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Windows: removing IE - moving to Firefox
This was in another thread about XP.
I removed IE. Backwards for each version. Ended up at v.8 Put FF 29.1 on and secured it. Set up No-script, a some other things. Went back and found out that Windows IE removal removed several Hot fixes So, I went forward and put IE back on (not used). There were some problems with update trying to install the fixes. At one point, Windows Update reported there were no updates installed. I chased it down and got it all fixed (with a beverage or two). Point: just remove IE Icons and leave it alone. Secure your browser experience using Firefox. The suggestion of removing IE may work best for IT pros on a network. However I do not recommend it for a typical user. I'm back to where I was. No missing critical fixes, etc. FF works on IE related sites with the IE Tab v.2 add on. So. Use Firefox (or choice) but leave IE on your system. I don't know how this works in Europe where you choose your own browser at install. Update is back and all things work. 2 cents.... |
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Windows: removing IE - moving to Firefox
Oren wrote:
This was in another thread about XP. I removed IE. Backwards for each version. Ended up at v.8 Put FF 29.1 on and secured it. Set up No-script, a some other things. Went back and found out that Windows IE removal removed several Hot fixes So, I went forward and put IE back on (not used). There were some problems with update trying to install the fixes. At one point, Windows Update reported there were no updates installed. I chased it down and got it all fixed (with a beverage or two). Point: just remove IE Icons and leave it alone. Secure your browser experience using Firefox. The suggestion of removing IE may work best for IT pros on a network. However I do not recommend it for a typical user. I'm back to where I was. No missing critical fixes, etc. FF works on IE related sites with the IE Tab v.2 add on. So. Use Firefox (or choice) but leave IE on your system. I don't know how this works in Europe where you choose your own browser at install. Update is back and all things work. 2 cents.... Hi, I keep IE up-to-date but I never use it. FF does not have all needed add-ons. then I use IE. |
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Windows: removing IE - moving to Firefox
On Fri, 16 May 2014 14:13:14 -0600, Tony Hwang
wrote: I keep IE up-to-date but I never use it. FF does not have all needed add-ons. then I use IE. Good. Don't remove it. I deleted the Icon in the Start menu. FF has an add-on (Todd mentioned it) IE Tab V2 (Enhanced IE Tab) 5.12.12.1 Right click on a link in FF for IE views. |
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Windows: removing IE - moving to Firefox
| Point: just remove IE Icons and leave it alone. Secure your browser
| experience using Firefox. | | The suggestion of removing IE may work best for IT pros on a network. | However I do not recommend it for a typical user. I'm back to where I | was. No missing critical fixes, etc. FF works on IE related sites with | the IE Tab v.2 add on. | I think you must be talking about reversing updates. You had IE9 or 10 and went back to IE8? You can't really uninstall IE. An IE browser window is used to display CHM help files. A browser window might be used in some software. I think the Desktop itself used to actually be an IE browser window. It may still be. Some software also uses IE functions for Internet operations. There are two central libraries, wininet.dll and urlmon.dll, which provide functions software can call. Those libraries are part of an IE install. Many programmers think the IE functions *are* Windows Internet functionality, because they're easy to use and usage is widespread. (You could actually be using a program that downloads files and ends up saving copies in your IE history. Not only could you be unaware. The author of the software might also be unaware! They think they're using the Windows API [core functionality for programmers] when they're actually using IE.) All of that is to say that it's really not feasible to actually remove IE. Many things would break. For that reason I never update IE at all, except on test machines where I want to test webpages with a newer version of IE. There are just too many problems that can happen because the whole thing is so poorly designed. (Poorly design for stability. But actually it was a very deliberate move. Microsoft originally intertwined IE with Windows in order to push Netscape out of the picture and make IE the default browser for everyone, which they pretty much succeeded in doing for many years.) If IE is not your default browser then there's no reason it ever needs to be in the way. I actually do use IE as my default. (IE6) But I never use it online. It's blocked by my firewall, and I'm very careful about what I open using IE. But since IE is really running all the time, anyway, it's very quick for opening HTML files that are on my machine. Sometimes I'll save things like articles from online, strip out the script, then save it in the original HTML form for easy reading. It's convenient to read those in IE, since FF is such a pig to get started. |
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Windows: removing IE - moving to Firefox
On Sat, 17 May 2014 09:42:01 -0400, "Mayayana"
wrote: | Point: just remove IE Icons and leave it alone. Secure your browser | experience using Firefox. | | The suggestion of removing IE may work best for IT pros on a network. | However I do not recommend it for a typical user. I'm back to where I | was. No missing critical fixes, etc. FF works on IE related sites with | the IE Tab v.2 add on. | I think you must be talking about reversing updates. You had IE9 or 10 and went back to IE8? You can't really uninstall IE. An IE browser window is used to display CHM help files. A browser window might be used in some software. I think the Desktop itself used to actually be an IE browser window. It may still be. Some software also uses IE functions for Internet operations. There are two central libraries, wininet.dll and urlmon.dll, which provide functions software can call. Those libraries are part of an IE install. Many programmers think the IE functions *are* Windows Internet functionality, because they're easy to use and usage is widespread. (You could actually be using a program that downloads files and ends up saving copies in your IE history. Not only could you be unaware. The author of the software might also be unaware! They think they're using the Windows API [core functionality for programmers] when they're actually using IE.) All of that is to say that it's really not feasible to actually remove IE. Many things would break. For that reason I never update IE at all, except on test machines where I want to test webpages with a newer version of IE. There are just too many problems that can happen because the whole thing is so poorly designed. (Poorly design for stability. But actually it was a very deliberate move. Microsoft originally intertwined IE with Windows in order to push Netscape out of the picture and make IE the default browser for everyone, which they pretty much succeeded in doing for many years.) If IE is not your default browser then there's no reason it ever needs to be in the way. I actually do use IE as my default. (IE6) But I never use it online. It's blocked by my firewall, and I'm very careful about what I open using IE. But since IE is really running all the time, anyway, it's very quick for opening HTML files that are on my machine. Sometimes I'll save things like articles from online, strip out the script, then save it in the original HTML form for easy reading. It's convenient to read those in IE, since FF is such a pig to get started. And Netscape became - Firefox |
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Windows: removing IE - moving to Firefox
On Sat, 17 May 2014 09:42:01 -0400, "Mayayana"
wrote: I think you must be talking about reversing updates. You had IE9 or 10 and went back to IE8? You can't really uninstall IE. What I'm guessing is there is some component of IE8 in Win7. I removed IE 11, IE10 and I think the uninstall skipped IE 9. Windows update showed a critical update was needed for IE8. This whole experiment was a mess. I learned a few things, though. Went to burn some CDs and was having problems with Media player and Windows Explorer. Tried some fixes, but decided to do a restore from a earlier restore point. That got me back on track. IE11 is back on, all updates installed. Media Player is working again as is Windows Explorer. Had to do same tweaks in Firerfox. Things normal again. P.S. Restore points seem be deleted over time or only so many are kept. My advice would be to manually create one regularly. I use the date as a part of the file name. https://tinyurl.com/44vnzht http://preview.tinyurl.com/44vnzht |
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