I'm just wondering if running a snow blower in the summer would harm the engine because of insufficient cooling? It seems to me that you have much the same kind of Tecumseh or Briggs & Stratton engine on a snow blower as you do on a rototiller.

You would need to put in a higher-range oil to run it in summer, but only if you're running it for 20min or more at a time.

Check the manual.

On 2/18/2014 6:54 PM, nestork wrote:

I'm just wondering if running a snow blower in the summer would harm the
engine because of insufficient cooling? It seems to me that you have
much the same kind of Tecumseh or Briggs & Stratton engine on a snow
blower as you do on a rototiller.

Some don't have an air filter, because the lawn dirt
is (in theory) under snow. I know mine does not
have air cleaner. So, dirt in the air is a concern.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
Learn about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

nestork wrote:
I'm just wondering if running a snow blower in the summer would harm the
engine because of insufficient cooling? It seems to me that you have
much the same kind of Tecumseh or Briggs & Stratton engine on a snow
blower as you do on a rototiller.



I don't winterize or summerize any of my outdoor power equipment. Snow
blower, leaf blowers, lawn mower, trimmer, etc. Instead, I start them up
once a month and let them run until they've reached normal operating
temperature.

I look at it this way: depending on the weather, any one of those items
could easily go 3-4 weeks without being used. If a lawnmower can sit for a
month during summer without being used, then it can sit for a month during
the winter without being used. The same goes in reverse for my snowblower.

I've had more trouble with all the other suggested methods for storing OPE
that I find much easier just to start 'em all once a month. It's been
working for me for about 4 years so I'm sticking with it.

On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 20:15:26 -0500, Stormin Mormon
wrote:

On 2/18/2014 6:54 PM, nestork wrote:

I'm just wondering if running a snow blower in the summer would harm the
engine because of insufficient cooling? It seems to me that you have
much the same kind of Tecumseh or Briggs & Stratton engine on a snow
blower as you do on a rototiller.

Some don't have an air filter, because the lawn dirt
is (in theory) under snow. I know mine does not
have air cleaner. So, dirt in the air is a concern.
Virtually ALL snow blower engines run without air filters.

DerbyDad03 writes:

nestork wrote:
I'm just wondering if running a snow blower in the summer would harm the
engine because of insufficient cooling? It seems to me that you have
much the same kind of Tecumseh or Briggs & Stratton engine on a snow
blower as you do on a rototiller.

I don't winterize or summerize any of my outdoor power equipment. Snow
blower, leaf blowers, lawn mower, trimmer, etc. Instead, I start them up
once a month and let them run until they've reached normal operating
temperature.

Once a month?

I don't do anything at all.
Stop using it in the fall, start it up in the spring.
I have a 2 cycle string trimmer that I sometimes don't start for a year or 2.
Starts fine when I want to use it.
Who makes up these time wasting rules?

--
Dan Espen

On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 00:54:15 +0100, nestork
wrote:


I'm just wondering if running a snow blower in the summer would harm the
engine because of insufficient cooling? It seems to me that you have
much the same kind of Tecumseh or Briggs & Stratton engine on a snow
blower as you do on a rototiller.

Are not these type engines air cooled? I'm allergic to owning a snow
blower, but sure they get serviced in the summer, no?

Dan Espen wrote:
DerbyDad03 writes:

nestork wrote:
I'm just wondering if running a snow blower in the summer would harm the
engine because of insufficient cooling? It seems to me that you have
much the same kind of Tecumseh or Briggs & Stratton engine on a snow
blower as you do on a rototiller.

I don't winterize or summerize any of my outdoor power equipment. Snow
blower, leaf blowers, lawn mower, trimmer, etc. Instead, I start them up
once a month and let them run until they've reached normal operating
temperature.

Once a month?

I don't do anything at all.
Stop using it in the fall, start it up in the spring.
I have a 2 cycle string trimmer that I sometimes don't start for a year or 2.
Starts fine when I want to use it.
Who makes up these time wasting rules?


