TDD,

Have you ever used an OEM Win7 HP product key on a Retail Win7 HP
clean install?

I get different answers and different approaches. Some say no, some
say yes. it will work. Some show how to edit a *.cfg file in an ISO
image, so Windows sees OEM or Retail - so the key can be entered for
activation. Some say skip key entry, and use the phone activation
process.

Friend's laptop has OEM Win7 Home Premium (HP) full of bloat ware.
Want to do a clean install from a retail (Win7 HP) disk ....use the
OEM key. I've extracted the key (BBBBB-BBBBB-BBBBB-BBBBB-BBBBB)
(sample)

Just want to use that key on a new, clean install from a retail disk
or a Win7 HP SP1 slipstream ISO image (authentic from MS)

The slipstream image saves a gozillion downloads before SP1 gets
installed and then another zillion updates to get current.

Hopefully, I'm not too confusing

....or a *good* NG for Windows 7? MS has stopped supporting Usenet
NG's

On 12/20/2013 12:50 PM, Oren wrote:
TDD,

Have you ever used an OEM Win7 HP product key on a Retail Win7 HP
clean install?

I get different answers and different approaches. Some say no, some
say yes. it will work. Some show how to edit a *.cfg file in an ISO
image, so Windows sees OEM or Retail - so the key can be entered for
activation. Some say skip key entry, and use the phone activation
process.

Friend's laptop has OEM Win7 Home Premium (HP) full of bloat ware.
Want to do a clean install from a retail (Win7 HP) disk ....use the
OEM key. I've extracted the key (BBBBB-BBBBB-BBBBB-BBBBB-BBBBB)
(sample)

Just want to use that key on a new, clean install from a retail disk
or a Win7 HP SP1 slipstream ISO image (authentic from MS)

The slipstream image saves a gozillion downloads before SP1 gets
installed and then another zillion updates to get current.

Hopefully, I'm not too confusing

...or a *good* NG for Windows 7? MS has stopped supporting Usenet
NG's


I haven't used OEM Win7 for any installs, upgrades or reinstalls yet
even though I have OEM and pirate hacked copies. I have used the
recovery features on used laptops that I've obtained and if done right,
the built in recovery works very well. I did this with a used HP G62
loaded with Win7 I got from a pawn shop. I also did a recovery from the
built in partition on a Toshiba 17" laptop I also got from the pawnshop.
It has Vista and both machines are working normally. Your friends laptop
will have a recovery partition unless the hard drive was reformatted
which would probably erase it. I would recommend getting on the web and
looking for directions for doing a recovery which may reset the computer
back to the way it came from the factory which may or may not wipe out
what data and software has been installed by the owner. If you can, back
up pictures and documents before doing the recovery operation. ^_^

TDD

On Fri, 20 Dec 2013 15:29:10 -0600, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

I haven't used OEM Win7 for any installs, upgrades or reinstalls yet
even though I have OEM and pirate hacked copies. I have used the
recovery features on used laptops that I've obtained and if done right,
the built in recovery works very well. I did this with a used HP G62
loaded with Win7 I got from a pawn shop. I also did a recovery from the
built in partition on a Toshiba 17" laptop I also got from the pawnshop.
It has Vista and both machines are working normally. Your friends laptop
will have a recovery partition unless the hard drive was reformatted
which would probably erase it. I would recommend getting on the web and
looking for directions for doing a recovery which may reset the computer
back to the way it came from the factory which may or may not wipe out
what data and software has been installed by the owner. If you can, back
up pictures and documents before doing the recovery operation. ^_^

TDD

She did not get disks from HP, but did make the recommenced recovery
disks and backups of the system.

I've burned her docs, pics and such to save.

The thing is, a clean install is better than the OEM bloat ware that
would be restored back to OEM from the factory....slowing the system
and using large amounts of system resources.

With so many "yes you can, no you can't" use OEM key on a retail
version - I've trying to verify it before I blow the partitions and
start over and get rid of all the system hogs.

On 12/20/2013 3:56 PM, Oren wrote:
On Fri, 20 Dec 2013 15:29:10 -0600, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

I haven't used OEM Win7 for any installs, upgrades or reinstalls yet
even though I have OEM and pirate hacked copies. I have used the
recovery features on used laptops that I've obtained and if done right,
the built in recovery works very well. I did this with a used HP G62
loaded with Win7 I got from a pawn shop. I also did a recovery from the
built in partition on a Toshiba 17" laptop I also got from the pawnshop.
It has Vista and both machines are working normally. Your friends laptop
will have a recovery partition unless the hard drive was reformatted
which would probably erase it. I would recommend getting on the web and
looking for directions for doing a recovery which may reset the computer
back to the way it came from the factory which may or may not wipe out
what data and software has been installed by the owner. If you can, back
up pictures and documents before doing the recovery operation. ^_^

TDD

She did not get disks from HP, but did make the recommenced recovery
disks and backups of the system.

I've burned her docs, pics and such to save.

The thing is, a clean install is better than the OEM bloat ware that
would be restored back to OEM from the factory....slowing the system
and using large amounts of system resources.

