All federal offices are closed todayin the US.

Is that normal for the day of a president's funeral? Or is it a stunt
by Stumpie to a) to make it look like he respected Bush, b) to make it
look like he respects anyone, c) to try to set a precedent for when he
dies, may the day come soon?

I don't remember this being done for any of the other presidents who
have died, and there have been quite a few in the last 35 years, for
example.

On 12/5/18 5:47 AM, micky wrote:
All federal offices are closed todayin the US.

Is that normal for the day of a president's funeral? Or is it a stunt
by Stumpie to a) to make it look like he respected Bush,


President Bush is a true war hero.

On Wed, 05 Dec 2018 05:47:23 -0500, micky
wrote:

All federal offices are closed todayin the US.
Is that normal for the day of a president's funeral? Or is it a stunt
by Stumpie to a) to make it look like he respected Bush, b) to make it
look like he respects anyone, c) to try to set a precedent for when he
dies, may the day come soon?
I don't remember this being done for any of the other presidents who
have died, and there have been quite a few in the last 35 years, for
example.



Read, learn, evolve ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_day_of_mourning

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_funeral

On Wed, 05 Dec 2018 05:47:23 -0500, micky
wrote:

All federal offices are closed todayin the US.

Is that normal for the day of a president's funeral? Or is it a stunt
by Stumpie to a) to make it look like he respected Bush, b) to make it
look like he respects anyone, c) to try to set a precedent for when he
dies, may the day come soon?

I don't remember this being done for any of the other presidents who
have died, and there have been quite a few in the last 35 years, for
example.

The government will use anything as an excuse to close.

In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 05 Dec 2018 08:08:17 -0500,
wrote:

On Wed, 05 Dec 2018 05:47:23 -0500, micky
wrote:

All federal offices are closed todayin the US.
Is that normal for the day of a president's funeral? Or is it a stunt
by Stumpie to a) to make it look like he respected Bush, b) to make it
look like he respects anyone, c) to try to set a precedent for when he
dies, may the day come soon?
I don't remember this being done for any of the other presidents who
have died, and there have been quite a few in the last 35 years, for
example.



Read, learn, evolve ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_day_of_mourning

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_funeral

Good try but neither of these say a word about whether it's customary in
the US to close federal offices on the day of a president's funeral.

This page says it was for the funeral in 1994 and the 4 preceding it. I
haven't checked later ones but at least it's far from unheard of. So
Stumpie is off the hook on that part.

But the issue is not whether it's a state funeral. Harry Truman didn't
have one but it does say the offices were closed for him. That was my
question.

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On 12/5/18 5:47 AM, micky wrote:
All federal offices are closed todayin the US.

Is that normal for the day of a president's funeral? Or is it a stunt
by Stumpie to a) to make it look like he respected Bush,


President Bush is a true war hero.

So was JFK, but I dont recall that happened when he as buried.
I do recall his little kid being told to salute as the corpse went by tho.

"devnull" wrote in message
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On 12/5/18 5:47 AM, micky wrote:
All federal offices are closed todayin the US.

Is that normal for the day of a president's funeral? Or is it a stunt
by Stumpie to a) to make it look like he respected Bush,


President Bush is a true war hero.

So was Ike but that didnt happen with his.

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On Wed, 05 Dec 2018 05:47:23 -0500, micky
wrote:

All federal offices are closed todayin the US.
Is that normal for the day of a president's funeral? Or is it a stunt
by Stumpie to a) to make it look like he respected Bush, b) to make it
look like he respects anyone, c) to try to set a precedent for when he
dies, may the day come soon?
I don't remember this being done for any of the other presidents who
have died, and there have been quite a few in the last 35 years, for
example.



Read, learn, evolve ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_day_of_mourning

That doesn't say that those all got all federal offices closed for the day.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_funeral

Ditto.

On Wed, 05 Dec 2018 15:03:50 -0500, micky
wrote:

In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 05 Dec 2018 08:08:17 -0500,
wrote:

On Wed, 05 Dec 2018 05:47:23 -0500, micky
wrote:

All federal offices are closed todayin the US.
Is that normal for the day of a president's funeral? Or is it a stunt
by Stumpie to a) to make it look like he respected Bush, b) to make it
look like he respects anyone, c) to try to set a precedent for when he
dies, may the day come soon?
I don't remember this being done for any of the other presidents who
have died, and there have been quite a few in the last 35 years, for
example.



Read, learn, evolve ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_day_of_mourning

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_funeral

Good try but neither of these say a word about whether it's customary in
the US to close federal offices on the day of a president's funeral.

This page says it was for the funeral in 1994 and the 4 preceding it. I
haven't checked later ones but at least it's far from unheard of. So
Stumpie is off the hook on that part.

But the issue is not whether it's a state funeral. Harry Truman didn't
have one but it does say the offices were closed for him. That was my
question.

When Carter dies they may take a week off, certainly a long weekend.
OTOH looking at them all sitting together Carter may outlive Bill.

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wrote:



"devnull" wrote in message
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On 12/5/18 5:47 AM, micky wrote:
All federal offices are closed todayin the US.

