A friend's house was designed by an architect to be his own house, about
8 years ago, until he sold it last year.

It has all kinds of gadgets, including a generator hard wired in, solar
panels in the back yard, alarm installed when the house was built,
Rinnai hot water (that I didn't understand), two big breaker boxes, only
half full but still with 45 breakers total,

Probably some garden faucets were hiding behind bushes, but the one on
the patio was a pipe, almost an inch in diameter that came out of the
wall one inch and then turned downwards. That part was 4 or 5 inches
long with a ball valve in it. And not the standard garden threads on
the end of that. Despite that there was a garden hose not connected
to but right next to this spigot. (I wish I had looked at the ends of
the hose.)

What was I looking at?

My friend told me she thought she had freeze-proof garden faucets but
she must be totally confused. Her pipes didn't burst last winter, but
future winters may be colder.

On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 01:33:17 -0400, micky
wrote:

A friend's house was designed by an architect to be his own house, about
8 years ago, until he sold it last year.

It has all kinds of gadgets, including a generator hard wired in, solar
panels in the back yard, alarm installed when the house was built,
Rinnai hot water (that I didn't understand), two big breaker boxes, only
half full but still with 45 breakers total,

Probably some garden faucets were hiding behind bushes, but the one on
the patio was a pipe, almost an inch in diameter that came out of the
wall one inch and then turned downwards. That part was 4 or 5 inches
long with a ball valve in it. And not the standard garden threads on
the end of that. Despite that there was a garden hose not connected
to but right next to this spigot. (I wish I had looked at the ends of
the hose.)

What was I looking at?

My friend told me she thought she had freeze-proof garden faucets but
she must be totally confused. Her pipes didn't burst last winter, but
future winters may be colder.



Does the place have fire sprinklers? If so, that sounds like a test
port that is opened to be sure the sprinklers are full and that flow
will set the alarm off.

On Monday, June 22, 2015 at 4:59:19 AM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 01:33:17 -0400, micky
wrote:

A friend's house was designed by an architect to be his own house, about
8 years ago, until he sold it last year.

It has all kinds of gadgets, including a generator hard wired in, solar
panels in the back yard, alarm installed when the house was built,
Rinnai hot water (that I didn't understand), two big breaker boxes, only
half full but still with 45 breakers total,

Probably some garden faucets were hiding behind bushes, but the one on
the patio was a pipe, almost an inch in diameter that came out of the
wall one inch and then turned downwards. That part was 4 or 5 inches
long with a ball valve in it. And not the standard garden threads on
the end of that. Despite that there was a garden hose not connected
to but right next to this spigot. (I wish I had looked at the ends of
the hose.)

What was I looking at?

My friend told me she thought she had freeze-proof garden faucets but
she must be totally confused. Her pipes didn't burst last winter, but
future winters may be colder.



Does the place have fire sprinklers? If so, that sounds like a test
port that is opened to be sure the sprinklers are full and that flow
will set the alarm off.

I must wonder if it's a drain for the plumbing system in case the house were to be left vacant and unheated for a length of time during cold weather when the owner moves to Florida for the winter? o_O

[8~{} Uncle Pipe Monster

On 06/22/2015 01:33 AM, micky wrote:

A friend's house was designed by an architect to be his own house, about
8 years ago, until he sold it last year.

It has all kinds of gadgets, including a generator hard wired in, solar
panels in the back yard, alarm installed when the house was built,
Rinnai hot water (that I didn't understand), two big breaker boxes, only
half full but still with 45 breakers total,

The Rinnai water heaters I encountered in Asia were gas-fired demand
heaters -- pilotless, IIRC.

Perce

On Monday, June 22, 2015 at 1:33:21 AM UTC-4, micky wrote:
A friend's house was designed by an architect to be his own house, about
8 years ago, until he sold it last year.

