http://www.breitbart.com/national-se...ations-taiwan/

"President-elect Donald Trump spoke with President Tsai
Ing-wen of Taiwan on Friday, who offered her congratulations
on his victory and discussed the close economic, political,
and security ties between the two countries."

He is not even in office yet and is acting like a
better president than as far back as Reagan!

On Fri, 2 Dec 2016 18:10:10 -0800, T wrote:

http://www.breitbart.com/national-se...ations-taiwan/

"President-elect Donald Trump spoke with President Tsai
Ing-wen of Taiwan on Friday, who offered her congratulations
on his victory and discussed the close economic, political,
and security ties between the two countries."

He is not even in office yet and is acting like a
better president than as far back as Reagan!

He's done more good for this country since the election than ****-for-brains has in his entire life.

On 12/2/2016 10:02 PM, Gordon Shumway wrote:
On Fri, 2 Dec 2016 18:10:10 -0800, T wrote:

http://www.breitbart.com/national-se...ations-taiwan/

"President-elect Donald Trump spoke with President Tsai
Ing-wen of Taiwan on Friday, who offered her congratulations
on his victory and discussed the close economic, political,
and security ties between the two countries."

He is not even in office yet and is acting like a
better president than as far back as Reagan!

He's done more good for this country since the election than ****-for-brains has in his entire life.


State Department is going nuts. They want to give him talking points.
Screw that, talk man to man!

On 12/2/2016 9:08 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 12/2/2016 10:02 PM, Gordon Shumway wrote:
On Fri, 2 Dec 2016 18:10:10 -0800, T wrote:

http://www.breitbart.com/national-se...ations-taiwan/


"President-elect Donald Trump spoke with President Tsai
Ing-wen of Taiwan on Friday, who offered her congratulations
on his victory and discussed the close economic, political,
and security ties between the two countries."

He is not even in office yet and is acting like a
better president than as far back as Reagan!

He's done more good for this country since the election than
****-for-brains has in his entire life.


State Department is going nuts. They want to give him talking points.
Screw that, talk man to man!

yeah!

--
Maggie

On 12/02/2016 08:51 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 12/2/2016 9:08 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 12/2/2016 10:02 PM, Gordon Shumway wrote:
On Fri, 2 Dec 2016 18:10:10 -0800, T wrote:

http://www.breitbart.com/national-se...ations-taiwan/


"President-elect Donald Trump spoke with President Tsai
Ing-wen of Taiwan on Friday, who offered her congratulations
on his victory and discussed the close economic, political,
and security ties between the two countries."

He is not even in office yet and is acting like a
better president than as far back as Reagan!

He's done more good for this country since the election than
****-for-brains has in his entire life.


State Department is going nuts. They want to give him talking points.
Screw that, talk man to man!

yeah!



Let see Left Wing Regressive Foreign Policy 101:

Enemies: appease them

Friends: screw them

Thank goodness this won't be the case for the next eight years!

This is going to be YUGE !!!!

On Friday, December 2, 2016 at 9:10:11 PM UTC-5, T wrote:
http://www.breitbart.com/national-se...ations-taiwan/

"President-elect Donald Trump spoke with President Tsai
Ing-wen of Taiwan on Friday, who offered her congratulations
on his victory and discussed the close economic, political,
and security ties between the two countries."

He is not even in office yet and is acting like a
better president than as far back as Reagan!


Inept comparison. Reagan never spoke with Taiwan directly. Neither
has any other president since Nixon recognized China. More
importantly, Trump most likely did not do it as part of any new policy
but rather due to his total lack of preparedness for the job.
Expect a lot more of it.

On Sat, 3 Dec 2016 07:14:27 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:





Inept comparison. Reagan never spoke with Taiwan directly. Neither
has any other president since Nixon recognized China. More
importantly, Trump most likely did not do it as part of any new policy
but rather due to his total lack of preparedness for the job.
Expect a lot more of it.


