From:
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving,alt.home.repair,alt.autos
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 2:14 AM
Subject: How to make a "Blizzard Survival Kit" for Drivers

Making a "Blizzard Survival Kit" !!!

You're driving down the road in a winter blizzard. The
thermometer reads minus 25, the winds are blowing 50 mph
and you cant see ten feet ahead of you. Suddenly your car
slides off the road into a ditch and a deep snow bank.
The snow is packed under the car so the wheels do nothing
but spin. You don't have a snow shovel to dig the car out,
or a safety flare to alert the authorities. Your cellphone
battery is dead, and you're freezing cold. You know you
will soon die from exposure and freaze to deeth. What are
you going to do as you kneel on the front seat of your car
praying to the plastic Jesus hanging on your rear-view
mirror, while cussing out God because of the tragedy
you are experiencing.

But, you know you're prepared for an emergency such as
this, because you were smart enough to create a "Blizzard
Survival Kit" long before this disaster occurred, and
every good driver knows that sooner or later this disaster
WILL happen.

You open the glove compartment and find a small carboard
box. Inside the box is an ice pick, book of matches, some
cotton, a nail, some bubblegum, and a candle.

Here's how to use your "Blizzard Survival Kit".

1. Empty contents of the box.

2. Puncture the bottom of the cardboard box with the nail
and stick the nail into the bottom of the candle so the
candle stands upright
inside the box.

3. Place the cotton around the base of the candle inside
the box.

4. Light the candle inside the car so the wind does not
blow out the match.

5. Take the ice pick and puncture a small hole in your
cars gas tank.

6. Carry the "Blizzard Survival Kit" with burning candle
to the rear of the car and place the box near (but not
too close) to the leak in the gas tank which you made
with your ice pick.

7. Grab your plastic Jesus and get at least 500 feet
away from the car. This will be the toughest time
because you will be freezing cold and all you can do
is wait, while praying to your plastic Jesus for a
place in his plastic heaven, if you should die.

8. Several minutes pass, and you'll suddenly notice the
cotton ignite in the box, setting the box on fire, which
will then ignite the dripping gasoline. Seconds later
the entire contents of your gas tank will ignite, explode,
and begin to burn with a very hot fire. This is when you
can walk closer to the fire and warm up. The flames and
thick black smoke will alert the authorities that you are
there, and they will come to assist. Best yet, the heat
from the gasoline fire will melt the snow around your
car so you can easily drive away after you insert the
bubblegum in the hole in the gas tank, and refill the
tank with gas.

Today is a great day to create your very own "Blizzard
Survival Kit". Don't wait until disaster strikes, and
it's too late when the authorities find your frozen dead
body on the side of the road.

This road safety tip is provided as a courtesy by Mike's
Auto Salvage of Sarasota, Florida.

Mike

On Tuesday, March 3, 2015 at 9:23:18 AM UTC-5, Stormin Mormon wrote:
From:
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving,alt.home.repair,alt.autos
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 2:14 AM
Subject: How to make a "Blizzard Survival Kit" for Drivers

Making a "Blizzard Survival Kit" !!!

You're driving down the road in a winter blizzard. The
thermometer reads minus 25, the winds are blowing 50 mph
and you cant see ten feet ahead of you. Suddenly your car
slides off the road into a ditch and a deep snow bank.
The snow is packed under the car so the wheels do nothing
but spin. You don't have a snow shovel to dig the car out,
or a safety flare to alert the authorities. Your cellphone
battery is dead, and you're freezing cold. You know you
will soon die from exposure and freaze to deeth. What are
you going to do as you kneel on the front seat of your car
praying to the plastic Jesus hanging on your rear-view
mirror, while cussing out God because of the tragedy
you are experiencing.

But, you know you're prepared for an emergency such as
this, because you were smart enough to create a "Blizzard
Survival Kit" long before this disaster occurred, and
every good driver knows that sooner or later this disaster
WILL happen.

You open the glove compartment and find a small carboard
box. Inside the box is an ice pick, book of matches, some
cotton, a nail, some bubblegum, and a candle.

Here's how to use your "Blizzard Survival Kit".

1. Empty contents of the box.

2. Puncture the bottom of the cardboard box with the nail
and stick the nail into the bottom of the candle so the
candle stands upright
inside the box.

3. Place the cotton around the base of the candle inside
the box.

4. Light the candle inside the car so the wind does not
blow out the match.

5. Take the ice pick and puncture a small hole in your
cars gas tank.

6. Carry the "Blizzard Survival Kit" with burning candle
to the rear of the car and place the box near (but not
too close) to the leak in the gas tank which you made
with your ice pick.

7. Grab your plastic Jesus and get at least 500 feet
away from the car. This will be the toughest time
because you will be freezing cold and all you can do
is wait, while praying to your plastic Jesus for a
place in his plastic heaven, if you should die.

8. Several minutes pass, and you'll suddenly notice the
cotton ignite in the box, setting the box on fire, which
will then ignite the dripping gasoline. Seconds later
the entire contents of your gas tank will ignite, explode,
and begin to burn with a very hot fire. This is when you
can walk closer to the fire and warm up. The flames and
thick black smoke will alert the authorities that you are
there, and they will come to assist. Best yet, the heat
from the gasoline fire will melt the snow around your
car so you can easily drive away after you insert the
bubblegum in the hole in the gas tank, and refill the
tank with gas.

Today is a great day to create your very own "Blizzard
Survival Kit". Don't wait until disaster strikes, and
it's too late when the authorities find your frozen dead
body on the side of the road.

This road safety tip is provided as a courtesy by Mike's
Auto Salvage of Sarasota, Florida.

Mike

I would burn the spare tire to attract attention instead of setting the whole car on fire.

