From the recent thread on this newsgroup "Is there any way to play a MP3
player thru Auto CD". I learned a lot about the modern car stereos, and
their features. It's been years since I bought a car stereo, and they
sure have changed.

Anyhow, I began my "shopping' at the local Walmart, but intended to buy
from a larger electronics company, such as Best Buy, or maybe even buy
online, after using the store's displays to get familiar with them. I
mainly was looking at the Pioneer brand, since I have known their name
as a good product.

However, i am back to Walmart, and another brand of stereo. I went to
Best Buy in a big city, and was bombarded with a salesman who seemed to
be speaking "greek", since he babbled off all the features and kept
trying to get me to select the most expensive units ($200 range). He
made it sound like I needed all the 'smartphone' features even after I
clearly told him I dont have a smartphone or intend to get one. His
sales pitch was obviously driven by making the biggest commission by
selling the most expensive unit, and he spoke in 'geek' rather than
common terms. Needless to say, I did not stay long, and left there more
confused than anything else.

So, I went back to Walmart, where they have all their stereos on a
display for customers to try. No one bothered me, and I was free to test
different stereos at my leisure. I first tried the lower priced Pioneer
units, and found them confusing with too many features that are geared
to smartphones and without any sort of manuals, I could not really
figure them out, with what seemed to be too many buttons....

Then I looked at some other brands, and found a Dual (brand) model
XDM280BT. On minutes I had that one figured out, and it seemed
relatively easy to use. It has AM FM CD, USB, AUX, CLOCK, and BLUETOOTH.
It has 18 presets for FM and 12 for AM radio. It sounds good, and has
plenty power, but not excessive power that will likely blow out my
factory car speakers (I am not changing speakers). It sells at Walmart
for $50, which is about what I wanted to pay, although I would have paid
$60 or $70 for the two lower priced Pioneers. However, I have no need
for streaming radio, WIFI, and all those smartphone things. And when I'm
driving, I surely dont want something that is confusing. I was able to
quickly find and download the manual for this Dual stereo online. It
also comes wth a remote control (which I really dont see a need for).

My main needs are AM FM CD USB (for playing MP3s), and a Clock. This one
has all of that.

I'm wondering of anyone knows if the Dual brand is of good quality, and
if it's warranty is decent? ANYONE KNOW?

I almost bought it, except Walmart dont have a power adaptor plug for my
96 Plymouth Voyager, and I'm not sure how to shop (online) for an
adaptor that will match both this model stereo, as well as my vehicle.
I'll probably also need a faceplate, but it says one is included,
whether or not it will fit my vehicle. But I'll make the stereo itself
to mount somehow in my dash.

By the way, does the USB on these stereos also double as a cellphone
charger? (just curious).

Comments:

On Wednesday, October 5, 2016 at 5:55:35 PM UTC-4, wrote:
From the recent thread on this newsgroup "Is there any way to play a MP3
player thru Auto CD". I learned a lot about the modern car stereos, and
their features. It's been years since I bought a car stereo, and they
sure have changed.

Anyhow, I began my "shopping' at the local Walmart, but intended to buy
from a larger electronics company, such as Best Buy, or maybe even buy
online, after using the store's displays to get familiar with them. I
mainly was looking at the Pioneer brand, since I have known their name
as a good product.

However, i am back to Walmart, and another brand of stereo. I went to
Best Buy in a big city, and was bombarded with a salesman who seemed to
be speaking "greek", since he babbled off all the features and kept
trying to get me to select the most expensive units ($200 range). He
made it sound like I needed all the 'smartphone' features even after I
clearly told him I dont have a smartphone or intend to get one. His
sales pitch was obviously driven by making the biggest commission by
selling the most expensive unit, and he spoke in 'geek' rather than
common terms. Needless to say, I did not stay long, and left there more
confused than anything else.

So, I went back to Walmart, where they have all their stereos on a
display for customers to try. No one bothered me, and I was free to test
different stereos at my leisure. I first tried the lower priced Pioneer
units, and found them confusing with too many features that are geared
to smartphones and without any sort of manuals, I could not really
figure them out, with what seemed to be too many buttons....

Then I looked at some other brands, and found a Dual (brand) model
XDM280BT. On minutes I had that one figured out, and it seemed
relatively easy to use. It has AM FM CD, USB, AUX, CLOCK, and BLUETOOTH.
It has 18 presets for FM and 12 for AM radio. It sounds good, and has
plenty power, but not excessive power that will likely blow out my
factory car speakers (I am not changing speakers). It sells at Walmart
for $50, which is about what I wanted to pay, although I would have paid
$60 or $70 for the two lower priced Pioneers. However, I have no need
for streaming radio, WIFI, and all those smartphone things. And when I'm
driving, I surely dont want something that is confusing. I was able to
quickly find and download the manual for this Dual stereo online. It
also comes wth a remote control (which I really dont see a need for).

