In the US Civil War, they called it nostalgia.

In WWI, they called it shell shock.

In WWII, they called it battle fatigue.

Now they call it post-traumatic stress disorder. (PTSD)

On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 9:17:54 AM UTC-7, micky wrote:
In the US Civil War, they called it nostalgia.



In WWI, they called it shell shock.

In WWII, they called it battle fatigue.

Now they call it post-traumatic stress disorder. (PTSD)

And they're even thinking about removing the "D" = disorder.

These macho commanders, from generals on down, until very recently espoused the "suck it up" therapy for suffering soldiers. Lotta good that did for human beings ruined for life by their experiences; suicides, drinking, drugs, marital problems, inability to hold jobs & contribute to society, and on & on.

Let's hope that now at least SOME commanders and their civilian oversight counterparts in government understand, for cryin' out loud a simple truth: Even if they don't give rat**** about the "wounded warriors" as human beings, lack of care is costing society far MORE than early intervention and follow-up care would cost. Your tax money at work -- for good, or ?
HB

On Wed, 9 Apr 2014 10:39:37 -0700 (PDT), Higgs Boson
wrote:

On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 9:17:54 AM UTC-7, micky wrote:
In the US Civil War, they called it nostalgia.

It was nostalgia btw that I had never heard about. The person wants to
live in the past, before he saw war. He doesnt' want to live in the
present. Therefore, they called it nostalgia.

In WWI, they called it shell shock.

In WWII, they called it battle fatigue.

Now they call it post-traumatic stress disorder. (PTSD)

And they're even thinking about removing the "D" = disorder.

These macho commanders, from generals on down, until very recently espoused the "suck it up" therapy for suffering soldiers. Lotta good that did for human beings ruined for life by their experiences; suicides, drinking, drugs, marital problems, inability to hold jobs & contribute to society, and on & on.

Let's hope that now at least SOME commanders and their civilian oversight counterparts in government understand, for cryin' out loud a simple truth: Even if they don't give rat**** about the "wounded warriors" as human beings, lack of care is costing society far MORE than early intervention and follow-up care would cost. Your tax money at work -- for good, or ?
HB

I'll have to think about this. You're probably right, for one thing
because a guy who gets messed up in war is probably 100% likely to know
about it.


I haven't thought about soldiers or ptsd, but you hit a nerve regarding
the use of Disoder in adsd and add, with which they diagnose children,
including one I know.

I think it's terrible to tell a child he has a mental disorder under
most of the circumstances that cause these diagnoses.

When I was a child, this was called not paying attention, too much
energy, etc. various good or mild things that still needed rectifying
in order to be successful in school, etc. I never had these
characteristics (a better word than "symptoms") but I would think
tellilng a kid he has too much energy (too much for the situation) is a
complement that will make him feel good. Telling him he has a disorder,
especially if lasts more than a year, is a way to break his spirit.

I wish I had had this figured out before my friends let, I'm pretty
sure, their kid hear that he had adsDisorder.

On 4/9/2014 2:05 PM, micky wrote:
On Wed, 9 Apr 2014 10:39:37 -0700 (PDT), Higgs Boson
wrote:

On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 9:17:54 AM UTC-7, micky wrote:
In the US Civil War, they called it nostalgia.

It was nostalgia btw that I had never heard about. The person wants to
live in the past, before he saw war. He doesnt' want to live in the
present. Therefore, they called it nostalgia.

In WWI, they called it shell shock.

In WWII, they called it battle fatigue.

Now they call it post-traumatic stress disorder. (PTSD)

And they're even thinking about removing the "D" = disorder.

These macho commanders, from generals on down, until very recently espoused the "suck it up" therapy for suffering soldiers. Lotta good that did for human beings ruined for life by their experiences; suicides, drinking, drugs, marital problems, inability to hold jobs & contribute to society, and on & on.

Let's hope that now at least SOME commanders and their civilian oversight counterparts in government understand, for cryin' out loud a simple truth: Even if they don't give rat**** about the "wounded warriors" as human beings, lack of care is costing society far MORE than early intervention and follow-up care would cost. Your tax money at work -- for good, or ?
HB

I'll have to think about this. You're probably right, for one thing
because a guy who gets messed up in war is probably 100% likely to know
about it.


