What's effective to put in the toilet tank to prevent those brown rust
stains in the toilet from hard well water?

I can scrub them away but would prefer something that would prevent them

TIA


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when something closes the door from the inside.

On Friday, September 2, 2016 at 12:31:16 PM UTC-5, KenK wrote:
What's effective to put in the toilet tank to prevent those brown rust
stains in the toilet from hard well water?

I can scrub them away but would prefer something that would prevent them

TIA


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You know it's time to clean the refrigerator
when something closes the door from the inside.

Flush promptly after each use.

On 2 Sep 2016 17:31:09 GMT, KenK wrote:

What's effective to put in the toilet tank to prevent those brown rust
stains in the toilet from hard well water?

I can scrub them away but would prefer something that would prevent them

TIA

If the well water causes rust, how would you "prevent" further rust
stains in the tank? Use of corrosive products to clean the tank could
potentially damage the components in the tank. YMMV

On 9/2/2016 1:31 PM, KenK wrote:
What's effective to put in the toilet tank to prevent those brown rust
stains in the toilet from hard well water?

I can scrub them away but would prefer something that would prevent them

TIA


I've got the same problem. Did not want to treat water but did add a
sediment filter which helps. Wife uses the acidic bowl cleaner every
now and then.

I was glad I did not add a treatment unit as hardness defined by amount
of calcium was only maybe a ppm too high. Close enough for me.
Neighbor with treatment discovered that you are not allowed to let the
salt flush of resin go to septic and had to pay to put in a separate
system for that.

My water tastes fine and that is all I drink and we cook with it but
wife does not like looks of sediment on standing and will buy bottled
water although she will use tap water ice cubes.

That "rust" is more likely Iron Bacteria and is very pervasive. We have learned to live with underwear (Bleach not kind to a Septic tank) that is no longer white and stains in the dishwasher. We occasionally use Rust-Out but is tedious to use and expensive.

For the toilet we got a thing called "Kaboom" dumbest name ever. It uses large white Chlorine tablets and hangs in the tank ABOVE the water level so it does not affect the water in the toilet tank. I had tried some of the in-tank things and they ate the rubber seals.

Anyway, the kaboom tablets are expensive so I got some Brominator tablets for cleaning swimming pools. About 30 x 1" diameter tablets for about 8-bucks.

Honey has not had to clean the toilet bowls for two years. Awesome thing.

I have nothing to do with Kaboom or the bromine tablets, just a very happy customer.

For stains already n the bowl, use Rust-Out and make a loose-paste (pancake batter) and brush it on. It has to "work" for about 20-minutes so you need to go back every five minutes and brush some more on as it dries out and stops working. A royal pain, but once the stain is gone the tablets will keep it that way.

Frank "frank wrote in :

My water tastes fine and that is all I drink and we cook with it but
wife does not like looks of sediment on standing and will buy bottled
water although she will use tap water ice cubes.



I've never tasted mine - after some 40 years! Maybe I should get brave. And
perhaps save money on delivered cooking and drinking water to my storage
tank.


--
You know it's time to clean the refrigerator
when something closes the door from the inside.

On Friday, September 2, 2016 at 2:01:11 PM UTC-4, Oren wrote:
On 2 Sep 2016 17:31:09 GMT, KenK wrote:

What's effective to put in the toilet tank to prevent those brown rust
stains in the toilet from hard well water?

I can scrub them away but would prefer something that would prevent them

TIA

If the well water causes rust, how would you "prevent" further rust
stains in the tank? Use of corrosive products to clean the tank could
potentially damage the components in the tank. YMMV

I suppose someone might have some additive that could be dispensed in
the tank to somehow prevent the rust from attaching to the bowl. But
I've never seen one. There are systems to remove rust from water, but
those are for a whole system and expensive. For removing the stains,
CLR, ie one of the rust removing products, or similar works extremely
well. Just apply it and rust stains
disappear with no rubbing. That would probably work for me if I had
the problem and it was limited to the toilet.

On Sat, 3 Sep 2016 10:15:57 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

On Friday, September 2, 2016 at 2:01:11 PM UTC-4, Oren wrote:
On 2 Sep 2016 17:31:09 GMT, KenK wrote:

What's effective to put in the toilet tank to prevent those brown rust
stains in the toilet from hard well water?

I can scrub them away but would prefer something that would prevent them

TIA

If the well water causes rust, how would you "prevent" further rust
stains in the tank? Use of corrosive products to clean the tank could
potentially damage the components in the tank. YMMV

I suppose someone might have some additive that could be dispensed in
the tank to somehow prevent the rust from attaching to the bowl. But
I've never seen one. There are systems to remove rust from water, but
those are for a whole system and expensive. For removing the stains,
CLR, ie one of the rust removing products, or similar works extremely
well. Just apply it and rust stains
disappear with no rubbing. That would probably work for me if I had
the problem and it was limited to the toilet.

