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water well tank waterlogged
Hi All,
Put in a new well but the tank is getting waterlogged once a month. A plumbing supple pro tells me that I need to drill a 3/16" hole in the drop pipe (below ground) so that a slug of air will be delivered to the tank every time the pump turns on. A check valve was installed directly above the submersible pump and a second check value was installed between the well cap and the tank. Does drilling a hole in the drop pipe make sense to you? |
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On Mon, 12 Jun 2017 17:09:34 +0000 (UTC), MarkK
wrote: Hi All, Put in a new well but the tank is getting waterlogged once a month. A plumbing supple pro tells me that I need to drill a 3/16" hole in the drop pipe (below ground) so that a slug of air will be delivered to the tank every time the pump turns on. A check valve was installed directly above the submersible pump and a second check value was installed between the well cap and the tank. Does drilling a hole in the drop pipe make sense to you? Is this a bladder tank |
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On Mon, 12 Jun 2017 13:16:33 -0400, gfretwell wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2017 17:09:34 +0000 (UTC), MarkK wrote: Hi All, Put in a new well but the tank is getting waterlogged once a month. A plumbing supple pro tells me that I need to drill a 3/16" hole in the drop pipe (below ground) so that a slug of air will be delivered to the tank every time the pump turns on. A check valve was installed directly above the submersible pump and a second check value was installed between the well cap and the tank. Does drilling a hole in the drop pipe make sense to you? Is this a bladder tank No, it's a galvanized tank. |
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On Monday, June 12, 2017 at 1:09:39 PM UTC-4, MarkK wrote:
Hi All, Put in a new well but the tank is getting waterlogged once a month. A plumbing supple pro tells me that I need to drill a 3/16" hole in the drop pipe (below ground) so that a slug of air will be delivered to the tank every time the pump turns on. A check valve was installed directly above the submersible pump and a second check value was installed between the well cap and the tank. Does drilling a hole in the drop pipe make sense to you? You don't tell us about the tank, is it new too? If so, that tank should have a bladder that holds a charge of air that is set based on the operating pressure range. Once the air is in, unless the air valve or bladder is leaking, the tank won't get water logged. The older style tanks from decades ago didn't have an air bladder. Instead they relied on keeping an appropriate volume of air in the tank by a valve gizmo that was installed in the tank near the middle and had a line running back to the suction side of the pump. If the air level got low, the mechanism would allow the pump to suck some ambient air, thereby replenishing the air in the tank. That was with a pump at the tank and the simpler system. In the case of submersibles with old tanks, they used a bleeder orifice located on the suction pipe inside the well, below grade. This was another check valve type device that let's water out, but not in. There was a check valve at the tank which also had a schrader air valve on the well side. When the pump shuts off, there is no pressure in the pipe, so the orifice opens and air enters via the schrader valve at the tank check valve. The section of pipe between tank and orifice winds up filled with air. Next time the pump starts, that air goes into the tank. Next problem is that it's always putting air in, which would lead to too much air. So there was some other contraption installed about half way up the tank that had a float and if there was too much air, it would allow it to escape. All that of course was replaced by the bladder type tank for obvious reasons. So, if you have the older no bladder type, you need to install one of those bleeder orifices in the line inside the well. And make sure you have the rest of the system. |
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On Mon, 12 Jun 2017 17:18:22 +0000 (UTC), MarkK
Is this a bladder tank No, it's a galvanized tank. But is the water contained within a bladder within the galvanized tank? Does the tank have a air valve on top of it? (looks like a valve on a tire or inner-tube) -- Web based forums are like subscribing to 10 different newspapers and having to visit 10 different news stands to pickup each one. Email list-server groups and USENET are like having all of those newspapers delivered to your door every morning. |
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On Mon, 12 Jun 2017 15:22:40 -0500, CRNG wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2017 17:18:22 +0000 (UTC), MarkK Is this a bladder tank No, it's a galvanized tank. But is the water contained within a bladder within the galvanized tank? Does the tank have a air valve on top of it? (looks like a valve on a tire or inner-tube) It's just a galvanized tank. It contains no bladder and it has no schraider valve on top. |