I didn't know it was a rule. I just do what works for me. On those rare
occasions when I've left OPE without starting for full season I've had
problems, so I settled into once a month...more or less. It's not like I
set an alarm or anything. When I'm out doing other things in the yard, I'll
grab a piece of equipment and run it for few minutes. I like being outside,
regardless of the weather, so it's not a big deal.

On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 20:33:52 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 20:15:26 -0500, Stormin Mormon
wrote:

On 2/18/2014 6:54 PM, nestork wrote:

I'm just wondering if running a snow blower in the summer would harm the
engine because of insufficient cooling? It seems to me that you have
much the same kind of Tecumseh or Briggs & Stratton engine on a snow
blower as you do on a rototiller.

Some don't have an air filter, because the lawn dirt
is (in theory) under snow. I know mine does not
have air cleaner. So, dirt in the air is a concern.
Virtually ALL snow blower engines run without air filters.

Correct about the lack of air filter, but as for the heat hurting the
engine, it dont harm a lawnmower or tiller. The engines are all prety
much the same. Just dont run it when it's windy because of NO air
filter.

On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 20:38:03 -0600, wrote:

On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 20:33:52 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 20:15:26 -0500, Stormin Mormon
wrote:

On 2/18/2014 6:54 PM, nestork wrote:

I'm just wondering if running a snow blower in the summer would harm the
engine because of insufficient cooling? It seems to me that you have
much the same kind of Tecumseh or Briggs & Stratton engine on a snow
blower as you do on a rototiller.

Some don't have an air filter, because the lawn dirt
is (in theory) under snow. I know mine does not
have air cleaner. So, dirt in the air is a concern.
Virtually ALL snow blower engines run without air filters.

Correct about the lack of air filter, but as for the heat hurting the
engine, it dont harm a lawnmower or tiller. The engines are all prety
much the same. Just dont run it when it's windy because of NO air
filter.

Just pop the preheater housing off and bolt on a filter.

On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 21:53:12 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 20:38:03 -0600, wrote:

On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 20:33:52 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 20:15:26 -0500, Stormin Mormon
wrote:

On 2/18/2014 6:54 PM, nestork wrote:

I'm just wondering if running a snow blower in the summer would harm the
engine because of insufficient cooling? It seems to me that you have
much the same kind of Tecumseh or Briggs & Stratton engine on a snow
blower as you do on a rototiller.

Some don't have an air filter, because the lawn dirt
is (in theory) under snow. I know mine does not
have air cleaner. So, dirt in the air is a concern.
Virtually ALL snow blower engines run without air filters.

Correct about the lack of air filter, but as for the heat hurting the
engine, it dont harm a lawnmower or tiller. The engines are all prety
much the same. Just dont run it when it's windy because of NO air
filter.

Just pop the preheater housing off and bolt on a filter.

Preheater housing??????

I've nver had such a thing, but all my Snowblowers are old.

Yea, a filter from a similar engined' mower should fit.

I've always wondered what happens when snow gets into the engines????

wrote:

....snip...

I've always wondered what happens when snow gets into the engines????

It melts.

On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 21:08:54 -0600, wrote:

On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 21:53:12 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 20:38:03 -0600, wrote:

On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 20:33:52 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 20:15:26 -0500, Stormin Mormon
wrote:

On 2/18/2014 6:54 PM, nestork wrote:

I'm just wondering if running a snow blower in the summer would harm the
engine because of insufficient cooling? It seems to me that you have
much the same kind of Tecumseh or Briggs & Stratton engine on a snow
blower as you do on a rototiller.

Some don't have an air filter, because the lawn dirt
is (in theory) under snow. I know mine does not
have air cleaner. So, dirt in the air is a concern.
Virtually ALL snow blower engines run without air filters.

Correct about the lack of air filter, but as for the heat hurting the
engine, it dont harm a lawnmower or tiller. The engines are all prety
much the same. Just dont run it when it's windy because of NO air
filter.

Just pop the preheater housing off and bolt on a filter.

Preheater housing??????

I've nver had such a thing, but all my Snowblowers are old.

Yea, a filter from a similar engined' mower should fit.

