Car is just bought by a kid just learning to drive (he's 16).
2004 Mitsubishi Lancer ES

Neighbors asked me what their options are for getting duplicate fobs.
http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=7287633keyfob.jpg

It came with only one key and one "remote" (see photo above).
(I made a half-dozen keys for the kid so the question is about the remote.)

Anyone know what options there are for getting duplicate remotes?

On 8/1/2018 11:41 PM, Arlen Holder wrote:
Car is just bought by a kid just learning to drive (he's 16).
2004 Mitsubishi Lancer ES

Neighbors asked me what their options are for getting duplicate fobs.
http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=7287633keyfob.jpg

It came with only one key and one "remote" (see photo above).
(I made a half-dozen keys for the kid so the question is about the remote.)

Anyone know what options there are for getting duplicate remotes?


You can buy fobs off eBay but you usually have to have it programmed by
a dealer.

On 1 Aug 2018 20:52:48 GMT, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

You can buy fobs off eBay but you usually have to have it programmed by
a dealer.

Do you know which number on the back is the "definitive" number for the
correct fob? http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=7287633keyfob.jpg
- FCC?
- Canada?
- Japanese?
- Omron?

On 8/1/18 11:41 PM, Arlen Holder wrote:
Car is just bought by a kid just learning to drive (he's 16).
2004 Mitsubishi Lancer ES

Neighbors asked me what their options are for getting duplicate fobs.
http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=7287633keyfob.jpg

It came with only one key and one "remote" (see photo above).
(I made a half-dozen keys for the kid so the question is about the remote.)

Anyone know what options there are for getting duplicate remotes?


Here is one: http://www.keylessride.com/

On 1 Aug 2018 20:57:28 GMT, "Retired wrote:

Car is just bought by a kid just learning to drive (he's 16).
2004 Mitsubishi Lancer ES

Neighbors asked me what their options are for getting duplicate fobs.
http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=7287633keyfob.jpg

It came with only one key and one "remote" (see photo above).
(I made a half-dozen keys for the kid so the question is about the remote.)

Anyone know what options there are for getting duplicate remotes?


Here is one: http://www.keylessride.com/

That's VERY NICE and useful!
Do we have TWO choices as shown here?
http://www.keylessride.com/order/chooseremote.asp?make=Mitsubishi&remoteyear=2004&m odel=Lancer

Certainly the original http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=7287633keyfob.jpg
Looks like the second one here...
http://www.keylessride.com/order/quo...&frid=47286EA4

$105 remote plus programming
PROGRAMMING
Price INCLUDES programming instructions and all required programming tools
for training the vehicle to recognize the remote.

On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 05:36:27 -0000 (UTC), Arlen Holder
wrote:

On 1 Aug 2018 20:57:28 GMT, "Retired wrote:

Car is just bought by a kid just learning to drive (he's 16).
2004 Mitsubishi Lancer ES

Neighbors asked me what their options are for getting duplicate fobs.
http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=7287633keyfob.jpg

It came with only one key and one "remote" (see photo above).
(I made a half-dozen keys for the kid so the question is about the remote.)

Anyone know what options there are for getting duplicate remotes?


Here is one: http://www.keylessride.com/

That's VERY NICE and useful!
Do we have TWO choices as shown here?
http://www.keylessride.com/order/chooseremote.asp?make=Mitsubishi&remoteyear=2004&m odel=Lancer

Certainly the original http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=7287633keyfob.jpg
Looks like the second one here...
http://www.keylessride.com/order/quo...&frid=47286EA4

$105 remote plus programming
PROGRAMMING
Price INCLUDES programming instructions and all required programming tools
for training the vehicle to recognize the remote.
IOf you have 2, you can add 3rd and 4th etc very easily. With only
one I THINK it is a bit more difficult.

Try this:::

https://northcoastkeyless.com/2004-m...-instructions/

When you are done your neighbor will think you are a genius!!!!

On 2 Aug 2018 14:23:21 GMT, Clare Snyder wrote:

IOf you have 2, you can add 3rd and 4th etc very easily. With only
one I THINK it is a bit more difficult.

Try this:::

https://northcoastkeyless.com/2004-m...-instructions/

When you are done your neighbor will think you are a genius!!!!

Wow Clare ... you are the genius!

If those instructions are legit, it sure seems that we can buy a handful of
remotes and just program them all together at the same time.

Here's my summary of that document:
2004 Mitsubishi Lancer Keyless Entry Remote Fob Programming Instructions
https://northcoastkeyless.com/2004-mitsubishi-lancer-keyless-entry-remote-fob-programming-instructions/
"Many people don¢t know that they can purchase their own replacement
vehicle entry remote, save up to 70% off of marked up Dealership prices,
and program the replacement remote to their vehicle themselves."

First, verify this is on the back of the remote:
* FCC ID: OUCG8D-525M-A
* Factory Part No.: MR587983

I just looked at the original pictures where the FCC ID matches perfectly,
but that "Factory Part Number" doesn't exist on the current fob (maybe it's
already an aftermarket fob?).