Is that normal for the day of a president's funeral? Or is it a stunt
by Stumpie to a) to make it look like he respected Bush,


President Bush is a true war hero.

So was JFK, but I dont recall that happened when he as buried.
I do recall his little kid being told to salute as the corpse went by tho.

Jesus, JFK's funeral lasted a week and the whole damned city was shut
down. (I lived there and went to school a block from the White House
in 1963)
I am also not quite sure how he was a war hero. If he was John
McGillicutty he would have been court marshaled for insubordination,
hazarding his vessel and conduct unbecoming. When he was sitting there
in the dark with his engines off he was disobeying a direct order and
2 of his crew members paid the ultimate price for it.
My father was in Naval intelligence after the war and he used to spit
at the TV whenever he heard that PT109 bull****.

On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 07:36:02 +1100, "Rod Speed"
wrote:



"devnull" wrote in message
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On 12/5/18 5:47 AM, micky wrote:
All federal offices are closed todayin the US.

Is that normal for the day of a president's funeral? Or is it a stunt
by Stumpie to a) to make it look like he respected Bush,


President Bush is a true war hero.

So was Ike but that didnt happen with his.

Not true again.

On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 07:44:42 +1100, "Rod Speed"
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On Wed, 05 Dec 2018 05:47:23 -0500, micky
wrote:

All federal offices are closed todayin the US.
Is that normal for the day of a president's funeral? Or is it a stunt
by Stumpie to a) to make it look like he respected Bush, b) to make it
look like he respects anyone, c) to try to set a precedent for when he
dies, may the day come soon?
I don't remember this being done for any of the other presidents who
have died, and there have been quite a few in the last 35 years, for
example.



Read, learn, evolve ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_day_of_mourning

That doesn't say that those all got all federal offices closed for the day.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_funeral

Ditto.

They shut down the government for an inch of snow.
If you pile that many dignitaries into downtown DC traffic will be
shut down on most of the main streets and nobody could get to work if
they wanted too.

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"devnull" wrote in message
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On 12/5/18 5:47 AM, micky wrote:
All federal offices are closed todayin the US.

Is that normal for the day of a president's funeral? Or is it a stunt
by Stumpie to a) to make it look like he respected Bush,


President Bush is a true war hero.

So was JFK, but I dont recall that happened when he as buried.
I do recall his little kid being told to salute as the corpse went by tho.

Jesus, JFK's funeral lasted a week and
the whole damned city was shut down.

Like hell it was in the sense of all shops closed for a week.

(I lived there and went to school a
block from the White Housein 1963)

Which is why that school may have closed,
but all schools there didnt close for that week.

I am also not quite sure how he was a war hero.

Pretty basic really
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_F...E2%80%9319 45)

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"devnull" wrote in message
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On 12/5/18 5:47 AM, micky wrote:
All federal offices are closed todayin the US.

Is that normal for the day of a president's funeral? Or is it a stunt
by Stumpie to a) to make it look like he respected Bush,


President Bush is a true war hero.

So was Ike but that didnt happen with his.

Not true again.

Easy to claim.

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On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 07:35:22 +1100, "Rod Speed"
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"devnull" wrote in message
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On 12/5/18 5:47 AM, micky wrote:
All federal offices are closed todayin the US.

Is that normal for the day of a president's funeral? Or is it a stunt
by Stumpie to a) to make it look like he respected Bush,


President Bush is a true war hero.

So was JFK, but I dont recall that happened when he as buried.
I do recall his little kid being told to salute as the corpse went by tho.

Jesus, JFK's funeral lasted a week and
the whole damned city was shut down.

Like hell it was in the sense of all shops closed for a week.

(I lived there and went to school a
block from the White Housein 1963)

Which is why that school may have closed,
but all schools there didnt close for that week.


Yes they did along with all government offices.
I was there, you were half way around the world, probably still not
conceived.

I am also not quite sure how he was a war hero.

Pretty basic really
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_F...E2%80%9319 45)


That is certainly the legend that Joe Kennedy sold to the American
public and since his older son was just blown up , most likely
screwing up too, they let it slide.
There are original reports that the engines were off and they were
dead in the water when they saw the destroyer but time and a lot of
Kennedy money has made them disappear.

Maybe you did not read or failed to comprehend, my father worked for
navy intelligence in the 50s and he knew what was in the navy reports,
not what was planted in the New York Times.

As they say in Liberty Valence, "when legend becomes fact, print the
legend".

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On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 07:36:02 +1100, "Rod Speed"
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"devnull" wrote in message
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On 12/5/18 5:47 AM, micky wrote:
All federal offices are closed todayin the US.

Is that normal for the day of a president's funeral? Or is it a stunt
by Stumpie to a) to make it look like he respected Bush,


President Bush is a true war hero.

So was Ike but that didnt happen with his.

Not true again.

Easy to claim.

Easier to remember. I was in DC in 1969. Where were you?
They had more of a show for Eisenhower than we saw this week.