But is that a bad thing? He's talked to a few leaders now. Maybe a
phone call and man to man talk over a beer is better than diplomats
trying to make everyone look good. Remains to be seen what happens,
but many neighbor disputes are solved over a beer or coffee rather
than lawyers.

On Sat, 03 Dec 2016 10:31:15 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On Sat, 3 Dec 2016 07:14:27 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:





Inept comparison. Reagan never spoke with Taiwan directly. Neither
has any other president since Nixon recognized China. More
importantly, Trump most likely did not do it as part of any new policy
but rather due to his total lack of preparedness for the job.
Expect a lot more of it.


But is that a bad thing? He's talked to a few leaders now. Maybe a
phone call and man to man talk over a beer is better than diplomats
trying to make everyone look good. Remains to be seen what happens,
but many neighbor disputes are solved over a beer or coffee rather
than lawyers.

Certainly a great way to pave the way for a new Trump hotel in that
country......

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...opment-inquiry

On Saturday, December 3, 2016 at 10:31:15 AM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On Sat, 3 Dec 2016 07:14:27 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:





Inept comparison. Reagan never spoke with Taiwan directly. Neither
has any other president since Nixon recognized China. More
importantly, Trump most likely did not do it as part of any new policy
but rather due to his total lack of preparedness for the job.
Expect a lot more of it.


But is that a bad thing?

Yes, if Trump did it without realizing the implications. It also
seems like a bad idea to start ****ing off the Chinese before trying
to get them to do what he wants them to do regarding trade with the USA.
In short, before starting a ****ing match, isn't it better to have a
strategy? He doesn't even have a Sec of State yet.



He's talked to a few leaders now. Maybe a
phone call and man to man talk over a beer is better than diplomats
trying to make everyone look good. Remains to be seen what happens,
but many neighbor disputes are solved over a beer or coffee rather
than lawyers.

You really think the Taiwan/China thing is going to be solved over a
beer? If it gets solved with words, actions without a strategy, the
likely result is to be China taking Taiwan. Trump has already signaled
that he thinks the US should disengage from Asia, that we have no vital
interests there, etc. How much of a green light did Saddam need?
Plus there is no Taiwan thing that needs fixing, so this seems about
as boneheaded as the bug up Trump's ass about flag burning.

On 12/3/2016 7:57 AM, trader_4 wrote:
On Saturday, December 3, 2016 at 10:31:15 AM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On Sat, 3 Dec 2016 07:14:27 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:





Inept comparison. Reagan never spoke with Taiwan directly. Neither
has any other president since Nixon recognized China. More
importantly, Trump most likely did not do it as part of any new policy
but rather due to his total lack of preparedness for the job.
Expect a lot more of it.


But is that a bad thing?

Yes, if Trump did it without realizing the implications. It also
seems like a bad idea to start ****ing off the Chinese before trying
to get them to do what he wants them to do regarding trade with the USA.
In short, before starting a ****ing match, isn't it better to have a
strategy? He doesn't even have a Sec of State yet.


I am sure he realized the implications. What is wrong with ****ing off
the Chinese? Bending over backwards for them has not realized any
benefits. **** them off, and make them realize they need to do
something positive to get our cooperation.

Just like Cuba. Dumbo hands them everything with nothing in return,
just more "hope". Idiot.

On Sat, 3 Dec 2016 07:14:27 -0800 (PST)
trader_4 wrote:

Inept


She called him...you lost again...

Suck it up Buttercup.

On Sat, 3 Dec 2016 07:57:38 -0800 (PST)
trader_4 wrote:

Trump


She called him! Do try to deal in current facts.

Stop whining you act like debbie shults.

Suck it up buttercup

On Sat, 03 Dec 2016 15:46:42 +0000
Stormin' Norman wrote:

From: Stormin' Norman
Subject: Taiwan
Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2016 15:46:42 +0000
User-Agent: ForteAgent/7.00.32.1200
Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
Organization: albasani.net


She called him....take about your fake news..you
deal in it.

Suck it up buttercup.

