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It seems that alt.home.repair has become a newsgroup to discuss
everything EXCEPT home repair topics.

Alt.home.repair *IS NOT* the place to post politics, gun control,
current events in the news, sexual preference issues, religion,
terrorism, personal attacks on others, and so on.....

There are newsgroups specific to these topics. for example, try
alt.politics.xxxxx alt.religion.xxxxx and so on.
A good catchall group for all of these topics is:
alt.current-events.usa

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Alt.home.repair *IS* a place to discuss all repairs and construction of
homes, garages, sheds, yard care, lawn mowers and other small engine
machines, tools, plumbing and electrical, and some automotive repair
issues.

*** LETS STAY ON TOPIC ***


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On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 11:22:28 -0400, "Kurt V. Ullman"
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Yeah, wander in here and talk to people that have been around here
literally for years how they should change their ways to suit you.
THAT's not gonna happen. Especially to the pussy that won't sign his or
her own name.

This clown nym-shifted twice in as many days. It is Home Guy, and
other names. Paintedcow was one recent example.

Bet a nickel he won't reply to me
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On Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 11:22:37 AM UTC-4, Kurt V. Ullman wrote:
On 6/15/16 9:36 AM, wrote:
It seems that alt.home.repair has become a newsgroup to discuss
everything EXCEPT home repair topics.

Alt.home.repair *IS NOT* the place to post politics, gun control,
current events in the news, sexual preference issues, religion,
terrorism, personal attacks on others, and so on.....

There are newsgroups specific to these topics. for example, try
alt.politics.xxxxx alt.religion.xxxxx and so on.
A good catchall group for all of these topics is:
alt.current-events.usa

---

Alt.home.repair *IS* a place to discuss all repairs and construction of
homes, garages, sheds, yard care, lawn mowers and other small engine
machines, tools, plumbing and electrical, and some automotive repair
issues.

*** LETS STAY ON TOPIC ***


Yeah, wander in here and talk to people that have been around here
literally for years how they should change their ways to suit you.
THAT's not gonna happen. Especially to the pussy that won't sign his or
her own name.

I've been "around here literally for years", actually "literally for decades".

I think you'd agree that the percentage of on-topic vs. off-topic threads
has seen a major reversal, especially most recently. I actually remember
a time when the off-topic stuff was few and far between the home repair
posts and not vice-versa like it is now.

I was extremely liberal in counting off-topic discussions in a.h.r, even
allowing automotive repair, cell phone backup programs, etc. to be considered
*on*-topic since they at least have something to do with "repair" - if you
really stretch the definition. A full 50% of the most recent 60 threads are
100% non-repair related.

You people who have been "around here literally for years": Think back, is
that what a.h.r looked like back in 80's and 90's? Not to my recollection.
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On 6/15/2016 10:52 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:

I've been "around here literally for years", actually "literally for decades".

I think you'd agree that the percentage of on-topic vs. off-topic threads
has seen a major reversal, especially most recently. I actually remember
a time when the off-topic stuff was few and far between the home repair
posts and not vice-versa like it is now.

You people who have been "around here literally for years": Think back, is
that what a.h.r looked like back in 80's and 90's? Not to my recollection.


The people who've been around here for decades are now getting up
there agewise. What we're seeing is the typical behavior of cranky old
farts who won't shut up and won't change the subject.

Tl;dr: "Grandpa's yelling again."
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On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 11:57:28 -0500, Moe DeLoughan
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On 6/15/2016 10:52 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:

I've been "around here literally for years", actually "literally for decades".

I think you'd agree that the percentage of on-topic vs. off-topic threads
has seen a major reversal, especially most recently. I actually remember
a time when the off-topic stuff was few and far between the home repair
posts and not vice-versa like it is now.

You people who have been "around here literally for years": Think back, is
that what a.h.r looked like back in 80's and 90's? Not to my recollection.