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On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 07:35:22 +1100, "Rod Speed"
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"devnull" wrote in message
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On 12/5/18 5:47 AM, micky wrote:
All federal offices are closed todayin the US.

Is that normal for the day of a president's funeral? Or is it a
stunt
by Stumpie to a) to make it look like he respected Bush,


President Bush is a true war hero.

So was JFK, but I dont recall that happened when he as buried.
I do recall his little kid being told to salute as the corpse went by
tho.

Jesus, JFK's funeral lasted a week and
the whole damned city was shut down.

Like hell it was in the sense of all shops closed for a week.

(I lived there and went to school a
block from the White Housein 1963)

Which is why that school may have closed,
but all schools there didnt close for that week.


Yes they did along with all government offices.

But all shops werent for that week.

I was there, you were half way around
the world, probably still not conceived.

You're wrong about that last too. I had
in fact long since left school by then.

I am also not quite sure how he was a war hero.

Pretty basic really
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_F...E2%80%9319 45)

That is certainly the legend that Joe
Kennedy sold to the American public

It isnt a legend, its a fact.

and since his older son was just blown up ,
most likely screwing up too, they let it slide.

His biographers certainly didnt.

There are original reports that the engines were off and they
were dead in the water when they saw the destroyer but time
and a lot of Kennedy money has made them disappear.

Not even possible to do that with biographers.

Maybe you did not read

Fraid so. Thats what I read, biographys.

or failed to comprehend, my father worked for navy intelligence
in the 50s and he knew what was in the navy reports,

So do the best of the biographers.

not what was planted in the New York Times.

That doesnt come from the NYT.

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On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 07:36:02 +1100, "Rod Speed"
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"devnull" wrote in message
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On 12/5/18 5:47 AM, micky wrote:
All federal offices are closed todayin the US.

Is that normal for the day of a president's funeral? Or is it a
stunt
by Stumpie to a) to make it look like he respected Bush,


President Bush is a true war hero.

So was Ike but that didnt happen with his.

Not true again.

Easy to claim.

Easier to remember. I was in DC in 1969.

So have no idea what happened in the rest of the USA.

They had more of a show for Eisenhower than we saw this week.

Irrelevant to whether they closed all the federal
offices in the entire USA that day. Didnt happen.

On Wednesday, December 5, 2018 at 4:47:46 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 07:35:22 +1100, "Rod Speed"
wrote:



"devnull" wrote in message
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On 12/5/18 5:47 AM, micky wrote:
All federal offices are closed todayin the US.

Is that normal for the day of a president's funeral? Or is it a stunt
by Stumpie to a) to make it look like he respected Bush,


President Bush is a true war hero.

So was JFK, but I dont recall that happened when he as buried.
I do recall his little kid being told to salute as the corpse went by tho.

Jesus, JFK's funeral lasted a week and the whole damned city was shut
down. (I lived there and went to school a block from the White House
in 1963)


Idk what the schools did, but JFK was assassinated on a Friday and buried at Arlington 3 days later, on Monday. That's 3 days, mostly a weekend, not a week. Thursday was Thanksgiving, so the schools would have been closed thur and fri for that.




I am also not quite sure how he was a war hero. If he was John
McGillicutty he would have been court marshaled for insubordination,
hazarding his vessel and conduct unbecoming. When he was sitting there
in the dark with his engines off he was disobeying a direct order and
2 of his crew members paid the ultimate price for it.
My father was in Naval intelligence after the war and he used to spit
at the TV whenever he heard that PT109 bull****.

On Wed, 05 Dec 2018 16:47:43 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 07:35:22 +1100, "Rod Speed"
wrote:



"devnull" wrote in message
...
On 12/5/18 5:47 AM, micky wrote:
All federal offices are closed todayin the US.

Is that normal for the day of a president's funeral? Or is it a stunt
by Stumpie to a) to make it look like he respected Bush,


President Bush is a true war hero.

So was JFK, but I dont recall that happened when he as buried.
I do recall his little kid being told to salute as the corpse went by tho.

Jesus, JFK's funeral lasted a week and the whole damned city was shut
down. (I lived there and went to school a block from the White House
in 1963)
I am also not quite sure how he was a war hero. If he was John
McGillicutty he would have been court marshaled for insubordination,
hazarding his vessel and conduct unbecoming. When he was sitting there
in the dark with his engines off he was disobeying a direct order and
2 of his crew members paid the ultimate price for it.

That's all bull**** of course. It's too late to Swiftboat Kennedy. Oswald beat you to it.

My father was in Naval intelligence after the war and he used to spit
at the TV whenever he heard that PT109 bull****.

I give that all the credence it deserves. A grown man spitting at a TV!

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On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 07:35:22 +1100, "Rod Speed"
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"devnull" wrote in message
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On 12/5/18 5:47 AM, micky wrote:
All federal offices are closed todayin the US.

Is that normal for the day of a president's funeral? Or is it a
stunt
by Stumpie to a) to make it look like he respected Bush,


President Bush is a true war hero.

So was JFK, but I dont recall that happened when he as buried.
I do recall his little kid being told to salute as the corpse went by
tho.