On 12/3/2016 2:29 AM, T wrote:
On 12/02/2016 08:51 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 12/2/2016 9:08 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 12/2/2016 10:02 PM, Gordon Shumway wrote:
On Fri, 2 Dec 2016 18:10:10 -0800, T wrote:

http://www.breitbart.com/national-se...ations-taiwan/



"President-elect Donald Trump spoke with President Tsai
Ing-wen of Taiwan on Friday, who offered her congratulations
on his victory and discussed the close economic, political,
and security ties between the two countries."

He is not even in office yet and is acting like a
better president than as far back as Reagan!

He's done more good for this country since the election than
****-for-brains has in his entire life.


State Department is going nuts. They want to give him talking points.
Screw that, talk man to man!

yeah!



Let see Left Wing Regressive Foreign Policy 101:

Enemies: appease them

Friends: screw them

Thank goodness this won't be the case for the next eight years!

This is going to be YUGE !!!!

haha That's down the the smallest common denominator for sure!

--
Maggie

On 12/3/16 10:31 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On Sat, 3 Dec 2016 07:14:27 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:





Inept comparison. Reagan never spoke with Taiwan directly. Neither
has any other president since Nixon recognized China. More
importantly, Trump most likely did not do it as part of any new policy
but rather due to his total lack of preparedness for the job.
Expect a lot more of it.


But is that a bad thing? He's talked to a few leaders now. Maybe a
phone call and man to man talk over a beer is better than diplomats
trying to make everyone look good. Remains to be seen what happens,
but many neighbor disputes are solved over a beer or coffee rather
than lawyers.

The most interesting part is that Beijing is blaming Taiwan for
being irresponsible and calling Trump. They are trying to convince
people (themselves) that Trump did not do this on purpose. Fascinating.

On 12/3/16 10:57 AM, trader_4 wrote:

Yes, if Trump did it without realizing the implications. It also
seems like a bad idea to start ****ing off the Chinese before trying
to get them to do what he wants them to do regarding trade with the USA.
In short, before starting a ****ing match, isn't it better to have a
strategy? He doesn't even have a Sec of State yet.


Why is it a bad thing to let them know ahead of time that there other
options floating around? Knock Beijing a little off their game. Nobody
has dared rattle their cage for decades and I don't see a problem.
Especially since in this case he didn't initiate it.




You really think the Taiwan/China thing is going to be solved over a
beer? If it gets solved with words, actions without a strategy, the
likely result is to be China taking Taiwan. Trump has already signaled
that he thinks the US should disengage from Asia, that we have no vital
interests there, etc. How much of a green light did Saddam need?
Plus there is no Taiwan thing that needs fixing, so this seems about
as boneheaded as the bug up Trump's ass about flag burning.

China doesn't have the capacity to take Taiwan and most of the open
source estimates suggest they won't for a decade or more. They probably
have the numbers in their army, but they don't have the sealift of
airlift capacity to invade. So China couldn't take Taiwan by force yet
even if they thought nobody would say anything.

On Saturday, December 3, 2016 at 11:11:01 AM UTC-5, Taxed and Spent wrote:
On 12/3/2016 7:57 AM, trader_4 wrote:
On Saturday, December 3, 2016 at 10:31:15 AM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On Sat, 3 Dec 2016 07:14:27 -0800 (PST), trader_4
wrote:





Inept comparison. Reagan never spoke with Taiwan directly. Neither
has any other president since Nixon recognized China. More
importantly, Trump most likely did not do it as part of any new policy
but rather due to his total lack of preparedness for the job.
Expect a lot more of it.


But is that a bad thing?

Yes, if Trump did it without realizing the implications. It also
seems like a bad idea to start ****ing off the Chinese before trying
to get them to do what he wants them to do regarding trade with the USA.
In short, before starting a ****ing match, isn't it better to have a
strategy? He doesn't even have a Sec of State yet.


I am sure he realized the implications. What is wrong with ****ing off
the Chinese?