My main needs are AM FM CD USB (for playing MP3s), and a Clock. This one
has all of that.

I'm wondering of anyone knows if the Dual brand is of good quality, and
if it's warranty is decent? ANYONE KNOW?


Never heard of them before, but there are plenty of cheap products
that work coming from China, Korea, etc. Warranty should be on the
product info, no?



I almost bought it, except Walmart dont have a power adaptor plug for my
96 Plymouth Voyager, and I'm not sure how to shop (online) for an
adaptor that will match both this model stereo, as well as my vehicle.


I haven't put a stereo in a car in decades, but the couple I did years
ago had a wiring harness where you just spliced the 12V and other
connections to the existing wires. I would think that would still work.





I'll probably also need a faceplate, but it says one is included,
whether or not it will fit my vehicle. But I'll make the stereo itself
to mount somehow in my dash.

By the way, does the USB on these stereos also double as a cellphone
charger? (just curious).

Comments:

I would suspect that it does, but that should be in the product info too.

On 10/5/2016 6:11 PM, trader_4 wrote:
Never heard of them before, but there are plenty of cheap products
that work coming from China, Korea, etc. Warranty should be on the
product info, no?



Dual Electronics Corporation is the U.S. based subsidiary of the Namsung
Corporation. Headquartered in Seoul S. Korea, Namsung is a public
company registered on the Korean Stock Exchange.
Then
Dual was a German company, that used to sell quality Turntables and
other home audio equipment.
Now
2002 - Namsung Electronics of Heathrow, Florida purchases the rights to
the Dual name for the Americas territory and begin marketing their own
products under the Dual name. They make car & marine audio
equipment as well as speaker systems for the same. They do not make
turntables of any kind.

On Wednesday, October 5, 2016 at 5:55:35 PM UTC-4,

I almost bought it, except Walmart dont have a power adaptor plug for my
96 Plymouth Voyager, and I'm not sure how to shop (online) for an
adaptor that will match both this model stereo, as well as my vehicle.
I'll probably also need a faceplate, but it says one is included,
whether or not it will fit my vehicle. But I'll make the stereo itself
to mount somehow in my dash.


The faceplate/install issue is probably the biggest. IDK what your
existing radio is like, how it's integrated, etc. But in general I
think over the years it's probably gotten harder to put an aftermarket
radio into many cars. On a lot of cars, IDK how any face plate could
make it look right. But then there are all kinds of stereo install
shops that are still in business, so I guess they put them in a lot
of cars, somehow, but I suspect those days may be dwindling.

Paint,

Back in the old days Dual made pretty good turntables. Never seen any of
their other products but it's probably ok and it has a warranty.
It puts out 50 watts per channel so make sure your speakers are rated 50
watts or above. Make sure the ohmage of the speakers is 4-8 ohms. Make sure
that the car will accept a 1 DIN size radio.
Installation and operation is covered in the manual.
Make sure you know which color wires go where since US cars may not
follow the normal convention
The USB port does work as a charger

Dave M.

They do not make turntables of any kind.




http://www.londondrugs.com/dual-auto.../L5493853.html

John T.

7:32 wrote:


" They do not make turntables of any kind.




http://www.londondrugs.com/dual-auto.../L5493853.html

John T. "


Where did you quote that from - about Dual not
making turntables?? Not this thread!

Kman,

It's the last sentence of Keith S's post.

Dave M.

L. Martel wrote: "
Kman,

It's the last sentence of Keith S's post.

Dave M. "

Saw it. Forgot how to read after I graduated college!

I think Keith is referring to the current incarnation of
Duel - just a name on a shell of Duel's former self.

On 10/5/2016 1:51 PM, wrote:
From the recent thread on this newsgroup "Is there any way to play a MP3
player thru Auto CD". I learned a lot about the modern car stereos, and
their features. It's been years since I bought a car stereo, and they
sure have changed.

Anyhow, I began my "shopping' at the local Walmart, but intended to buy
from a larger electronics company, such as Best Buy, or maybe even buy
online, after using the store's displays to get familiar with them. I
mainly was looking at the Pioneer brand, since I have known their name
as a good product.

However, i am back to Walmart, and another brand of stereo. I went to
Best Buy in a big city, and was bombarded with a salesman who seemed to
be speaking "greek", since he babbled off all the features and kept
trying to get me to select the most expensive units ($200 range). He
made it sound like I needed all the 'smartphone' features even after I
clearly told him I dont have a smartphone or intend to get one. His
sales pitch was obviously driven by making the biggest commission by
selling the most expensive unit, and he spoke in 'geek' rather than
common terms. Needless to say, I did not stay long, and left there more
confused than anything else.