I've always wondered what happens when snow gets into the engines????

every Tecumseh Snow King and every Briggs Winter app flathead engine
has a shroud that brings intake air in through a housing around the
muffler. This is to preheat the air to prevent carburetor icing. This
also makes it virtually impossible for the carb to suck in snow. A
filter would plug up - or get wet from melting snow and then freeze..

Not sure about their OHV engines, but my Yamaha definitely does as
well.(6-24)

DerbyDad03 writes:

Dan Espen wrote:
DerbyDad03 writes:

nestork wrote:
I'm just wondering if running a snow blower in the summer would harm the
engine because of insufficient cooling? It seems to me that you have
much the same kind of Tecumseh or Briggs & Stratton engine on a snow
blower as you do on a rototiller.

I don't winterize or summerize any of my outdoor power equipment. Snow
blower, leaf blowers, lawn mower, trimmer, etc. Instead, I start them up
once a month and let them run until they've reached normal operating
temperature.

Once a month?

I don't do anything at all.
Stop using it in the fall, start it up in the spring.
I have a 2 cycle string trimmer that I sometimes don't start for a year or 2.
Starts fine when I want to use it.
Who makes up these time wasting rules?

I didn't know it was a rule. I just do what works for me. On those rare
occasions when I've left OPE without starting for full season I've had
problems, so I settled into once a month...more or less. It's not like I
set an alarm or anything. When I'm out doing other things in the yard, I'll
grab a piece of equipment and run it for few minutes. I like being outside,
regardless of the weather, so it's not a big deal.

Well, if you want to, you're not doing any harm.
I just don't think it's necessary.

--
Dan Espen

I think I know why you feel you've had good results by starting all your small gas engines one per month.

Small gas engines use splash lubrication. Basically, the crankshaft splashes oil all over the inside of the crank case, including the cylinder walls under the piston. It's that oil film that helps to provide good compression when you start any of your small engines.

Piston rings by themselves don't provide sufficient compression to start a gasoline engine. Piston rings are smaller than the grooves they ride in, and that allows some of the hot combustion gasses on the power stroke to get behind the piston ring and push it outward tightly against the cylinder wall.

It's the pressure of the hot combustion gasses pushing the compression ring outward against the cylinder wall that provides the tight seal needed to get the most power out of the engine. But, until the engine starts, you have to rely on the oil film on the cylinder walls to help seal around the compression rings to give the engine sufficient compression to start.

By starting your engines once a month, you're continually recoating the cylinder walls with new oil so that the next time the engine is started, there's still enough oil on the cylinder walls to provide good enough compression for the engine to start.

You could do the same thing by simply shaking a small gasoline engine (like a leaf blower or chain saw) immediately before you start it at the beginning of the season, or taking the spark plug wire off of a rototiller and pulling the recoil starter a few times just to splash some oil on the cylinder walls. That is, instead of starting the engines every month, why not simply do something to splash oil onto the cylinder walls before you start them for the first time each season.

The idea is simply to re-establish an oil film on the cylinder walls before trying to start the engine for the first time in the season. Without doing that, the oil film will drain away over the course of several months, and it won't be sufficiently thick to provide a good seal around the compression ring, and you'll have trouble starting the engine cuz of lack of compression.

On 2/18/2014 9:38 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 20:33:52 -0500, wrote:
Virtually ALL snow blower engines run without air filters.

Correct about the lack of air filter, but as for the heat hurting the
engine, it dont harm a lawnmower or tiller. The engines are all prety
much the same. Just dont run it when it's windy because of NO air
filter.

I'd have said not to run while mowing the
lawn (whomping dust up from the ground).


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Christopher A. Young
Learn about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

On 2/18/2014 10:08 PM, wrote:
Yea, a filter from a similar engined' mower should fit.

I've always wondered what happens when snow gets into the engines????

It really blows.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
Learn about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

Once a month?

I don't do anything at all.
Stop using it in the fall, start it up in the spring.
I have a 2 cycle string trimmer that I sometimes don't start for a
year or 2. Starts fine when I want to use it.
Who makes up these time wasting rules?

