I need 14 BRASS Carriage Bolts, 1/4" diameter, 1.5 in long, with brass
nuts. These are for an outdoor patio bench. Steel will rust, so I want
brass (which is what the bench originally had). The local hardware
stores dont carry brass bolts.

Anyone know anywhere that will sell a small amount of them? I'm sure
they are costly, so I dont want to buy a whole case of them.
I need 14 of each, but will probably buy 20 of them.

If I cant find brass, I'd opt for stainless steel, but they are not
available locally either.

On 05/08/2016 10:49 PM, wrote:
I need 14 BRASS Carriage Bolts, 1/4" diameter, 1.5 in long, with brass
nuts. These are for an outdoor patio bench. Steel will rust, so I want
brass (which is what the bench originally had). The local hardware
stores dont carry brass bolts.

Anyone know anywhere that will sell a small amount of them? I'm sure
they are costly, so I dont want to buy a whole case of them.
I need 14 of each, but will probably buy 20 of them.

If I cant find brass, I'd opt for stainless steel, but they are not
available locally either.


amazon.com

mscdirect.com

mcmaster.com

fastenal.com

On Mon, 09 May 2016 03:20:03 -0500, Hildabeast wrote:

On 05/08/2016 10:49 PM, wrote:
I need 14 BRASS Carriage Bolts, 1/4" diameter, 1.5 in long, with brass
nuts. These are for an outdoor patio bench. Steel will rust, so I want
brass (which is what the bench originally had). The local hardware
stores dont carry brass bolts.

Anyone know anywhere that will sell a small amount of them? I'm sure
they are costly, so I dont want to buy a whole case of them.
I need 14 of each, but will probably buy 20 of them.

If I cant find brass, I'd opt for stainless steel, but they are not
available locally either.


amazon.com

mscdirect.com

mcmaster.com

fastenal.com

Possibly Ace Hardware.


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On Mon, 09 May 2016 00:49:45 -0400, wrote:

I need 14 BRASS Carriage Bolts, 1/4" diameter, 1.5 in long, with brass
nuts. These are for an outdoor patio bench. Steel will rust, so I want
brass (which is what the bench originally had). The local hardware
stores dont carry brass bolts.

Anyone know anywhere that will sell a small amount of them? I'm sure
they are costly, so I dont want to buy a whole case of them.
I need 14 of each, but will probably buy 20 of them.

If I cant find brass, I'd opt for stainless steel, but they are not
available locally either.


Just one example... over $ 2. per bolt ! 64 cents per nut ?
Huh. I hope I'm resading that wrong.

http://tinyurl.com/h4e3nkc

.... and why wouldn't Fastenal's web page provide a link to the
1/4 20 brass nut that goes with this ? instead of stainless ..
Duh .

http://tinyurl.com/jca6n7g

John T

wrote:
I need 14 BRASS Carriage Bolts, 1/4" diameter, 1.5 in long, with brass
nuts. These are for an outdoor patio bench. Steel will rust, so I want
brass (which is what the bench originally had). The local hardware
stores dont carry brass bolts.

Anyone know anywhere that will sell a small amount of them? I'm sure
they are costly, so I dont want to buy a whole case of them.
I need 14 of each, but will probably buy 20 of them.

If I cant find brass, I'd opt for stainless steel, but they are not
available locally either.

I would suggest bronze instead of brass. Stronger, would be about the same
price.

I need 14 BRASS Carriage Bolts, 1/4" diameter, 1.5 in long, with brass
nuts. These are for an outdoor patio bench. Steel will rust, so I want
brass (which is what the bench originally had). The local hardware
stores dont carry brass bolts.

Anyone know anywhere that will sell a small amount of them? I'm sure
they are costly, so I dont want to buy a whole case of them.
I need 14 of each, but will probably buy 20 of them.

If I cant find brass, I'd opt for stainless steel, but they are not
available locally either.


I would suggest bronze instead of brass. Stronger, would be about the same
price.



Where would a person find carriage bolts & nuts, or other fasteners,
made of solid bronze ? not bronze coloured finish
John T.

On 05/09/2016 06:16 AM, wrote:
Where would a person find carriage bolts & nuts, or other fasteners,
made of solid bronze ? not bronze coloured finish

A marine supply if there is one in your area. They won't be cheap and if
you see the word 'yacht' that will cost you even more.

On 05/08/2016 10:49 PM, wrote:
If I cant find brass, I'd opt for stainless steel, but they are not
available locally either.


What sort of backwoods community do you live in? Brass would be a
stretch but Ace and a couple of other stores in town have a range of
stainless fasteners.

On Mon, 9 May 2016 07:34:51 -0400, "dadiOH"
wrote:

wrote:
I need 14 BRASS Carriage Bolts, 1/4" diameter, 1.5 in long, with brass
nuts. These are for an outdoor patio bench. Steel will rust, so I want
brass (which is what the bench originally had). The local hardware
stores dont carry brass bolts.

Anyone know anywhere that will sell a small amount of them? I'm sure
they are costly, so I dont want to buy a whole case of them.
I need 14 of each, but will probably buy 20 of them.

