I have 13 chest type freezers, a couple of upright freezers and a two
Ice Machines having to do with my business.
The freezers are not always in use, so are shut off until needed.
I have one or two that will leak out if the are shutoff, so we no
long shut them off, we either leave them on when empty or move items in
from another freezer that we can shut off.

Question one)

Explain to my why the freezer will leak refrigerant when it is off but
not on.

Question two)

Sometimes when I go to restart a freezer after it is off for a few
weeks or month, it does not want to start. The breaker in the compressor
just keeps cycling. Usually after enough time passes It finally starts
and will run fine from then on. Why?

Question three)

I would like to get enough education to be able to add
refrigerant when a freezer needs it. The electrical part I have a good
handle on, I have gauges and have no problem installing a Piercing type
Shrader Valve.
I need to know how to decide if a problem is caused by low
refrigerant, I'm not one to just do something because that's what I
know, I want to troubleshoot and come to a logical conclusion.

Has anyone seen a good video that helped or a book that is
focused on home freezer?

Help is appreciated.

I have a brother in law that does refrigeration and he usually fixes
things when needed. He never charges me enough and I don't like to
have him do it because of that.

Mikek

On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 09:46:24 -0500, amdx wrote:

I have 13 chest type freezers, a couple of upright freezers and a two
Ice Machines having to do with my business.
The freezers are not always in use, so are shut off until needed.
I have one or two that will leak out if the are shutoff, so we no
long shut them off, we either leave them on when empty or move items in
from another freezer that we can shut off.

Question one)

Explain to my why the freezer will leak refrigerant when it is off but
not on.

Question two)

Sometimes when I go to restart a freezer after it is off for a few
weeks or month, it does not want to start. The breaker in the compressor
just keeps cycling. Usually after enough time passes It finally starts
and will run fine from then on. Why?

Question three)

I would like to get enough education to be able to add
refrigerant when a freezer needs it. The electrical part I have a good
handle on, I have gauges and have no problem installing a Piercing type
Shrader Valve.
I need to know how to decide if a problem is caused by low
refrigerant, I'm not one to just do something because that's what I
know, I want to troubleshoot and come to a logical conclusion.

Has anyone seen a good video that helped or a book that is
focused on home freezer?

Help is appreciated.

I have a brother in law that does refrigeration and he usually fixes
things when needed. He never charges me enough and I don't like to
have him do it because of that.

Mikek

Sorry, I can't give you answers. If you feel so guilty about his low
cost; slip your sister a Benjamin.

On 7/20/2016 8:04 AM, Oren wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 09:46:24 -0500, amdx wrote:

I have 13 chest type freezers, a couple of upright freezers and a two
Ice Machines having to do with my business.
The freezers are not always in use, so are shut off until needed.
I have one or two that will leak out if the are shutoff, so we no
long shut them off, we either leave them on when empty or move items in
from another freezer that we can shut off.

Question one)

Explain to my why the freezer will leak refrigerant when it is off but
not on.

Question two)

Sometimes when I go to restart a freezer after it is off for a few
weeks or month, it does not want to start. The breaker in the compressor
just keeps cycling. Usually after enough time passes It finally starts
and will run fine from then on. Why?

Question three)

I would like to get enough education to be able to add
refrigerant when a freezer needs it. The electrical part I have a good
handle on, I have gauges and have no problem installing a Piercing type
Shrader Valve.
I need to know how to decide if a problem is caused by low
refrigerant, I'm not one to just do something because that's what I
know, I want to troubleshoot and come to a logical conclusion.

Has anyone seen a good video that helped or a book that is
focused on home freezer?

Help is appreciated.

I have a brother in law that does refrigeration and he usually fixes
things when needed. He never charges me enough and I don't like to
have him do it because of that.

Mikek

Sorry, I can't give you answers. If you feel so guilty about his low
cost; slip your sister a Benjamin.


or some free meals, or whatever.

I would like to get enough education to be able to add
refrigerant when a freezer needs it.

does the system have a "service port"?

https://www.google.com/search?q=schr...UIBygC&dpr=0.9


ie a Shrader valve like a tire air valve.

If not, it will be very difficult to refill yourself.

m

amdx writes:

Has anyone seen a good video that helped or a book that is
focused on home freezer?

Help is appreciated.

I have a brother in law that does refrigeration and he usually fixes
things when needed. He never charges me enough and I don't like to
have him do it because of that.