It has all kinds of gadgets, including a generator hard wired in, solar
panels in the back yard, alarm installed when the house was built,
Rinnai hot water (that I didn't understand), two big breaker boxes, only
half full but still with 45 breakers total,

Probably some garden faucets were hiding behind bushes, but the one on
the patio was a pipe, almost an inch in diameter that came out of the
wall one inch and then turned downwards. That part was 4 or 5 inches
long with a ball valve in it. And not the standard garden threads on
the end of that. Despite that there was a garden hose not connected
to but right next to this spigot. (I wish I had looked at the ends of
the hose.)

What was I looking at?

My friend told me she thought she had freeze-proof garden faucets but
she must be totally confused. Her pipes didn't burst last winter, but
future winters may be colder.

Why do you think that this house doesn't have freeze-proof garden
faucets? It's been standard in new construction here for decades.
Actually they are called frost-proof sillcocks. What the thing
you're describing is, I have no idea.

A friend's house was designed by an architect to be his own house, about
8 years ago, until he sold it last year.

It has all kinds of gadgets, including a generator hard wired in, solar
panels in the back yard, alarm installed when the house was built,
Rinnai hot water (that I didn't understand), two big breaker boxes, only
half full but still with 45 breakers total,

Probably some garden faucets were hiding behind bushes, but the one on
the patio was a pipe, almost an inch in diameter that came out of the
wall one inch and then turned downwards. That part was 4 or 5 inches
long with a ball valve in it. And not the standard garden threads on
the end of that. Despite that there was a garden hose not connected
to but right next to this spigot. (I wish I had looked at the ends of
the hose.)

What was I looking at?

Did you open the valve to see if water actually came out?

Without seeing it in person, it sounds like some kind of drain pipe, or
possibly an incoming pipe for a future gas line?

Anthony Watson
www.mountainsoftware.com
www.watsondiy.com

On 6/22/2015 1:33 AM, micky wrote:
A friend's house was designed by an architect to be his own house, about
8 years ago, until he sold it last year.

It has all kinds of gadgets, including a generator hard wired in, solar
panels in the back yard, alarm installed when the house was built,
Rinnai hot water (that I didn't understand), two big breaker boxes, only
half full but still with 45 breakers total,

Probably some garden faucets were hiding behind bushes, but the one on
the patio was a pipe, almost an inch in diameter that came out of the
wall one inch and then turned downwards. That part was 4 or 5 inches
long with a ball valve in it. And not the standard garden threads on
the end of that. Despite that there was a garden hose not connected
to but right next to this spigot. (I wish I had looked at the ends of
the hose.)

What was I looking at?

My friend told me she thought she had freeze-proof garden faucets but
she must be totally confused. Her pipes didn't burst last winter, but
future winters may be colder.




Planned to install lawn irrigation or artificial pond?

On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 05:48:43 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

On Monday, June 22, 2015 at 1:33:21 AM UTC-4, micky wrote:
A friend's house was designed by an architect to be his own house, about
8 years ago, until he sold it last year.

It has all kinds of gadgets, including a generator hard wired in, solar
panels in the back yard, alarm installed when the house was built,
Rinnai hot water (that I didn't understand), two big breaker boxes, only
half full but still with 45 breakers total,

Probably some garden faucets were hiding behind bushes, but the one on
the patio was a pipe, almost an inch in diameter that came out of the
wall one inch and then turned downwards. That part was 4 or 5 inches
long with a ball valve in it. And not the standard garden threads on
the end of that. Despite that there was a garden hose not connected
to but right next to this spigot. (I wish I had looked at the ends of
the hose.)

What was I looking at?

My friend told me she thought she had freeze-proof garden faucets but
she must be totally confused. Her pipes didn't burst last winter, but
future winters may be colder.

Why do you think that this house doesn't have freeze-proof garden
faucets?

Because this is clearly a garden faucet -- as I said, it was right next
to a reel of garden hose -- and it's not freeze-proof.

I'm not saying it doesn't have any. Some may have been hidden by the
bushes.

It's been standard in new construction here for decades.
Actually they are called frost-proof sillcocks. What the thing
you're describing is, I have no idea.

Norminn, she also has a lawn sprinker system, I think, and there's 3 or
4 acres but no place for a pond.

