**Looking for some insight/suggestions to address a problem concerning my
propane gas heat and glo fireplace that has a pilot light assembly with
both the thermocouple and thermopile. On on the recommendation for my
technician i replaced my whole pilot light assembly due to a pilot light
flame and thermopile issue. My problem lies with the flame decreasing when
I switch from the pilot mode to the on position. In pilot mode the pilot
lights up with no problem and a very strong flame which engulfs both the
thermocouple, as well as, the thermopile. As i m,ove it over to the on
position the flame starts to decrease. I can move the knob slowly towards
the on position enough for the main burner to engage, but if I move it
over enough to fully open up the main valve, the flame no longer covers
the thermocouple and/or thermopile enought to keep the millivolts needed
to properly run the main valve. the reult is a clicking sound and suht off
of the whole system. Also, I notice that the control valve for the main
burner which regulates the flame itself has no impact on the intensity of
the flame. Since it is a brand new pilot light assembly and the millivolts
from thr termopile are strong, I believe the problem lie in the gas valve
itself. Wall switch checks out fine and all the connections seem to be in
order. Any insight would be welcomed. Thanks, Tom

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Gunner wrote:
**Looking for some insight/suggestions to address a problem concerning my
propane gas heat and glo fireplace that has a pilot light assembly with
both the thermocouple and thermopile. On on the recommendation for my
technician i replaced my whole pilot light assembly due to a pilot light
flame and thermopile issue. My problem lies with the flame decreasing when
I switch from the pilot mode to the on position. In pilot mode the pilot
lights up with no problem and a very strong flame which engulfs both the
thermocouple, as well as, the thermopile. As i m,ove it over to the on
position the flame starts to decrease. I can move the knob slowly towards
the on position enough for the main burner to engage, but if I move it
over enough to fully open up the main valve, the flame no longer covers
the thermocouple and/or thermopile enought to keep the millivolts needed
to properly run the main valve. the reult is a clicking sound and suht off
of the whole system. Also, I notice that the control valve for the main
burner which regulates the flame itself has no impact on the intensity of
the flame. Since it is a brand new pilot light assembly and the millivolts
from thr termopile are strong, I believe the problem lie in the gas valve
itself. Wall switch checks out fine and all the connections seem to be in
order. Any insight would be welcomed. Thanks, Tom

Pressure OK? Pilot flame size should not change in size always.

On 01/28/2016 09:44 AM, Gunner wrote:
**Looking for some insight/suggestions to address a problem concerning my
propane gas heat and glo fireplace that has a pilot light assembly with
both the thermocouple and thermopile. On on the recommendation for my
technician i replaced my whole pilot light assembly due to a pilot light
flame and thermopile issue. My problem lies with the flame decreasing when
I switch from the pilot mode to the on position. In pilot mode the pilot
lights up with no problem and a very strong flame which engulfs both the
thermocouple, as well as, the thermopile. As i m,ove it over to the on
position the flame starts to decrease. I can move the knob slowly towards
the on position enough for the main burner to engage, but if I move it
over enough to fully open up the main valve, the flame no longer covers
the thermocouple and/or thermopile enought to keep the millivolts needed
to properly run the main valve. the reult is a clicking sound and suht off
of the whole system. Also, I notice that the control valve for the main
burner which regulates the flame itself has no impact on the intensity of
the flame.


snip


Obviously not right and since this is a combustion device unless you are
positively 100% sure of what you are doing, I'd just have the tech fix it

On Thursday, January 28, 2016 at 10:44:06 AM UTC-5, Gunner wrote:
**Looking for some insight/suggestions to address a problem concerning my
propane gas heat and glo fireplace that has a pilot light assembly with
both the thermocouple and thermopile. On on the recommendation for my
technician i replaced my whole pilot light assembly due to a pilot light
flame and thermopile issue. My problem lies with the flame decreasing when
I switch from the pilot mode to the on position. In pilot mode the pilot
lights up with no problem and a very strong flame which engulfs both the
thermocouple, as well as, the thermopile. As i m,ove it over to the on
position the flame starts to decrease. I can move the knob slowly towards
the on position enough for the main burner to engage, but if I move it
over enough to fully open up the main valve, the flame no longer covers
the thermocouple and/or thermopile enought to keep the millivolts needed
to properly run the main valve. the reult is a clicking sound and suht off
of the whole system. Also, I notice that the control valve for the main
burner which regulates the flame itself has no impact on the intensity of
the flame. Since it is a brand new pilot light assembly and the millivolts
from thr termopile are strong, I believe the problem lie in the gas valve
itself. Wall switch checks out fine and all the connections seem to be in
order. Any insight would be welcomed. Thanks, Tom