So, I went back to Walmart, where they have all their stereos on a
display for customers to try. No one bothered me, and I was free to test
different stereos at my leisure. I first tried the lower priced Pioneer
units, and found them confusing with too many features that are geared
to smartphones and without any sort of manuals, I could not really
figure them out, with what seemed to be too many buttons....

Then I looked at some other brands, and found a Dual (brand) model
XDM280BT. On minutes I had that one figured out, and it seemed
relatively easy to use. It has AM FM CD, USB, AUX, CLOCK, and BLUETOOTH.
It has 18 presets for FM and 12 for AM radio. It sounds good, and has
plenty power, but not excessive power that will likely blow out my
factory car speakers (I am not changing speakers). It sells at Walmart
for $50, which is about what I wanted to pay, although I would have paid
$60 or $70 for the two lower priced Pioneers. However, I have no need
for streaming radio, WIFI, and all those smartphone things. And when I'm
driving, I surely dont want something that is confusing. I was able to
quickly find and download the manual for this Dual stereo online. It
also comes wth a remote control (which I really dont see a need for).

My main needs are AM FM CD USB (for playing MP3s), and a Clock. This one
has all of that.

I'm wondering of anyone knows if the Dual brand is of good quality, and
if it's warranty is decent? ANYONE KNOW?

I almost bought it, except Walmart dont have a power adaptor plug for my
96 Plymouth Voyager, and I'm not sure how to shop (online) for an
adaptor that will match both this model stereo, as well as my vehicle.
I'll probably also need a faceplate, but it says one is included,
whether or not it will fit my vehicle. But I'll make the stereo itself
to mount somehow in my dash.

By the way, does the USB on these stereos also double as a cellphone
charger? (just curious).

Comments:



I suggest that you look at www.crutchfield.com and then give them a ring
if you've more questions. They can help you get the installation
options, if any, that you'll need. They are a pleasure to deal with.

wrote on 10/5/2016 :
From the recent thread on this newsgroup "Is there any way to play a MP3
player thru Auto CD". I learned a lot about the modern car stereos, and
their features. It's been years since I bought a car stereo, and they
sure have changed.

Anyhow, I began my "shopping' at the local Walmart, but intended to buy
from a larger electronics company, such as Best Buy, or maybe even buy
online, after using the store's displays to get familiar with them. I
mainly was looking at the Pioneer brand, since I have known their name
as a good product.

However, i am back to Walmart, and another brand of stereo. I went to
Best Buy in a big city, and was bombarded with a salesman who seemed to
be speaking "greek", since he babbled off all the features and kept
trying to get me to select the most expensive units ($200 range). He
made it sound like I needed all the 'smartphone' features even after I
clearly told him I dont have a smartphone or intend to get one. His
sales pitch was obviously driven by making the biggest commission by
selling the most expensive unit, and he spoke in 'geek' rather than
common terms. Needless to say, I did not stay long, and left there more
confused than anything else.

So, I went back to Walmart, where they have all their stereos on a
display for customers to try. No one bothered me, and I was free to test
different stereos at my leisure. I first tried the lower priced Pioneer
units, and found them confusing with too many features that are geared
to smartphones and without any sort of manuals, I could not really
figure them out, with what seemed to be too many buttons....

Then I looked at some other brands, and found a Dual (brand) model
XDM280BT. On minutes I had that one figured out, and it seemed
relatively easy to use. It has AM FM CD, USB, AUX, CLOCK, and BLUETOOTH.
It has 18 presets for FM and 12 for AM radio. It sounds good, and has
plenty power, but not excessive power that will likely blow out my
factory car speakers (I am not changing speakers). It sells at Walmart
for $50, which is about what I wanted to pay, although I would have paid
$60 or $70 for the two lower priced Pioneers. However, I have no need
for streaming radio, WIFI, and all those smartphone things. And when I'm
driving, I surely dont want something that is confusing. I was able to
quickly find and download the manual for this Dual stereo online. It
also comes wth a remote control (which I really dont see a need for).

My main needs are AM FM CD USB (for playing MP3s), and a Clock. This one
has all of that.

I'm wondering of anyone knows if the Dual brand is of good quality, and
if it's warranty is decent? ANYONE KNOW?

I almost bought it, except Walmart dont have a power adaptor plug for my
96 Plymouth Voyager, and I'm not sure how to shop (online) for an
adaptor that will match both this model stereo, as well as my vehicle.
I'll probably also need a faceplate, but it says one is included,
whether or not it will fit my vehicle. But I'll make the stereo itself
to mount somehow in my dash.

By the way, does the USB on these stereos also double as a cellphone
charger? (just curious).

Comments:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Namsung_electronics

On Wed, 05 Oct 2016 19:33:26 -0400, wrote:



They do not make turntables of any kind.