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On Mon, 12 Jun 2017 21:13:34 +0000 (UTC), MarkK
wrote in On Mon, 12 Jun 2017 15:22:40 -0500, CRNG wrote: On Mon, 12 Jun 2017 17:18:22 +0000 (UTC), MarkK Is this a bladder tank No, it's a galvanized tank. But is the water contained within a bladder within the galvanized tank? Does the tank have a air valve on top of it? (looks like a valve on a tire or inner-tube) It's just a galvanized tank. It contains no bladder and it has no schraider valve on top. Then the plumbing/well guy is probably correct about the tank water-logging. However I would be very nervous about his suggestion to drill a small hole in the pipe a few feet below the well head. I would first try to install a schrader valve at the top of the galvanized tank. Of course that would require you to periodically check and recharge the tank air. If that is required too often then you probably need a new tank. -- Web based forums are like subscribing to 10 different newspapers and having to visit 10 different news stands to pickup each one. Email list-server groups and USENET are like having all of those newspapers delivered to your door every morning. |
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water well tank waterlogged
It's just a galvanized tank. It contains no bladder and it has no schraider valve on top. Then the plumbing/well guy is probably correct about the tank water-logging. However I would be very nervous about his suggestion to drill a small hole in the pipe a few feet below the well head. I would first try to install a schrader valve at the top of the galvanized tank. Of course that would require you to periodically check and recharge the tank air. If that is required too often then you probably need a new tank. -- Web based forums are like subscribing to 10 different newspapers and having to visit 10 different news stands to pickup each one. Email list-server groups and USENET are like having all of those newspapers delivered to your door every morning. any tank with air and no bladder will eventually get "water logged" because the air will dissolve into the water over time. I don't know how long this normally takes but I thought those type of tanks do need to be refilled with air periodically and therefore should have a valve of some kind. If your tank water logs faster than normal, it may have a tiny leak that allows the air to escape but too small to let much water through. m |
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On Tuesday, June 13, 2017 at 9:12:50 AM UTC-4, wrote:
It's just a galvanized tank. It contains no bladder and it has no schraider valve on top. Then the plumbing/well guy is probably correct about the tank water-logging. However I would be very nervous about his suggestion to drill a small hole in the pipe a few feet below the well head. I would first try to install a schrader valve at the top of the galvanized tank. Of course that would require you to periodically check and recharge the tank air. If that is required too often then you probably need a new tank. -- Web based forums are like subscribing to 10 different newspapers and having to visit 10 different news stands to pickup each one. Email list-server groups and USENET are like having all of those newspapers delivered to your door every morning. any tank with air and no bladder will eventually get "water logged" because the air will dissolve into the water over time. I don't know how long this normally takes but I thought those type of tanks do need to be refilled with air periodically and therefore should have a valve of some kind. If your tank water logs faster than normal, it may have a tiny leak that allows the air to escape but too small to let much water through. m btw, how do you know that the tank has no bladder? m |
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HOW ABOUT THAT "water well tank waterlogged"?
On 6/13/2017 5:50 AM, CRNG wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2017 21:13:34 +0000 (UTC), MarkK wrote in On Mon, 12 Jun 2017 15:22:40 -0500, CRNG wrote: On Mon, 12 Jun 2017 17:18:22 +0000 (UTC), MarkK Is this a bladder tank No, it's a galvanized tank. But is the water contained within a bladder within the galvanized tank? Does the tank have a air valve on top of it? (looks like a valve on a tire or inner-tube) It's just a galvanized tank. It contains no bladder and it has no schraider valve on top. Then the plumbing/well guy is probably correct about the tank water-logging. However I would be very nervous about his suggestion to drill a small hole in the pipe a few feet below the well head. I would first try to install a schrader valve at the top of the galvanized tank. Of course that would require you to periodically check and recharge the tank air. If that is required too often then you probably need a new tank. Well, if nobody minds, I have this to add. Seems like a ****load of trouble. Wouldn't it be a lot easier just to hook up to the city main? That's how I did it here at Sunset Chateau. |
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HOW ABOUT THAT "water well tank waterlogged"?
