Low on funds, and want a redneck coffee grinder in that there must be a
tool in shop which grinds coffee beans (small amounts at a time) without
having to resort to the overly expensive weak-assed motors in the consumer
brands like Gaggia.

Any idea what toolbox tool we already have that grinds coffee well?

Henry Jones wrote:
Low on funds, and want a redneck coffee grinder in that there must be a
tool in shop which grinds coffee beans (small amounts at a time) without
having to resort to the overly expensive weak-assed motors in the consumer
brands like Gaggia.

Any idea what toolbox tool we already have that grinds coffee well?

A hammer? Maybe put your coffee beans in a bag first. Good luck! : )

On 7/4/2016 1:59 PM, Henry Jones wrote:
Low on funds, and want a redneck coffee grinder in that there must be a
tool in shop which grinds coffee beans (small amounts at a time) without
having to resort to the overly expensive weak-assed motors in the consumer
brands like Gaggia.

Any idea what toolbox tool we already have that grinds coffee well?


why not get the coffee grinder you feel does the job, and find some
additional use for it out in the shop?

On Mon, 4 Jul 2016 20:59:00 +0000 (UTC), Henry Jones
wrote:

Low on funds, and want a redneck coffee grinder in that there must be a
tool in shop which grinds coffee beans (small amounts at a time) without
having to resort to the overly expensive weak-assed motors in the consumer
brands like Gaggia.

Any idea what toolbox tool we already have that grinds coffee well?

Blender

On 2016-07-04, wrote:

On Mon, 4 Jul 2016 20:59:00 +0000 (UTC), Henry Jones

Any idea what toolbox tool we already have that grinds coffee well?

Blender

Sure. I keep a blender in my toolbox at all times! (who is this
bozo?)

Hammer!

nb

On 07/04/2016 04:59 PM, Henry Jones wrote:
Low on funds, and want a redneck coffee grinder in that there must be a
tool in shop which grinds coffee beans (small amounts at a time) without
having to resort to the overly expensive weak-assed motors in the consumer
brands like Gaggia.

Any idea what toolbox tool we already have that grinds coffee well?

One of the most important traits of an excellent coffee bean grinder is
that it outputs a uniform particle size. For that, you'll need a conical
burr machine.

https://smile.amazon.com/Baratza-Vir.../dp/B00LW8I45C

On Monday, July 4, 2016 at 4:59:05 PM UTC-4, Henry Jones wrote:
Low on funds, and want a redneck coffee grinder in that there must be a
tool in shop which grinds coffee beans (small amounts at a time) without
having to resort to the overly expensive weak-assed motors in the consumer
brands like Gaggia.

Any idea what toolbox tool we already have that grinds coffee well?

No tool here even comes close.

On 2016-07-04 6:20 PM, notbob wrote:
On 2016-07-04, wrote:

On Mon, 4 Jul 2016 20:59:00 +0000 (UTC), Henry Jones

Any idea what toolbox tool we already have that grinds coffee well?

Blender

Sure. I keep a blender in my toolbox at all times! (who is this
bozo?)

Hammer!

Paint paddle on a cordless, Nope. Cement mixing drum, Nope. A file of
some description, Nope. Festool Coffee Grinder, that does not exist yet.

--
Froz....

On Mon, 04 Jul 2016 18:43:54 -0400, Walker wrote:

One of the most important traits of an excellent coffee bean grinder is
that it outputs a uniform particle size. For that, you'll need a conical
burr machine.

Maybe a drill using a conical drill bit with a metal funnel as the
container?

Conical drill bit:
http://toolmonger.com/wp-content/upl...drill-bits.jpg

Steel funnel:
http://3.imimg.com/data3/IN/FJ/MY-28...ls-250x250.jpg

Does it sound like it would work?

On Monday, July 4, 2016 at 4:59:05 PM UTC-4, Henry Jones wrote:
Low on funds, and want a redneck coffee grinder in that there must be a
tool in shop which grinds coffee beans (small amounts at a time) without
having to resort to the overly expensive weak-assed motors in the consumer
brands like Gaggia.