OP is talking about rust stains in the "tank". CLR, in a slight
amount for cleaning the tank, when empty, (water off & flushed) should
be okay. I was cautioning about using more 'corrosive' products. They
my damage 'tank' parts. Point being, he may not "prevent" rust in the
tank in the future, due to his well water.

The poster mentioning rust stains in his undies, I'd suggest a
"little" CLR in the washer. I toss in a bit of TSP (red box) for
clothing stains (cleans a dishwasher to) - occasionally.

https://tinyurl.com/zl3h6es @ HD paint section aisle

Oren posted for all of us...


The poster mentioning rust stains in his undies


It's not "rust"

--
Tekkie

wrote:
What's effective to put in the toilet tank to prevent those brown rust
stains in the toilet from hard well water?
I can scrub them away but would prefer something that would prevent them
TIA
--
You know it's time to clean the refrigerator
when something closes the door from the inside.

Put automatic dishwasher powder in the tank after each flush.

On Sat, 03 Sep 2016 17:30:14 -0500, "cowabunga dude"
wrote:

Put automatic dishwasher powder in the tank after each flush.

Why?!

On 9/3/2016 7:37 PM, Oren wrote:
On Sat, 03 Sep 2016 17:30:14 -0500, "cowabunga dude"
wrote:

Put automatic dishwasher powder in the tank after each flush.

Why?!


So on the next flush you put your dishes in the bowl to wash them.

On 9/3/2016 12:52 PM, KenK wrote:
Frank "frank wrote in :

My water tastes fine and that is all I drink and we cook with it but
wife does not like looks of sediment on standing and will buy bottled
water although she will use tap water ice cubes.



I've never tasted mine - after some 40 years! Maybe I should get brave. And
perhaps save money on delivered cooking and drinking water to my storage
tank.


I've seen a well like that at friends hunting camp where water smelled.
As long as bacteria is absent it should be OK to drink. Mine has no
funny taste but, as I wrote, wife buys bottled water to drink as she
does not like to see sediment on standing. Several neighbors have water
delivered which I do not understand.

Our well is about 125 feet deep with a recharge rate of 15 gal/min.
Water has been much clearer last several months lately maybe because of
a lot of rain and wife is not cleaning bowls often.

On Saturday, September 3, 2016 at 1:40:13 PM UTC-4, Oren wrote:
On Sat, 3 Sep 2016 10:15:57 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

On Friday, September 2, 2016 at 2:01:11 PM UTC-4, Oren wrote:
On 2 Sep 2016 17:31:09 GMT, KenK wrote:

What's effective to put in the toilet tank to prevent those brown rust
stains in the toilet from hard well water?

I can scrub them away but would prefer something that would prevent them

TIA

If the well water causes rust, how would you "prevent" further rust
stains in the tank? Use of corrosive products to clean the tank could
potentially damage the components in the tank. YMMV

I suppose someone might have some additive that could be dispensed in
the tank to somehow prevent the rust from attaching to the bowl. But
I've never seen one. There are systems to remove rust from water, but
those are for a whole system and expensive. For removing the stains,
CLR, ie one of the rust removing products, or similar works extremely
well. Just apply it and rust stains
disappear with no rubbing. That would probably work for me if I had
the problem and it was limited to the toilet.

OP is talking about rust stains in the "tank".

I didn't read it that way. I read it as he wants to put something
in the tank to prevent rust stains in the toilet, most likely meaning
the visible part, ie the bowl. He said he scrubs the stains, IDK
anyone that scrubs the inside of the tank, for all practical purposes
that isn't possible.




CLR, in a slight
amount for cleaning the tank, when empty, (water off & flushed) should
be okay. I was cautioning about using more 'corrosive' products. They
my damage 'tank' parts. Point being, he may not "prevent" rust in the
tank in the future, due to his well water.


I agree, I wouldn't put CLR or similar in the tank, but I don't
think that's what he wants to do. Sounded like he was looking for
a Tidy Bowl kind of product that would prevent rust in the bowl to me.



The poster mentioning rust stains in his undies, I'd suggest a
"little" CLR in the washer. I toss in a bit of TSP (red box) for
clothing stains (cleans a dishwasher to) - occasionally.

https://tinyurl.com/zl3h6es @ HD paint section aisle

That might work.

Ed Pawlowski posted for all of us...