Im sure there is no huge demand for turntables these days.

On Wed, 05 Oct 2016 23:31:51 -0400, wrote:

I'm wondering of anyone knows if the Dual brand is of good quality, and
if it's warranty is decent? ANYONE KNOW?

I put a Dual in my '96 Ranger a couple years ago and have been VERY
satisfied. No idea what kind of warrany - but if it works what good is
the warranty? And for what I paid for it - and what it would cost to
ship it to the repair depot - I'd likely just replace it again. I paid
about $50 canadian including a pair of decent speekers I didn't need
or use.


That's a good recommendation.....

I almost bought it, except Walmart dont have a power adaptor plug for my
96 Plymouth Voyager, and I'm not sure how to shop (online) for an
adaptor that will match both this model stereo, as well as my vehicle.
I'll probably also need a faceplate, but it says one is included,
whether or not it will fit my vehicle. But I'll make the stereo itself
to mount somehow in my dash.

By the way, does the USB on these stereos also double as a cellphone
charger? (just curious).

Comments:


You WILL need the DIN adapter kit to install it - and the "power
adapter" is just a set of plugs to fit the OEM harness - you splice
the wires from the dual's plugs to the "adapter" plug. - and yes, the
USB plug is capable of charging a cell phone (5 volts 1.5 amp?)

I'm not sure where to buy the DIN adaptor. Walmart has them for
Chrysler, but they dont mention Plymouth in the description on the
package. Just Dodge and Chrysler as well as Jeep.

This stereo is thinner than the factory radio. I'll probably end up
cutting some pieces of plywood the size of the hole, screwing the
plywood to the dash, and slipping the radio in between this plywood and
shooting in a few screws. It wont be pretty, but as long as it works. If
I ever sell the car, I'll probably remove the stereo and put the factory
one back. Most people dont like buying something that's hacked up, and
will pay more for the car with the factory radio even if it dont work
well.

As for the wiring, you're saying I need a plug to fit the factory plug,
and will need to wire that plug to the wires in the back of the stereo,
RIGHT?
I thought they made special adaptors that will fit any stereo to any
car. But splicing wires is fine with me. I just need to find a place to
buy the right plug. Ebay I suppose will have it.

On Wed, 05 Oct 2016 16:51:43 -0400, wrote:

From the recent thread on this newsgroup "Is there any way to play a MP3
player thru Auto CD". I learned a lot about the modern car stereos, and
their features. It's been years since I bought a car stereo, and they
sure have changed.

Anyhow, I began my "shopping' at the local Walmart, but intended to buy
from a larger electronics company, such as Best Buy, or maybe even buy
online, after using the store's displays to get familiar with them. I
mainly was looking at the Pioneer brand, since I have known their name
as a good product.

However, i am back to Walmart, and another brand of stereo. I went to
Best Buy in a big city, and was bombarded with a salesman who seemed to
be speaking "greek", since he babbled off all the features and kept
trying to get me to select the most expensive units ($200 range). He
made it sound like I needed all the 'smartphone' features even after I
clearly told him I dont have a smartphone or intend to get one. His
sales pitch was obviously driven by making the biggest commission by
selling the most expensive unit, and he spoke in 'geek' rather than
common terms. Needless to say, I did not stay long, and left there more
confused than anything else.

So, I went back to Walmart, where they have all their stereos on a
display for customers to try. No one bothered me, and I was free to test
different stereos at my leisure. I first tried the lower priced Pioneer
units, and found them confusing with too many features that are geared
to smartphones and without any sort of manuals, I could not really
figure them out, with what seemed to be too many buttons....

Then I looked at some other brands, and found a Dual (brand) model
XDM280BT. On minutes I had that one figured out, and it seemed
relatively easy to use. It has AM FM CD, USB, AUX, CLOCK, and BLUETOOTH.
It has 18 presets for FM and 12 for AM radio. It sounds good, and has
plenty power, but not excessive power that will likely blow out my
factory car speakers (I am not changing speakers). It sells at Walmart
for $50, which is about what I wanted to pay, although I would have paid
$60 or $70 for the two lower priced Pioneers. However, I have no need
for streaming radio, WIFI, and all those smartphone things. And when I'm
driving, I surely dont want something that is confusing. I was able to
quickly find and download the manual for this Dual stereo online. It
also comes wth a remote control (which I really dont see a need for).

My main needs are AM FM CD USB (for playing MP3s), and a Clock. This one
has all of that.

I'm wondering of anyone knows if the Dual brand is of good quality, and
if it's warranty is decent? ANYONE KNOW?

I put a Dual in my '96 Ranger a couple years ago and have been VERY
satisfied. No idea what kind of warrany - but if it works what good is
the warranty? And for what I paid for it - and what it would cost to
ship it to the repair depot - I'd likely just replace it again. I paid
about $50 canadian including a pair of decent speekers I didn't need
or use.