Any idea what toolbox tool we already have that grinds coffee well?

http://www.jeffalbro.net/wp-content/...d-only-800.jpg

On Mon, 4 Jul 2016 14:58:53 -0700, Taxed and Spent
wrote:

On 7/4/2016 1:59 PM, Henry Jones wrote:
Low on funds, and want a redneck coffee grinder in that there must be a
tool in shop which grinds coffee beans (small amounts at a time) without
having to resort to the overly expensive weak-assed motors in the consumer
brands like Gaggia.

Any idea what toolbox tool we already have that grinds coffee well?


why not get the coffee grinder you feel does the job, and find some
additional use for it out in the shop?
Make an attachment for your 1/2" router. That should have enough
power for you.

wrote:
On Mon, 4 Jul 2016 14:58:53 -0700, Taxed and Spent
wrote:

On 7/4/2016 1:59 PM, Henry Jones wrote:
Low on funds, and want a redneck coffee grinder in that there must
be a tool in shop which grinds coffee beans (small amounts at a
time) without having to resort to the overly expensive weak-assed
motors in the consumer brands like Gaggia.

Any idea what toolbox tool we already have that grinds coffee well?


why not get the coffee grinder you feel does the job, and find some
additional use for it out in the shop?
Make an attachment for your 1/2" router. That should have enough
power for you.

Or he/she could buy this one on ebay for 10 bucks delivered ...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Manual-Coffe...-/322178782554
--
Snag

On 7/4/2016 4:59 PM, Henry Jones wrote:
Low on funds, and want a redneck coffee grinder in that there must be a
tool in shop which grinds coffee beans (small amounts at a time) without
having to resort to the overly expensive weak-assed motors in the consumer
brands like Gaggia.

Any idea what toolbox tool we already have that grinds coffee well?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv3KA-VpjdE

Build your own: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPnBENWH4sw

Other options: http://www.wikihow.com/Grind-Coffee-...hout-a-Grinder

Per Terry Coombs:
Or he/she could buy this one on ebay for 10 bucks delivered ...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Manual-Coffe...-/322178782554

Call me lazy, but I find that grinding by hand gets *really* old
*really* fast if you are doing more than a cup or so.
--
Pete Cresswell

On Monday, July 4, 2016 at 6:44:37 PM UTC-4, Walker wrote:
On 07/04/2016 04:59 PM, Henry Jones wrote:
Low on funds, and want a redneck coffee grinder in that there must be a
tool in shop which grinds coffee beans (small amounts at a time) without
having to resort to the overly expensive weak-assed motors in the consumer
brands like Gaggia.

Any idea what toolbox tool we already have that grinds coffee well?

One of the most important traits of an excellent coffee bean grinder is
that it outputs a uniform particle size. For that, you'll need a conical
burr machine.

https://smile.amazon.com/Baratza-Vir.../dp/B00LW8I45C

I agree, but when you're looking to sub a shop tool, that criteria probably
went out the window.

On Tuesday, July 5, 2016 at 9:42:12 AM UTC-4, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per Terry Coombs:
Or he/she could buy this one on ebay for 10 bucks delivered ...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Manual-Coffe...-/322178782554

Call me lazy, but I find that grinding by hand gets *really* old
*really* fast if you are doing more than a cup or so.
--
Pete Cresswell

Similar situation too much work/being lazy.

We recently tried a couple of different coffee makers that grind the coffee
just prior to brewing it. One was fairly fancy, with customizable grind
settings, brew strength options, etc. The other was more basic - just grind
and brew.

Both machines had one thing in common: they required extensive cleaning after
each use. The basket for the grounds has too many nooks and crannies to allow
for a quick dump of the filter/grounds into the garbage. You have to rinse it
with a sprayer from multiple directions, then spray the grounds out of the
sink, etc. That doesn't include the nooks/crannies/chutes within the machine
itself where grounds can get stuck. The higher end machine had 3 different
pieces that had to be removed in order to perform a proper cleaning.

We went back to grinding a few days worth with a counter top electric grinder
and keeping the grounds in a sealed container. Sure, the grinding does require
some cleanup, but it's once every few days as part of the grinding process,
not the PITA clean-up that the other machines required every day, sometimes
twice a day.

DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Tuesday, July 5, 2016 at 9:42:12 AM UTC-4, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per Terry Coombs:
Or he/she could buy this one on ebay for 10 bucks delivered ...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Manual-Coffe...-/322178782554

Call me lazy, but I find that grinding by hand gets *really* old
*really* fast if you are doing more than a cup or so.
--
Pete Cresswell

Similar situation too much work/being lazy.