I'm 30 years into my mowing business. All my
equipment is left alone unstarted for 3-4
months each year. It used to be that I'd not
even drain the fuel at the end of the season, tho
that is no longer the case. No issues whatsoever.

"83LowRider" wrote:
Once a month?

I don't do anything at all.
Stop using it in the fall, start it up in the spring.
I have a 2 cycle string trimmer that I sometimes don't start for a
year or 2. Starts fine when I want to use it.
Who makes up these time wasting rules?

I'm 30 years into my mowing business. All my
equipment is left alone unstarted for 3-4
months each year. It used to be that I'd not
even drain the fuel at the end of the season, tho
that is no longer the case. No issues whatsoever.

So why did you switch to draining the fuel?

On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 8:26:39 PM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:
nestork wrote:

I'm just wondering if running a snow blower in the summer would harm the

engine because of insufficient cooling? It seems to me that you have

much the same kind of Tecumseh or Briggs & Stratton engine on a snow

blower as you do on a rototiller.







I don't winterize or summerize any of my outdoor power equipment. Snow

blower, leaf blowers, lawn mower, trimmer, etc. Instead, I start them up

once a month and let them run until they've reached normal operating

temperature.



I look at it this way: depending on the weather, any one of those items

could easily go 3-4 weeks without being used. If a lawnmower can sit for a

month during summer without being used, then it can sit for a month during

the winter without being used. The same goes in reverse for my snowblower.



I've had more trouble with all the other suggested methods for storing OPE

that I find much easier just to start 'em all once a month. It's been

working for me for about 4 years so I'm sticking with it.

I start the generator on the first weekend of every month and let it run to operating temperature, maybe 5 minutes. During the summer I also start the tiller and during the winter the snow blower gets started on generator wakeup weekend.

Paul

On 02/18/2014 06:54 PM, nestork wrote:
I'm just wondering if running a snow blower in the summer would harm the
engine because of insufficient cooling? It seems to me that you have
much the same kind of Tecumseh or Briggs & Stratton engine on a snow
blower as you do on a rototiller.





Merely running the engine off-season is not sufficient.

The auger gearbox and drive mechanism need to be exercised as well so you should also walk it up and down your driveway a half dozen times or so.

On 2/18/2014 7:15 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 2/18/2014 6:54 PM, nestork wrote:

I'm just wondering if running a snow blower in the summer would
harm the engine because of insufficient cooling? It seems to me
that you have much the same kind of Tecumseh or Briggs & Stratton
engine on a snow blower as you do on a rototiller.

Some don't have an air filter, because the lawn dirt is (in theory)
under snow. I know mine does not have air cleaner. So, dirt in the
air is a concern.

Hey! I learned something new. I had no idea that snow blowers had no air
filter. I understand the reason and I wonder if the cooling air flow
over the engine is restricted so the engine can run hot enough for
efficiency? If a homeowner around here possessed a snow blower, it's
sure sign that he is an alien Yankee who moved here with all sorts of
exotic items not see here in Alabamastan which is much closer the the
equator of this planet thus having a warmer climate(usually). Al Gore
changed our climate in order to convince people that they must be taxed
for the utilization and production of one of the basic building blocks
of all life on Earth. ^_^

TDD

On 2/19/2014 6:37 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 2/18/2014 10:08 PM, wrote:
Yea, a filter from a similar engined' mower should fit.

I've always wondered what happens when snow gets into the
engines????

It really blows.

It increases power like the old piston engined fighter planes of WWII
which used water injection. There was alcohol mixed with the water and I
assume it was used to keep the water from freezing. Of course you can
always the gasoline that contains alcohol but not too much because your
engine could get drunk. ^_^

TDD

On 2/18/2014 8:23 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
Dan Espen wrote:
DerbyDad03 writes:

nestork wrote:
I'm just wondering if running a snow blower in the summer would harm the
engine because of insufficient cooling? It seems to me that you have
much the same kind of Tecumseh or Briggs & Stratton engine on a snow
blower as you do on a rototiller.