Mikek


Why not ask those questions of the BiL?

wrote:
I would like to get enough education to be able to add
refrigerant when a freezer needs it.

does the system have a "service port"?

https://www.google.com/search?q=schr...UIBygC&dpr=0.9


ie a Shrader valve like a tire air valve.

If not, it will be very difficult to refill yourself.

m

A quote from his original post :

"I would like to get enough education to be able to add
refrigerant when a freezer needs it. The electrical part I have a good
handle on, I have gauges and have no problem installing a Piercing type
Shrader Valve."

Apparently you need to read more carefully .
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On Wednesday, July 20, 2016 at 12:23:46 PM UTC-4, Terry Coombs wrote:
wrote:
I would like to get enough education to be able to add
refrigerant when a freezer needs it.

does the system have a "service port"?

https://www.google.com/search?q=schr...UIBygC&dpr=0.9


ie a Shrader valve like a tire air valve.

If not, it will be very difficult to refill yourself.

m

A quote from his original post :

"I would like to get enough education to be able to add
refrigerant when a freezer needs it. The electrical part I have a good
handle on, I have gauges and have no problem installing a Piercing type
Shrader Valve."

Apparently you need to read more carefully .
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hmmm, yes you are correct

On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 08:11:39 -0700, Taxed and Spent
wrote:

I have a brother in law that does refrigeration and he usually fixes
things when needed. He never charges me enough and I don't like to
have him do it because of that.

Mikek

Sorry, I can't give you answers. If you feel so guilty about his low
cost; slip your sister a Benjamin.


or some free meals, or whatever.

Fixing 17 units takes a bunch of pot roasts and tatters with carrots.

On 7/20/2016 12:36 PM, Oren wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 08:11:39 -0700, Taxed and Spent
wrote:

I have a brother in law that does refrigeration and he usually fixes
things when needed. He never charges me enough and I don't like to
have him do it because of that.

Mikek

Sorry, I can't give you answers. If you feel so guilty about his low
cost; slip your sister a Benjamin.


or some free meals, or whatever.

Fixing 17 units takes a bunch of pot roasts and tatters with carrots.


Well nothing is broken at the moment, but everything is getting older,
even me, dammit!

Mikek

In article , says...

On 7/20/2016 12:36 PM, Oren wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 08:11:39 -0700, Taxed and Spent
wrote:

I have a brother in law that does refrigeration and he usually fixes
things when needed. He never charges me enough and I don't like to
have him do it because of that.




Well nothing is broken at the moment, but everything is getting older,
even me, dammit!

Mikek


If there is a comunity college near you you may check to see if they
have any night classes you can audit. You do not get credit or anything
for them, but you only go to the ones you want. No need for a lot of
the other classes , say the electrical part, if all you want to do is
learn something specific.

There are lots of videos on You tube that tell alot about refrigeration
and aircondition.

One thing to learn is the law about how to reclaim the gas. YOu can not
simply dump it to the atmosphere like was done many years ago. Big fine
if you get caught.

Look for the Montreal Protocol. I guess that your BIL could get the
refregerant for you, but you really need to take the test and get
certified to buy it. They don't care if you know anything much about
the equipment, but need to know the law.



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On Wednesday, July 20, 2016 at 10:31:16 AM UTC-5, wrote:

I would like to get enough education to be able to add
refrigerant when a freezer needs it.

does the system have a "service port"?

https://www.google.com/search?q=schr...UIBygC&dpr=0.9

ie a Shrader valve like a tire air valve.

If not, it will be very difficult to refill yourself.

m

Some of them have a special proprietary fitting and I've had to buy an adapter from the refrigeration supply house in order to service them. Schrader valves can deteriorate and leak. If a unit doesn't leak down when running it could be that the Schrader valve on the liquid line is being kept warm and oiled which can keep it from leaking. Shut the unit down and the change in temperature can cause the valve parts to contract thus causing a leak. The O.P. really needs a leak detector to check all the service ports on his refrigeration equipment.o_O

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"amdx" wrote in message ...

On 7/20/2016 12:36 PM, Oren wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 08:11:39 -0700, Taxed and Spent
wrote:

I have a brother in law that does refrigeration and he usually fixes
things when needed. He never charges me enough and I don't like to
have him do it because of that.

Mikek

Sorry, I can't give you answers. If you feel so guilty about his low
cost; slip your sister a Benjamin.


or some free meals, or whatever.

Fixing 17 units takes a bunch of pot roasts and tatters with carrots.


Well nothing is broken at the moment, but everything is getting older,
even me, dammit!

Mikek

Well Mr. Mikek find bloody pill for it I will pay you good money for it!!!