Anthony, I didn't think to turn it on. And that might be going too far
when she's not there. I don't get out that way very often, so I stopped
even though she wasn't there. The next door neighbor had been claiming
4 feet of her land, including a row of 6 foot fir trees!, and she had a
survey done, and I wanted to see the wooden sticks with red flags before
she took them down. I wanted to see where her boundary was, and I
wanted to see how in-your-face the flags were (only 6" high, but very),
so she didn't have to be home.

On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 03:10:35 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Monster
wrote:

On Monday, June 22, 2015 at 4:59:19 AM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 01:33:17 -0400, micky
wrote:

A friend's house was designed by an architect to be his own house, about
8 years ago, until he sold it last year.

It has all kinds of gadgets, including a generator hard wired in, solar
panels in the back yard, alarm installed when the house was built,
Rinnai hot water (that I didn't understand), two big breaker boxes, only
half full but still with 45 breakers total,

Probably some garden faucets were hiding behind bushes, but the one on
the patio was a pipe, almost an inch in diameter that came out of the
wall one inch and then turned downwards. That part was 4 or 5 inches
long with a ball valve in it. And not the standard garden threads on
the end of that. Despite that there was a garden hose not connected
to but right next to this spigot. (I wish I had looked at the ends of
the hose.)

What was I looking at?

My friend told me she thought she had freeze-proof garden faucets but
she must be totally confused. Her pipes didn't burst last winter, but
future winters may be colder.



Does the place have fire sprinklers? If so, that sounds like a test

Ohhhh, yeahhhhh. That's one of the gadgets.

port that is opened to be sure the sprinklers are full and that flow
will set the alarm off.

I don't remember if there are sprinklers in the basement, but since the
basement might get finished someday, there probably are.

So doesn't that present the same risk that other pipes that go to the
outside do, of freezing and bursting in a very cold winter?? So if
people need freeze-proof faucets to water their gardens, woudnt' they
need freeze-proof ports to check the sprinklers????


I know it's colder where she lives than where I do, the farther from the
water (the bay), the colder, around here. So her whole county is
colder. Plus she's on a hill with plenty of wind.


I must wonder if it's a drain for the plumbing system in case the house were to be left vacant and unheated for a length of time during cold weather when the owner moves to Florida for the winter? o_O

It is at the lowest point in the house. The front is at one level but
the lot slopes down and the patio is off the basement.

Like most new "developments", I think, it's built on what was a farm,
and she found out several months after she moved in that the hills were
made by the developer after the farm was sold to him.

It sure makes the area more attractive but does that raise prospective
issues of the ground settling and cracking foundations or other problems
I havent' thought of?

[8~{} Uncle Pipe Monster

On Monday, June 22, 2015 at 4:42:52 PM UTC-4, micky wrote:
On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 05:48:43 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

On Monday, June 22, 2015 at 1:33:21 AM UTC-4, micky wrote:
A friend's house was designed by an architect to be his own house, about
8 years ago, until he sold it last year.

It has all kinds of gadgets, including a generator hard wired in, solar
panels in the back yard, alarm installed when the house was built,
Rinnai hot water (that I didn't understand), two big breaker boxes, only
half full but still with 45 breakers total,

Probably some garden faucets were hiding behind bushes, but the one on
the patio was a pipe, almost an inch in diameter that came out of the
wall one inch and then turned downwards. That part was 4 or 5 inches
long with a ball valve in it. And not the standard garden threads on
the end of that. Despite that there was a garden hose not connected
to but right next to this spigot. (I wish I had looked at the ends of
the hose.)

What was I looking at?

My friend told me she thought she had freeze-proof garden faucets but
she must be totally confused. Her pipes didn't burst last winter, but
future winters may be colder.

Why do you think that this house doesn't have freeze-proof garden
faucets?

Because this is clearly a garden faucet -- as I said, it was right next
to a reel of garden hose -- and it's not freeze-proof.


Well then since it's clealy a garden faucet, and you know what it is
wtf, why are are you here?

I'm not saying it doesn't have any. Some may have been hidden by the
bushes.