We recently tried a couple of different coffee makers that grind the
coffee just prior to brewing it. One was fairly fancy, with
customizable grind settings, brew strength options, etc. The other
was more basic - just grind and brew.

Both machines had one thing in common: they required extensive
cleaning after each use. The basket for the grounds has too many
nooks and crannies to allow for a quick dump of the filter/grounds
into the garbage. You have to rinse it with a sprayer from multiple
directions, then spray the grounds out of the sink, etc. That doesn't
include the nooks/crannies/chutes within the machine itself where
grounds can get stuck. The higher end machine had 3 different pieces
that had to be removed in order to perform a proper cleaning.

We went back to grinding a few days worth with a counter top electric
grinder and keeping the grounds in a sealed container. Sure, the
grinding does require some cleanup, but it's once every few days as
part of the grinding process, not the PITA clean-up that the other
machines required every day, sometimes twice a day.

I'm using a B&D electric burr grinder that's like 10 years or so old , a
10 second grind makes a 5 cup pot just the way I like it . When we were
cooking in the camper I'd grind enough for a couple of weeks at a time -
didn't want to wake the wife every morning . There's very little cleanup
involved with this unit . The OP wanted a cheap solution , I gave one ...

--
Snag

On Tuesday, July 5, 2016 at 1:03:15 PM UTC-4, Terry Coombs wrote:
DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Tuesday, July 5, 2016 at 9:42:12 AM UTC-4, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per Terry Coombs:
Or he/she could buy this one on ebay for 10 bucks delivered ...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Manual-Coffe...-/322178782554

Call me lazy, but I find that grinding by hand gets *really* old
*really* fast if you are doing more than a cup or so.
--
Pete Cresswell

Similar situation too much work/being lazy.

We recently tried a couple of different coffee makers that grind the
coffee just prior to brewing it. One was fairly fancy, with
customizable grind settings, brew strength options, etc. The other
was more basic - just grind and brew.

Both machines had one thing in common: they required extensive
cleaning after each use. The basket for the grounds has too many
nooks and crannies to allow for a quick dump of the filter/grounds
into the garbage. You have to rinse it with a sprayer from multiple
directions, then spray the grounds out of the sink, etc. That doesn't
include the nooks/crannies/chutes within the machine itself where
grounds can get stuck. The higher end machine had 3 different pieces
that had to be removed in order to perform a proper cleaning.

We went back to grinding a few days worth with a counter top electric
grinder and keeping the grounds in a sealed container. Sure, the
grinding does require some cleanup, but it's once every few days as
part of the grinding process, not the PITA clean-up that the other
machines required every day, sometimes twice a day.

I'm using a B&D electric burr grinder that's like 10 years or so old , a
10 second grind makes a 5 cup pot just the way I like it . When we were
cooking in the camper I'd grind enough for a couple of weeks at a time -
didn't want to wake the wife every morning . There's very little cleanup
involved with this unit . The OP wanted a cheap solution , I gave one ...

--
Snag

Is your B&D grinder built into the coffee maker or it is a separate unit?

On 2016-07-04, Henry Jones wrote:

Low on funds, and want a redneck coffee grinder in that there must be a
tool in shop which grinds coffee beans (small amounts at a time) without
having to resort to the overly expensive weak-assed motors in the consumer
brands like Gaggia.

Real-life suggestion:

Buy a used Zassenhaus hand grinder. I got mine fer $15 at an antique
store. I say "used", meaning an older model. Not to worry. Older Zazzies
have hardened steel conical burrs. The newer models, the burrs
are not hardened steel.

nb

On 2016-07-04, Walker wrote:

One of the most important traits of an excellent coffee bean grinder is
that it outputs a uniform particle size. For that, you'll need a conical
burr machine.

https://smile.amazon.com/Baratza-Vir.../dp/B00LW8I45C

I disagree.

Uniform particles size IS critical for espresso. Not so fer coffee.
If you use a drip filter, a hammer is good enough.