The people who've been around here for decades are now getting up
there agewise. What we're seeing is the typical behavior of cranky old
farts who won't shut up and won't change the subject.

Tl;dr: "Grandpa's yelling again."

Exactly.
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On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 08:52:56 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote:

Whiney stuff snipped

I've been "around here literally for years", actually "literally for decades".

I think you'd agree that the percentage of on-topic vs. off-topic threads
has seen a major reversal, especially most recently. I actually remember
a time when the off-topic stuff was few and far between the home repair
posts and not vice-versa like it is now.

I was extremely liberal in counting off-topic discussions in a.h.r, even
allowing automotive repair, cell phone backup programs, etc. to be considered
*on*-topic since they at least have something to do with "repair" - if you
really stretch the definition. A full 50% of the most recent 60 threads are
100% non-repair related.

You people who have been "around here literally for years": Think back, is
that what a.h.r looked like back in 80's and 90's? Not to my recollection.

When I think back our country isn't what it was 30 or 40 years ago either. That is truly a shame.
This group, not so much.
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Kurt V. Ullman posted for all of us...


Yeah, wander in here and talk to people that have been around here
literally for years how they should change their ways to suit you.
THAT's not gonna happen. Especially to the pussy that won't sign his or
her own name.


I resemble that remark. I have never denied it but my opinion is as valid as
yours.

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The people who've been around here for decades are now getting up there
agewise. What we're seeing is the typical behavior of cranky old farts
who won't shut up and won't change the subject.

Tl;dr: "Grandpa's yelling again."
How old is "up there agewise"? I think I might be one of them.
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Moe DeLoughan posted for all of us...



The people who've been around here for decades are now getting up
there agewise. What we're seeing is the typical behavior of cranky old
farts who won't shut up and won't change the subject.

Tl;dr: "Grandpa's yelling again."


That is correct, but we shared our knowledge freely. Now posters need a
porthole to go through. They want information handed on a silver platter to
them without doing any kind of basic research; which is MUCH easier today.
We had to crawl through and around the web to find answers which were
usually hosted at educational institutions at blazing speeds. If one needed
drivers, instructions you had to find a site that would host them. Present
posters don't even bother to look at the item packaging for the site. How
many times has "How do I mount an electrical outlet; ground up or down?" "I
only have two wires how do I get a ground?" on and on... I could do without
the politics and other distractions. Sometimes it's the only thread worth
following. I only come here when able usually not every day. I will then try
to read the original post and then the voluminous off-topic replies. If I do
reply then I am criticized for not keeping up. Users used to be lucky if the
hosts allowed six simultaneous connections. Busy signals and failed
connections were common.

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On Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 9:36:55 AM UTC-5, wrote:
It seems that alt.home.repair has become a newsgroup to discuss
everything EXCEPT home repair topics.

Alt.home.repair *IS NOT* the place to post politics, gun control,
current events in the news, sexual preference issues, religion,
terrorism, personal attacks on others, and so on.....

There are newsgroups specific to these topics. for example, try
alt.politics.xxxxx alt.religion.xxxxx and so on.
A good catchall group for all of these topics is:
alt.current-events.usa
---
Alt.home.repair *IS* a place to discuss all repairs and construction of
homes, garages, sheds, yard care, lawn mowers and other small engine
machines, tools, plumbing and electrical, and some automotive repair
issues.

*** LETS STAY ON TOPIC ***

alt.home.repair is like a bunch of guys hanging around the supply house or hardware store talking about everything. I wouldn't have it any other way. ^_^

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On 6/15/2016 8:23 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 9:36:55 AM UTC-5, wrote:
It seems that alt.home.repair has become a newsgroup to discuss
everything EXCEPT home repair topics.

Alt.home.repair *IS NOT* the place to post politics, gun control,
current events in the news, sexual preference issues, religion,
terrorism, personal attacks on others, and so on.....

