It's home repair because I plan on fixing this at home....

My son's 2002 Ford Escort makes a squealing noise when he comes to a
complete stop, regardless of how long he's been driving the vehicle.

I've had it checked out by local garages and they say the brakes are
fine, but I doubt they dissasembled the brakes. Is this something
caused by glazing of the pads? Is the cure to replace the pads or
something else?

I can't tell if it's coming from the front or back. It's got drum
brakes in the back and I don't want to mess with those.

On Thu, 17 Jul 2014 18:05:22 +0000 (UTC), "badgolferman"
wrote:

It's home repair because I plan on fixing this at home....

My son's 2002 Ford Escort makes a squealing noise when he comes to a
complete stop, regardless of how long he's been driving the vehicle.

I've had it checked out by local garages and they say the brakes are
fine, but I doubt they dissasembled the brakes. Is this something
caused by glazing of the pads? Is the cure to replace the pads or
something else?

I can't tell if it's coming from the front or back. It's got drum
brakes in the back and I don't want to mess with those.

I'd pull the back wheels off, pull the drums and inspect them. The
noise may very well be metal on metal sounds. I got them right now.

Inspect the rear brakes, pads and drums. I presume you have front
breaks with calipers and disk break pads. That is another story.

On 7/17/2014 2:05 PM, badgolferman wrote:
It's home repair because I plan on fixing this at home....

My son's 2002 Ford Escort makes a squealing noise when he comes to a
complete stop, regardless of how long he's been driving the vehicle.

I've had it checked out by local garages and they say the brakes are
fine, but I doubt they dissasembled the brakes. Is this something
caused by glazing of the pads? Is the cure to replace the pads or
something else?

I can't tell if it's coming from the front or back. It's got drum
brakes in the back and I don't want to mess with those.

The couple time I've had squealing has been dust in
the rear drums. Might have to as least pull of the
wheels, beat the drums loose. Clean the dust out
with compressed air, brake cleaner, tooth brush,
and dry with more air.

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badgolferman wrote:
It's home repair because I plan on fixing this at home....

My son's 2002 Ford Escort makes a squealing noise when he comes to a
complete stop, regardless of how long he's been driving the vehicle.

I've had it checked out by local garages and they say the brakes are
fine, but I doubt they dissasembled the brakes. Is this something
caused by glazing of the pads? Is the cure to replace the pads or
something else?

I can't tell if it's coming from the front or back. It's got drum
brakes in the back and I don't want to mess with those.

Hi,
Not the model year, how many miles on the car?
First is the noise coming from front or back? Then jack up the wheel,
remove tire and take a look. You can clean the front brake dust/dirt
build up with spray brake cleaner. My brakes last at least 120K miles.
Mostly free way driving.

Golfer,

They use anti-squeal grease between the anti-squeal shim and the brake
pad on many disc brakes. A missing shim, incorrectly installed shim, or a
lack of grease could cause squealing.
This is worth fixing. Squealing brakes usually means that the pads are
worn. He won't know when his brakes are worn if the car squeals everyday.
Tell him to buy a tube of grease and spend a couple of hours pulling the
pads and greasing the shims.

Dave M.

On Thu, 17 Jul 2014 18:05:22 +0000 (UTC), "badgolferman"
wrote:

It's home repair because I plan on fixing this at home....

My son's 2002 Ford Escort makes a squealing noise when he comes to a
complete stop, regardless of how long he's been driving the vehicle.

I've had it checked out by local garages and they say the brakes are
fine, but I doubt they dissasembled the brakes. Is this something
caused by glazing of the pads? Is the cure to replace the pads or
something else?

I can't tell if it's coming from the front or back. It's got drum
brakes in the back and I don't want to mess with those.
Deglaze and chamfer the edges of the pads and put some "squeal stop"
on the back of the pads

On Thu, 17 Jul 2014 11:58:41 -0700, Oren wrote:

On Thu, 17 Jul 2014 18:05:22 +0000 (UTC), "badgolferman"
wrote:

It's home repair because I plan on fixing this at home....

My son's 2002 Ford Escort makes a squealing noise when he comes to a
complete stop, regardless of how long he's been driving the vehicle.

I've had it checked out by local garages and they say the brakes are
fine, but I doubt they dissasembled the brakes. Is this something
caused by glazing of the pads? Is the cure to replace the pads or
something else?