Jesus, JFK's funeral lasted a week and
the whole damned city was shut down.

Like hell it was in the sense of all shops closed for a week.

(I lived there and went to school a
block from the White Housein 1963)

Which is why that school may have closed,
but all schools there didnt close for that week.


Yes they did along with all government offices.

But all shops werent for that week.

I was there, you were half way around
the world, probably still not conceived.

You're wrong about that last too. I had
in fact long since left school by then.

I am also not quite sure how he was a war hero.

Pretty basic really
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_F...E2%80%9319 45)

That is certainly the legend that Joe
Kennedy sold to the American public

It isnt a legend, its a fact.

and since his older son was just blown up ,
most likely screwing up too, they let it slide.

His biographers certainly didnt.

There are original reports that the engines were off and they
were dead in the water when they saw the destroyer but time
and a lot of Kennedy money has made them disappear.

Not even possible to do that with biographers.

Maybe you did not read

Fraid so. Thats what I read, biographys.

or failed to comprehend, my father worked for navy intelligence
in the 50s and he knew what was in the navy reports,

So do the best of the biographers.

not what was planted in the New York Times.

That doesnt come from the NYT.

The PT109 story was written by Ted Sorenson and planted in the New
York times long before the navy had ever issued an official report.
That is a fact and I don't need someone from 12000 miles away telling
me what I know.
You probably also think JFK was one of our greatest presidents but you
will have to google it to find anything he ever did. LBJ did most of
the things JFK got credit for, after he died. JFK is the one who
almost ended the world over missiles in Cuba and in the end, he did
exactly what the Soviets wanted so they would pull them out.

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"devnull" wrote in message
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On 12/5/18 5:47 AM, micky wrote:
All federal offices are closed todayin the US.

Is that normal for the day of a president's funeral? Or is it a
stunt
by Stumpie to a) to make it look like he respected Bush,


President Bush is a true war hero.

So was Ike but that didnt happen with his.

Not true again.

Easy to claim.

Easier to remember. I was in DC in 1969.

So have no idea what happened in the rest of the USA.

They had more of a show for Eisenhower than we saw this week.

Irrelevant to whether they closed all the federal
offices in the entire USA that day. Didnt happen.


Yes it did. I was there, where were you

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"devnull" wrote in message
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On 12/5/18 5:47 AM, micky wrote:
All federal offices are closed todayin the US.

Is that normal for the day of a president's funeral? Or is it a
stunt
by Stumpie to a) to make it look like he respected Bush,


President Bush is a true war hero.

So was JFK, but I dont recall that happened when he as buried.
I do recall his little kid being told to salute as the corpse went by
tho.

Jesus, JFK's funeral lasted a week and
the whole damned city was shut down.

Like hell it was in the sense of all shops closed for a week.

(I lived there and went to school a
block from the White Housein 1963)

Which is why that school may have closed,
but all schools there didnt close for that week.


Yes they did along with all government offices.

But all shops werent for that week.

I was there, you were half way around
the world, probably still not conceived.

You're wrong about that last too. I had
in fact long since left school by then.

And completed high school too.

I am also not quite sure how he was a war hero.

Pretty basic really
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_F...E2%80%9319 45)

That is certainly the legend that Joe
Kennedy sold to the American public

It isnt a legend, its a fact.

and since his older son was just blown up ,
most likely screwing up too, they let it slide.

His biographers certainly didnt.

There are original reports that the engines were off and they
were dead in the water when they saw the destroyer but time
and a lot of Kennedy money has made them disappear.

Not even possible to do that with biographers.

Maybe you did not read

Fraid so. Thats what I read, biographys.

or failed to comprehend, my father worked for navy intelligence
in the 50s and he knew what was in the navy reports,

So do the best of the biographers.

not what was planted in the New York Times.

That doesnt come from the NYT.

The PT109 story was written by Ted Sorenson and planted in the New
York times long before the navy had ever issued an official report.

Irrelevant to what the biographers say about what happened then, now.

That is a fact and I don't need someone from
12000 miles away telling me what I know.

That remains to be seen given how comprehensively
you ****ed up what actually happened with JFK's funeral.

You probably also think JFK was one of our greatest presidents

No I dont. He was in fact a fool who got the US involved in Vietnam
when it made no sense to do that and the only thing he did that might
arguably have made any sense was the man on the moon stunt.

He ****ed up the Cuba missile fiasco completely.

Nope, I knew about that while you were still in school thanks.

LBJ did most of the things JFK got credit for, after he died.

Thats bull**** too with the man on the moon stuff.
And what happened in Berlin etc. And with the Cuba
missile fiasco in spades.

JFK is the one who almost ended the world over missiles in Cuba

Thats bull****. There was never going to
be full nuclear armageddon over that.

and in the end, he did exactly what the Soviets
wanted so they would pull them out.

Yes.

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"devnull" wrote in message
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On 12/5/18 5:47 AM, micky wrote:
All federal offices are closed todayin the US.

Is that normal for the day of a president's funeral? Or is it a
stunt
by Stumpie to a) to make it look like he respected Bush,


President Bush is a true war hero.