There are newsgroups specific to these topics. for example, try
alt.politics.xxxxx alt.religion.xxxxx and so on.
A good catchall group for all of these topics is:
alt.current-events.usa
---
Alt.home.repair *IS* a place to discuss all repairs and construction of
homes, garages, sheds, yard care, lawn mowers and other small engine
machines, tools, plumbing and electrical, and some automotive repair
issues.

*** LETS STAY ON TOPIC ***

alt.home.repair is like a bunch of guys hanging around the supply house or hardware store talking about everything. I wouldn't have it any other way. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Yacking Monster


ahem ...

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DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 11:22:37 AM UTC-4, Kurt V.
Ullman
wrote:
On 6/15/16 9:36 AM, wrote:
It seems that alt.home.repair has become a newsgroup to
discuss
everything EXCEPT home repair topics.

Alt.home.repair *IS NOT* the place to post politics, gun
control,
current events in the news, sexual preference issues,
religion,
terrorism, personal attacks on others, and so on.....

There are newsgroups specific to these topics. for
example, try
alt.politics.xxxxx alt.religion.xxxxx and so on.
A good catchall group for all of these topics is:
alt.current-events.usa

---

Alt.home.repair *IS* a place to discuss all repairs and
construction of homes, garages, sheds, yard care, lawn
mowers and
other small engine machines, tools, plumbing and
electrical, and
some automotive repair issues.

*** LETS STAY ON TOPIC ***


Yeah, wander in here and talk to people that have been
around here
literally for years how they should change their ways to
suit you.
THAT's not gonna happen. Especially to the pussy that
won't sign his
or her own name.

I've been "around here literally for years", actually
"literally for
decades".

I think you'd agree that the percentage of on-topic vs.
off-topic
threads
has seen a major reversal, especially most recently. I
actually
remember
a time when the off-topic stuff was few and far between
the home
repair
posts and not vice-versa like it is now.

I was extremely liberal in counting off-topic discussions
in a.h.r,
even allowing automotive repair, cell phone backup
programs, etc. to
be considered *on*-topic since they at least have
something to do
with "repair" - if you really stretch the definition. A
full 50% of
the most recent 60 threads are 100% non-repair related.

You people who have been "around here literally for
years": Think
back, is that what a.h.r looked like back in 80's and
90's? Not to my
recollection.

I agree there is more drift and OT, but that is because of
the likes of burky and btj and their ilk that have drifted
here. As far as the OT from regulars, I'd say its about the
same. Very few if any questions don't get answered. Then
there is whoreshub and the fact that USENET is dying. I
remember the days when it was very very active, most if not
all binary groups are trashed and the rest are slowly being
destroyed by the likes of burky and all other nymshifting
losers. This and rec woodworking are the exception to the
other ngroups that I use to read. YMMV



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| It seems that alt.home.repair has become a newsgroup to discuss
| everything EXCEPT home repair topics.
|

Thank you for your efforts, but as you can see from
the responses, there's little civility or even common
sense to be found. And it's getting worse. Old men,
acting like children who need a diaper. But there's no
one in charge and they seem to have not been raised
with the basic ideas of courtesy and consideration for
others. So it's a case of pearls before swine.

I regularly consider just dropping this group altogether.
As it is I'm blocking a number of regular posters. (Not
even "trolls". Regulars!) Yet I still see more nonsense than
discussion. I stick around only because I might be able
to offer useful help to the occasional person who happens
by with a real question.



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On 6/15/2016 6:23 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 9:36:55 AM UTC-5, wrote:
It seems that alt.home.repair has become a newsgroup to discuss
everything EXCEPT home repair topics.

Alt.home.repair *IS NOT* the place to post politics, gun control,
current events in the news, sexual preference issues, religion,
terrorism, personal attacks on others, and so on.....

There are newsgroups specific to these topics. for example, try
alt.politics.xxxxx alt.religion.xxxxx and so on.
A good catchall group for all of these topics is:
alt.current-events.usa
---
Alt.home.repair *IS* a place to discuss all repairs and construction of
homes, garages, sheds, yard care, lawn mowers and other small engine
machines, tools, plumbing and electrical, and some automotive repair
issues.