Well that is exactly what you're saying.

It's been standard in new construction here for decades.
Actually they are called frost-proof sillcocks. What the thing
you're describing is, I have no idea.

Norminn, she also has a lawn sprinker system, I think, and there's 3 or
4 acres but no place for a pond.

Anthony, I didn't think to turn it on. And that might be going too far
when she's not there. I don't get out that way very often, so I stopped
even though she wasn't there. The next door neighbor had been claiming
4 feet of her land, including a row of 6 foot fir trees!, and she had a
survey done, and I wanted to see the wooden sticks with red flags before
she took them down. I wanted to see where her boundary was, and I
wanted to see how in-your-face the flags were (only 6" high, but very),
so she didn't have to be home.

Micky, you're the village idiot.

On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 13:55:12 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

On Monday, June 22, 2015 at 4:42:52 PM UTC-4, micky wrote:
On Mon, 22 Jun 2015 05:48:43 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

On Monday, June 22, 2015 at 1:33:21 AM UTC-4, micky wrote:
A friend's house was designed by an architect to be his own house, about
8 years ago, until he sold it last year.

It has all kinds of gadgets, including a generator hard wired in, solar
panels in the back yard, alarm installed when the house was built,
Rinnai hot water (that I didn't understand), two big breaker boxes, only
half full but still with 45 breakers total,

Probably some garden faucets were hiding behind bushes, but the one on
the patio was a pipe, almost an inch in diameter that came out of the
wall one inch and then turned downwards. That part was 4 or 5 inches
long with a ball valve in it. And not the standard garden threads on
the end of that. Despite that there was a garden hose not connected
to but right next to this spigot. (I wish I had looked at the ends of
the hose.)

What was I looking at?

My friend told me she thought she had freeze-proof garden faucets but
she must be totally confused. Her pipes didn't burst last winter, but
future winters may be colder.

Why do you think that this house doesn't have freeze-proof garden
faucets?

Because this is clearly a garden faucet -- as I said, it was right next
to a reel of garden hose -- and it's not freeze-proof.


Well then since it's clealy a garden faucet, and you know what it is
wtf, why are are you here?

To get an alternate or more specific answer to my question. Everyone
else who answered figured that out.

I'm not saying it doesn't have any. Some may have been hidden by the
bushes.


Well that is exactly what you're saying.

No. I'm sorry you can't follow a simple set of English sentences.

It's been standard in new construction here for decades.
Actually they are called frost-proof sillcocks. What the thing
you're describing is, I have no idea.

Norminn, she also has a lawn sprinker system, I think, and there's 3 or
4 acres but no place for a pond.

Anthony, I didn't think to turn it on. And that might be going too far
when she's not there. I don't get out that way very often, so I stopped
even though she wasn't there. The next door neighbor had been claiming
4 feet of her land, including a row of 6 foot fir trees!, and she had a
survey done, and I wanted to see the wooden sticks with red flags before
she took them down. I wanted to see where her boundary was, and I
wanted to see how in-your-face the flags were (only 6" high, but very),
so she didn't have to be home.

There's nothing wrong with this paragraph. If you think there is......

Micky, you're the village idiot.

I was going to call you combative in my previous post but I refrained.
Now I have it confirmed that you're a jackass.

On Monday, June 22, 2015 at 6:44:41 PM UTC-4, micky wrote:


No. I'm sorry you can't follow a simple set of English sentences.

I can follow and so can everyone else. In your own words:

"My friend told me she thought she had freeze-proof garden faucets but
she must be totally confused. Her pipes didn't burst last winter, but
future winters may be colder. "

Idiot.




I was going to call you combative in my previous post but I refrained.
Now I have it confirmed that you're a jackass.

You're clearly the village idiot, yet again. Here's an idea.
When confronted with something you don't understand, whether it's
a big honking hole in your roof for some mystery ridge vent product
that no one else has ever seen and you can't find a link to it
or a pipe sticking out of someone's house, why not take a pic of it
with that cell phone and post it ? Oh, I know, you don't know how
that works either.....