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Sounds like either a problem with the gas valve not flowing sufficient
gas to the pilot or an obstruction in the path between valve and
pilot light.

philo wrote:
On 01/28/2016 09:44 AM, Gunner wrote:
**Looking for some insight/suggestions to address a problem concerning my
propane gas heat and glo fireplace that has a pilot light assembly with
both the thermocouple and thermopile. On on the recommendation for my
technician i replaced my whole pilot light assembly due to a pilot light
flame and thermopile issue. My problem lies with the flame decreasing
when
I switch from the pilot mode to the on position. In pilot mode the pilot
lights up with no problem and a very strong flame which engulfs both the
thermocouple, as well as, the thermopile. As i m,ove it over to the on
position the flame starts to decrease. I can move the knob slowly towards
the on position enough for the main burner to engage, but if I move it
over enough to fully open up the main valve, the flame no longer covers
the thermocouple and/or thermopile enought to keep the millivolts needed
to properly run the main valve. the reult is a clicking sound and suht
off
of the whole system. Also, I notice that the control valve for the main
burner which regulates the flame itself has no impact on the intensity of
the flame.


snip


Obviously not right and since this is a combustion device unless you are
positively 100% sure of what you are doing, I'd just have the tech fix it

I'd check the gas pressure. I believe Propane has winter grade one and
summer grade one. As an example if you try to use BBQ now using propane
tank filled in summer, it does not work well.

philo wrote:
On 01/28/2016 09:44 AM, Gunner wrote:
**Looking for some insight/suggestions to address a problem concerning my
propane gas heat and glo fireplace that has a pilot light assembly with
both the thermocouple and thermopile. On on the recommendation for my
technician i replaced my whole pilot light assembly due to a pilot light
flame and thermopile issue. My problem lies with the flame decreasing
when
I switch from the pilot mode to the on position. In pilot mode the pilot
lights up with no problem and a very strong flame which engulfs both the
thermocouple, as well as, the thermopile. As i m,ove it over to the on
position the flame starts to decrease. I can move the knob slowly towards
the on position enough for the main burner to engage, but if I move it
over enough to fully open up the main valve, the flame no longer covers
the thermocouple and/or thermopile enought to keep the millivolts needed
to properly run the main valve. the reult is a clicking sound and suht
off
of the whole system. Also, I notice that the control valve for the main
burner which regulates the flame itself has no impact on the intensity of
the flame.


snip


Obviously not right and since this is a combustion device unless you are
positively 100% sure of what you are doing, I'd just have the tech fix it

Is this "I know more than you contest" or trying to help with OP's
question. There are many freeware photo editors out there as well every
new digital camera comes with something. Photo element is easier to
use for beginner.

On 01/28/2016 12:44 PM, Tony Hwang wrote:
philo wrote:
On 01/28/2016 09:44 AM, Gunner wrote:
**Looking for some insight/suggestions to address a problem
concerning my
propane gas heat and glo fireplace that has a pilot light assembly with
both the thermocouple and thermopile. On on the recommendation for my
technician i replaced my whole pilot light assembly due to a pilot light
flame and thermopile issue. My problem lies with the flame decreasing
when
are doing, I'd just have the tech fix it

Is this "I know more than you contest" or trying to help with OP's
question. There are many freeware photo editors out there as well every
new digital camera comes with something. Photo element is easier to
use for beginner.



You are in the wrong thread...a gas fireplace has nothing to do with my
answer concerning photography

replying to Tony Hwang , Gunner wrote:
dragon40 wrote:

Pressure OK? Pilot flame size should not change in size always.



was unable to check pressure due to lack of proper instrument, could it be
the regulator on my propane tank is not working properly, or is it more
likely a bad control valve since I am unable to increase the flame from
the main control valve knob?

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replying to trader_4 , Gunner wrote:
trader4 wrote:

Sounds like either a problem with the gas valve not flowing sufficient
gas to the pilot or an obstruction in the path between valve and
pilot light.


could it be the regulator on my propane tank causing the
issue..insufficient pressure?

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On 01/28/2016 1:44 PM, Gunner wrote:
replying to trader_4 , Gunner wrote:
trader4 wrote:

Sounds like either a problem with the gas valve not flowing sufficient
gas to the pilot or an obstruction in the path between valve and pilot
light.


could it be the regulator on my propane tank causing the
issue..insufficient pressure?

Ayup...I thought I mentioned that earlier in the other (duplicate)
thread along w/ some other possibilities but it again is pretty clear
supply.

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