How about if this whole Taiwan thing, which has been fine for 40+ years,
suddenly becomes a flash point for the world, because Trump has now
raised it, stuck his finger in their eye? Suppose China decides to
force it's way on Taiwan? Are we ready to defend Taiwan, or just let it
go? Why do we even have to take any chance of that happening, instead of
letting sleeping dogs lie? Trump doesn't give a rat's ass that Russia
invaded Ukraine, annexed Crimea. He said he'd consider recognizing their
annexation of Crimea. If you were China, what would you read into *that*?
And why is it that Trump, who has no interest in the sovereignty of
Crimea, Ukraine, suddenly has a bug up his ass about Taiwan? Maybe the
fact that a US citizen, who is friends with a former Taiwan VP,
showed up in Taiwan just weeks ago to look into participating in the
biggest real estate project in Taiwan's history has somthing to do with it?


Bending over backwards for them has not realized any
benefits.

World peace would seem to be a benefit.



**** them off, and make them realize they need to do
something positive to get our cooperation.

We'll surely see where that gets us.



Just like Cuba. Dumbo hands them everything with nothing in return,
just more "hope". Idiot.


Except of course that Cuba is a ****ant of no consequence to us
or anybody else. China is the second largest
economy in the world, a major importer of US products, and a nuclear
power. Regarding Cuba, watch what Trump does. Will he be tough,
demand change? My bet is his idiot sons are already talking to
Cuba about real estate projects and Trump will be the one to fully
open the door to them. It will be all about jobs. And since when
does Trump care about any of the civil rights, human rights, govt
of Cuba? He never mentioned Ukraine once and said he'd consider
recognizing Russia's taking of Crimea.

On Saturday, December 3, 2016 at 12:18:26 PM UTC-5, Kurt V. Ullman wrote:
On 12/3/16 10:57 AM, trader_4 wrote:

Yes, if Trump did it without realizing the implications. It also
seems like a bad idea to start ****ing off the Chinese before trying
to get them to do what he wants them to do regarding trade with the USA.
In short, before starting a ****ing match, isn't it better to have a
strategy? He doesn't even have a Sec of State yet.


Why is it a bad thing to let them know ahead of time that there other
options floating around? Knock Beijing a little off their game. Nobody
has dared rattle their cage for decades and I don't see a problem.
Especially since in this case he didn't initiate it.


Here's what's wrong with it. Trump has said we should back away from
Asia, withdraw. He's said he's consider recognizing Putin's annexation
of Crimea. He hasn't said one word about Russia having invaded half of
Ukraine. If you were China, intent on reclaiming your rogue province,
what would you read into that? How much of a green light did it take
for Saddam to conclude that the US was OK with him invading Kuwait?
So, now Trump starts stirring up something that is a potential flash
point, like Berlin was with the Russians, and you see no potential
problem? Taiwan is fine, was fine, why make problems where none exist?







You really think the Taiwan/China thing is going to be solved over a
beer? If it gets solved with words, actions without a strategy, the
likely result is to be China taking Taiwan. Trump has already signaled
that he thinks the US should disengage from Asia, that we have no vital
interests there, etc. How much of a green light did Saddam need?
Plus there is no Taiwan thing that needs fixing, so this seems about
as boneheaded as the bug up Trump's ass about flag burning.

China doesn't have the capacity to take Taiwan and most of the open
source estimates suggest they won't for a decade or more.
They probably
have the numbers in their army, but they don't have the sealift of
airlift capacity to invade. So China couldn't take Taiwan by force yet
even if they thought nobody would say anything.

Nobody thought Hitler could roll right through Europe either. And do
you really think idiot Trump thought about any of that, before sticking
his wick into a potential hornet's nest, a world flash point?
Face it, it's amateur hour with plenty more to come.

On Saturday, December 3, 2016 at 11:29:02 AM UTC-5, burfordTjustice wrote:
On Sat, 3 Dec 2016 07:14:27 -0800 (PST)
trader_4 wrote:

Inept


She called him...you lost again...

Suck it up Buttercup.

I never said otherwise. Try reading what I post, instead of listening
to voices in your head.