I don't winterize or summerize any of my outdoor power equipment. Snow
blower, leaf blowers, lawn mower, trimmer, etc. Instead, I start them up
once a month and let them run until they've reached normal operating
temperature.

Once a month?

I don't do anything at all.
Stop using it in the fall, start it up in the spring.
I have a 2 cycle string trimmer that I sometimes don't start for a year or 2.
Starts fine when I want to use it.
Who makes up these time wasting rules?


I didn't know it was a rule. I just do what works for me. On those rare
occasions when I've left OPE without starting for full season I've had
problems, so I settled into once a month...more or less. It's not like I
set an alarm or anything. When I'm out doing other things in the yard, I'll
grab a piece of equipment and run it for few minutes. I like being outside,
regardless of the weather, so it's not a big deal.

All of the automatic residential generators I installed exercised once a
week at a time of day determined by how the timer was set. Those
generators ran on natural gas so there was no concern about stale fuel.
It was done to make sure it would be ready for an emergency. I don't
guess there was any emergency need for a snow blower to run at any time
except for this winter. ^_^

TDD

On Thursday, February 20, 2014 4:47:22 AM UTC-5, Bill wrote:
On 02/18/2014 06:54 PM, nestork wrote:

I'm just wondering if running a snow blower in the summer would harm the

engine because of insufficient cooling? It seems to me that you have

much the same kind of Tecumseh or Briggs & Stratton engine on a snow

blower as you do on a rototiller.











Merely running the engine off-season is not sufficient.



The auger gearbox and drive mechanism need to be exercised as well so you should also walk it up and down your driveway a half dozen times or so.

Funny thing, I've never seen anything in a snowblower
manual that said you had to to that. I run the fuel
out of mine and leave it all winter. Been doing that
15 years and the only problems I've had were if I
forgot to empty the fuel. Any gearbox has gears that
are covered in oil. What bad is going to come to them?

On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 05:46:16 -0600, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

On 2/18/2014 7:15 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 2/18/2014 6:54 PM, nestork wrote:

I'm just wondering if running a snow blower in the summer would
harm the engine because of insufficient cooling? It seems to me
that you have much the same kind of Tecumseh or Briggs & Stratton
engine on a snow blower as you do on a rototiller.

Some don't have an air filter, because the lawn dirt is (in theory)
under snow. I know mine does not have air cleaner. So, dirt in the
air is a concern.

Hey! I learned something new. I had no idea that snow blowers had no air
filter. I understand the reason and I wonder if the cooling air flow
over the engine is restricted so the engine can run hot enough for
efficiency? If a homeowner around here possessed a snow blower, it's
sure sign that he is an alien Yankee who moved here with all sorts of
exotic items not see here in Alabamastan which is much closer the the
equator of this planet thus having a warmer climate(usually). Al Gore
changed our climate in order to convince people that they must be taxed
for the utilization and production of one of the basic building blocks
of all life on Earth. ^_^

TDD
Fan and heat shrouding, as well as fins, are identical on summer and
winter use engines. Same part numbers.

On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 05:46:16 -0600, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

Hey! I learned something new. I had no idea that snow blowers had no air
filter. I understand the reason and I wonder if the cooling air flow
over the engine is restricted so the engine can run hot enough for
efficiency? If a homeowner around here possessed a snow blower, it's
sure sign that he is an alien Yankee who moved here with all sorts of
exotic items not see here in Alabamastan which is much closer the the
equator of this planet thus having a warmer climate(usually). Al Gore
changed our climate in order to convince people that they must be taxed
for the utilization and production of one of the basic building blocks
of all life on Earth. ^_^

TDD

After I moved to Yankee land years ago, against good advice, I took
the Yankee's advice later. _'drive South until you see no more snow,
drop the truck snow plow on the side of the road, abandon it and drive
further South...

Happy happy happy

I'm 30 years into my mowing business. All my
equipment is left alone unstarted for 3-4
months each year. It used to be that I'd not
even drain the fuel at the end of the season, tho
that is no longer the case. No issues whatsoever.

So why did you switch to draining the fuel?