I almost bought it, except Walmart dont have a power adaptor plug for my
96 Plymouth Voyager, and I'm not sure how to shop (online) for an
adaptor that will match both this model stereo, as well as my vehicle.
I'll probably also need a faceplate, but it says one is included,
whether or not it will fit my vehicle. But I'll make the stereo itself
to mount somehow in my dash.

By the way, does the USB on these stereos also double as a cellphone
charger? (just curious).

Comments:


You WILL need the DIN adapter kit to install it - and the "power
adapter" is just a set of plugs to fit the OEM harness - you splice
the wires from the dual's plugs to the "adapter" plug. - and yes, the
USB plug is capable of charging a cell phone (5 volts 1.5 amp?)

On Wed, 5 Oct 2016 17:17:04 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

7:32 wrote:


" They do not make turntables of any kind.




http://www.londondrugs.com/dual-auto.../L5493853.html

John T. "


Where did you quote that from - about Dual not
making turntables?? Not this thread!
They USED to make turntables - not the company that currently owns
the brand though.

On 10/5/2016 10:40 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 5 Oct 2016 17:17:04 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

7:32 wrote:


" They do not make turntables of any kind.




http://www.londondrugs.com/dual-auto.../L5493853.html

John T. "


Where did you quote that from - about Dual not
making turntables?? Not this thread!
They USED to make turntables - not the company that currently owns
the brand though.


I believe you're wrong, Clare.

Check out their website

http://www.dualav.com

You'll see all manner of speakers, car audio, etc. AND a turntable

http://www.dualav.com/turntables/dt250.php

Yours for a mere $300!g

On Thu, 6 Oct 2016 08:58:31 -0500, "Terry Coombs"
wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 05 Oct 2016 19:33:26 -0400, wrote:



They do not make turntables of any kind.



Im sure there is no huge demand for turntables these days.

You might be surprised . Vinyl , tube amps , there are a lot of
audiophiles out there that prefer the sound of the "old stuff" over the
somewhat sterile sound of a computer rendering of a digital file .

Actually, I still have vinyl records and a turntable. I had the records,
but nothing to play them on. I bought the turntable at Goodwill, some
years ago. The turntable is old, and it needed a new drive belt, and I
was able to find one online. Finding cartridges and/or stylus (needles)
is getting harder.

I do agree that they sound "warmer" than digital. It's hard to explain
how they differ, but I can notice it.

Tube amps are still popular for guitar amplifiers. Guitarists claim they
sound better. I keep watching the shelves of second hand stores for tube
amplifiers and stereos. Back in the 1960's/70's, I had a pair of
matching mono tube amps, which were designed for old jukeboxes. Each amp
had four 6L6 tubes as outputs, and they were real loud and powerful. I
wish I had kept them. I used to like to watch the purple glow in those
output tubes move around when I cranked them up. The preamp tubes in
those amps were known to "ring" when the sound was loud, (which was due
to the vibration of the sound effecting the tubes themselves), and was
often bordering on feedback. Some people found that distasteful, but I
think it made the music sound more "live".

wrote:
On Wed, 05 Oct 2016 19:33:26 -0400, wrote:



They do not make turntables of any kind.



Im sure there is no huge demand for turntables these days.

You might be surprised . Vinyl , tube amps , there are a lot of
audiophiles out there that prefer the sound of the "old stuff" over the
somewhat sterile sound of a computer rendering of a digital file .
--
Snag

On Wed, 05 Oct 2016 23:06:08 -0400
wrote:

On Wed, 05 Oct 2016 19:33:26 -0400, wrote:



They do not make turntables of any kind.



Im sure there is no huge demand for turntables these days.



Vinyl is the fastest growing segment of music..

pretended :
On Thu, 6 Oct 2016 08:58:31 -0500, "Terry Coombs"
wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 05 Oct 2016 19:33:26 -0400, wrote:



They do not make turntables of any kind.



Im sure there is no huge demand for turntables these days.

You might be surprised . Vinyl , tube amps , there are a lot of
audiophiles out there that prefer the sound of the "old stuff" over the
somewhat sterile sound of a computer rendering of a digital file .

Actually, I still have vinyl records and a turntable. I had the records,
but nothing to play them on. I bought the turntable at Goodwill, some
years ago. The turntable is old, and it needed a new drive belt, and I
was able to find one online. Finding cartridges and/or stylus (needles)
is getting harder.

I do agree that they sound "warmer" than digital. It's hard to explain
how they differ, but I can notice it.