If I cant find brass, I'd opt for stainless steel, but they are not
available locally either.

I would suggest bronze instead of brass. Stronger, would be about the same
price.

Where are you located? I have a local source for stainless in inch and
metric, as well as brass in metric
Call SpaeNaur Fasteners at 1-800-265-8772

stainless n1/4X1 1/2 is part # 014-804
Unit package is 100 but I've never had a problem buying even in
onzies-twozies.
Brass metric m6x40mm(1.57 inch) is 015-502

They will ship out of Kitchener Ontario.

wrote:
I need 14 BRASS Carriage Bolts, 1/4" diameter, 1.5 in long, with
brass nuts. These are for an outdoor patio bench. Steel will rust,
so I want brass (which is what the bench originally had). The local
hardware stores dont carry brass bolts.

Anyone know anywhere that will sell a small amount of them? I'm sure
they are costly, so I dont want to buy a whole case of them.
I need 14 of each, but will probably buy 20 of them.

If I cant find brass, I'd opt for stainless steel, but they are not
available locally either.


I would suggest bronze instead of brass. Stronger, would be about
the same price.



Where would a person find carriage bolts & nuts, or other fasteners,
made of solid bronze ? not bronze coloured finish
John T.

Pretty much any place that specializes in fasteners. Here's one. Hex head
is cheaper.

https://www.boltdepot.com/Carriage_b...olts.aspx?nv=l

On 5/9/16 12:49 AM, wrote:
I need 14 BRASS Carriage Bolts, 1/4" diameter, 1.5 in long, with brass
nuts. These are for an outdoor patio bench. Steel will rust, so I want
brass (which is what the bench originally had). The local hardware
stores dont carry brass bolts.

Anyone know anywhere that will sell a small amount of them? I'm sure
they are costly, so I dont want to buy a whole case of them.
I need 14 of each, but will probably buy 20 of them.

If I cant find brass, I'd opt for stainless steel, but they are not
available locally either.



http://www.mcmaster.com/#carriage-an...bolts/=12c4yno
pkg of 10 $ 10.29 bronze 1/4-20

http://www.mcmaster.com/#machine-screw-nuts/=12c4zq6
pkg of 25 $8.36 bronze square 1/4-20

they have SS also if you prefer

On Mon, 09 May 2016 05:24:58 -0500, "Dean Hoffman"
wrote:

On Mon, 09 May 2016 03:20:03 -0500, Hildabeast wrote:

On 05/08/2016 10:49 PM, wrote:
I need 14 BRASS Carriage Bolts, 1/4" diameter, 1.5 in long, with brass
nuts. These are for an outdoor patio bench. Steel will rust, so I want
brass (which is what the bench originally had). The local hardware
stores dont carry brass bolts.

Anyone know anywhere that will sell a small amount of them? I'm sure
they are costly, so I dont want to buy a whole case of them.
I need 14 of each, but will probably buy 20 of them.

If I cant find brass, I'd opt for stainless steel, but they are not
available locally either.

I have 3 places within 3 miles of my house. Ace Hardware, Home Depot,
and Lowe's all have large fastener aisles. They have zinc, stainless,
and brass. Of course, the stainless and brass cost more but I am
impressed by their large selection.

On 2016-05-09, Pat wrote:

Ace Hardware, Home Depot, and Lowe's all have large fastener
aisles. They have zinc, stainless, and brass. Of course, the
stainless and brass cost more but I am impressed by their large
selection.

There are like aisles in True Value Hardware stores. Also Tractor
Supply Co stores and a Rocky Mtn states chain, Murdoch's Ranch & Home
Supply.

nb

Where would a person find carriage bolts & nuts, or other fasteners,
made of solid bronze ? not bronze coloured finish
John T.



Pretty much any place that specializes in fasteners. Here's one. Hex head
is cheaper.

https://www.boltdepot.com/Carriage_b...olts.aspx?nv=l



Thanks -
... so "silicon bronze" will normally refer to solid material ?
as opposed to "bronze finish" or somesuch wording
which commonly refers to the colour of the coating.
John T.

wrote:
Where would a person find carriage bolts & nuts, or other
fasteners, made of solid bronze ? not bronze coloured finish
John T.



Pretty much any place that specializes in fasteners. Here's one.
Hex head is cheaper.

https://www.boltdepot.com/Carriage_b...olts.aspx?nv=l



Thanks -
.. so "silicon bronze" will normally refer to solid material ?
as opposed to "bronze finish" or somesuch wording
which commonly refers to the colour of the coating.
John T.


Right. "Bronze finish" means (afaik) electroplated. Just like "galvanized"
has come to mean electroplated with zinc which isn't even CLOSE to
galvanizing by dipping in molten zinc.

BTW, there are numerous bronzes - just as there are numerous stainless
steels - but the only ones we are likely to encounter are silicon bronze and
manganese bronze.

On Mon, 09 May 2016 07:10:54 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 09 May 2016 00:49:45 -0400, wrote:

I need 14 BRASS Carriage Bolts, 1/4" diameter, 1.5 in long, with brass
nuts. These are for an outdoor patio bench. Steel will rust, so I want
brass (which is what the bench originally had). The local hardware
stores dont carry brass bolts.