Paul

On 3/3/2015 10:23 AM, Pavel314 wrote:


I would burn the spare tire to attract attention instead of setting the whole car on fire.

Paul


Many cars today no longer come with a spare tire, just a can of
Fix-a-flat type stuff. You have to take a wheel off.

"Stormin Mormon" wrote in message
...
From:
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving,alt.home.repair,alt.autos
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 2:14 AM
Subject: How to make a "Blizzard Survival Kit" for Drivers

Making a "Blizzard Survival Kit" !!!

You're driving down the road in a winter blizzard. The
thermometer reads minus 25, the winds are blowing 50 mph
and you cant see ten feet ahead of you. Suddenly your car
slides off the road into a ditch and a deep snow bank.
The snow is packed under the car so the wheels do nothing
but spin. You don't have a snow shovel to dig the car out,
or a safety flare to alert the authorities. Your cellphone
battery is dead, and you're freezing cold. You know you
will soon die from exposure and freaze to deeth. What are
you going to do as you kneel on the front seat of your car
praying to the plastic Jesus hanging on your rear-view
mirror, while cussing out God because of the tragedy
you are experiencing.

But, you know you're prepared for an emergency such as
this, because you were smart enough to create a "Blizzard
Survival Kit" long before this disaster occurred, and
every good driver knows that sooner or later this disaster
WILL happen.

You open the glove compartment and find a small carboard
box. Inside the box is an ice pick, book of matches, some
cotton, a nail, some bubblegum, and a candle.

Here's how to use your "Blizzard Survival Kit".

1. Empty contents of the box.

2. Puncture the bottom of the cardboard box with the nail
and stick the nail into the bottom of the candle so the
candle stands upright
inside the box.

3. Place the cotton around the base of the candle inside
the box.

4. Light the candle inside the car so the wind does not
blow out the match.

5. Take the ice pick and puncture a small hole in your
cars gas tank.

6. Carry the "Blizzard Survival Kit" with burning candle
to the rear of the car and place the box near (but not
too close) to the leak in the gas tank which you made
with your ice pick.

7. Grab your plastic Jesus and get at least 500 feet
away from the car. This will be the toughest time
because you will be freezing cold and all you can do
is wait, while praying to your plastic Jesus for a
place in his plastic heaven, if you should die.

8. Several minutes pass, and you'll suddenly notice the
cotton ignite in the box, setting the box on fire, which
will then ignite the dripping gasoline. Seconds later
the entire contents of your gas tank will ignite, explode,
and begin to burn with a very hot fire. This is when you
can walk closer to the fire and warm up. The flames and
thick black smoke will alert the authorities that you are
there, and they will come to assist. Best yet, the heat
from the gasoline fire will melt the snow around your
car so you can easily drive away after you insert the
bubblegum in the hole in the gas tank, and refill the
tank with gas.

Today is a great day to create your very own "Blizzard
Survival Kit". Don't wait until disaster strikes, and
it's too late when the authorities find your frozen dead
body on the side of the road.

This road safety tip is provided as a courtesy by Mike's
Auto Salvage of Sarasota, Florida.

Mike


next time there is a blizzard in Sarasota Florida, we will all be prepared.

On Tue, 3 Mar 2015 10:31:55 -0800, "Reggie"
wrote:

next time there is a blizzard in Sarasota Florida, we will all be prepared.

ding, Ding, DING! We have a winner.

On 3/3/2015 12:22 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 3/3/2015 10:23 AM, Pavel314 wrote:


I would burn the spare tire to attract attention instead of setting
the whole car on fire.

Paul


Many cars today no longer come with a spare tire, just a can of
Fix-a-flat type stuff. You have to take a wheel off.

As of August 2014 these cars did not come with a spare tire according to
Consumer Reports:

Acura RLX
Audi TT
Buick LaCrosse
Cadillac CTS
Cadillac SRX
Cadillac XTS
Chevrolet Camaro
Chevrolet Malibu
Chevrolet Spark
Chevrolet Volt
Dodge Caliber
Dodge Dart
Fiat 500
Ford C-Max
Ford Focus
Ford Fusion
Ford Mustang
Honda Accord
Hyundai Accent
Hyundai Elantra
Hyundai Sonata
Hyundai Veloster
Infiniti G
Kia Forte
Kia Rio
Kia Soul
Land Rover Range Rover Sport
Mazda MX-5 Miata
Mitsubishi i-MiEV
Nissan Leaf
Porsche 911
Porsche Boxster
Porsche Panamera
Scion iQ
Smart ForTwo
Toyota Prius
Volvo C70
Volvo S60
....and probably some not listed.

On 03/03/2015 09:23 AM, Pavel314 wrote:



snip

Mike's
Auto Salvage of Sarasota, Florida.

Mike

I would burn the spare tire to attract attention instead of setting the whole car on fire.

Paul




When I was a kid I read a story about a business man driving home in a
snowstorm and eventually the snow was so deep and the visibility was so
poor he could drive no more.

He had a warm jacket so would not freeze and he had plenty of treats
that he was bringing for his family so he knew he'd be OK.


He really tried not to eat the treats but the hunger got to him and he
needed the energy to keep himself warm...so by morning he had eaten
everything.


The sun was now out and the snow had stopped...so he got out of the car
to get his bearing.


He was parked in front of his own house!

On 3/3/2015 10:23 AM, Pavel314 wrote:

8. Several minutes pass, and you'll suddenly notice the
cotton ignite in the box, setting the box on fire, which
will then ignite the dripping gasoline. Seconds later
the entire contents of your gas tank will ignite, explode,
and begin to burn with a very hot fire. This is when you

Mike

I would burn the spare tire to attract attention instead of setting the whole car on fire.

Paul


Makes more sense than most of what's on this
list. Thank you.