Tube amps are still popular for guitar amplifiers. Guitarists claim they
sound better. I keep watching the shelves of second hand stores for tube
amplifiers and stereos. Back in the 1960's/70's, I had a pair of
matching mono tube amps, which were designed for old jukeboxes. Each amp
had four 6L6 tubes as outputs, and they were real loud and powerful. I
wish I had kept them. I used to like to watch the purple glow in those
output tubes move around when I cranked them up. The preamp tubes in
those amps were known to "ring" when the sound was loud, (which was due
to the vibration of the sound effecting the tubes themselves), and was
often bordering on feedback. Some people found that distasteful, but I
think it made the music sound more "live".

The term was 'microphonic' when tubes did that. Some amps came with
accoustic feedback springs to mimic that 'reverb' sound. Some solid
state amps which did a fair job of sounding like tubes (rounded off
clipping waveforms, and even/odd harmonic composition) were the FET
output models. Still, they could only approximate the sound of tube
amps. Macintosh made some good hybrid amps too, I don't even know if
they are still in business.

On Thursday, October 6, 2016 at 12:29:59 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Wed, 05 Oct 2016 23:31:51 -0400, wrote:

I'm wondering of anyone knows if the Dual brand is of good quality, and
if it's warranty is decent? ANYONE KNOW?

I put a Dual in my '96 Ranger a couple years ago and have been VERY
satisfied. No idea what kind of warrany - but if it works what good is
the warranty? And for what I paid for it - and what it would cost to
ship it to the repair depot - I'd likely just replace it again. I paid
about $50 canadian including a pair of decent speekers I didn't need
or use.


That's a good recommendation.....

I almost bought it, except Walmart dont have a power adaptor plug for my
96 Plymouth Voyager, and I'm not sure how to shop (online) for an
adaptor that will match both this model stereo, as well as my vehicle.
I'll probably also need a faceplate, but it says one is included,
whether or not it will fit my vehicle. But I'll make the stereo itself
to mount somehow in my dash.

By the way, does the USB on these stereos also double as a cellphone
charger? (just curious).

Comments:


You WILL need the DIN adapter kit to install it - and the "power
adapter" is just a set of plugs to fit the OEM harness - you splice
the wires from the dual's plugs to the "adapter" plug. - and yes, the
USB plug is capable of charging a cell phone (5 volts 1.5 amp?)

I'm not sure where to buy the DIN adaptor. Walmart has them for
Chrysler, but they dont mention Plymouth in the description on the
package. Just Dodge and Chrysler as well as Jeep.

This stereo is thinner than the factory radio. I'll probably end up
cutting some pieces of plywood the size of the hole, screwing the
plywood to the dash, and slipping the radio in between this plywood and
shooting in a few screws. It wont be pretty, but as long as it works. If
I ever sell the car, I'll probably remove the stereo and put the factory
one back. Most people dont like buying something that's hacked up, and
will pay more for the car with the factory radio even if it dont work
well.

As for the wiring, you're saying I need a plug to fit the factory plug,
and will need to wire that plug to the wires in the back of the stereo,
RIGHT?
I thought they made special adaptors that will fit any stereo to any
car. But splicing wires is fine with me. I just need to find a place to
buy the right plug. Ebay I suppose will have it.

Someone suggested Crutchfield. They've been around for 40 years, selling
car stereos and similar and are a good source of info, ie what fits what
and how to get it in.

On Wed, 05 Oct 2016 23:06:08 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 05 Oct 2016 19:33:26 -0400, wrote:



They do not make turntables of any kind.



Im sure there is no huge demand for turntables these days.

Actually they ARE coming back in a pretty big way with the audiofools.
- oops - audiophiles.

On Wed, 05 Oct 2016 23:26:18 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 05 Oct 2016 23:31:51 -0400, wrote:

I'm wondering of anyone knows if the Dual brand is of good quality, and
if it's warranty is decent? ANYONE KNOW?

I put a Dual in my '96 Ranger a couple years ago and have been VERY
satisfied. No idea what kind of warrany - but if it works what good is
the warranty? And for what I paid for it - and what it would cost to
ship it to the repair depot - I'd likely just replace it again. I paid
about $50 canadian including a pair of decent speekers I didn't need
or use.


That's a good recommendation.....

I almost bought it, except Walmart dont have a power adaptor plug for my
96 Plymouth Voyager, and I'm not sure how to shop (online) for an
adaptor that will match both this model stereo, as well as my vehicle.
I'll probably also need a faceplate, but it says one is included,
whether or not it will fit my vehicle. But I'll make the stereo itself
to mount somehow in my dash.

By the way, does the USB on these stereos also double as a cellphone
charger? (just curious).

Comments:


You WILL need the DIN adapter kit to install it - and the "power
adapter" is just a set of plugs to fit the OEM harness - you splice
the wires from the dual's plugs to the "adapter" plug. - and yes, the
USB plug is capable of charging a cell phone (5 volts 1.5 amp?)