1. Insert key into the Ignition and leave it in the OFF position.
2. JUMP OBDII Ports 1 and 4 with a suitable jumper wire.
3. Within ten (10) seconds, PRESS the Hazard Light Switch six (6) times.
4. The door locks will cycle once indicating entry to Programming Mode.

On the first remote to be programmed...
5. PRESS the LOCK Button three (3) times within ten (10) seconds.
6. Door locks will cycle once indicating successful programming

7. For all other remotes, individually repeat step 5 within one (1) minute.

8. REMOVE the jumper wire connected to the Data Link Port.
9. Programming is now complete.
10. Test all remotes.

Sometimes such things are like an "rm -r *" command, so I hope it's legit,
but if it is, it seems all I have to do for them is figure out if the
missing "Factory Part Number" is critical and where best to buy a handful
of these remotes!

In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 3 Aug 2018 08:56:02 -0000 (UTC), Arlen
Holder wrote:

On 2 Aug 2018 14:23:21 GMT, Clare Snyder wrote:

IOf you have 2, you can add 3rd and 4th etc very easily. With only
one I THINK it is a bit more difficult.

Try this:::

https://northcoastkeyless.com/2004-m...-instructions/

When you are done your neighbor will think you are a genius!!!!

Wow Clare ... you are the genius!

If those instructions are legit, it sure seems that we can buy a handful of
remotes and just program them all together at the same time.

It used to be that when you did this, you had to reprogram the keys or
fobs (I forget which) that you already had, which were working, at the
same time you did a new one. (and I was afraid I'd mess them all up.)

but with my 2004 Chrysler and 2005 Toyota, I dont' think that was true.

Just follow the directions to the letter.

It might help to have someone read you the instructions while you do it.
At least for me, on the first couple tries, I can't remember more than
one step at a time, and the time it took for reading even though I
thought I turned the key on and off, or the lock button up and down, the
right number fo times, it took 4 or 5 tries to get it right. but that
was the first one. After that I got much better.



Here's my summary of that document:
2004 Mitsubishi Lancer Keyless Entry Remote Fob Programming Instructions
https://northcoastkeyless.com/2004-mitsubishi-lancer-keyless-entry-remote-fob-programming-instructions/
"Many people don¢t know that they can purchase their own replacement
vehicle entry remote, save up to 70% off of marked up Dealership prices,
and program the replacement remote to their vehicle themselves."

First, verify this is on the back of the remote:
* FCC ID: OUCG8D-525M-A
* Factory Part No.: MR587983

I just looked at the original pictures where the FCC ID matches perfectly,
but that "Factory Part Number" doesn't exist on the current fob (maybe it's
already an aftermarket fob?).

1. Insert key into the Ignition and leave it in the OFF position.
2. JUMP OBDII Ports 1 and 4 with a suitable jumper wire.
3. Within ten (10) seconds, PRESS the Hazard Light Switch six (6) times.
4. The door locks will cycle once indicating entry to Programming Mode.

On the first remote to be programmed...
5. PRESS the LOCK Button three (3) times within ten (10) seconds.
6. Door locks will cycle once indicating successful programming

7. For all other remotes, individually repeat step 5 within one (1) minute.

8. REMOVE the jumper wire connected to the Data Link Port.
9. Programming is now complete.
10. Test all remotes.

Sometimes such things are like an "rm -r *" command, so I hope it's legit,
but if it is, it seems all I have to do for them is figure out if the
missing "Factory Part Number" is critical and where best to buy a handful
of these remotes!

In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 2 Aug 2018 05:36:27 -0000 (UTC), Arlen
Holder wrote:

On 1 Aug 2018 20:57:28 GMT, "Retired wrote:

Car is just bought by a kid just learning to drive (he's 16).
2004 Mitsubishi Lancer ES

Neighbors asked me what their options are for getting duplicate fobs.
http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=7287633keyfob.jpg

It came with only one key and one "remote" (see photo above).
(I made a half-dozen keys for the kid so the question is about the remote.)

Anyone know what options there are for getting duplicate remotes?


Here is one: http://www.keylessride.com/

That's VERY NICE and useful!
Do we have TWO choices as shown here?
http://www.keylessride.com/order/chooseremote.asp?make=Mitsubishi&remoteyear=2004&m odel=Lancer

Certainly the original http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=7287633keyfob.jpg
Looks like the second one here...
http://www.keylessride.com/order/quo...&frid=47286EA4

$105 remote plus programming
PROGRAMMING
Price INCLUDES programming instructions and all required programming tools
for training the vehicle to recognize the remote.

You don't have to spend anywhere near this for most cars. I
programmed fobs for Chrysler and Toyota last summer, and each fob was
about $10. Insturctions are online for free.

You don't need a number off the back. Go to an ebay page (or maybe it
was Amazon) and find someone who sells fobs and put in the year, make,
adn model of the car and it will tell you if he has the fob to fit it.


I got keys the same way, for even less money.

And it's not just those two makes. Just about all of them

On 3 Aug 2018 00:57:29 GMT, micky wrote:

You don't have to spend anywhere near this for most cars. I
programmed fobs for Chrysler and Toyota last summer, and each fob was
about $10. Insturctions are online for free.