On Tue, 13 Jun 2017 06:17:55 -0700, "fake vet Colon Edmund J. Burke"
wrote: On 6/13/2017 5:50 AM, CRNG wrote: On Mon, 12 Jun 2017 21:13:34 +0000 (UTC), MarkK wrote in On Mon, 12 Jun 2017 15:22:40 -0500, CRNG wrote: On Mon, 12 Jun 2017 17:18:22 +0000 (UTC), MarkK Is this a bladder tank No, it's a galvanized tank. But is the water contained within a bladder within the galvanized tank? Does the tank have a air valve on top of it? (looks like a valve on a tire or inner-tube) It's just a galvanized tank. It contains no bladder and it has no schraider valve on top. Then the plumbing/well guy is probably correct about the tank water-logging. However I would be very nervous about his suggestion to drill a small hole in the pipe a few feet below the well head. I would first try to install a schrader valve at the top of the galvanized tank. Of course that would require you to periodically check and recharge the tank air. If that is required too often then you probably need a new tank. Well, if nobody minds, I have this to add. Seems like a ****load of trouble. Wouldn't it be a lot easier just to hook up to the city main? That's how I did it here at Sunset Chateau. You get your drinking water from the city sewer??? -- Illuc vadam nisi Dei gratia. Tu [sic] es [sic] mulieri [sic] nequam [sic] (LOL) |
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On 6/13/2017 7:02 AM, Mary Riendeau-Shein wrote:
On Tue, 13 Jun 2017 06:17:55 -0700, "fake vet Colon Edmund J. Burke" wrote: On 6/13/2017 5:50 AM, CRNG wrote: On Mon, 12 Jun 2017 21:13:34 +0000 (UTC), MarkK wrote in On Mon, 12 Jun 2017 15:22:40 -0500, CRNG wrote: On Mon, 12 Jun 2017 17:18:22 +0000 (UTC), MarkK Is this a bladder tank No, it's a galvanized tank. But is the water contained within a bladder within the galvanized tank? Does the tank have a air valve on top of it? (looks like a valve on a tire or inner-tube) It's just a galvanized tank. It contains no bladder and it has no schraider valve on top. Then the plumbing/well guy is probably correct about the tank water-logging. However I would be very nervous about his suggestion to drill a small hole in the pipe a few feet below the well head. I would first try to install a schrader valve at the top of the galvanized tank. Of course that would require you to periodically check and recharge the tank air. If that is required too often then you probably need a new tank. Well, if nobody minds, I have this to add. Seems like a ****load of trouble. Wouldn't it be a lot easier just to hook up to the city main? That's how I did it here at Sunset Chateau. You get your drinking water from the city sewer??? -- Illuc vadam nisi Dei gratia. Tu [sic] es [sic] mulieri [sic] nequam [sic] (LOL) It's called a water main, most ignorant ****ess. Better stick to sucking cock; it's wot you colostomied ****esses do best. LOL |
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"Colonel Edmund J. Burke" wrote in
: On 6/13/2017 7:02 AM, Mary Riendeau-Shein wrote: On Tue, 13 Jun 2017 06:17:55 -0700, "fake vet Colon Edmund J. Burke" wrote: On 6/13/2017 5:50 AM, CRNG wrote: On Mon, 12 Jun 2017 21:13:34 +0000 (UTC), MarkK wrote in On Mon, 12 Jun 2017 15:22:40 -0500, CRNG wrote: On Mon, 12 Jun 2017 17:18:22 +0000 (UTC), MarkK Is this a bladder tank No, it's a galvanized tank. But is the water contained within a bladder within the galvanized tank? Does the tank have a air valve on top of it? (looks like a valve on a tire or inner-tube) It's just a galvanized tank. It contains no bladder and it has no schraider valve on top. Then the plumbing/well guy is probably correct about the tank water-logging. However I would be very nervous about his suggestion to drill a small hole in the pipe a few feet below the well head. I would first try to install a schrader valve at the top of the galvanized tank. Of course that would require you to periodically check and recharge the tank air. If that is required too often then you probably need a new tank. Well, if nobody minds, I have this to add. Seems like a ****load of trouble. Wouldn't it be a lot easier just to hook up to the city main? That's how I did it here at Sunset Chateau. You get your drinking water from the city sewer??? -- Illuc vadam nisi Dei gratia. Tu [sic] es [sic] mulieri [sic] nequam [sic] (LOL) It's called a water main, most ignorant ****ess. Better stick to sucking cock; it's wot you colostomied ****esses do best. LOL Bwaahahahaha! He smoked you like a cheap cigar, Urinal Burke! LOL! -- http://imgur.com/a/d5Z4l ROFL LMAO LOLLITY LOLOL!!! HAIL BRENNUS! |