Also, one of the biggest names in commercial espresso grinders is
Mazzer. I have a Mazzer Super Jolly. It has flat burrs. Sure, I'd
prefer a conical, but Mazzer has proven they are not necessary and my
personal bias is merely that.

nb

On Tue, 5 Jul 2016 12:03:12 -0500, Terry Coombs wrote:

I'm using a B&D electric burr grinder that's like 10 years or so old , a
10 second grind makes a 5 cup pot just the way I like it . When we were
cooking in the camper I'd grind enough for a couple of weeks at a time -
didn't want to wake the wife every morning . There's very little cleanup
involved with this unit . The OP wanted a cheap solution , I gave one ...

I'm not familiar with a "Burr Grinder", but I'm all for the kind of tool
that does multiple jobs, especially since motors in kitchen appliances are
downright scrawny, while our toolbox contains beefy motors.

Is this the shop tool you use?
http://assets.jewson.co.uk/category-.../Main/9624.jpg
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....hL._SX450_.jpg
http://img.directindustry.com/images...02-3126156.jpg

What type of disc do you buy at Home Depot for that shop grinder?

On 7/5/2016 10:10 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:

We went back to grinding a few days worth with a counter top electric grinder
and keeping the grounds in a sealed container. Sure, the grinding does require
some cleanup, but it's once every few days as part of the grinding process,
not the PITA clean-up that the other machines required every day, sometimes
twice a day.



I splurged for my wife a few years ago. Baratza Virtuoso. I clean it
out once a year but does not really need it. . From the grinder it goes
into the Technivorm Mocca master.

Rather than try to repurpose an existing tool it is smarter to buy a
cheap grinder for $15 or less.

DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Tuesday, July 5, 2016 at 1:03:15 PM UTC-4, Terry Coombs wrote:
DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Tuesday, July 5, 2016 at 9:42:12 AM UTC-4, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per Terry Coombs:
Or he/she could buy this one on ebay for 10 bucks delivered ...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Manual-Coffe...-/322178782554

Call me lazy, but I find that grinding by hand gets *really* old
*really* fast if you are doing more than a cup or so.
--
Pete Cresswell

Similar situation too much work/being lazy.

We recently tried a couple of different coffee makers that grind the
coffee just prior to brewing it. One was fairly fancy, with
customizable grind settings, brew strength options, etc. The other
was more basic - just grind and brew.

Both machines had one thing in common: they required extensive
cleaning after each use. The basket for the grounds has too many
nooks and crannies to allow for a quick dump of the filter/grounds
into the garbage. You have to rinse it with a sprayer from multiple
directions, then spray the grounds out of the sink, etc. That
doesn't include the nooks/crannies/chutes within the machine itself
where grounds can get stuck. The higher end machine had 3 different
pieces that had to be removed in order to perform a proper cleaning.

We went back to grinding a few days worth with a counter top
electric grinder and keeping the grounds in a sealed container.
Sure, the grinding does require some cleanup, but it's once every
few days as part of the grinding process, not the PITA clean-up
that the other machines required every day, sometimes twice a day.

I'm using a B&D electric burr grinder that's like 10 years or so
old , a 10 second grind makes a 5 cup pot just the way I like it .
When we were cooking in the camper I'd grind enough for a couple of
weeks at a time - didn't want to wake the wife every morning .
There's very little cleanup involved with this unit . The OP wanted
a cheap solution , I gave one ...

--
Snag

Is your B&D grinder built into the coffee maker or it is a separate
unit?

Separate unit like this one
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Black-And-De...-/142043659831

--
Snag

Henry Jones wrote:
On Tue, 5 Jul 2016 12:03:12 -0500, Terry Coombs wrote:

I'm using a B&D electric burr grinder that's like 10 years or so
old , a 10 second grind makes a 5 cup pot just the way I like it .
When we were cooking in the camper I'd grind enough for a couple of
weeks at a time - didn't want to wake the wife every morning .
There's very little cleanup involved with this unit . The OP wanted
a cheap solution , I gave one ...

I'm not familiar with a "Burr Grinder", but I'm all for the kind of
tool that does multiple jobs, especially since motors in kitchen
appliances are downright scrawny, while our toolbox contains beefy
motors.

Is this the shop tool you use?
http://assets.jewson.co.uk/category-.../Main/9624.jpg
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....hL._SX450_.jpg
http://img.directindustry.com/images...02-3126156.jpg

What type of disc do you buy at Home Depot for that shop grinder?