-
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

On 3/3/2015 1:41 PM, Oren wrote:
On Tue, 3 Mar 2015 10:31:55 -0800, "Reggie"
wrote:

next time there is a blizzard in Sarasota Florida, we will all be prepared.

ding, Ding, DING! We have a winner.


I second that. Good catch.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

On 3/3/2015 2:26 PM, IGot2P wrote:


As of August 2014 these cars did not come with a spare tire according to
Consumer Reports:

Acura RLX
Audi TT
Buick LaCrosse
Cadillac CTS
Cadillac SRX
Cadillac XTS
Chevrolet Camaro
Chevrolet Malibu
Chevrolet Spark
Chevrolet Volt
Dodge Caliber
Dodge Dart
Fiat 500
Ford C-Max
Ford Focus
Ford Fusion
Ford Mustang
Honda Accord
Hyundai Accent
Hyundai Elantra
Hyundai Sonata

My 2013 Sonata has a spare but would not be surprised it it is
eliminated. I've not driven on a spare for over 30 years until last
December when I had a gash in the sidewall. I'd have been screwed
without one. The free Roadside Assistance was nice to on a cold night.

On Tue, 03 Mar 2015 14:54:06 -0600, philo wrote:

On 03/03/2015 09:23 AM, Pavel314 wrote:



snip

Mike's
Auto Salvage of Sarasota, Florida.

Mike

I would burn the spare tire to attract attention instead of setting the whole car on fire.

Paul




When I was a kid I read a story about a business man driving home in a
snowstorm and eventually the snow was so deep and the visibility was so
poor he could drive no more.

He had a warm jacket so would not freeze and he had plenty of treats
that he was bringing for his family so he knew he'd be OK.


He really tried not to eat the treats but the hunger got to him and he
needed the energy to keep himself warm...so by morning he had eaten
everything.


The sun was now out and the snow had stopped...so he got out of the car
to get his bearing.


He was parked in front of his own house!
Heard basically the same story, but the guy didn't stay in his car.
He got out and tried to walk home. In the morning his wife found the
car parked less than 10 feet from the house - next day they found his
body half a mile away in a snow drift, frozen solid.

STAY IN THE CAR - at least untill the storm stops.

Part of the blizzard kit should be a telescopic handle like they sell
for paint rollers, and a reflective flag to tie to it with your name
and licence number on it to identify where the car is buried in the
snow drift, and a box of candles for heat. -a good blanket or sleeping
bag too. It's all in the back of my pickup - within reach of the
sliding window between the cab and the box - also in the trunk of the
Taurus - where it can be reached through the back seat pass-through to
the trunk.

On 2015-03-03 7:23 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:

snip

Best yet, the heat
from the gasoline fire will melt the snow around your
car so you can easily drive away after you insert the
bubblegum in the hole in the gas tank, and refill the
tank with gas.

Can't believe no one caught this little piece of wisdom?

How do you refill and drive away a car that blew up and burned to the
ground?

--
Dr. WTF

Stormin Mormon wrote:
From:
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving,alt.home.repair,alt.autos
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 2:14 AM
Subject: How to make a "Blizzard Survival Kit" for Drivers

Making a "Blizzard Survival Kit" !!!

You're driving down the road in a winter blizzard. The
thermometer reads minus 25, the winds are blowing 50 mph
and you cant see ten feet ahead of you. Suddenly your car
slides off the road into a ditch and a deep snow bank.
The snow is packed under the car so the wheels do nothing
but spin. You don't have a snow shovel to dig the car out,
or a safety flare to alert the authorities. Your cellphone
battery is dead, and you're freezing cold. You know you
will soon die from exposure and freaze to deeth. What are
you going to do as you kneel on the front seat of your car
praying to the plastic Jesus hanging on your rear-view
mirror, while cussing out God because of the tragedy
you are experiencing.

But, you know you're prepared for an emergency such as
this, because you were smart enough to create a "Blizzard
Survival Kit" long before this disaster occurred, and
every good driver knows that sooner or later this disaster
WILL happen.

You open the glove compartment and find a small carboard
box. Inside the box is an ice pick, book of matches, some
cotton, a nail, some bubblegum, and a candle.

Here's how to use your "Blizzard Survival Kit".

1. Empty contents of the box.

2. Puncture the bottom of the cardboard box with the nail
and stick the nail into the bottom of the candle so the
candle stands upright
inside the box.

3. Place the cotton around the base of the candle inside
the box.

4. Light the candle inside the car so the wind does not
blow out the match.

5. Take the ice pick and puncture a small hole in your
cars gas tank.

6. Carry the "Blizzard Survival Kit" with burning candle
to the rear of the car and place the box near (but not
too close) to the leak in the gas tank which you made
with your ice pick.

7. Grab your plastic Jesus and get at least 500 feet
away from the car. This will be the toughest time
because you will be freezing cold and all you can do
is wait, while praying to your plastic Jesus for a
place in his plastic heaven, if you should die.

8. Several minutes pass, and you'll suddenly notice the
cotton ignite in the box, setting the box on fire, which
will then ignite the dripping gasoline. Seconds later
the entire contents of your gas tank will ignite, explode,
and begin to burn with a very hot fire. This is when you
can walk closer to the fire and warm up. The flames and
thick black smoke will alert the authorities that you are
there, and they will come to assist. Best yet, the heat
from the gasoline fire will melt the snow around your
car so you can easily drive away after you insert the
bubblegum in the hole in the gas tank, and refill the
tank with gas.

Today is a great day to create your very own "Blizzard
Survival Kit". Don't wait until disaster strikes, and
it's too late when the authorities find your frozen dead
body on the side of the road.

This road safety tip is provided as a courtesy by Mike's
Auto Salvage of Sarasota, Florida.