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On Tue, 13 Jun 2017 08:46:48 -0500, Unquestionably Confused
wrote: Not sure to whom you're directing the question but the OP has stated that it's not a bladder tank, it's a galvanized tank, it has no Schrader valve on top. That works for me since I've never seen a bladder tank without a Schrader valve on top, nor have I seen one that is galvanized. Plus they typically have a very prominent label indicating they are bladder tanks, charging instructions, etc. Those old galvanized tanks are huge compared top a bladder tank (the point of the bladder). I would chuck the big tank and buy a bladder tank. |
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On 6/13/2017 7:31 AM, Brennus Emeritus wrote:
"Colonel Edmund J. Burke" wrote in : On 6/13/2017 7:02 AM, Mary Riendeau-Shein wrote: On Tue, 13 Jun 2017 06:17:55 -0700, "fake vet Colon Edmund J. Burke" wrote: On 6/13/2017 5:50 AM, CRNG wrote: On Mon, 12 Jun 2017 21:13:34 +0000 (UTC), MarkK wrote in On Mon, 12 Jun 2017 15:22:40 -0500, CRNG wrote: On Mon, 12 Jun 2017 17:18:22 +0000 (UTC), MarkK Is this a bladder tank No, it's a galvanized tank. But is the water contained within a bladder within the galvanized tank? Does the tank have a air valve on top of it? (looks like a valve on a tire or inner-tube) It's just a galvanized tank. It contains no bladder and it has no schraider valve on top. Then the plumbing/well guy is probably correct about the tank water-logging. However I would be very nervous about his suggestion to drill a small hole in the pipe a few feet below the well head. I would first try to install a schrader valve at the top of the galvanized tank. Of course that would require you to periodically check and recharge the tank air. If that is required too often then you probably need a new tank. Well, if nobody minds, I have this to add. Seems like a ****load of trouble. Wouldn't it be a lot easier just to hook up to the city main? That's how I did it here at Sunset Chateau. You get your drinking water from the city sewer??? -- Illuc vadam nisi Dei gratia. Tu [sic] es [sic] mulieri [sic] nequam [sic] (LOL) It's called a water main, most ignorant ****ess. Better stick to sucking cock; it's wot you colostomied ****esses do best. LOL Bwaahahahaha! He smoked you like a cheap cigar, Urinal Burke! LOL! Get back on yer meds, Goat Sniffer! LOLOL |
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On Tue, 13 Jun 2017 07:22:58 -0700, "fake vet Colon Edmund J. Burke"
wrote: On 6/13/2017 7:02 AM, Mary Riendeau-Shein wrote: Well, if nobody minds, I have this to add. Seems like a ****load of trouble. Wouldn't it be a lot easier just to hook up to the city main? That's how I did it here at Sunset Chateau. You get your drinking water from the city sewer??? It's called a water main, most ignorant ****ess. It's called a sewer main, you ****sucking moulignan! Better stick to sucking cock Yes, you'd better. -- Illuc vadam nisi Dei gratia. Tu [sic] es [sic] mulieri [sic] nequam [sic] (LOL) |
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"Colonel Edmund J. Burke" wrote in news:sdT%