*** LETS STAY ON TOPIC ***

alt.home.repair is like a bunch of guys hanging around the supply house or hardware store talking about everything. I wouldn't have it any other way. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Yacking Monster


Do you want some K-Y Jelly with that dildo, Uncle Monsterbater?
LOL

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+1

Instead of whining, is it too difficult for you to ignore the posts you
don't like?


. . .Or start a thread that you consider appropriate to the group's
charter? A lack of activity seems to "invite" OT posts in this and
other groups. Still, "Delete" keys are on your keyboard for a reason.g



.. lack of activity does not invite off-topic crap ..
- quite the reverse.
John T.

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On Thursday, June 16, 2016 at 12:55:14 AM UTC-4, ChairMan wrote:
DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 11:22:37 AM UTC-4, Kurt V.
Ullman
wrote:
On 6/15/16 9:36 AM, wrote:
It seems that alt.home.repair has become a newsgroup to
discuss
everything EXCEPT home repair topics.

Alt.home.repair *IS NOT* the place to post politics, gun
control,
current events in the news, sexual preference issues,
religion,
terrorism, personal attacks on others, and so on.....

There are newsgroups specific to these topics. for
example, try
alt.politics.xxxxx alt.religion.xxxxx and so on.
A good catchall group for all of these topics is:
alt.current-events.usa

---

Alt.home.repair *IS* a place to discuss all repairs and
construction of homes, garages, sheds, yard care, lawn
mowers and
other small engine machines, tools, plumbing and
electrical, and
some automotive repair issues.

*** LETS STAY ON TOPIC ***


Yeah, wander in here and talk to people that have been
around here
literally for years how they should change their ways to
suit you.
THAT's not gonna happen. Especially to the pussy that
won't sign his
or her own name.

I've been "around here literally for years", actually
"literally for
decades".

I think you'd agree that the percentage of on-topic vs.
off-topic
threads
has seen a major reversal, especially most recently. I
actually
remember
a time when the off-topic stuff was few and far between
the home
repair
posts and not vice-versa like it is now.

I was extremely liberal in counting off-topic discussions
in a.h.r,
even allowing automotive repair, cell phone backup
programs, etc. to
be considered *on*-topic since they at least have
something to do
with "repair" - if you really stretch the definition. A
full 50% of
the most recent 60 threads are 100% non-repair related.

You people who have been "around here literally for
years": Think
back, is that what a.h.r looked like back in 80's and
90's? Not to my
recollection.

I agree there is more drift and OT, but that is because of
the likes of burky and btj and their ilk that have drifted
here. As far as the OT from regulars, I'd say its about the
same. Very few if any questions don't get answered. Then
there is whoreshub and the fact that USENET is dying. I
remember the days when it was very very active, most if not
all binary groups are trashed and the rest are slowly being
destroyed by the likes of burky and all other nymshifting
losers. This and rec woodworking are the exception to the
other ngroups that I use to read. YMMV

+1

One could argue that if all the OT stuff was gone, the whole
newsgroup might go the way of all those other newsgroups.
And like you say, the recent acceleration in OT mostly political posts,
is from a few posters, who have only more recently shown up.
They post multiple political OT posts every day.
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On 6/16/2016 7:06 AM, Mayayana wrote:
| It seems that alt.home.repair has become a newsgroup to discuss
| everything EXCEPT home repair topics.
|

Thank you for your efforts, but as you can see from
the responses, there's little civility or even common
sense to be found. And it's getting worse. Old men,
acting like children who need a diaper. But there's no
one in charge and they seem to have not been raised
with the basic ideas of courtesy and consideration for
others. So it's a case of pearls before swine.