On 9/3/2016 7:37 PM, Oren wrote:
On Sat, 03 Sep 2016 17:30:14 -0500, "cowabunga dude"
wrote:

Put automatic dishwasher powder in the tank after each flush.

Why?!


So on the next flush you put your dishes in the bowl to wash them.

That would mean I would have to move them from the sink where I wash them
every time I pee.

--
Tekkie

On Fri, 02 Sep 2016 11:00:56 -0700, Oren wrote:

What's effective to put in the toilet tank to prevent those brown rust
stains in the toilet from hard well water?

I can scrub them away but would prefer something that would prevent them

TIA

If the well water causes rust, how would you "prevent" further rust
stains in the tank? Use of corrosive products to clean the tank could
potentially damage the components in the tank. YMMV

Oren my huckleberry friend,

You forgot about brown cooties already?
You taught me all about them!

I suspect what the OP "thinks" is rust, is the brown cooties you described
in my sister's toilet bowl.

Remember I tried a dozen chemicals from phosphoric acid to pool acid?
I tried bleach. I tried vinegar. I tried Ajax. I tried every powder in the
kitchen.

Nothing works as well as plain old pool acid.
Gone in an instant.

To the OP. Run a search for my name in
http://tinyurl.com/alt-home-repair

Put a couple of keywords about the toilet bowl cleaning and you'll find the
pictures.

I have given a half-dozen neighbors jars of pool acid since, and they all
cleaned their toilet bowls of what we can nicely term "rust" but which
isn't rust in the least (as proven by the fact that the rust removers did
nothing and the bleach bleached them white).

To the OP:
What you have most likely is some kind of mineral deposit (depending on
your water, mine was calcium carbonates) with poo poo on top.

On 2 Sep 2016 17:31:09 GMT, KenK wrote:

What's effective to put in the toilet tank to prevent those brown rust
stains in the toilet from hard well water?

I can scrub them away but would prefer something that would prevent them

Does it look like this?
https://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a...g/12667260.jpg

It's probably not rust because if it were rust, the phosphoric acid would
have worked:
https://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a...g/12667874.jpg

Oren kindly explained to me what it really was:
https://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a...g/12667907.jpg

I documented the use of all the chemicals that people suggested:
https://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a...g/12667287.jpg

Go to tinyurl.com/alt-home-repair and search for:
Experiment removing brown toilet bowl stains with various acids

You'll find this thread where I documented every household chemical:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!ms...lt.home.repair

Here is the final experiment in progress:
https://www3.picturepush.com/photo/a...g/12668081.jpg

And here is the penultimate picture, with only a little more to go:
https://www3.picturepush.com/photo/a...g/12668466.jpg

Here are composite photos from that thread:
https://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a...g/12671545.jpg
https://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a...g/12671632.png

So, your *first* revelation is to realize that it's not rust.
Ask Oren for the details.

On Thu, 8 Sep 2016 03:27:26 -0000 (UTC), Danny D. wrote:

So, your *first* revelation is to realize that it's not rust.
Ask Oren for the details.

Ooops. I just realized the OP was talking about the TANK!
But noticed that the tank also got cleaned as well.
https://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a...g/12671545.jpg

I don't know what the brown stuff is in the tank.

Oren ... you're the expert ... what it is?

Is it cooties?
(Probably not because the take is before the bowl.)

On Thu, 8 Sep 2016 03:31:09 -0000 (UTC), "Danny D."
wrote:

On Thu, 8 Sep 2016 03:27:26 -0000 (UTC), Danny D. wrote:

So, your *first* revelation is to realize that it's not rust.
Ask Oren for the details.

Ooops. I just realized the OP was talking about the TANK!
But noticed that the tank also got cleaned as well.
https://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a...g/12671545.jpg

I don't know what the brown stuff is in the tank.

Oren ... you're the expert ... what it is?

Is it cooties?
(Probably not because the take is before the bowl.)

Not an expert, bhaller first brought up pool acid for a "slow flush"
toilet. I looked further, used his method with success on cooties.

Your bowl had cooties. OP states "rust" in the tank. Why I cautioned
him about acid in the tank with metal parts. CLR would be a good
choice in this instance. Having not seen a photo as you provided in
your thread.

On Thu, 08 Sep 2016 10:42:09 -0700, Oren wrote:

Your bowl had cooties. OP states "rust" in the tank. Why I cautioned
him about acid in the tank with metal parts. CLR would be a good
choice in this instance. Having not seen a photo as you provided in
your thread.

My sister's bowl had "rust colored" schmutz on the inside walls of the
tank, which were "disappeared" by the pool acid.

For cleaning 'terlets, there's nothing better!