Check the link in the reply I made to DerbyDad . And quit being an ass , I
was clearly NOT talking about a shop tool .

--
Snag

On 07/04/2016 01:59 PM, Henry Jones wrote:
Low on funds, and want a redneck coffee grinder in that there must be a
tool in shop which grinds coffee beans (small amounts at a time) without
having to resort to the overly expensive weak-assed motors in the consumer
brands like Gaggia.

Any idea what toolbox tool we already have that grinds coffee well?


Just boil the beans!

On Tue, 5 Jul 2016 12:57:41 -0500, Henry Jones wrote:

Is this the shop tool you use?

Nice pix. 'Grinder Guard' poll:

1) I leave the guard on at all times.
2) I take it off when I use the grinder, but put it back on after.
3) I leave it in the grinder toolbox with all the worn down disks.
4) I've lost my guard.

--
http://mduffy.x10host.com/index.htm

Grind your coffee with a blender. If there's no blender, use a mortar and pestle, if not a hammer.

Henry Jones
Mon, 04 Jul 2016 20:59:00 GMT in alt.home.repair, wrote:

Low on funds, and want a redneck coffee grinder in that there must
be a tool in shop which grinds coffee beans (small amounts at a
time) without having to resort to the overly expensive weak-assed
motors in the consumer brands like Gaggia.

Any idea what toolbox tool we already have that grinds coffee
well?

I've got nothing in my electrical or computer repair toolboxes that
would be able to do anything as far as grinding a coffee bean in a
realistic amount of time while still being suitable for brewing.

I suppose you could use one of the drills, but, I have no attachment
intended to grind beans... You'd have to fabricate something.

Perhaps, crushing... but, it would be slow process. Or maybe... the
dremel with the proper wheel? You'd want to put the bean in a vice or
something... probably make a bigger mess than it would viable ground
coffee.


--
MID:
Hmmm. I most certainly don't understand how I can access a copy of a
zip file but then not be able to unzip it so I can watch it. That
seems VERY clever!
http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi?ID=145716711400

On 7/4/2016 1:59 PM, Henry Jones wrote:
Low on funds, and want a redneck coffee grinder in that there must be a
tool in shop which grinds coffee beans (small amounts at a time) without
having to resort to the overly expensive weak-assed motors in the consumer
brands like Gaggia.

Any idea what toolbox tool we already have that grinds coffee well?


If you are low on funds, why don't you stop drinking coffee? That stuff
is expensive!

On Tuesday, July 5, 2016 at 1:45:26 PM UTC-4, notbob wrote:
On 2016-07-04, Walker wrote:

One of the most important traits of an excellent coffee bean grinder is
that it outputs a uniform particle size. For that, you'll need a conical
burr machine.

https://smile.amazon.com/Baratza-Vir.../dp/B00LW8I45C

I disagree.

Uniform particles size IS critical for espresso. Not so fer coffee.
If you use a drip filter, a hammer is good enough.


And what is that based on? With a burr grinder you get a uniform
particle size so that the extraction from each particle is the same.
With a cheap blade grinder, or worse, with a hammer, you get inconsistent
extraction, with fine particles over extracted, big ones barely extracted
at all. With espresso you have the additional problem that the grind
need to be fine, which a hammer can't produce, but the uniformity problem
exists with coffee too.




Also, one of the biggest names in commercial espresso grinders is
Mazzer. I have a Mazzer Super Jolly. It has flat burrs. Sure, I'd
prefer a conical, but Mazzer has proven they are not necessary and my
personal bias is merely that.

nb

On Wednesday, July 6, 2016 at 3:54:35 PM UTC-4, Diesel wrote:

If you can't grind it right, I'd just buy it at one of the stores that
have grinders there, grind it at the store, keep it in a sealed container
in the fridge.

On 2016-07-06, trader_4 wrote:

And what is that based on?

The fact I've forgotten more about coffee than you will ever know.

nb

Taxed and Spent posted for all of us...



On 7/4/2016 1:59 PM, Henry Jones wrote:
Low on funds, and want a redneck coffee grinder in that there must be a
tool in shop which grinds coffee beans (small amounts at a time) without
having to resort to the overly expensive weak-assed motors in the consumer
brands like Gaggia.

Any idea what toolbox tool we already have that grinds coffee well?