I regularly consider just dropping this group altogether.
As it is I'm blocking a number of regular posters. (Not
even "trolls". Regulars!) Yet I still see more nonsense than
discussion. I stick around only because I might be able
to offer useful help to the occasional person who happens
by with a real question.

I gave up.
Have you found a good alternative?



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On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 23:24:59 -0500, Muggles wrote:

On 6/15/2016 8:23 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 9:36:55 AM UTC-5, wrote:
It seems that alt.home.repair has become a newsgroup to discuss
everything EXCEPT home repair topics.

Alt.home.repair *IS NOT* the place to post politics, gun control,
current events in the news, sexual preference issues, religion,
terrorism, personal attacks on others, and so on.....

There are newsgroups specific to these topics. for example, try
alt.politics.xxxxx alt.religion.xxxxx and so on.
A good catchall group for all of these topics is:
alt.current-events.usa
---
Alt.home.repair *IS* a place to discuss all repairs and construction of
homes, garages, sheds, yard care, lawn mowers and other small engine
machines, tools, plumbing and electrical, and some automotive repair
issues.

*** LETS STAY ON TOPIC ***

alt.home.repair is like a bunch of guys hanging around the supply house or hardware store talking about everything. I wouldn't have it any other way. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Yacking Monster


ahem ...

....and gals.
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On Thu, 16 Jun 2016 09:06:01 -0400, "Mayayana" wrote:

Thank you for your efforts, but as you can see from
the responses, there's little civility or even common
sense to be found. And it's getting worse. Old men,
acting like children who need a diaper. But there's no
one in charge and they seem to have not been raised
with the basic ideas of courtesy and consideration for
others. So it's a case of pearls before swine.

That is an apt description of our idiot-in-chief.

I regularly consider just dropping this group altogether.
As it is I'm blocking a number of regular posters. (Not
even "trolls". Regulars!) Yet I still see more nonsense than
discussion.

You're breaking my heart.

I stick around only because I might be able
to offer useful help to the occasional person who happens
by with a real question.

Don't flatter yourself.
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On 6/16/2016 12:14 PM, Gordon Shumway wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 23:24:59 -0500, Muggles wrote:

On 6/15/2016 8:23 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 9:36:55 AM UTC-5, wrote:
It seems that alt.home.repair has become a newsgroup to discuss
everything EXCEPT home repair topics.

Alt.home.repair *IS NOT* the place to post politics, gun control,
current events in the news, sexual preference issues, religion,
terrorism, personal attacks on others, and so on.....

There are newsgroups specific to these topics. for example, try
alt.politics.xxxxx alt.religion.xxxxx and so on.
A good catchall group for all of these topics is:
alt.current-events.usa
---
Alt.home.repair *IS* a place to discuss all repairs and construction of
homes, garages, sheds, yard care, lawn mowers and other small engine
machines, tools, plumbing and electrical, and some automotive repair
issues.

*** LETS STAY ON TOPIC ***

alt.home.repair is like a bunch of guys hanging around the supply house or hardware store talking about everything. I wouldn't have it any other way. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Yacking Monster


ahem ...

...and gals.

Dittos
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On 6/16/2016 9:06 AM, Mayayana wrote:
| It seems that alt.home.repair has become a newsgroup to discuss
| everything EXCEPT home repair topics.
|

Thank you for your efforts, but as you can see from
the responses, there's little civility or even common
sense to be found. And it's getting worse. Old men,
acting like children who need a diaper. But there's no
one in charge and they seem to have not been raised
with the basic ideas of courtesy and consideration for
others. So it's a case of pearls before swine.

I regularly consider just dropping this group altogether.
As it is I'm blocking a number of regular posters. (Not
even "trolls". Regulars!) Yet I still see more nonsense than
discussion. I stick around only because I might be able
to offer useful help to the occasional person who happens
by with a real question.



I stick around. I am an old man and enjoy the postings of other old
men. Some day, you will be old too.
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On Thu, 16 Jun 2016 13:51:47 -0400, Frank "frank wrote:

I stick around. I am an old man and enjoy the postings of other old
men. Some day, you will be old too.