Mike




I am surre it is a joke.

On 03/03/2015 08:13 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 03 Mar 2015 14:54:06 -0600, philo wrote:



snip


He really tried not to eat the treats but the hunger got to him and he
needed the energy to keep himself warm...so by morning he had eaten
everything.


The sun was now out and the snow had stopped...so he got out of the car
to get his bearing.


He was parked in front of his own house!
Heard basically the same story, but the guy didn't stay in his car.
He got out and tried to walk home. In the morning his wife found the
car parked less than 10 feet from the house - next day they found his
body half a mile away in a snow drift, frozen solid.

STAY IN THE CAR - at least untill the storm stops.

Part of the blizzard kit should be a telescopic handle like they sell
for paint rollers, and a reflective flag to tie to it with your name
and licence number on it to identify where the car is buried in the
snow drift, and a box of candles for heat. -a good blanket or sleeping
bag too. It's all in the back of my pickup - within reach of the
sliding window between the cab and the box - also in the trunk of the
Taurus - where it can be reached through the back seat pass-through to
the trunk.




The story I related was fictional

but people do freeze to death if they get out and walk.


There was one news item I read recently about a woman who froze solid
but miraculously survived after they thawed her out,


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5E394eoU54

On Tue, 3 Mar 2015 07:23:42 -0800 (PST), Pavel314
wrote:


5. Take the ice pick and puncture a small hole in your
cars gas tank.

6. Carry the "Blizzard Survival Kit" with burning candle
to the rear of the car and place the box near (but not
too close) to the leak in the gas tank which you made
with your ice pick.

7. Grab your plastic Jesus and get at least 500 feet
away from the car. This will be the toughest time
because you will be freezing cold and all you can do
is wait, while praying to your plastic Jesus for a
place in his plastic heaven, if you should die.

8. Several minutes pass, and you'll suddenly notice the
cotton ignite in the box, setting the box on fire, which
will then ignite the dripping gasoline. Seconds later
the entire contents of your gas tank will ignite, explode,
and begin to burn with a very hot fire. This is when you
can walk closer to the fire and warm up. The flames and
thick black smoke will alert the authorities that you are
there, and they will come to assist. Best yet, the heat
from the gasoline fire will melt the snow around your
car so you can easily drive away after you insert the
bubblegum in the hole in the gas tank, and refill the
tank with gas.

Today is a great day to create your very own "Blizzard
Survival Kit". Don't wait until disaster strikes, and
it's too late when the authorities find your frozen dead
body on the side of the road.

This road safety tip is provided as a courtesy by Mike's
Auto Salvage of Sarasota, Florida.

Mike

I would burn the spare tire to attract attention instead of setting
the whole car on fire.

Paul

That whole story was about the stupidest thing I ever read.....
THe spare tire makes more sense, but why not just carry some flares.

Much cheaper, much safer, adn better for the environment too!

On Tue, 03 Mar 2015 21:13:34 -0500, wrote:

He was parked in front of his own house!
Heard basically the same story, but the guy didn't stay in his car.
He got out and tried to walk home. In the morning his wife found the
car parked less than 10 feet from the house - next day they found his
body half a mile away in a snow drift, frozen solid.

STAY IN THE CAR - at least untill the storm stops.

They always say to STAY IN THE CAR, which makes sense if the car still
runs. But if it wont run, you can freeze inside the car too.

Years ago, my fuel pump quit working. I was about 3 miles from home,
out in the country on a gravel road around midnight. Cellphones were
rare back then and I did not have one. It was very cold and windy and
there was a lot of blowing snow. But with no fuel pump, the engine was
not going to start. I know no one would likely drive by there till 5 or
6am or later. I knew the road well, and knew there were 4 houses along
the way, but they are all older people, so waking them up was doubtful.

I decided to try to walk it. Halfway home I was starting to feel weak
and knew I was not going to make it. I was near a farmhouse, but I knew
the elderly people had moved to town, and there may or may not be anyone
at the house. I began walking toward the house when I heard their
cattle in the barn, which was closer to me than the house. I went into
the barn, and it was warmer and not windy, but I was damn cold.
Although I have had horses most of my life, I have never had much
experience with cows. But it did not take me long to walk up to a cow
and warm myself against her. After warming up, I walked around the
barn, found an old calf blanket, wrapped that around me, and that's when
I saw a phone on the wall. But I soon found out the phone was dead.

I just stayed in that barn until dawn, and was not sure what sort of
reaction I'd get when the farmer walked in, but I was not going to
freeze. But thats when I noticed the wind and snow had stopped, so I
walked the rest of the way home. I later called the farmer, told him
what happened, and told him I borrowed that calf blanket. He said he
was glad I was ok, and told me to just bring the blanket back whenever I
could, which I did that same day, after having a friend tow my car home.


Part of the blizzard kit should be a telescopic handle like they sell
for paint rollers, and a reflective flag to tie to it with your name
and licence number on it to identify where the car is buried in the
snow drift, and a box of candles for heat. -a good blanket or sleeping
bag too. It's all in the back of my pickup - within reach of the
sliding window between the cab and the box - also in the trunk of the
Taurus - where it can be reached through the back seat pass-through to
the trunk.

On 3/3/2015 3:54 PM, philo wrote:
When I was a kid I read a story about a business man driving home in a
snowstorm and eventually the snow was so deep and the visibility was so
poor he could drive no more.

He had a warm jacket so would not freeze and he had plenty of treats
that he was bringing for his family so he knew he'd be OK.


He really tried not to eat the treats but the hunger got to him and he
needed the energy to keep himself warm...so by morning he had eaten
everything.


The sun was now out and the snow had stopped...so he got out of the car
to get his bearing.


He was parked in front of his own house!