With so many "yes you can, no you can't" use OEM key on a retail
version - I've trying to verify it before I blow the partitions and
start over and get rid of all the system hogs.


Check to see if the recovery partition is on the hard disk. You need to
see if there is a key combination to press which will put the computer
in recovery mode that works off the hard disk that's in the computer, no
CD needed. That's how I straightened out the laptops I bought. You can
remove factory loaded bloatware a lot easier than you think. Check
out Decrap, a free software to get factory installed bloatware off a new
laptop. ^_^

http://www.decrap.org/

TDD

On Fri, 20 Dec 2013 19:16:41 -0600, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

Check
out Decrap, a free software to get factory installed bloatware off a new
laptop. ^_^

http://www.decrap.org/

TDD

I'm familiar with the program. To late now.

I did a new install with a retail SP1 slipstream ISO image disk (from
my link above) version but used the OEM key. I skipped the on-line
activation for now, and have 30 days to find out is the OEM key works
with retail disk.

A great, free program, is Belarc Adviser. People may want to run it
and print the report for later use.

http://belarc.com/

On 12/20/2013 7:42 PM, Oren wrote:
On Fri, 20 Dec 2013 19:16:41 -0600, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

Check
out Decrap, a free software to get factory installed bloatware off a new
laptop. ^_^

http://www.decrap.org/

TDD

I'm familiar with the program. To late now.

I did a new install with a retail SP1 slipstream ISO image disk (from
my link above) version but used the OEM key. I skipped the on-line
activation for now, and have 30 days to find out is the OEM key works
with retail disk.

A great, free program, is Belarc Adviser. People may want to run it
and print the report for later use.

http://belarc.com/


Belarc is one of many programs I have on my workstation. If you have MS
Antivirus, I discovered that it can't handle a lot of files even though
I install for "normal" folks. I have around 2.5 million files on my
machine and MS Antivirus gronked when it tried to scan my system so I
use AVG and I'm going to try another antivirus to see how well it works.
I'm going to be playing around with multiple operating systems on a new
machine I plan on building and hot-rodding my Dell workstation by
replacing the 2 core CPU with a 4 core CPU. The motherboard will only
handle 4gb of memory so I have to get a motherboard or a newer machine
that will take more memory. I've already started switching to solid
state hard drives in my laptops and a solid state drive can make an
older laptop a lot more usable. ^_^

TDD

On 12-20-2013, 20:16, The Daring Dufas wrote:
Check to see if the recovery partition is on the hard disk. You need to
see if there is a key combination to press which will put the computer
in recovery mode that works off the hard disk that's in the computer, no
CD needed. That's how I straightened out the laptops I bought. You can
remove factory loaded bloatware a lot easier than you think. Check
out Decrap, a free software to get factory installed bloatware off a new
laptop. ^_^

I got a Windows 8 laptop cheap (display model). When I got it home, I
discovered that they had failed to remove the anti-theft device AND the
demo software.

The device took fifteen minutes to remove and left some kind of chemical
on the plastic shell. Looks normal when dry but when damp has a very
visible square on it.

The demo software only took a couple of minutes to "remove" by
reinstalling the factory default disk image stored somewhere
in the machine (not online). However, it took me at least
ten minutes to figure out how to find that option in the BIOS.

Windows 8 out-of-the-box is usable. I don't like it, but it is usable.

However, I bought this thing for someone who is visually impaired.
But when I turned on any of the accessibility features, the system was
no longer usable. The display was so trashed that I could not turn them
off. Had to use my new found BIOS trick to reinstall everything.

--
Wes Groleau

€œTo know what you prefer, instead of humbly saying
Amen to what the world tells you you should prefer,
is to have kept your soul alive.€�
€” Robert Louis Stevenson

On 12/20/2013 9:53 PM, Wes Groleau wrote:
On 12-20-2013, 20:16, The Daring Dufas wrote:
Check to see if the recovery partition is on the hard disk. You need to
see if there is a key combination to press which will put the computer
in recovery mode that works off the hard disk that's in the computer, no
CD needed. That's how I straightened out the laptops I bought. You can
remove factory loaded bloatware a lot easier than you think. Check
out Decrap, a free software to get factory installed bloatware off a new
laptop. ^_^

I got a Windows 8 laptop cheap (display model). When I got it home, I
discovered that they had failed to remove the anti-theft device AND the
demo software.

The device took fifteen minutes to remove and left some kind of chemical
on the plastic shell. Looks normal when dry but when damp has a very
visible square on it.

The demo software only took a couple of minutes to "remove" by
reinstalling the factory default disk image stored somewhere
in the machine (not online). However, it took me at least
ten minutes to figure out how to find that option in the BIOS.

Windows 8 out-of-the-box is usable. I don't like it, but it is usable.

However, I bought this thing for someone who is visually impaired.
But when I turned on any of the accessibility features, the system was
no longer usable. The display was so trashed that I could not turn them
off. Had to use my new found BIOS trick to reinstall everything.