Three Old Men

Three old men are talking about their aches, pains and bodily
functions.

The 70 year old man says, "I have this problem. I wake up every
morning at seven and it takes me twenty minutes to pee."

The 80 year old man says, "My case is worse. I get up at eight and I
sit there and grunt and groan for half an hour before I finally have a
bowel movement."

The 90 year old man says, "At seven I pee like a horse, and at eight I
crap like a cow."

So what's your problem?" ask the others.

"I don't wake up until nine!"
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| Have you found a good alternative?
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Alternative home repair group? No. Unfortunately,
few people seem to know, these days, that this
resource is even here. I have come across contractor
chat when doing searches, but those are somewhat
specialized and require becoming a "member".


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On 6/16/2016 11:14 AM, Gordon Shumway wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 23:24:59 -0500, Muggles wrote:

On 6/15/2016 8:23 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Wednesday, June 15, 2016 at 9:36:55 AM UTC-5, wrote:
It seems that alt.home.repair has become a newsgroup to discuss
everything EXCEPT home repair topics.

Alt.home.repair *IS NOT* the place to post politics, gun control,
current events in the news, sexual preference issues, religion,
terrorism, personal attacks on others, and so on.....

There are newsgroups specific to these topics. for example, try
alt.politics.xxxxx alt.religion.xxxxx and so on.
A good catchall group for all of these topics is:
alt.current-events.usa
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Alt.home.repair *IS* a place to discuss all repairs and construction of
homes, garages, sheds, yard care, lawn mowers and other small engine
machines, tools, plumbing and electrical, and some automotive repair
issues.

*** LETS STAY ON TOPIC ***

alt.home.repair is like a bunch of guys hanging around the supply house or hardware store talking about everything. I wouldn't have it any other way. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Yacking Monster


ahem ...

...and gals.


{smile} I like hardware stores, too! Or, I should probably say I had to
learn to like them because the men in my family spent a lot of time
there, me being with them when they wanted to stop there meant I spent a
lot of time there, too.

I guess it helped because now all my projects I do are because of
everything I learned while tagging along.

--
Maggie
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On 06/16/2016 06:05 PM, Mayayana wrote:
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| Have you found a good alternative?
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Alternative home repair group? No. Unfortunately,
few people seem to know, these days, that this
resource is even here. I have come across contractor
chat when doing searches, but those are somewhat
specialized and require becoming a "member".

I have used doityourself.com/forum in the past with decent results.
Gardenweb has come up in searches I have done in the past with some good
information. For plumbing you can't beat terrylove.com, and for tile
work I recommend johnbridge.com.

Jon





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Have you found a good alternative?


I have used doityourself.com/forum in the past with decent results.
Gardenweb has come up in searches I have done in the past with some good
information. For plumbing you can't beat terrylove.com, and for tile
work I recommend johnbridge.com.
Jon




At times, I have searched & found some useful forums that are not
usenet - so they require an email address to sign up.
auto eg : Kia ; Ford Taurus.
Also - I have a few Yahoo Groups that have been useful
- very specific topics -
eg : Elna sewing machines ; Necchi sewing machines ;
WheelHorse garden tractors.
Appliance repair is another topic I have searched & used.
John T.

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On 06/16/2016 06:05 PM, Mayayana wrote:
| I gave up.
| Have you found a good alternative?
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Alternative home repair group? No. Unfortunately,
few people seem to know, these days, that this
resource is even here. I have come across contractor
chat when doing searches, but those are somewhat
specialized and require becoming a "member".

I have been online for 20 years and alt.home.repair is the best home repair forum I have found bar none. No commercials. Real people with good advice and who actually know what they are talking about. Block the spammers and goofys. MUCH help here from people who have done things, rather than those who guess at something. There are good online forums, too, but this is where I always start. Very happy to stay here myself.

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