The ethanol and/or overall difference in gas gives me
occasional grief. I've had to pull the carb off of
a thing or two mower, blower, whatever. I don't
remember gas 'seperating' in the past, as it does now.
And the ethanol plays a role as well I'd suppose.
Either way, it's pretty easy to just run everything dry
at the end of the season.

On 2/20/2014 7:42 PM, Oren wrote:
On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 05:46:16 -0600, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

Hey! I learned something new. I had no idea that snow blowers had
no air filter. I understand the reason and I wonder if the cooling
air flow over the engine is restricted so the engine can run hot
enough for efficiency? If a homeowner around here possessed a snow
blower, it's sure sign that he is an alien Yankee who moved here
with all sorts of exotic items not see here in Alabamastan which is
much closer the the equator of this planet thus having a warmer
climate(usually). Al Gore changed our climate in order to convince
people that they must be taxed for the utilization and production
of one of the basic building blocks of all life on Earth. ^_^

TDD

After I moved to Yankee land years ago, against good advice, I took
the Yankee's advice later. _'drive South until you see no more
snow, drop the truck snow plow on the side of the road, abandon it
and drive further South...

Happy happy happy

I try not to be too hard on my Eskimo cousins up there in New York. ^_^

TDD

The Daring Dufas posted for all of us...

And I know how to SNIP


On 2/19/2014 6:37 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 2/18/2014 10:08 PM, wrote:
Yea, a filter from a similar engined' mower should fit.

I've always wondered what happens when snow gets into the
engines????

It really blows.

It increases power like the old piston engined fighter planes of WWII
which used water injection. There was alcohol mixed with the water and I
assume it was used to keep the water from freezing. Of course you can
always the gasoline that contains alcohol but not too much because your
engine could get drunk. ^_^

TDD

Remember all the water injection schemes of our youth DD ? Plastic tubing
run to the air cleaner cover?

--
Tekkie

On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 21:40:27 -0500, Tekkie®
wrote:

The Daring Dufas posted for all of us...

And I know how to SNIP


On 2/19/2014 6:37 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 2/18/2014 10:08 PM, wrote:
Yea, a filter from a similar engined' mower should fit.

I've always wondered what happens when snow gets into the
engines????

It really blows.

It increases power like the old piston engined fighter planes of WWII
which used water injection. There was alcohol mixed with the water and I
assume it was used to keep the water from freezing. Of course you can
always the gasoline that contains alcohol but not too much because your
engine could get drunk. ^_^

TDD

Remember all the water injection schemes of our youth DD ? Plastic tubing
run to the air cleaner cover?
Water injection only helps if you have high enough compression and
enough advance that you are running into detonation problems with the
available fuel. It ALLOWS you to use the compression and timing
advance to release all the power the fuel contains.

On 2/20/2014 8:40 PM, Tekkie® wrote:
The Daring Dufas posted for all of us...

And I know how to SNIP


On 2/19/2014 6:37 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 2/18/2014 10:08 PM, wrote:
Yea, a filter from a similar engined' mower should fit.

I've always wondered what happens when snow gets into the
engines????

It really blows.

It increases power like the old piston engined fighter planes of
WWII which used water injection. There was alcohol mixed with the
water and I assume it was used to keep the water from freezing. Of
course you can always the gasoline that contains alcohol but not
too much because your engine could get drunk. ^_^

TDD

Remember all the water injection schemes of our youth DD ? Plastic
tubing run to the air cleaner cover?

I used to get rid of carbon deposits in my old vehicles by dribbling
water into the carburetor while revving the engine. I could see black
stuff blowing out the tailpipe and the engine ran better afterwards. ^_^

TDD

On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 23:47:24 -0600, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

On 2/20/2014 8:40 PM, Tekkie® wrote:
The Daring Dufas posted for all of us...

And I know how to SNIP


On 2/19/2014 6:37 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 2/18/2014 10:08 PM, wrote:
Yea, a filter from a similar engined' mower should fit.

I've always wondered what happens when snow gets into the
engines????

It really blows.

