushed where it
belongs

On Sun, 27 Jan 2019 06:17:23 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rot Speed,
the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


Frank expected the plumber to take the hit on his bill for his legitimate
work because he has a ****ty well that collapsed. The plumber didn't
collapse it. The plumber, in fact, left him with a functioning well!
And now the plumber, who did good work in the past, and by the account
of what happened here, also did good work on the well, is now blamed.

He didn¢t blame him for anything.

He DID! His wording "is now history" says it all! Just HOW senile are you,
you obnoxious senile pest?

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On Sun, 27 Jan 2019 06:52:14 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rot Speed,
the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


reams of your **** any 2 year old could leave for dead flushed where it
belongs

Lost yet another argument, senile cretin? LOL

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Sqwertz to Rot Speed:
"This is just a hunch, but I'm betting you're kinda an argumentative
asshole.
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