I'm not sure where to buy the DIN adaptor. Walmart has them for
Chrysler, but they dont mention Plymouth in the description on the
package. Just Dodge and Chrysler as well as Jeep.



Thats because a plymouth doesn't exixt any more and was virtually
identical to the Dodge anyway.. Buy the kit for the Dodge Caravan of
the same year - I believe it was the same kit for the Chrysler Town
and Country and half the rest of Chrysler/Dodge/Plymouth products of
the same era.. I just did some checking and ALL chrysler radios from
1985 to 2000 are physically interchangeable - and virtually all are
also plug compatible - so buy the mounting kit and wiring kit listed
for a 1996 grand caravan and go for it!!!!

Don't believe me? Go to http://www.allpar.com/stereo/head-units/ and
check for yourself....


This stereo is thinner than the factory radio. I'll probably end up
cutting some pieces of plywood the size of the hole, screwing the
plywood to the dash, and slipping the radio in between this plywood and
shooting in a few screws. It wont be pretty, but as long as it works. If
I ever sell the car, I'll probably remove the stereo and put the factory
one back. Most people dont like buying something that's hacked up, and
will pay more for the car with the factory radio even if it dont work
well.

As for the wiring, you're saying I need a plug to fit the factory plug,
and will need to wire that plug to the wires in the back of the stereo,
RIGHT?
I thought they made special adaptors that will fit any stereo to any
car. But splicing wires is fine with me. I just need to find a place to
buy the right plug. Ebay I suppose will have it.

On Thu, 6 Oct 2016 08:24:35 -0500, Unquestionably Confused
wrote:

On 10/5/2016 10:40 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 5 Oct 2016 17:17:04 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

7:32 wrote:


" They do not make turntables of any kind.




http://www.londondrugs.com/dual-auto.../L5493853.html

John T. "


Where did you quote that from - about Dual not
making turntables?? Not this thread!
They USED to make turntables - not the company that currently owns
the brand though.


I believe you're wrong, Clare.

Check out their website

http://www.dualav.com

You'll see all manner of speakers, car audio, etc. AND a turntable

http://www.dualav.com/turntables/dt250.php

Yours for a mere $300!g
Looks like the DT250 mis back in production - not sure if it is made
by the same folks as the radios or just sold by the same folks -
whether it is the Chinese entity or the German --- but yes - it looks
like I was quite possibly wrong.

wrote:
On Wed, 05 Oct 2016 23:06:08 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 05 Oct 2016 19:33:26 -0400, wrote:



They do not make turntables of any kind.



Im sure there is no huge demand for turntables these days.

Actually they ARE coming back in a pretty big way with the audiofools.
- oops - audiophiles.

I'll be setting up my reel to reel tape deck too . Just gotta pick up some
speakers , gave my best set to the oldest son for his stereo . I have found
some , just need to go get them .
Your derision for those who appreciate good sound equipment is noted .
--
Snag
Tin ear ?

On Thu, 6 Oct 2016 19:32:43 -0500, "Terry Coombs"
wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 05 Oct 2016 23:06:08 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 05 Oct 2016 19:33:26 -0400, wrote:



They do not make turntables of any kind.



Im sure there is no huge demand for turntables these days.

Actually they ARE coming back in a pretty big way with the audiofools.
- oops - audiophiles.

I'll be setting up my reel to reel tape deck too . Just gotta pick up some
speakers , gave my best set to the oldest son for his stereo . I have found
some , just need to go get them .
Your derision for those who appreciate good sound equipment is noted .
Yup. Getting my bionic ears next week.

I appreciate good sound too - and I still have a couple good
turntables - but I don't believe ANYONE can tell the difference
getween "oxygen free copper" speaker wires and normal copper wires of
the same guage. - among many other "black art" audiphile wonders.

On Thu, 06 Oct 2016 23:06:23 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 6 Oct 2016 19:32:43 -0500, "Terry Coombs"
wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 05 Oct 2016 23:06:08 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 05 Oct 2016 19:33:26 -0400, wrote:



They do not make turntables of any kind.



Im sure there is no huge demand for turntables these days.

Actually they ARE coming back in a pretty big way with the audiofools.
- oops - audiophiles.

I'll be setting up my reel to reel tape deck too . Just gotta pick up some
speakers , gave my best set to the oldest son for his stereo . I have found
some , just need to go get them .
Your derision for those who appreciate good sound equipment is noted .
Yup. Getting my bionic ears next week.

I appreciate good sound too - and I still have a couple good
turntables - but I don't believe ANYONE can tell the difference
getween "oxygen free copper" speaker wires and normal copper wires of
the same guage. - among many other "black art" audiphile wonders.
Did some checking. Dual turntables are still made in Germany -
Dual Phono GmbH
http://www.alfredfehrenbacher.de/cm/...spieler_EN.pdf
by the Alfred Fehrenbacher GmbH.
These have a CS prefix on the models.
There are also far east dual turntables sold by Dual DGC GmbH in
europe. They have a TD prefix on the model numbers.