So was Ike but that didnt happen with his.

Not true again.

Easy to claim.

Easier to remember. I was in DC in 1969.

So have no idea what happened in the rest of the USA.

They had more of a show for Eisenhower than we saw this week.

Irrelevant to whether they closed all the federal
offices in the entire USA that day. Didnt happen.


Yes it did.

No it didnt. And they werent closed for a week with JFK either.

I was there

But was just a no nothing kid in school.

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"devnull" wrote in message
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On 12/5/18 5:47 AM, micky wrote:
All federal offices are closed todayin the US.

Is that normal for the day of a president's funeral?Â* Or is it a
stunt
by Stumpie to a) to make it look like he respected Bush,


President Bush is a true war hero.

So was Ike but that didnt happen with his.

Not true again.

Easy to claim.

Easier to remember. I was in DC in 1969.

So have no idea what happened in the rest of the USA.

They had more of a show for Eisenhower than we saw this week.

Irrelevant to whether they closed all the federal
offices in the entire USA that day. Didnt happen.

"Administration officials yesterday said the government was shut
down for the funerals of John F. Kennedy, Dwight D. Eisenhower, Harry S.
Truman and Lyndon B. Johnson, citing those closings as the basis for
President Clinton's decision to do the same for the Nixon funeral."
From:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1994/04/26/closing-government-for-funeral-is-us-tradition/45935dce-4fe2-4876-953c-d68c02c46802/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.829b12cec623

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On 12/5/18 5:47 AM, micky wrote:
All federal offices are closed todayin the US.

Is that normal for the day of a president's funeral? Or is it a
stunt
by Stumpie to a) to make it look like he respected Bush,


President Bush is a true war hero.

So was Ike but that didnt happen with his.

Not true again.

Easy to claim.

Easier to remember. I was in DC in 1969.

So have no idea what happened in the rest of the USA.

They had more of a show for Eisenhower than we saw this week.

Irrelevant to whether they closed all the federal
offices in the entire USA that day. Didnt happen.


Yes it did.

No it didnt. And they werent closed for a week with JFK either.

I was there

But was just a no nothing kid in school.

I knew when people got a day off.

On Wed, 5 Dec 2018 21:20:38 -0600, Dean Hoffman
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On 12/5/18 7:32 PM, Rod Speed wrote:


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"devnull" wrote in message
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On 12/5/18 5:47 AM, micky wrote:
All federal offices are closed todayin the US.

Is that normal for the day of a president's funeral?Â* Or is it a
stunt
by Stumpie to a) to make it look like he respected Bush,


President Bush is a true war hero.

So was Ike but that didnt happen with his.

Not true again.

Easy to claim.

Easier to remember. I was in DC in 1969.

So have no idea what happened in the rest of the USA.

They had more of a show for Eisenhower than we saw this week.

Irrelevant to whether they closed all the federal
offices in the entire USA that day. Didnt happen.

"Administration officials yesterday said the government was shut
down for the funerals of John F. Kennedy, Dwight D. Eisenhower, Harry S.
Truman and Lyndon B. Johnson, citing those closings as the basis for
President Clinton's decision to do the same for the Nixon funeral."
From:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1994/04/26/closing-government-for-funeral-is-us-tradition/45935dce-4fe2-4876-953c-d68c02c46802/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.829b12cec623


Don't try to confuse Rod with facts,. It overloads his feeble age
addled brain.

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"devnull" wrote in message
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On 12/5/18 5:47 AM, micky wrote:
All federal offices are closed todayin the US.

Is that normal for the day of a president's funeral? Or is it a
stunt
by Stumpie to a) to make it look like he respected Bush,


President Bush is a true war hero.

So was Ike but that didnt happen with his.

Not true again.

Easy to claim.

Easier to remember. I was in DC in 1969.

So have no idea what happened in the rest of the USA.

They had more of a show for Eisenhower than we saw this week.

Irrelevant to whether they closed all the federal
offices in the entire USA that day. Didnt happen.

"Administration officials yesterday said the government was shut down
for the funerals of John F. Kennedy, Dwight D. Eisenhower, Harry S. Truman
and Lyndon B. Johnson, citing those closings as the basis for President
Clinton's decision to do the same for the Nixon funeral."
From:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1994/04/26/closing-government-for-funeral-is-us-tradition/45935dce-4fe2-4876-953c-d68c02c46802/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.829b12cec623

Government wasnt in fact shut down for those, whatever that stupid journo
claimed.

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"devnull" wrote in message
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On 12/5/18 5:47 AM, micky wrote:
All federal offices are closed todayin the US.

Is that normal for the day of a president's funeral? Or is it a
stunt
by Stumpie to a) to make it look like he respected Bush,


President Bush is a true war hero.

So was Ike but that didnt happen with his.

Not true again.

Easy to claim.

Easier to remember. I was in DC in 1969.

So have no idea what happened in the rest of the USA.

They had more of a show for Eisenhower than we saw this week.

Because his corpse ended up in Abilene and was carted
around quite a bit in the process of ending up there.