I haven't thought about soldiers or ptsd, but you hit a nerve regarding
the use of Disoder in adsd and add, with which they diagnose children,
including one I know.

I think it's terrible to tell a child he has a mental disorder under
most of the circumstances that cause these diagnoses.

When I was a child, this was called not paying attention, too much
energy, etc. various good or mild things that still needed rectifying
in order to be successful in school, etc. I never had these
characteristics (a better word than "symptoms") but I would think
tellilng a kid he has too much energy (too much for the situation) is a
complement that will make him feel good. Telling him he has a disorder,
especially if lasts more than a year, is a way to break his spirit.

I wish I had had this figured out before my friends let, I'm pretty
sure, their kid hear that he had adsDisorder.


Everybody wants Uncle Sugar to pay for these things.
They say 90% of NYPD retires get disability pensions.
Bet it is high for these soldiers.

"Frank" wrote in message
...
Everybody wants Uncle Sugar to pay for these things.
They say 90% of NYPD retires get disability pensions.
Bet it is high for these soldiers.

Fellow at work was bragging how he is on the take. Seems that he was in the
army during the Vietnam era. He never left the states. A few years ago he
applied for some kind of mental dissability and got about 20% because he
worried that he may have had to go to Vietnam.


I never was in the military, but maybe I should apply because I may have
been drafted during that time.



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On Wed, 09 Apr 2014 12:17:54 -0400, micky
wrote:

In the US Civil War, they called it nostalgia.

In WWI, they called it shell shock.

In WWII, they called it battle fatigue.

Now they call it post-traumatic stress disorder. (PTSD)

People used to die from apoplexy and dropsy. Recorded on death
certificates.

On Wed, 09 Apr 2014 14:31:17 -0400, Frank
wrote:

On 4/9/2014 2:05 PM, micky wrote:
On Wed, 9 Apr 2014 10:39:37 -0700 (PDT), Higgs Boson
wrote:

On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 9:17:54 AM UTC-7, micky wrote:
In the US Civil War, they called it nostalgia.

It was nostalgia btw that I had never heard about. The person wants to
live in the past, before he saw war. He doesnt' want to live in the
present. Therefore, they called it nostalgia.

In WWI, they called it shell shock.

In WWII, they called it battle fatigue.

Now they call it post-traumatic stress disorder. (PTSD)

And they're even thinking about removing the "D" = disorder.

These macho commanders, from generals on down, until very recently espoused the "suck it up" therapy for suffering soldiers. Lotta good that did for human beings ruined for life by their experiences; suicides, drinking, drugs, marital problems, inability to hold jobs & contribute to society, and on & on.

Let's hope that now at least SOME commanders and their civilian oversight counterparts in government understand, for cryin' out loud a simple truth: Even if they don't give rat**** about the "wounded warriors" as human beings, lack of care is costing society far MORE than early intervention and follow-up care would cost. Your tax money at work -- for good, or ?
HB

I'll have to think about this. You're probably right, for one thing
because a guy who gets messed up in war is probably 100% likely to know
about it.


I haven't thought about soldiers or ptsd, but you hit a nerve regarding
the use of Disoder in adsd and add, with which they diagnose children,
including one I know.

I think it's terrible to tell a child he has a mental disorder under
most of the circumstances that cause these diagnoses.

When I was a child, this was called not paying attention, too much
energy, etc. various good or mild things that still needed rectifying
in order to be successful in school, etc. I never had these
characteristics (a better word than "symptoms") but I would think
tellilng a kid he has too much energy (too much for the situation) is a
complement that will make him feel good. Telling him he has a disorder,
especially if lasts more than a year, is a way to break his spirit.

I wish I had had this figured out before my friends let, I'm pretty
sure, their kid hear that he had adsDisorder.


Everybody wants Uncle Sugar to pay for these things.
They say 90% of NYPD retires get disability pensions.

They say the Loch Ness Monster is mostly active at down and sundown.

Bet it is high for these soldiers.

Bet it's not.