have a situation I need some advise on. Have a vegetable garden area that
floods every spring and often takes weeks to dry out, so always late getting
things planted. Would like to find a way to pump the water from this area..
How can I do it............the area is just dirt and no grass. Is there a
way to put in sump with pump? how to filter to pump water and not mud?

writes:

have a situation I need some advise on. Have a vegetable garden area that
floods every spring and often takes weeks to dry out, so always late getting
things planted. Would like to find a way to pump the water from this area..
How can I do it............the area is just dirt and no grass. Is there a
way to put in sump with pump? how to filter to pump water and not mud?

Easiest, raised beds.

Otherwise, dig deep, install drainage pipes, backhoe.
Probably you'd need a pro.

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Dan Espen

On Friday, May 16, 2014 2:31:53 PM UTC-4, net cop wrote:
writes:



have a situation I need some advise on. Have a vegetable garden area that

floods every spring and often takes weeks to dry out, so always late getting

things planted. Would like to find a way to pump the water from this area..

How can I do it............the area is just dirt and no grass. Is there a

way to put in sump with pump? how to filter to pump water and not mud?



Easiest, raised beds.



Otherwise, dig deep, install drainage pipes, backhoe.

Probably you'd need a pro.



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Dan Espen

In addition, who even knows without some pics, more info.
If it's a 20 x 20 spot and it has a natural low spot,
just a sump pump with basin could work.

On Fri, 16 May 2014 18:02:28 GMT, wrote:

have a situation I need some advise on. Have a vegetable garden area that
floods every spring and often takes weeks to dry out, so always late getting
things planted. Would like to find a way to pump the water from this area..
How can I do it............the area is just dirt and no grass. Is there a
way to put in sump with pump? how to filter to pump water and not mud?

What about just using perforated irrigation pipe buried in the soil?

Pics:
http://rajacorporation.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/perforatedpvcpipe.jpg?w=293

http://www.dpiplastics.co.za/Gallery/Slotted.jpg

Use landscape fabric cloth or a pipe sock to cover the pipe and then
cover with soil.

Helps keeps soil out of the pipe.

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have a situation I need some advise on. Have a vegetable garden
area that floods every spring and often takes weeks to dry out, so
always late getting things planted. Would like to find a way to
pump the water from this area.. How can I do it............the area
is just dirt and no grass. Is there a way to put in sump with
pump? how to filter to pump water and not mud?

Do you have any property down hill from it? Dig a ditch.

There are such things as dirty water pumps but I have no idea how dirty the
water can be before they shout, "ENOUGH already!".


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On 5/16/2014 3:55 PM, dadiOH wrote:
wrote in message
b.com
have a situation I need some advise on. Have a vegetable garden
area that floods every spring and often takes weeks to dry out, so
always late getting things planted. Would like to find a way to
pump the water from this area.. How can I do it............the area
is just dirt and no grass. Is there a way to put in sump with
pump? how to filter to pump water and not mud?

Do you have any property down hill from it? Dig a ditch.

There are such things as dirty water pumps but I have no idea how dirty the
water can be before they shout, "ENOUGH already!".

Up to 2" solids for many dirty enough you reckon? Altho I expect
they're out of the budget OP would have in mind.

Sounds like what needs to do is tile it like they do in Iowa and the
like for field drains.

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The proper solution is to raise your garden, not lower the water.

If there is free water standing in that garden, it's because the elevation of the water table is above the ground elevation there. Putting in a pump isn't a good idea because you'll be pumping the high water out of the entire county. The water from your neighbor's yards are going to drain into your yard as long as your pump is lowering the water level in your yard.

People think a puddle in their yard can be pumped dry, but that isn't always the case. In the spring time the ground is saturated with snow melt water and the "water table" is the level at which the ground is fully saturated with water. Normally, the water table is at a pretty uniform elevation. It's the ground elevation that changes, and whenever the ground level is below the water table, a puddle of free standing water will form. The level of the water in that puddle will be the water table elevation in the surrounding ground. As the spring turns into summer, this water table elevation goes down as the water in the soil drains into your local rivers and streams. However, until that happens, large puddles of freestanding water occur wherever the water table elevation is higher than the ground elevation. So, pumping water out of your garden is very likely to be an uphill battle because water from everywhere around your garden is going to drain in as the water level in your garden drops.

A better fix would be to measure how deep the water is, do some basic arithmetic and figure out how many cubic yards of top soil you need to have your garden soil level about a foot above the water table elevation. That means you'd have to dig down a foot in your garden to reach the water table in spring, and that should be good enough for any vegetable, even carrots.

On 5/16/2014 7:09 PM, nestork wrote:

If there is free water standing in that garden, it's because the
elevation of the water table is above the ground elevation there.

....

Don't know that at all. It's far more than likely a low catchment area
than water table.

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If it wuz me, I'd probably use those interlocking bricks or blocks to build a wall around your garden to contain the soil so that it doesn't spread out all over the place. It might be a good idea to anchor them down somehow cuz I'm thinking they simply won't weigh as much when they're submerged, and that could cause the wall to come apart.

You want interlocking blocks because frost heave could cause the wall to rise in places, so you want to wall to fall back into place as the ice under it melts in spring. And, I suppose it would be good to use landscaping fabric on the inside of the block wall to prevent dirt from getting between the blocks in frost raises them.

I guess it'd be easy enough to confirm. Just use an old soup can to bail the water out of the garden into some 5 gallon pails, and see if the water comes back tomorrow. If it does, it's the water table, and you can't fight with it.

wrote in message b.com...
have a situation I need some advise on. Have a vegetable garden area that
floods every spring and often takes weeks to dry out, so always late getting
things planted. Would like to find a way to pump the water from this area..
How can I do it............the area is just dirt and no grass. Is there a
way to put in sump with pump? how to filter to pump water and not mud?

Plant rice.

On Fri, 16 May 2014 18:02:28 GMT, wrote:

have a situation I need some advise on. Have a vegetable garden area that
floods every spring and often takes weeks to dry out, so always late getting
things planted. Would like to find a way to pump the water from this area..
How can I do it............the area is just dirt and no grass. Is there a
way to put in sump with pump? how to filter to pump water and not mud?

Grow rice.

On 5/16/2014 1:02 PM, wrote:
have a situation I need some advise on. Have a vegetable garden area that
floods every spring and often takes weeks to dry out, so always late getting
things planted. Would like to find a way to pump the water from this area..
How can I do it............the area is just dirt and no grass. Is there a
way to put in sump with pump? how to filter to pump water and not mud?


Pony Pump

http://www.princessauto.com/pal/en/E...Pump/5771233.p

Self priming. Use a garden hose with a screen filter on the suction
side. Lay the end of the suction hose in the deepest water. You just
have to be careful and not let the pump run dry for very long.

LdB