You don't need a number off the back. Go to an ebay page (or maybe it
was Amazon) and find someone who sells fobs and put in the year, make,
adn model of the car and it will tell you if he has the fob to fit it.


I got keys the same way, for even less money.

And it's not just those two makes. Just about all of them

Thanks for this input, where I've been concentrating on the oxygen sensor
thread (for obvious reasons of triage) but where this information is
useful.

One question.

How do they prevent theft?

That is, what proof do you normally give them that it's YOUR car?

NOTE: I'm not trying to steal a car ... I'm just trying to understand the
process.

On 8/3/2018 4:42 AM, Arlen Holder wrote:


How do they prevent theft?

That is, what proof do you normally give them that it's YOUR car?

NOTE: I'm not trying to steal a car ... I'm just trying to understand the
process.


Most cases require you to bring one of the original fobs to get the new
one programmed.
Dealer may have you listed as the owner and that would suffice.

My boss went to Europe. His wife took his car and locked the keys
inside and the dealer was 50 miles away. I had to give the dealer the
VIN and have a local locksmith vouch for me since he knew the both of us
and did work for the company.

In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 3 Aug 2018 08:42:12 -0000 (UTC), Arlen
Holder wrote:

On 3 Aug 2018 00:57:29 GMT, micky wrote:

You don't have to spend anywhere near this for most cars. I
programmed fobs for Chrysler and Toyota last summer, and each fob was
about $10. Insturctions are online for free.

You don't need a number off the back. Go to an ebay page (or maybe it
was Amazon) and find someone who sells fobs and put in the year, make,
adn model of the car and it will tell you if he has the fob to fit it.


I got keys the same way, for even less money.

And it's not just those two makes. Just about all of them

Thanks for this input, where I've been concentrating on the oxygen sensor

I havent' seen that thread, but I may have problems with my o2 sensor
also. I forget the codes I have but they both point to the o2 sensor.

Yet I get 30MPH on he highway and 26 in town, and it doesnt' overheat,
so I'm thinking there is no big rush to fix it. It does stumble a bit
when I'm stopped and start up again, unless I"m perfect with the gas
pedal.

thread (for obvious reasons of triage) but where this information is
useful.

One question.

How do they prevent theft?

The 02 sensor won't admit oxygen unless you have proof you own the car.

That is, what proof do you normally give them that it's YOUR car?

NOTE: I'm not trying to steal a car ... I'm just trying to understand the
process.

For the key and the fob, online they will sell to anyone. It's sort of
like guns. But you need to have one or 2 fobs to make anotehr and 1 or
2 keys to make another key. I forget which it is but it's 1 for one and
2 for the other. Whatever Clare said.

So if you don't have that, I think you have to go to a locksmith (who is
still probalby cheaper than the dealer, though iirc not every locksmith
can do this.)

My used cars both came with 2 keys and 2 fobs, or more, and because I
knew I'd have trouble making more if I got down to one fob (or key, I
forget) I made a bunch more. I have 4 of each now, I think. Even
though I've only lost one key in 50+ years and that was a house key I
dropped into my car's trunk. I was out of town, getting home late, had
to call a friend and have him leave my house key outside my house.

And another time was tubing and changed clothes and had left the key in
the trunk. Had to ask some poor girl who probalby thought I really
liked her to take me home 10 miles and back to the car. That will
teach her to be talking to me when I see that the key is locked in.

On Fri, 3 Aug 2018 08:42:12 -0000 (UTC), Arlen Holder
wrote:

On 3 Aug 2018 00:57:29 GMT, micky wrote:

You don't have to spend anywhere near this for most cars. I
programmed fobs for Chrysler and Toyota last summer, and each fob was
about $10. Insturctions are online for free.

You don't need a number off the back. Go to an ebay page (or maybe it
was Amazon) and find someone who sells fobs and put in the year, make,
adn model of the car and it will tell you if he has the fob to fit it.


I got keys the same way, for even less money.

And it's not just those two makes. Just about all of them

Thanks for this input, where I've been concentrating on the oxygen sensor
thread (for obvious reasons of triage) but where this information is
useful.

One question.

How do they prevent theft?

That is, what proof do you normally give them that it's YOUR car?

NOTE: I'm not trying to steal a car ... I'm just trying to understand the
process.
You need the car unlocked and the key in the ignition to program the
remotes - which doNOT unlock the steering column or allow you to drive
the car without the (usually chipped) key. The remote doesn't care who
owns the car - or even who has the remote.

On 02/08/2018 04:57, wrote:
On 8/1/18 11:41 PM, Arlen Holder wrote:
Car is just bought by a kid just learning to drive (he's 16).
2004 Mitsubishi Lancer ES

Neighbors asked me what their options are for getting duplicate fobs.
http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=7287633keyfob.jpg

It came with only one key and one "remote" (see photo above).
(I made a half-dozen keys for the kid so the question is about the
remote.)

Anyone know what options there are for getting duplicate remotes?


Here is one: http://www.keylessride.com/

Hmm! interesting.

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