Yes, this is totally possible. What an ending.

-
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

On 03/04/2015 04:41 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 03 Mar 2015 21:13:34 -0500, wrote:

He was parked in front of his own house!
Heard basically the same story, but the guy didn't stay in his car.
He got out and tried to walk home. In the morning his wife found the
car parked less than 10 feet from the house - next day they found his
body half a mile away in a snow drift, frozen solid.

STAY IN THE CAR - at least untill the storm stops.

They always say to STAY IN THE CAR, which makes sense if the car still
runs. But if it wont run, you can freeze inside the car too.

Years ago, my fuel pump quit working. I was about 3 miles from home,
out in the country on a gravel road around midnight. Cellphones were
rare back then and I did not have one. It was very cold and windy and
there was a lot of blowing snow. But with no fuel pump, the engine was
not going to start. I know no one would likely drive by there till 5 or
6am or later. I knew the road well, and knew there were 4 houses along
the way, but they are all older people, so waking them up was doubtful.

I decided to try to walk it. Halfway home I was starting to feel weak
and knew I was not going to make it. I was near a farmhouse, but I knew
the elderly people had moved to town, and there may or may not be anyone
at the house. I began walking toward the house when I heard their
cattle in the barn, which was closer to me than the house. I went into
the barn, and it was warmer and not windy, but I was damn cold.
Although I have had horses most of my life, I have never had much
experience with cows. But it did not take me long to walk up to a cow
and warm myself against her. After warming up, I walked around the
barn, found an old calf blanket, wrapped that around me, and that's when
I saw a phone on the wall. But I soon found out the phone was dead.

I just stayed in that barn until dawn, and was not sure what sort of
reaction I'd get when the farmer walked in, but I was not going to
freeze. But thats when I noticed the wind and snow had stopped, so I
walked the rest of the way home. I later called the farmer, told him
what happened, and told him I borrowed that calf blanket. He said he
was glad I was ok, and told me to just bring the blanket back whenever I
could, which I did that same day, after having a friend tow my car home.


Part of the blizzard kit should be a telescopic handle like they sell
for paint rollers, and a reflective flag to tie to it with your name
and licence number on it to identify where the car is buried in the
snow drift, and a box of candles for heat. -a good blanket or sleeping
bag too. It's all in the back of my pickup - within reach of the
sliding window between the cab and the box - also in the trunk of the
Taurus - where it can be reached through the back seat pass-through to
the trunk.






Glad you made it. I usually have several blankets in my car.

On 3/3/2015 2:54 PM, philo wrote:

When I was a kid I read a story about a business man driving home in a
snowstorm and eventually the snow was so deep and the visibility was
so poor he could drive no more.

He had a warm jacket so would not freeze and he had plenty of treats
that he was bringing for his family so he knew he'd be OK.


He really tried not to eat the treats but the hunger got to him and he
needed the energy to keep himself warm...so by morning he had eaten
everything.


The sun was now out and the snow had stopped...so he got out of the
car to get his bearing.


He was parked in front of his own house!

Sounds like an updated version of Pa being trapped in a snowbank in
one of the Little House books. He'd walked back from town with candy
for Laura and Mary in his pocket, and he got so hungry, he ended up
eating it. When the storm died down and he dug himself out, he found
he was just a short distance from their shanty.

On Wednesday, March 4, 2015 at 3:35:52 AM UTC-6, philo wrote:

The story I related was fictional

but people do freeze to death if they get out and walk.


There was one news item I read recently about a woman who froze solid
but miraculously survived after they thawed her out,


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5E394eoU54

Of course the "frozen solid" is an exaggeration...her core temperature was in the 70's. Still, the "mammalian effect" is astounding!

Per :
After warming up, I walked around the
barn, found an old calf blanket, wrapped that around me

Nobody has mentioned snowmobile suits.

Where I live it's not even that cold - but around Thanksgiving I throw a
nylon duffel bag into the back seat that contains, among other things, a
snowmobile suit. Dunno how cold it has to be to freeze to death in
one of those things, but they are quite a bit warmer compared to regular
pants/coat.
--
Pete Cresswell

On 03/04/2015 08:35 AM, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per :
After warming up, I walked around the
barn, found an old calf blanket, wrapped that around me

Nobody has mentioned snowmobile suits.

Where I live it's not even that cold - but around Thanksgiving I throw a
nylon duffel bag into the back seat that contains, among other things, a
snowmobile suit. Dunno how cold it has to be to freeze to death in
one of those things, but they are quite a bit warmer compared to regular
pants/coat.




When I was in the Army and had to stand guard duty in the German winters
we were issued arctic clothing.

I kept most of it and have walked for miles in -20F without getting cold.

One such day I walked down to the lake and there was still plenty of
open water and I saw ducks swimming in it.


Now /that/ made me freeze just thinking about it.

On Tuesday, March 3, 2015 at 2:26:59 PM UTC-5, IGot2P wrote:
On 3/3/2015 12:22 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 3/3/2015 10:23 AM, Pavel314 wrote:


I would burn the spare tire to attract attention instead of setting
the whole car on fire.

Paul


Many cars today no longer come with a spare tire, just a can of
Fix-a-flat type stuff. You have to take a wheel off.

As of August 2014 these cars did not come with a spare tire according to
Consumer Reports:

Acura RLX
Audi TT
Buick LaCrosse
Cadillac CTS
Cadillac SRX
Cadillac XTS
Chevrolet Camaro
Chevrolet Malibu
Chevrolet Spark
Chevrolet Volt
Dodge Caliber
Dodge Dart
Fiat 500
Ford C-Max
Ford Focus
Ford Fusion
Ford Mustang
Honda Accord
Hyundai Accent
Hyundai Elantra
Hyundai Sonata
Hyundai Veloster
Infiniti G
Kia Forte
Kia Rio
Kia Soul
Land Rover Range Rover Sport
Mazda MX-5 Miata
Mitsubishi i-MiEV
Nissan Leaf
Porsche 911
Porsche Boxster
Porsche Panamera
Scion iQ
Smart ForTwo
Toyota Prius
Volvo C70
Volvo S60
...and probably some not listed.