Namsung Electronics, a Korean company, operates Dual Electronics
Corporation out of Florida. Although it is a Korean company, Namsung
operates out of Ho Chi Minh City in VietNam.. It is "posible" their
products that are handled by Dual DGC GmbH with the TD prefix, but
they may also be selling them manufactured by another company that
also supplies Dual DGC GmbH, or it could be a totally different
company.

replying to Paintedcow, � Guy wrote:
I don't like it and I'll further explained after answering some of your
questions. The USB works great for playing MP3's and is okay for charging your
phone although it doesn't put out as much power as you can get from just a
cigarette lighter higher-end USB charger. The stereo sounds good if not great
and I am quite pleased with the sound quality. I do have higher end speakers
and it doesn't put out enough power that my speakers can handle but it sounds
great. Now to the parts I don't like! When listening to FM stations the sound
muffles in and out as if someone is turning the treble way down and then way
back up and I cannot figure out a way to stop this. It does have a local for
the FM band but either setting local or not, it does not fix the problem.
Next, the USB playing MP3's works fine there is a search feature which is
quite confusing but while playing the USBs if you want to see the clock you
have to push the display button seven times. When that track or MP3 is
finished it goes back to the track title display, and then you have to push
the button seven times again to see the clock. If you do stream Bluetooth from
your phone which is one of the main reasons I bought the phone the only thing
on the display is a AV Stream, that's all and you cannot even go to the clock.
It doesn't matter what button you push it will not display the clock when you
are streaming Bluetooth. Next, I wanted to have my friend pair his phone to
the stereo so I unpaired my phone and the display was stuck on the AV Stream
and would not allow him to pair his phone. I have to go into the settings
manually turn off Bluetooth then turn it back on and he was able to pair his
phone with Bluetooth. I repeated that process 3 times and could not get it to
unpair his phone then pair my phone without having to manually go in and turn
Bluetooth off and then back on. Whether I can find my receipt or not it is
getting taken back! I will spend the extra $30 or pay full price for a new
stereo in the very near future. Probably a lower end Pioneer that actually has
Bluetooth capabilities because that is the main feature I want. To some things
up the blue display Lighting on the stereo is rudely bright and is not
dimmable.

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for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/mainte...d-1110873-.htm

On Sat, 20 May 2017 03:44:03 GMT, � Guy
m wrote:

replying to Paintedcow, ? Guy wrote:
I don't like it and I'll further explained after answering some of your
questions. The USB works great for playing MP3's and is okay for charging your
phone although it doesn't put out as much power as you can get from just a
cigarette lighter higher-end USB charger. The stereo sounds good if not great
and I am quite pleased with the sound quality. I do have higher end speakers
and it doesn't put out enough power that my speakers can handle but it sounds
great. Now to the parts I don't like! When listening to FM stations the sound
muffles in and out as if someone is turning the treble way down and then way
back up and I cannot figure out a way to stop this. It does have a local for
the FM band but either setting local or not, it does not fix the problem.
Next, the USB playing MP3's works fine there is a search feature which is
quite confusing but while playing the USBs if you want to see the clock you
have to push the display button seven times. When that track or MP3 is
finished it goes back to the track title display, and then you have to push
the button seven times again to see the clock. If you do stream Bluetooth from
your phone which is one of the main reasons I bought the phone the only thing
on the display is a AV Stream, that's all and you cannot even go to the clock.
It doesn't matter what button you push it will not display the clock when you
are streaming Bluetooth. Next, I wanted to have my friend pair his phone to
the stereo so I unpaired my phone and the display was stuck on the AV Stream
and would not allow him to pair his phone. I have to go into the settings
manually turn off Bluetooth then turn it back on and he was able to pair his
phone with Bluetooth. I repeated that process 3 times and could not get it to
unpair his phone then pair my phone without having to manually go in and turn
Bluetooth off and then back on. Whether I can find my receipt or not it is
getting taken back! I will spend the extra $30 or pay full price for a new
stereo in the very near future. Probably a lower end Pioneer that actually has
Bluetooth capabilities because that is the main feature I want. To some things
up the blue display Lighting on the stereo is rudely bright and is not
dimmable.
Have one in my old Ranger. For a CHEAP stereo, it's not bad to my tin
ears.

I have a Dual direct drive turn table hooked up to a Kenwood receiver....the sound is awesome

On Sat, 12 May 2018 19:52:12 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

I have a Dual direct drive turn table hooked up to a Kenwood receiver....the sound is awesome
The dual car stereo isn't quite a dual turntable, but pretty decent
for the price, for sure. I was happy with mine.