Irrelevant to whether they closed all the federal
offices in the entire USA that day. Didnt happen.


Yes it did.

No it didnt. And they werent closed for a week with JFK either.

I was there

But was just a no nothing kid in school.

I knew when people got a day off.

You previously pig ignorantly claimed that they got the WEEK off for JFK.
Didnt happen.

On Wed, 5 Dec 2018 17:43:34 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:

On Wednesday, December 5, 2018 at 4:47:46 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 07:35:22 +1100, "Rod Speed"
wrote:



"devnull" wrote in message
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On 12/5/18 5:47 AM, micky wrote:
All federal offices are closed todayin the US.

Is that normal for the day of a president's funeral? Or is it a stunt
by Stumpie to a) to make it look like he respected Bush,


President Bush is a true war hero.

So was JFK, but I dont recall that happened when he as buried.
I do recall his little kid being told to salute as the corpse went by tho.

Jesus, JFK's funeral lasted a week and the whole damned city was shut
down. (I lived there and went to school a block from the White House
in 1963)


Idk what the schools did, but JFK was assassinated on a Friday and buried at Arlington 3 days later, on Monday. That's 3 days, mostly a weekend, not a week. Thursday was Thanksgiving, so the schools would have been closed thur and fri for that.


They had Pennsylvania avenue torn up on sunday for the procession and
they did not get started putting it back together until tuesday,
since, as you say thursday and friday were holidays the whole week was
shot.

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On Wed, 5 Dec 2018 17:43:34 -0800 (PST), trader_4
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On Wednesday, December 5, 2018 at 4:47:46 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 07:35:22 +1100, "Rod Speed"
wrote:



"devnull" wrote in message
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On 12/5/18 5:47 AM, micky wrote:
All federal offices are closed todayin the US.

Is that normal for the day of a president's funeral? Or is it a
stunt
by Stumpie to a) to make it look like he respected Bush,


President Bush is a true war hero.

So was JFK, but I dont recall that happened when he as buried.
I do recall his little kid being told to salute as the corpse went by
tho.

Jesus, JFK's funeral lasted a week and the whole damned city was shut
down. (I lived there and went to school a block from the White House
in 1963)


Idk what the schools did, but JFK was assassinated on a Friday and buried
at Arlington 3 days later, on Monday. That's 3 days, mostly a weekend, not
a week. Thursday was Thanksgiving, so the schools would have been closed
thur and fri for that.


They had Pennsylvania avenue torn up on sunday for the procession and
they did not get started putting it back together until tuesday, since, as
you say thursday and friday were holidays the whole week was shot.

But they didnt shut everything down for a whole week for his funeral, the
public holidays were the reason it was shut down on the thursday and friday.

Typical error a kid would make.

On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 12:30:08 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rot Speed,
the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

FLUSH troll****

Let me guess: you know it ALL better, AGAIN! Right, senile Rot?

LMAO!

--
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"You really should stop commenting on things you know nothing about."
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On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 17:47:50 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rot Speed,
the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


They had Pennsylvania avenue torn up on sunday for the procession and
they did not get started putting it back together until tuesday, since, as
you say thursday and friday were holidays the whole week was shot.

But they didn¢t shut everything down for a whole week for his funeral, the
public holidays were the reason it was shut down on the thursday and friday.

Typical error a kid would make.

I just don't understand why those senile Yanks on ahr haven't sent you
packing yet, you abnormal Ozzie wiseacre! ...like the Aussies in the Aussie
ngs obviously did already long ago!

--
FredXX to Rot Speed:
"You are still an idiot and an embarrassment to your country. No wonder
we shippe the likes of you out of the British Isles. Perhaps stupidity
and criminality is inherited after all?"
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On 12/5/2018 4:47 AM, micky wrote:
All federal offices are closed todayin the US.

Is that normal for the day of a president's funeral? Or is it a stunt
by Stumpie to a) to make it look like he respected Bush, b) to make it
look like he respects anyone, c) to try to set a precedent for when he
dies, may the day come soon?

I don't remember this being done for any of the other presidents who
have died, and there have been quite a few in the last 35 years, for
example.


So that Micky can take the time to learn how to spell government?

In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 5 Dec 2018 17:43:34 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:

On Wednesday, December 5, 2018 at 4:47:46 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 07:35:22 +1100, "Rod Speed"
wrote:



"devnull" wrote in message
...
On 12/5/18 5:47 AM, micky wrote:
All federal offices are closed todayin the US.

Is that normal for the day of a president's funeral? Or is it a stunt
by Stumpie to a) to make it look like he respected Bush,


President Bush is a true war hero.

So was JFK, but I don’t recall that happened when he as buried.
I do recall his little kid being told to salute as the corpse went by tho.

Jesus, JFK's funeral lasted a week and the whole damned city was shut
down. (I lived there and went to school a block from the White House
in 1963)


Idk what the schools did, but JFK was assassinated on a Friday and buried at Arlington 3 days later, on Monday. That's 3 days, mostly a weekend, not a week. Thursday was Thanksgiving, so the schools would have been closed thur and fri for that.