I have a 2013 Fusion and it does have a spare tire; guess 2014 was a watershed model year. I saw something a while back about non-pneumatic tires for cars, which might be the next new thing.

Paul

On Wednesday, March 4, 2015 at 2:06:47 AM UTC-8, wrote:
On Tue, 3 Mar 2015 07:23:42 -0800 (PST), Pavel314
wrote:


5. Take the ice pick and puncture a small hole in your
cars gas tank.

6. Carry the "Blizzard Survival Kit" with burning candle
to the rear of the car and place the box near (but not
too close) to the leak in the gas tank which you made
with your ice pick.

7. Grab your plastic Jesus and get at least 500 feet
away from the car. This will be the toughest time
because you will be freezing cold and all you can do
is wait, while praying to your plastic Jesus for a
place in his plastic heaven, if you should die.

8. Several minutes pass, and you'll suddenly notice the
cotton ignite in the box, setting the box on fire, which
will then ignite the dripping gasoline. Seconds later
the entire contents of your gas tank will ignite, explode,
and begin to burn with a very hot fire. This is when you
can walk closer to the fire and warm up. The flames and
thick black smoke will alert the authorities that you are
there, and they will come to assist. Best yet, the heat
from the gasoline fire will melt the snow around your
car so you can easily drive away after you insert the
bubblegum in the hole in the gas tank, and refill the
tank with gas.

Today is a great day to create your very own "Blizzard
Survival Kit". Don't wait until disaster strikes, and
it's too late when the authorities find your frozen dead
body on the side of the road.

This road safety tip is provided as a courtesy by Mike's
Auto Salvage of Sarasota, Florida.

Mike

I would burn the spare tire to attract attention instead of setting
the whole car on fire.

Paul

That whole story was about the stupidest thing I ever read.....
THe spare tire makes more sense, but why not just carry some flares.

Much cheaper, much safer, adn better for the environment too!

Agree. My bet is that the fire would burn but the tank would not blow up. Whatever air is in the tank would be fuel rich to the point the vapor would not burn/explode until he tank was ruptured, not just a small puncture.


Harry K

Harry K wrote:
On Wednesday, March 4, 2015 at 2:06:47 AM UTC-8, wrote:
On Tue, 3 Mar 2015 07:23:42 -0800 (PST), Pavel314
wrote:


5. Take the ice pick and puncture a small hole in your
cars gas tank.

6. Carry the "Blizzard Survival Kit" with burning candle
to the rear of the car and place the box near (but not
too close) to the leak in the gas tank which you made
with your ice pick.

7. Grab your plastic Jesus and get at least 500 feet
away from the car. This will be the toughest time
because you will be freezing cold and all you can do
is wait, while praying to your plastic Jesus for a
place in his plastic heaven, if you should die.

8. Several minutes pass, and you'll suddenly notice the
cotton ignite in the box, setting the box on fire, which
will then ignite the dripping gasoline. Seconds later
the entire contents of your gas tank will ignite, explode,
and begin to burn with a very hot fire. This is when you
can walk closer to the fire and warm up. The flames and
thick black smoke will alert the authorities that you are
there, and they will come to assist. Best yet, the heat
from the gasoline fire will melt the snow around your
car so you can easily drive away after you insert the
bubblegum in the hole in the gas tank, and refill the
tank with gas.

Today is a great day to create your very own "Blizzard
Survival Kit". Don't wait until disaster strikes, and
it's too late when the authorities find your frozen dead
body on the side of the road.

This road safety tip is provided as a courtesy by Mike's
Auto Salvage of Sarasota, Florida.

Mike

I would burn the spare tire to attract attention instead of setting
the whole car on fire.

Paul

That whole story was about the stupidest thing I ever read.....
THe spare tire makes more sense, but why not just carry some flares.

Much cheaper, much safer, adn better for the environment too!

Agree. My bet is that the fire would burn but the tank would not blow up. Whatever air is in the tank would be fuel rich to the point the vapor would not burn/explode until he tank was ruptured, not just a small puncture.


Harry K

Hmm,
Some candle sticks will be good source of heat inside the car.
I have them plus some chocolate and protein bars, emergency blanket,
tow rope, chain, small shovel, always carried as a emergency kit in
winter time. Also I always fill gas when tank is half full just to be
sure. If you got stranded stay put, never wander off. Also I have DC
charger for cell phone and my ham radio handi talkie.

On 3/4/2015 9:01 AM, Moe DeLoughan wrote:
On 3/3/2015 2:54 PM, philo wrote:

When I was a kid I read a story about a business man driving home in a
snowstorm and eventually the snow was so deep and the visibility was
so poor he could drive no more.

He had a warm jacket so would not freeze and he had plenty of treats
that he was bringing for his family so he knew he'd be OK.


He really tried not to eat the treats but the hunger got to him and he
needed the energy to keep himself warm...so by morning he had eaten
everything.


The sun was now out and the snow had stopped...so he got out of the
car to get his bearing.


He was parked in front of his own house!

Sounds like an updated version of Pa being trapped in a snowbank in one
of the Little House books. He'd walked back from town with candy for
Laura and Mary in his pocket, and he got so hungry, he ended up eating
it. When the storm died down and he dug himself out, he found he was
just a short distance from their shanty.