Anyone know anywhere that will sell a small amount of them? I'm sure
they are costly, so I dont want to buy a whole case of them.
I need 14 of each, but will probably buy 20 of them.

If I cant find brass, I'd opt for stainless steel, but they are not
available locally either.


Just one example... over $ 2. per bolt ! 64 cents per nut ?
Huh. I hope I'm resading that wrong.

http://tinyurl.com/h4e3nkc

... and why wouldn't Fastenal's web page provide a link to the
1/4 20 brass nut that goes with this ? instead of stainless ..
Duh .

http://tinyurl.com/jca6n7g

John T



I called Fastenal today. The local store did not have the brass carriage
bolts at their store, but could get them from another store in 3 to 4
days. But could not get 1.5 inch, but could get 2 inch. (that would
work). Then they told me the price. $3.87 for EACH bolt. $0.29 for each
nut. Total price for 15 of each, $62.40 PLUS SHIPPING, (or I can pick
them up at the store).

I didn't even ask the shipping price, I just said that's too expensive,
I'm not interested. I hung up the phone.

ACTUALLY, THAT'S FRIKKING ROBBERY !!!

I went to a nearby larger city. True Value hardware had 1.5" x 1/4"
carriage bolts in Stainless Steel for $0.79 each, the nuts were 18 cents
each. I really did not need 15 of them, since several of the old ones
are fine. I bought what I really needed and one spare one. Total cost,
about $8.

On 5/9/2016 11:11 PM, wrote:

I called Fastenal today. The local store did not have the brass carriage
bolts at their store, but could get them from another store in 3 to 4
days. But could not get 1.5 inch, but could get 2 inch. (that would
work). Then they told me the price. $3.87 for EACH bolt. $0.29 for each
nut. Total price for 15 of each, $62.40 PLUS SHIPPING, (or I can pick
them up at the store).

I didn't even ask the shipping price, I just said that's too expensive,
I'm not interested. I hung up the phone.

ACTUALLY, THAT'S FRIKKING ROBBERY !!!

Not really. They sell very few brass carriage bolts. The time of setup
for a small run, a more expensive material, and they the cost of having
it sit in inventory are all factors.

No different in my line of work. Want to buy one non stock part? $500
and I'm breaking even. Want to buy five thousand of them? 50 cents each.

On 5/9/2016 11:11 PM, wrote:
I called Fastenal today. The local store did not have the brass carriage
bolts at their store, but could get them from another store in 3 to 4
days. But could not get 1.5 inch, but could get 2 inch. (that would
work). Then they told me the price. $3.87 for EACH bolt. $0.29 for each
nut. Total price for 15 of each, $62.40 PLUS SHIPPING, (or I can pick
them up at the store).

I didn't even ask the shipping price, I just said that's too expensive,
I'm not interested. I hung up the phone.

ACTUALLY, THAT'S FRIKKING ROBBERY !!!

I went to a nearby larger city. True Value hardware had 1.5" x 1/4"
carriage bolts in Stainless Steel for $0.79 each, the nuts were 18 cents
each. I really did not need 15 of them, since several of the old ones
are fine. I bought what I really needed and one spare one. Total cost,
about $8.


Brass would have been nice. I'm pleased you
got your project without spending all that
huge pile of money. And, thanks for the
follow up. Some times I wonder if folks are
doing OK.

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On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 1:50:08 AM UTC-4, wrote:
I need 14 BRASS Carriage Bolts, 1/4" diameter, 1.5 in long, with brass
nuts. These are for an outdoor patio bench. Steel will rust, so I want
brass (which is what the bench originally had). The local hardware
stores dont carry brass bolts.

Anyone know anywhere that will sell a small amount of them? I'm sure
they are costly, so I dont want to buy a whole case of them.
I need 14 of each, but will probably buy 20 of them.

If I cant find brass, I'd opt for stainless steel, but they are not
available locally either.

You could probably shorten some bronze toilet base bolts for that. The head is sort of like a carriage bolt. Lowes and Home Depot should have stainless steel and galvanized choices, both of which are probably suitable for your project.

On Tue, 10 May 2016 07:57:19 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 1:50:08 AM UTC-4, wrote:
I need 14 BRASS Carriage Bolts, 1/4" diameter, 1.5 in long, with brass
nuts. These are for an outdoor patio bench. Steel will rust, so I want
brass (which is what the bench originally had). The local hardware
stores dont carry brass bolts.

Anyone know anywhere that will sell a small amount of them? I'm sure
they are costly, so I dont want to buy a whole case of them.
I need 14 of each, but will probably buy 20 of them.

If I cant find brass, I'd opt for stainless steel, but they are not
available locally either.

You could probably shorten some bronze toilet base bolts for that. The head is sort of like a carriage bolt. Lowes and Home Depot should have stainless steel and galvanized choices, both of which are probably suitable for your project.
And more expensive than the actual carriage bolt - at least around
here. (and most often 5/16"?) as well as having ugly oval heads.