Without checking, part of this is not true or at least unclear. JFK was
assasinated on a school day, some time before 2:30 central time, Dallas
time. So it was not the Friday after Thanksgiving. I know because I
was in class and that was when another teacher, not ours, came in to
tell everyone about it. Yes, Thanksgiving Day was a week later,
November 28, so the 21st was also a Thrusday and the 22nd a Friday.

So we had a full day of class on Friday (maybe they didn't on the west
coast or in the mountain zone), and yes, the funeral was on Monday.



I am also not quite sure how he was a war hero. If he was John
McGillicutty he would have been court marshaled for insubordination,
hazarding his vessel and conduct unbecoming. When he was sitting there
in the dark with his engines off he was disobeying a direct order and
2 of his crew members paid the ultimate price for it.
My father was in Naval intelligence after the war and he used to spit
at the TV whenever he heard that PT109 bull****.

In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 06 Dec 2018 00:11:54 -0500,
wrote:

On Wed, 5 Dec 2018 17:43:34 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:

On Wednesday, December 5, 2018 at 4:47:46 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 07:35:22 +1100, "Rod Speed"
wrote:



"devnull" wrote in message
...
On 12/5/18 5:47 AM, micky wrote:
All federal offices are closed todayin the US.

Is that normal for the day of a president's funeral? Or is it a stunt
by Stumpie to a) to make it look like he respected Bush,


President Bush is a true war hero.

So was JFK, but I don’t recall that happened when he as buried.
I do recall his little kid being told to salute as the corpse went by tho.

Jesus, JFK's funeral lasted a week and the whole damned city was shut
down. (I lived there and went to school a block from the White House
in 1963)


Idk what the schools did, but JFK was assassinated on a Friday and buried at Arlington 3 days later, on Monday. That's 3 days, mostly a weekend, not a week. Thursday was Thanksgiving, so the schools would have been closed thur and fri for that.


They had Pennsylvania avenue torn up on sunday for the procession and
they did not get started putting it back together until tuesday,
since, as you say thursday and friday were holidays the whole week was
shot.

What do you mean "torn up" and how many federal workers or school
students in the US need to use Pennsyvlania Avenue to get to work or
school anyhow?

For me in Indiana, it was 1000 miles out of the way. We had class on
Tuesday.

On Thursday, December 6, 2018 at 11:36:29 AM UTC-5, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 5 Dec 2018 17:43:34 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:

On Wednesday, December 5, 2018 at 4:47:46 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 07:35:22 +1100, "Rod Speed"
wrote:



"devnull" wrote in message
...
On 12/5/18 5:47 AM, micky wrote:
All federal offices are closed todayin the US.

Is that normal for the day of a president's funeral? Or is it a stunt
by Stumpie to a) to make it look like he respected Bush,


President Bush is a true war hero.

So was JFK, but I dont recall that happened when he as buried.
I do recall his little kid being told to salute as the corpse went by tho.

Jesus, JFK's funeral lasted a week and the whole damned city was shut
down. (I lived there and went to school a block from the White House
in 1963)


Idk what the schools did, but JFK was assassinated on a Friday and buried at Arlington 3 days later, on Monday. That's 3 days, mostly a weekend, not a week. Thursday was Thanksgiving, so the schools would have been closed thur and fri for that.

Without checking, part of this is not true or at least unclear. JFK was
assasinated on a school day, some time before 2:30 central time, Dallas
time. So it was not the Friday after Thanksgiving.

I didn't say it was the Fri after Thanksgiving. What I said very clearly
was he was shot on the Friday BEFORE Thanksgiving and he was buried on Monday, three days later.

On Thu, 06 Dec 2018 11:36:22 -0500, micky
wrote:

In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 5 Dec 2018 17:43:34 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:

On Wednesday, December 5, 2018 at 4:47:46 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 07:35:22 +1100, "Rod Speed"
wrote:



"devnull" wrote in message
...
On 12/5/18 5:47 AM, micky wrote:
All federal offices are closed todayin the US.

Is that normal for the day of a president's funeral? Or is it a stunt
by Stumpie to a) to make it look like he respected Bush,


President Bush is a true war hero.

So was JFK, but I dont recall that happened when he as buried.
I do recall his little kid being told to salute as the corpse went by tho.

Jesus, JFK's funeral lasted a week and the whole damned city was shut
down. (I lived there and went to school a block from the White House
in 1963)


Idk what the schools did, but JFK was assassinated on a Friday and buried at Arlington 3 days later, on Monday. That's 3 days, mostly a weekend, not a week. Thursday was Thanksgiving, so the schools would have been closed thur and fri for that.

Without checking, part of this is not true or at least unclear. JFK was
assasinated on a school day, some time before 2:30 central time, Dallas
time. So it was not the Friday after Thanksgiving. I know because I
was in class and that was when another teacher, not ours, came in to
tell everyone about it. Yes, Thanksgiving Day was a week later,
November 28, so the 21st was also a Thrusday and the 22nd a Friday.

So we had a full day of class on Friday (maybe they didn't on the west
coast or in the mountain zone), and yes, the funeral was on Monday.