If you are low on funds, why don't you stop drinking coffee? That stuff
is expensive!

Starsucks is going to raise their prices. Just think... you can buy gasoline
cheaper than coffee. I like coffee ice cream.

--
Tekkie

On Wednesday, July 6, 2016 at 5:12:55 PM UTC-4, notbob wrote:
On 2016-07-06, trader_4 wrote:

And what is that based on?

The fact I've forgotten more about coffee than you will ever know.

nb

Then explain to us how you extract evenly when you have one piece that's
half a bean and one piece that's a pinpoint. You won't extract much at
all from the half bean. Nuff said.

On Wednesday, July 6, 2016 at 6:45:08 PM UTC-4, trader_4 wrote:
On Wednesday, July 6, 2016 at 5:12:55 PM UTC-4, notbob wrote:
On 2016-07-06, trader_4 wrote:

And what is that based on?

The fact I've forgotten more about coffee than you will ever know.

nb

Then explain to us how you extract evenly when you have one piece that's
half a bean and one piece that's a pinpoint. You won't extract much at
all from the half bean. Nuff said.

Nuff not said.

Coarse ground coffee, which is used in a french press and for cold
brewed coffee, is far from uniform.

https://www.babygizmo.com/wp-content...5/IMG_6480.jpg

On Wednesday, July 6, 2016 at 9:23:55 PM UTC-4, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Wednesday, July 6, 2016 at 6:45:08 PM UTC-4, trader_4 wrote:
On Wednesday, July 6, 2016 at 5:12:55 PM UTC-4, notbob wrote:
On 2016-07-06, trader_4 wrote:

And what is that based on?

The fact I've forgotten more about coffee than you will ever know.

nb

Then explain to us how you extract evenly when you have one piece that's
half a bean and one piece that's a pinpoint. You won't extract much at
all from the half bean. Nuff said.

Nuff not said.

Coarse ground coffee, which is used in a french press and for cold
brewed coffee, is far from uniform.

https://www.babygizmo.com/wp-content...5/IMG_6480.jpg

How do you know that coffee was run through a burr grinder and not a
cheap blade type? No one said you can't make coffee from non-uniform
grind, only that it doesn't taste as good. Plenty of people buy a
can of cheap pre-ground coffee and think that tastes good too.

On Thursday, July 7, 2016 at 10:16:26 AM UTC-4, trader_4 wrote:
On Wednesday, July 6, 2016 at 9:23:55 PM UTC-4, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Wednesday, July 6, 2016 at 6:45:08 PM UTC-4, trader_4 wrote:
On Wednesday, July 6, 2016 at 5:12:55 PM UTC-4, notbob wrote:
On 2016-07-06, trader_4 wrote:

And what is that based on?

The fact I've forgotten more about coffee than you will ever know.

nb

Then explain to us how you extract evenly when you have one piece that's
half a bean and one piece that's a pinpoint. You won't extract much at
all from the half bean. Nuff said.

Nuff not said.

Coarse ground coffee, which is used in a french press and for cold
brewed coffee, is far from uniform.

https://www.babygizmo.com/wp-content...5/IMG_6480.jpg

How do you know that coffee was run through a burr grinder and not a
cheap blade type? No one said you can't make coffee from non-uniform
grind, only that it doesn't taste as good. Plenty of people buy a
can of cheap pre-ground coffee and think that tastes good too.

Do an image search on "coarse grind" and you will see that the images
are consistent, i.e. large variations in the resulting output size. Those
variations will occur with both a cheap blade grinder, a conical burr
grinder or a flat burr grinder. Each type of grinder may produce different
levels of variations, but a coarse grind will always result in a non-uniform
grind.

For further proof, check out this video where they discuss burr grinders
and grind sizes. You will note that both coarse grinds are "variable" in
size of the output. In fact, even at the medium grind, you will begin to
see significant variations in the size of the output.

https://youtu.be/bgJ8E6e8rko

I don't know of any type of grinder that will give a uniform output size
when coarse grind is desired. It's a function of the bean and the grinder
and unless you are taking the grind all the way down to a fine grind, you
will never get completely consistent grind size.

I do find it interesting that they mention "uneven particle size" when
warning against blade grinders, yet their own images of the medium through
extra coarse grind show uneven particle sizes.