I have Win7 on one machine and I believe it works well. I've XP on this
box and Vista on other computers. I'm going to install Win7 on a
partition in this box when I get a chance. I have 3 hard drives and 7
partitions across the drives in this desktop. I don't have a desktop
with a newer i3 or i5 CPU and something that will take more than 4gb of
memory on the motherboard so I'm looking for a used one. ^_^

TDD

On Fri, 20 Dec 2013 19:16:41 -0600, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

Check
out Decrap, a free software to get factory installed bloatware off a new
laptop. ^_^

http://www.decrap.org/

TDD

Awww, different? From http://www.pcdecrapifier.com/

On 12/20/2013 10:45 PM, Oren wrote:
On Fri, 20 Dec 2013 19:16:41 -0600, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

Check
out Decrap, a free software to get factory installed bloatware off a new
laptop. ^_^

http://www.decrap.org/

TDD

Awww, different? From http://www.pcdecrapifier.com/


There are several freeware programs out there that do a good job of
cleaning bloatware off a new machine, I look for and try them all. ^_^

TDD

On 12/20/2013 12:50 PM, Oren wrote:
TDD,

Have you ever used an OEM Win7 HP product key on a Retail Win7 HP
clean install?

I get different answers and different approaches. Some say no, some
say yes. it will work. Some show how to edit a *.cfg file in an ISO
image, so Windows sees OEM or Retail - so the key can be entered for
activation. Some say skip key entry, and use the phone activation
process.

Friend's laptop has OEM Win7 Home Premium (HP) full of bloat ware.
Want to do a clean install from a retail (Win7 HP) disk ....use the
OEM key. I've extracted the key (BBBBB-BBBBB-BBBBB-BBBBB-BBBBB)
(sample)

Just want to use that key on a new, clean install from a retail disk
or a Win7 HP SP1 slipstream ISO image (authentic from MS)

The slipstream image saves a gozillion downloads before SP1 gets
installed and then another zillion updates to get current.

Hopefully, I'm not too confusing

....or a *good* NG for Windows 7? MS has stopped supporting Usenet
NG's


OEM disto's use a BIOS key. Wrong BIOS key = not gonna work unless you
know what to do.

I can use my Dell distro on pretty much any Dell, circa close to orig.
Date.

On Fri, 20 Dec 2013 17:32:52 -0600, Irreverent Maximus
wrote:

OEM disto's use a BIOS key. Wrong BIOS key = not gonna work unless you
know what to do.


That makes sense. Don't think it applies to an OEM system builder
disk?

I can use my Dell distro on pretty much any Dell, circa close to orig.
Date.

I booted with the retail disk and deleted 4 patricians and have a new
install. Went and got the drivers for the Wifi, connected to the net
and doing updates now...138... more had I not used the SP1 disk.

A couple of other drivers are needed but I know what they are. Widows
disk did not have them. (Audio/Video specific)

Off to the races

Now, hopefully, the OEM key will activate when I tell it to!

On 12/20/2013 6:39 PM, Oren wrote:

I booted with the retail disk and deleted 4 patricians

I am sorry. I had to ROTFLMAO, then reconsider. I think I am
done for today.

I hope they were deleted in the gain of good mamaries.

*cough*

Sorry...

On Fri, 20 Dec 2013 18:59:49 -0600, Irreverent Maximus
wrote:

On 12/20/2013 6:39 PM, Oren wrote:

I booted with the retail disk and deleted 4 patricians

I am sorry. I had to ROTFLMAO, then reconsider. I think I am
done for today.

I hope they were deleted in the gain of good mamaries.

*cough*

Sorry...

Hey! The thing is roclin'. Faster than a whipper snapper.

Oren wrote in news:0rn9b9dgflnk1icbsovk1a77kue4shs46r@
4ax.com:

deleted 4 patricians


Oh, those poor patricians! But then they were rich, so I guess some would
see that as justice served.


Widows disk did not have them.


There's sosmething /all/ widows lack. Poor widows.

I'm going to go away and cry, now.



--
Tegger

On Sat, 21 Dec 2013 01:35:06 +0000 (UTC), Tegger
wrote:

I'm going to go away and cry, now.


Let us know how that works out, okay?

On 12-20-2013, 20:35, Tegger wrote:
Oren wrote in news:0rn9b9dgflnk1icbsovk1a77kue4shs46r@
4ax.com:
deleted 4 patricians

Oh, those poor patricians! But then they were rich, so I guess some would
see that as justice served.

Widows disk did not have them.

There's sosmething /all/ widows lack. Poor widows.

Unless they are patrician widows.


--
Wes Groleau

I won't burn your Koran because I don't want you to burn my Bible;
but if you burn my Bible, no one's going to die.
€” Robert Rhee

"Irreverent Maximus" wrote in message


OEM disto's use a BIOS key. Wrong BIOS key = not gonna
work unless you know what to do.

My Win XP is OEM (unbranded). I've used it on at least two totally
different computers and don't recall having any problem. By "totally
different" I mean different mobo, RAM, HD...everything.

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On 12/21/2013 6:06 AM, dadiOH wrote:

My Win XP is OEM (unbranded). I've used it on at least two totally
different computers and don't recall having any problem. By "totally
different" I mean different mobo, RAM, HD...everything.


Unbranded = awesome.

'specially with serv 3