It increases power like the old piston engined fighter planes of
WWII which used water injection. There was alcohol mixed with the
water and I assume it was used to keep the water from freezing. Of
course you can always the gasoline that contains alcohol but not
too much because your engine could get drunk. ^_^

TDD

Remember all the water injection schemes of our youth DD ? Plastic
tubing run to the air cleaner cover?

I used to get rid of carbon deposits in my old vehicles by dribbling
water into the carburetor while revving the engine. I could see black
stuff blowing out the tailpipe and the engine ran better afterwards. ^_^

TDD
Very common old mechanic's trick.

On 2/21/2014 7:16 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 23:47:24 -0600, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

On 2/20/2014 8:40 PM, Tekkie® wrote:
The Daring Dufas posted for all of us...

And I know how to SNIP


On 2/19/2014 6:37 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 2/18/2014 10:08 PM, wrote:
Yea, a filter from a similar engined' mower should fit.

I've always wondered what happens when snow gets into the
engines????

It really blows.

It increases power like the old piston engined fighter planes
of WWII which used water injection. There was alcohol mixed
with the water and I assume it was used to keep the water from
freezing. Of course you can always the gasoline that contains
alcohol but not too much because your engine could get drunk.
^_^

TDD

Remember all the water injection schemes of our youth DD ?
Plastic tubing run to the air cleaner cover?

I used to get rid of carbon deposits in my old vehicles by
dribbling water into the carburetor while revving the engine. I
could see black stuff blowing out the tailpipe and the engine ran
better afterwards. ^_^

TDD
Very common old mechanic's trick.

I learned it from ancient mechanics scrolls uncovered at an
archeological dig of a Cave Billy garage. ^_^

TDD

On 2/21/2014 8:16 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 23:47:24 -0600, The Daring Dufas
I used to get rid of carbon deposits in my old vehicles by dribbling
water into the carburetor while revving the engine. I could see black
stuff blowing out the tailpipe and the engine ran better afterwards. ^_^

TDD
Very common old mechanic's trick.

Back when there were something called magazines,
someone wrote of using half water and half brake
fluid in a coke bottle.

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replying to nestork, Wedge wrote:
Never had an issue with anything not starting because there wasn't a film of
oil and lack of compression. If that were really true, you wouldn't be able
to start brand new machines for the first time that sat for who knows how long
after manufacture before being sold.

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replying to Bill, Wedge wrote:
Not necessary. If that were true, people would have problems with brand new
machines. Machines very often sit for many, many months after manufacture
before being sold. They can sit for far fewer months between seasons and
they'll be just fine.

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On Thu, 15 Jun 2017 20:14:03 GMT, Wedge
m wrote:

replying to nestork, Wedge wrote:
Never had an issue with anything not starting because there wasn't a film of
oil and lack of compression. If that were really true, you wouldn't be able
to start brand new machines for the first time that sat for who knows how long
after manufacture before being sold.
I've had quite a few machines that would not start due to lack of
compression after having been badlt flooded. A shot of oil down the
intake or into the plug hole solves the problem, with lots of smoke on
startup. I've also had guys rebuild an engine without adequately
oiling the cyls/rings and have one DEVIL of a time getting them
started (I was an auto mechanics instructor at both secondary school
and trade levels)

On Thursday, June 15, 2017 at 4:14:08 PM UTC-4, Wedge wrote:
replying to nestork, Wedge wrote:
Never had an issue with anything not starting because there wasn't a film of
oil and lack of compression. If that were really true, you wouldn't be able
to start brand new machines for the first time that sat for who knows how long
after manufacture before being sold.


I wonder if the machines have been sitting for the 3.5 years since this
nestork asked his question.

On Thu, 15 Jun 2017 16:26:43 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote:

On Thursday, June 15, 2017 at 4:14:08 PM UTC-4, Wedge wrote:
replying to nestork, Wedge wrote:
Never had an issue with anything not starting because there wasn't a film of
oil and lack of compression. If that were really true, you wouldn't be able
to start brand new machines for the first time that sat for who knows how long
after manufacture before being sold.


I wonder if the machines have been sitting for the 3.5 years since this
nestork asked his question.

We haven't seen Nestor since about the time prior his hip replacement.