On Thursday, July 7, 2016 at 10:53:52 AM UTC-4, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Thursday, July 7, 2016 at 10:16:26 AM UTC-4, trader_4 wrote:
On Wednesday, July 6, 2016 at 9:23:55 PM UTC-4, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Wednesday, July 6, 2016 at 6:45:08 PM UTC-4, trader_4 wrote:
On Wednesday, July 6, 2016 at 5:12:55 PM UTC-4, notbob wrote:
On 2016-07-06, trader_4 wrote:

And what is that based on?

The fact I've forgotten more about coffee than you will ever know.

nb

Then explain to us how you extract evenly when you have one piece that's
half a bean and one piece that's a pinpoint. You won't extract much at
all from the half bean. Nuff said.

Nuff not said.

Coarse ground coffee, which is used in a french press and for cold
brewed coffee, is far from uniform.

https://www.babygizmo.com/wp-content...5/IMG_6480.jpg

How do you know that coffee was run through a burr grinder and not a
cheap blade type? No one said you can't make coffee from non-uniform
grind, only that it doesn't taste as good. Plenty of people buy a
can of cheap pre-ground coffee and think that tastes good too.

Do an image search on "coarse grind" and you will see that the images
are consistent, i.e. large variations in the resulting output size. Those
variations will occur with both a cheap blade grinder, a conical burr
grinder or a flat burr grinder. Each type of grinder may produce different
levels of variations, but a coarse grind will always result in a non-uniform
grind.


Nothing is perfectly uniform, no one said it was. And I would agree that
the variation is going to be more noticeable the coarser the grind. But
there is still a big difference between the output of a burr grinder
and a blade type, here are the pics I see:

https://d35hy9imunucut.cloudfront.ne...r-blade-00.jpg

http://static1.squarespace.com/stati...1443397289199/

http://www.coffeearea.org/wp-content...ee-grinder.jpg



For further proof, check out this video where they discuss burr grinders
and grind sizes. You will note that both coarse grinds are "variable" in
size of the output. In fact, even at the medium grind, you will begin to
see significant variations in the size of the output.

https://youtu.be/bgJ8E6e8rko

I don't know of any type of grinder that will give a uniform output size
when coarse grind is desired. It's a function of the bean and the grinder
and unless you are taking the grind all the way down to a fine grind, you
will never get completely consistent grind size.

I do find it interesting that they mention "uneven particle size" when
warning against blade grinders, yet their own images of the medium through
extra coarse grind show uneven particle sizes.

It's that the unevenness is worse with a blade grinder. Now, you can probably
find tests that shows it matters when brewing a cup of coffee that people
can tell the difference and ones where they can't. For the OP on a budget
a cheap blade grinder is probably fine or just grind the coffee at the store
and keep it sealed in the fridge.

trader_4
Wed, 06
Jul 2016 20:25:29 GMT in alt.home.repair, wrote:

On Wednesday, July 6, 2016 at 3:54:35 PM UTC-4, Diesel wrote:

If you can't grind it right, I'd just buy it at one of the stores
that have grinders there, grind it at the store, keep it in a
sealed container in the fridge.


If I'm going to go with ground coffee, I just use the machine in the
store to do it for me. I love the smell. Otherwise, I have normal
everyday coffee machines that are okay with Folgers/Maxwell house
branded coffee (I've tried 8oclock too). I like my coffee, but, i'm not
overboard with the 'perfect' cup.


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MID:
Hmmm. I most certainly don't understand how I can access a copy of a
zip file but then not be able to unzip it so I can watch it. That
seems VERY clever!
http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi?ID=145716711400

On 7/7/2016 5:35 PM, Diesel wrote:


If I'm going to go with ground coffee, I just use the machine in the
store to do it for me. I love the smell. Otherwise, I have normal
everyday coffee machines that are okay with Folgers/Maxwell house
branded coffee (I've tried 8oclock too). I like my coffee, but, i'm not
overboard with the 'perfect' cup.



Treat yourself sometime. Go to one of the better coffee sellers and try
a pound or two. You don't have to spend a lot of money to get a better
grade.
www.armeno.com https://www.lacolombe.com/pages/coffee

Most times I pau about $15 a pound but I've splurged one time and bought
my wife a half pound of a Panama coffee for $48, Wow, was it good.