: On 6/13/2017 7:31 AM, Brennus Emeritus wrote: "Colonel Edmund J. Burke" wrote in : On 6/13/2017 7:02 AM, Mary Riendeau-Shein wrote: On Tue, 13 Jun 2017 06:17:55 -0700, "fake vet Colon Edmund J. Burke" wrote: On 6/13/2017 5:50 AM, CRNG wrote: On Mon, 12 Jun 2017 21:13:34 +0000 (UTC), MarkK wrote in On Mon, 12 Jun 2017 15:22:40 -0500, CRNG wrote: On Mon, 12 Jun 2017 17:18:22 +0000 (UTC), MarkK Is this a bladder tank No, it's a galvanized tank. But is the water contained within a bladder within the galvanized tank? Does the tank have a air valve on top of it? (looks like a valve on a tire or inner-tube) It's just a galvanized tank. It contains no bladder and it has no schraider valve on top. Then the plumbing/well guy is probably correct about the tank water-logging. However I would be very nervous about his suggestion to drill a small hole in the pipe a few feet below the well head. I would first try to install a schrader valve at the top of the galvanized tank. Of course that would require you to periodically check and recharge the tank air. If that is required too often then you probably need a new tank. Well, if nobody minds, I have this to add. Seems like a ****load of trouble. Wouldn't it be a lot easier just to hook up to the city main? That's how I did it here at Sunset Chateau. You get your drinking water from the city sewer??? -- Illuc vadam nisi Dei gratia. Tu [sic] es [sic] mulieri [sic] nequam [sic] (LOL) It's called a water main, most ignorant ****ess. Better stick to sucking cock; it's wot you colostomied ****esses do best. LOL Bwaahahahaha! He smoked you like a cheap cigar, Urinal Burke! LOL! Get back on yer meds, Goat Sniffer! LOLOL C.H.E.A.P. C.I.G.A.R. LOL! -- http://imgur.com/a/d5Z4l ROFL LMAO LOLLITY LOLOL!!! HAIL BRENNUS! |
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On 6/13/2017 8:24 AM, Mary Riendeau-Shein wrote:
On Tue, 13 Jun 2017 07:22:58 -0700, "fake vet Colon Edmund J. Burke" wrote: On 6/13/2017 7:02 AM, Mary Riendeau-Shein wrote: Well, if nobody minds, I have this to add. Seems like a ****load of trouble. Wouldn't it be a lot easier just to hook up to the city main? That's how I did it here at Sunset Chateau. You get your drinking water from the city sewer??? It's called a water main, most ignorant ****ess. It's called a sewer main, you ****sucking moulignan! Better stick to sucking cock Yes, you'd better. -- Illuc vadam nisi Dei gratia. Tu [sic] es [sic] mulieri [sic] nequam [sic] (LOL) Water main and sewer mains are different things, Miss Recktum. Everywhere except that ******** you wallow in. LOL |
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"Colonel Edmund J. Burke" wrote in
: On 6/13/2017 8:24 AM, Mary Riendeau-Shein wrote: On Tue, 13 Jun 2017 07:22:58 -0700, "fake vet Colon Edmund J. Burke" wrote: On 6/13/2017 7:02 AM, Mary Riendeau-Shein wrote: Well, if nobody minds, I have this to add. Seems like a ****load of trouble. Wouldn't it be a lot easier just to hook up to the city main? That's how I did it here at Sunset Chateau. You get your drinking water from the city sewer??? It's called a water main, most ignorant ****ess. It's called a sewer main, you ****sucking moulignan! Better stick to sucking cock Yes, you'd better. -- Illuc vadam nisi Dei gratia. Tu [sic] es [sic] mulieri [sic] nequam [sic] (LOL) Water main and sewer mains are different things, Miss Recktum. Everywhere except that ******** you wallow in. LOL You got burned bad, Urinal Burke! LOL! -- http://imgur.com/a/d5Z4l ROFL LMAO LOLLITY LOLOL!!! HAIL BRENNUS! |
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On 6/15/2017 5:39 AM, Brennus Emeritus wrote:
"Colonel Edmund J. Burke" wrote in : On 6/13/2017 8:24 AM, Mary Riendeau-Shein wrote: On Tue, 13 Jun 2017 07:22:58 -0700, "fake vet Colon Edmund J. Burke" wrote: On 6/13/2017 7:02 AM, Mary Riendeau-Shein wrote: Well, if nobody minds, I have this to add. Seems like a ****load of trouble. Wouldn't it be a lot easier just to hook up to the city main? That's how I did it here at Sunset Chateau. You get your drinking water from the city sewer??? It's called a water main, most ignorant ****ess. It's called a sewer main, you ****sucking moulignan! Better stick to sucking cock Yes, you'd better. -- Illuc vadam nisi Dei gratia. Tu [sic] es [sic] mulieri [sic] nequam [sic] (LOL) Water main and sewer mains are different things, Miss Recktum. Everywhere except that ******** you wallow in. LOL You got burned bad, Urinal Burke! LOL! Miss Recktum? Looks like you gots a new bum buddy. LOL |
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