I can't tell if it's coming from the front or back. It's got drum
brakes in the back and I don't want to mess with those.

I'd pull the back wheels off, pull the drums and inspect them. The
noise may very well be metal on metal sounds. I got them right now.

Inspect the rear brakes, pads and drums. I presume you have front
breaks with calipers and disk break pads. That is another story.
dust in the rear drums will cause squeal when damp

On Thu, 17 Jul 2014 18:05:22 +0000 (UTC), "badgolferman"
wrote:

It's home repair because I plan on fixing this at home....

My son's 2002 Ford Escort makes a squealing noise when he comes to a
complete stop, regardless of how long he's been driving the vehicle.

I've had it checked out by local garages and they say the brakes are
fine, but I doubt they dissasembled the brakes. Is this something
caused by glazing of the pads? Is the cure to replace the pads or
something else?

I can't tell if it's coming from the front or back. It's got drum

Stand in one spot and have your son drive circles around you, until you
figure out if it's front or back. Or vice versa.

brakes in the back and I don't want to mess with those.

They are a little more complcated, but people fiddled with them for
decades. Just put them back the way you found them, not like me, who
put them back togerher in the wrong order or left a cable on top of
something it should be under. I drove for 6 months wondering why they
weren't as powerful as they used to be, thought they still worked.
Maybe I should have written down every step when I removed a part.

On Thursday, July 17, 2014 11:05:22 AM UTC-7, badgolferman wrote:

My son's 2002 Ford Escort makes a squealing noise when he comes to a
complete stop, regardless of how long he's been driving the vehicle.

I've had it checked out by local garages and they say the brakes are
fine, but I doubt they dissasembled the brakes. Is this something
caused by glazing of the pads? Is the cure to replace the pads or
something else?

I can't tell if it's coming from the front or back. It's got drum
brakes in the back and I don't want to mess with those.

Every time the drum brakes of my 1993 Escort squealed, it was
cured by removing the drums and hosing off the insides. For
front disks there's no need to remove anything; just spray
water from the inside and through the openings in the wheels.

Sometimes squealing is caused by metal vibrating against metal.
With drums that can be where the sides of the shoes sit against
the mounds of their backing plate, and applying tiny amounts
of high temperature grease there can fix it:

http://mike-thomson.com/blog/wp-cont...ant-points.jpg

For drum brakes, apply grease where the pads fit against the
calipers and to the rears of the pads (or both sides of the shims
that go between the pads and caliper).

On Thu, 17 Jul 2014 20:06:13 -0400, wrote:

I can't tell if it's coming from the front or back. It's got drum
brakes in the back and I don't want to mess with those.
Deglaze and chamfer the edges of the pads and put some "squeal stop"
on the back of the pads

If these are front brakes... also inspect the rotors. They can be
"turned" in a brake or machine shop. Same with the rear drums.

As long as the rotors and drums are within tolerances. Me? I have a
pile of new brake parts here... tick tock tick tock...

I de glaze the rotors, drums and pads. Ensure there is no oily, dirty
grime hand stuff on the surfaces. Light use of sandpaper. Brake spray
cleaner if I have it on hand, too.

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=ou5gfa&s=6

This rotor has ~ 138,000 miles on it; note the stress cracks :-\

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=9i4874&s=6#.U8lH60BFsdU

On Thu, 17 Jul 2014 23:31:53 -0400, micky
wrote:

I can't tell if it's coming from the front or back.

Stand in one spot and have your son drive circles around you, until you
figure out if it's front or back. Or vice versa.

I can tell the origins of the sound without circles being run around
me. Thought I'd just mentioned that :-\\

"badgolferman" wrote:
It's home repair because I plan on fixing this at home....

My son's 2002 Ford Escort makes a squealing noise when he comes to a
complete stop, regardless of how long he's been driving the vehicle.

I've had it checked out by local garages and they say the brakes are
fine, but I doubt they dissasembled the brakes. Is this something
caused by glazing of the pads? Is the cure to replace the pads or
something else?

I can't tell if it's coming from the front or back. It's got drum
brakes in the back and I don't want to mess with those.

I had my service station put new pads om my Dakota once. I got tired of
some really annoying squeals. I took it back, and he said, probably had
bendix pads. He changed them out, and everything was fine. Not sure why
someone at the station used them. Perhaps they are vehicle dependent.
Rotors on that were a problem for some reason. Went through a few.

Greg