Knowing the LHOP series, the girls were pleased that Pa
was safe, and all was forgiven.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

On Wed, 04 Mar 2015 04:41:41 -0600, wrote:

On Tue, 03 Mar 2015 21:13:34 -0500, wrote:

He was parked in front of his own house!
Heard basically the same story, but the guy didn't stay in his car.
He got out and tried to walk home. In the morning his wife found the
car parked less than 10 feet from the house - next day they found his
body half a mile away in a snow drift, frozen solid.

STAY IN THE CAR - at least untill the storm stops.

They always say to STAY IN THE CAR, which makes sense if the car still
runs. But if it wont run, you can freeze inside the car too.

In the car you are dry and out of the wind, and you won't be wandering
lost in the blizzard. With a good warm blanket and a few candles you
can avoid freezing to death if you stay dry.

Years ago, my fuel pump quit working. I was about 3 miles from home,
out in the country on a gravel road around midnight. Cellphones were
rare back then and I did not have one. It was very cold and windy and
there was a lot of blowing snow. But with no fuel pump, the engine was
not going to start. I know no one would likely drive by there till 5 or
6am or later. I knew the road well, and knew there were 4 houses along
the way, but they are all older people, so waking them up was doubtful.

I've been in blizards where you couldn't see more than a car length
when you were in the car - the snow going sideways at 40MPH and more
meant you couldn't see 3 feet when you were out in the wind.

Stupid to be caught out in that weather - and DEADLY stupid to be
walking around in it.

I decided to try to walk it. Halfway home I was starting to feel weak
and knew I was not going to make it. I was near a farmhouse, but I knew
the elderly people had moved to town, and there may or may not be anyone
at the house. I began walking toward the house when I heard their
cattle in the barn, which was closer to me than the house.
That's OK if you don't have 3-4 foot drifts to plough through, and if
you can see the barn
I went into
the barn, and it was warmer and not windy, but I was damn cold.
Although I have had horses most of my life, I have never had much
experience with cows. But it did not take me long to walk up to a cow
and warm myself against her. After warming up, I walked around the
barn, found an old calf blanket, wrapped that around me, and that's when
I saw a phone on the wall. But I soon found out the phone was dead.

I just stayed in that barn until dawn, and was not sure what sort of
reaction I'd get when the farmer walked in, but I was not going to
freeze. But thats when I noticed the wind and snow had stopped, so I
walked the rest of the way home. I later called the farmer, told him
what happened, and told him I borrowed that calf blanket. He said he
was glad I was ok, and told me to just bring the blanket back whenever I
could, which I did that same day, after having a friend tow my car home.


Part of the blizzard kit should be a telescopic handle like they sell
for paint rollers, and a reflective flag to tie to it with your name
and licence number on it to identify where the car is buried in the
snow drift, and a box of candles for heat. -a good blanket or sleeping
bag too. It's all in the back of my pickup - within reach of the
sliding window between the cab and the box - also in the trunk of the
Taurus - where it can be reached through the back seat pass-through to
the trunk.

On 3/4/2015 9:18 PM, wrote:
STAY IN THE CAR - at least untill the storm stops.

They always say to STAY IN THE CAR, which makes sense if the car still
runs. But if it wont run, you can freeze inside the car too.

In the car you are dry and out of the wind, and you won't be wandering
lost in the blizzard. With a good warm blanket and a few candles you
can avoid freezing to death if you stay dry.

CY: Much warmer. Yes, I do have a couple candles in the
back seat, and a lighter and matches. And some stiff
wire, so I can hang a candle from miror or visor.

6am or later. I knew the road well, and knew there were 4 houses along
the way, but they are all older people, so waking them up was doubtful.

I've been in blizards where you couldn't see more than a car length
when you were in the car - the snow going sideways at 40MPH and more
meant you couldn't see 3 feet when you were out in the wind.

Stupid to be caught out in that weather - and DEADLY stupid to be
walking around in it.

CY: We learned,in government schools to pull over
and put on the fourway flashers. Less likely for
someone to think you are in a lane and moving, and
tailend collide with you.

-
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

On 3/4/2015 9:18 PM, wrote:

I've been in blizards where you couldn't see more than a car length
when you were in the car - the snow going sideways at 40MPH and more
meant you couldn't see 3 feet when you were out in the wind.

Stupid to be caught out in that weather - and DEADLY stupid to be
walking around in it.

We get our share of snow here in CT,but usually not that bad. I've
driven in plenty of snow, but if predicted to be that bad, I stay home.
Weather reports today are fairly accurate so few people have reason to
take the risk..

On 3/4/2015 9:38 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 3/4/2015 9:18 PM, wrote:

I've been in blizards where you couldn't see more than a car length
when you were in the car - the snow going sideways at 40MPH and more
meant you couldn't see 3 feet when you were out in the wind.

Stupid to be caught out in that weather - and DEADLY stupid to be
walking around in it.

We get our share of snow here in CT,but usually not that bad. I've
driven in plenty of snow, but if predicted to be that bad, I stay home.
Weather reports today are fairly accurate so few people have reason to
take the risk..


On the alt.survival list, the question was posed by a fellow in
Colorado who was going to Arizona. He asked me what were some
good things to have in the vehicle. One of the items later
came to mind was NOAA radio. I've been out of town and looked
at the weather channel in the motel room, that's been a big
help. Took a different route, avoided the snow area. But, yes,
weather reports (radio, TV, computer web page) are a big help,
easier to stay out of trouble than go through trouble.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

Mar 3Reggie wrote:

"Stormin Mormon" wrote in message
...
- show quoted text -
next time there is a blizzard in Sarasota Florida, we will all be prepared. "


Not a question of if that will happen, but WHEN. Mother Earth is waking
up.

On Thursday, March 5, 2015 at 6:28:56 AM UTC-6, Stormin Mormon wrote:

easier to stay out of trouble than go through trouble.