I was at 1736 G st NW DC at 1:30 when Kennedy was shot and it took me
almost 5 hours to get home. I am very familiar with that day. We knew
about it by 1:35. They told us to get out of there before Kennedy was
even pronounced and the city was already in gridlock. (phones didn't
work, streets were jammed, buses were not running on schedule etc).
My father was at the Navy Yard, not in the Ma Bell midtown office so
he was able to get my mom on the phone and I just guessed I would have
a better chance of getting a ride with her than on the bus so I walked
there. It took him almost an hour to get fro 8th and I to Capitol hill
where she worked, I was there by then and it was another 3 to get back
across the Anacostia River. Most of that time was wasted just trying
to get off capitol hill.
The whole weekend you had to be nuts to even try to get downtown and
by Sunday they had Pennsylvania Avenue torn up for that parade.
They take down the traffic light poles and anything else in the center
median, (that used to be street car tracks) weld the man hole covers
shut and all sorts of stuff. Monday they had another show up the road
from the White House and then took him to Arlington. That blocked
traffic all day again. It wasn't until Tuesday evening that they had
things almost back to normal. Like you say Wednesday was supposed to
be a work day but they were off again on Thursday so nobody showed up
and by then, why show up on Friday?

On Thu, 06 Dec 2018 11:43:53 -0500, micky
wrote:

In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 06 Dec 2018 00:11:54 -0500,
wrote:

On Wed, 5 Dec 2018 17:43:34 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:

On Wednesday, December 5, 2018 at 4:47:46 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 07:35:22 +1100, "Rod Speed"
wrote:



"devnull" wrote in message
...
On 12/5/18 5:47 AM, micky wrote:
All federal offices are closed todayin the US.

Is that normal for the day of a president's funeral? Or is it a stunt
by Stumpie to a) to make it look like he respected Bush,


President Bush is a true war hero.

So was JFK, but I dont recall that happened when he as buried.
I do recall his little kid being told to salute as the corpse went by tho.

Jesus, JFK's funeral lasted a week and the whole damned city was shut
down. (I lived there and went to school a block from the White House
in 1963)


Idk what the schools did, but JFK was assassinated on a Friday and buried at Arlington 3 days later, on Monday. That's 3 days, mostly a weekend, not a week. Thursday was Thanksgiving, so the schools would have been closed thur and fri for that.


They had Pennsylvania avenue torn up on sunday for the procession and
they did not get started putting it back together until tuesday,
since, as you say thursday and friday were holidays the whole week was
shot.

What do you mean "torn up" and how many federal workers or school
students in the US need to use Pennsyvlania Avenue to get to work or
school anyhow?

For me in Indiana, it was 1000 miles out of the way. We had class on
Tuesday.

It is a main road through the federal triangle where most government
offices were in 63. It was LBJ that started moving them out to the
suburbs. Like I said before, it doesn't take much to shut down the
government and you also have the unofficial shutdown where people just
do not show up. That was one of those weeks.
Indiana is far more than just 1000 miles from DC. In culture it is a
whole other planet. (my wife and her whole family are hoosiers) I have
been to Indiana ;-)
She lost her mind riding around with me in DC. What you people call
"aggressive driving" is just "driving" in DC (among other things). DC
people are far more political too and things you might not notice in
Kokomo will be the only things people care about in DC.

In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 6 Dec 2018 10:29:59 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:

On Thursday, December 6, 2018 at 11:36:29 AM UTC-5, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 5 Dec 2018 17:43:34 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:

On Wednesday, December 5, 2018 at 4:47:46 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 07:35:22 +1100, "Rod Speed"
wrote:



"devnull" wrote in message
...
On 12/5/18 5:47 AM, micky wrote:
All federal offices are closed todayin the US.

Is that normal for the day of a president's funeral? Or is it a stunt
by Stumpie to a) to make it look like he respected Bush,


President Bush is a true war hero.

So was JFK, but I don’t recall that happened when he as buried.
I do recall his little kid being told to salute as the corpse went by tho.

Jesus, JFK's funeral lasted a week and the whole damned city was shut
down. (I lived there and went to school a block from the White House
in 1963)


Idk what the schools did, but JFK was assassinated on a Friday and buried at Arlington 3 days later, on Monday. That's 3 days, mostly a weekend, not a week. Thursday was Thanksgiving, so the schools would have been closed thur and fri for that.

Without checking, part of this is not true or at least unclear. JFK was
assasinated on a school day, some time before 2:30 central time, Dallas
time. So it was not the Friday after Thanksgiving.

I didn't say it was the Fri after Thanksgiving. What I said very clearly
was he was shot on the Friday BEFORE Thanksgiving and he was buried on Monday, three days later.

Eventually I figured out that's what you meant, but don't kid yourself,
none of what you have in the line above was clear.

"Idk what the schools did, but JFK was assassinated on a Friday and
buried at Arlington 3 days later, on Monday. That's 3 days, mostly a
weekend, not a week. Thursday was Thanksgiving, so the schools would
have been closed thur and fri for that."