I gotta save that one!

On 3/5/2015 8:27 AM, wrote:
Mar 3Reggie wrote:
next time there is a blizzard in Sarasota
Florida, we will all be prepared. "


Not a question of if that will happen, but
WHEN. Mother Earth is waking
up.


You know, I think there is truth in that.
The weather is a bit different than when I
was a kid.

-
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

On 3/5/2015 10:07 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:

You know, I think there is truth in that.
The weather is a bit different than when I
was a kid.

Ever since that moon landing. Congress controls the weather now.

On Thu, 05 Mar 2015 10:07:10 -0500, Stormin Mormon
wrote:

On 3/5/2015 8:27 AM, wrote:
Mar 3Reggie wrote:
next time there is a blizzard in Sarasota
Florida, we will all be prepared. "


Not a question of if that will happen, but
WHEN. Mother Earth is waking
up.


You know, I think there is truth in that.
The weather is a bit different than when I
was a kid.

-
.
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
. www.lds.org
.
.
This past winter has been a bit closer to what I gr than the last 20
have been (last winter excepted)

On Wed, 04 Mar 2015 21:18:16 -0500, wrote:

I've been in blizards where you couldn't see more than a car length
when you were in the car - the snow going sideways at 40MPH and more
meant you couldn't see 3 feet when you were out in the wind.

Stupid to be caught out in that weather - and DEADLY stupid to be
walking around in it.

I decided to try to walk it. Halfway home I was starting to feel weak
and knew I was not going to make it. I was near a farmhouse, but I knew
the elderly people had moved to town, and there may or may not be anyone
at the house. I began walking toward the house when I heard their
cattle in the barn, which was closer to me than the house.
That's OK if you don't have 3-4 foot drifts to plough through, and if
you can see the barn

I had two advantages.
1. I was close to home and know the area real well.
2. Although the snow was blowing real hard, it was not real deep, and
because the road is elevated th snow was blowing into the fields and not
staying on the road.

Another time, I actually got stuck in my own driveway, walking! There
was a drift at least 7 feeet tall, and my legs just sunk in, and snow
packed between my legs. I was only 200 feet from my house, but I barely
made it back to the house. I had to just roll backward to get out of
that drift, and that just made me colder as the snow packed inside my
clothing.

But I saw one worse. A neighbor boy, who was about 12 years old, went
out in a blizzard, hooked up a homemade sled to his small pony, and
found himself lost in the extreme blowing and deep snow. The pony got
stuck. The snow was packed under it's belly and it kept falling over
and thrashing around, and the sled made it worse. Luckily he had gone
off the road and was in a field right along my driveway, and managed to
get to my door. I was shocked to hear a knock on the door in that
blizzard. He was so cold he could hardly talk, but he started crying
about his pony.

The last thing I wanted to do was go out in that storm, but I was not
going to let that pony freeze, so as soon as the boy warmed up, I gave
him some dry clothing, which was too big for him, but dry. I dressed
myself real warm, got on my tractor and started to push snow. We
finally got to the pony who was ready to give up from exhaustion. The
sled was all busted up, so I just cut the ropes and tossed it aside.
Then I carefully plowed right along the side of the pony, and we hooked
a rope to him, and real easily pulled him out of the deep snow. Once he
was out of the drift, he got up, but was very stiff. By that time, I
was barely able to drive the tractor, the boy was no better, and the
pony was barely able to walk. I told the boy to stand on the tractor
drawbar, and hold that pony's rope real tight, so he walks along behind.
As soon as we got to my house, not only did myself and the boy come
inside, but so did the pony.

I called the boys parents and told them he was ok, but he was staying at
my house till the storm is over.

That could have been a disaster. But the boy and the pony were ok. The
sled ended up becoming firewood though. I think storms like this are
worse in the country, because there are fewer places to go for help and
less buildings to use as marker points. It's just one huge sheet of
snow that goes on for acres, and sometimes miles...... After many years
of living in the country, I think I know what to do, but there is always
some new problem that occurs. But I have learned over the years to just
stay in the house when a storm is coming, and stay there till it's over.
I know that boy learned a hard lesson that day too. Then again, I never
heard of a pony getting stuck in the snow either....

On 3/6/2015 6:05 AM, wrote:
some new problem that occurs. But I have learned over the years to just
stay in the house when a storm is coming, and stay there till it's over.
I know that boy learned a hard lesson that day too. Then again, I never
heard of a pony getting stuck in the snow either....


First, thank you for your kindness. Good of you to
warm up the boy, loan him clothes, etc. Wish more
adults were as caring. And you phoned his parents,
I'd dare to guess they were concerned.

As to the pony, there was writing in the Little
House on the Prarie books, the year of the big
winter. Pa had two horses, using them to go out
to bring in prarie grass to burn. One would go
insane when he punched through the snow, other
horse would calmly stand.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

Per :
But I have learned over the years to just
stay in the house when a storm is coming, and stay there till it's over.
I know that boy learned a hard lesson that day too. Then again, I never
heard of a pony getting stuck in the snow either....

Where do you live?

--
Pete Cresswell

On Fri, 06 Mar 2015 19:25:10 -0500, "(PeteCresswell)"
wrote:

Where do you live?

The Mojave Desert. February made a record for all time high (county) -
due to global whining.

71°F

On Fri, 06 Mar 2015 19:25:10 -0500, "(PeteCresswell)"
wrote:

Per :
But I have learned over the years to just
stay in the house when a storm is coming, and stay there till it's over.
I know that boy learned a hard lesson that day too. Then again, I never
heard of a pony getting stuck in the snow either....

Where do you live?
I've heard of Clydesdales getting stuck in snow - forget about
ponies!!!