Hi,

I've been combing this site for information, but I have a question I can't
find an answer for.

Here's our situation -

1. Last friday, we noticed the outside HVAC unit was making a loud
humming/buzzing and the fan wasn't running.

2. We turned it off & on from the inside of the house with no change.
Buzzing stops when outside unit is off, indoor unit blows fine, the thin
copper line was burning hot at the inside unit (didn't check the outside).

3. Started looking here & saw the stick test. Fan moved freely with a
stick, but we still didn't turn it back on for about an hour. In the
meantime, my husband checked the fuses on the disconnect & called his HVAC
buddy who seems to be on vacation.

4. When we put the fuses back in the disconnect & turned it back on,
everything started up fine & it ran good until sometime last night (today
is Tuesday). We had a ton of ran dumped on us last Friday from a tropical
storm & were hoping maybe something got flooded or something & we could
make it until my husband's friend is available.

5. So, today we left it off for about an hour, tried it & it still buzzed.
Fan turns freely with a push. My husband went out to take off the access
panel to pull the capacitor (all rusted up) to get a replacement & decided
to pull the fuse & put it back on one more time just to see. Starts up
like a charm.

He's going to get a new capacitor, new fuses & a new motor (just in case
because with our luck it would run again until next friday night & go out
for good in 100 degree heat) - but I can't understand why pulling those
fuses & putting them back in does anything. Is it just coincidence that we
finally let everything cool off enough?

The outside unit is probably close to 15 years old & the inside unit is
the original with the house (from 1988) so we're due for a whole new
setup, but I'd like to make it through the summer & have the replacement
done in the spring or fall when the outdoor temps are more bearable.

Thanks in advance for your help

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Where exactly in the unit is the buzzing coming from?

On Tuesday, June 11, 2013 11:44:03 AM UTC-4, shadow wrote:
Hi,



I've been combing this site for information, but I have a question I can't

find an answer for.



Here's our situation -



1. Last friday, we noticed the outside HVAC unit was making a loud

humming/buzzing and the fan wasn't running.



2. We turned it off & on from the inside of the house with no change.

Buzzing stops when outside unit is off, indoor unit blows fine, the thin

copper line was burning hot at the inside unit (didn't check the outside)..



3. Started looking here & saw the stick test. Fan moved freely with a

stick, but we still didn't turn it back on for about an hour. In the

meantime, my husband checked the fuses on the disconnect & called his HVAC

buddy who seems to be on vacation.



4. When we put the fuses back in the disconnect & turned it back on,

everything started up fine & it ran good until sometime last night (today

is Tuesday). We had a ton of ran dumped on us last Friday from a tropical

storm & were hoping maybe something got flooded or something & we could

make it until my husband's friend is available.



5. So, today we left it off for about an hour, tried it & it still buzzed..

Fan turns freely with a push. My husband went out to take off the access

panel to pull the capacitor (all rusted up) to get a replacement & decided

to pull the fuse & put it back on one more time just to see. Starts up

like a charm.



He's going to get a new capacitor, new fuses & a new motor (just in case

because with our luck it would run again until next friday night & go out

for good in 100 degree heat) - but I can't understand why pulling those

fuses & putting them back in does anything. Is it just coincidence that we

finally let everything cool off enough?



The outside unit is probably close to 15 years old & the inside unit is

the original with the house (from 1988) so we're due for a whole new

setup, but I'd like to make it through the summer & have the replacement

done in the spring or fall when the outdoor temps are more bearable.



Thanks in advance for your help



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It maybe that there was corrosion buildup in the fuse or disconnect that your husband "fixed" by removing and re-inserting it.

There are two major active components in the outside unit, a compressor and a fan. The compressor raises the refrigerant pressure which also concentrates the heat. The refrigerant then gets circulated through the finned tubing where the air from the fan cools it.

From your description it sounds like the compressor was running and the fan was not. The "buzzing" was probably the compressor. The fact that the small tube coming out of the unit was very hot also indicates that the compressor was running.

The compressor and fan are usually both turned on by on big relay, aka a contactor. The compressor and fan also both have capacitors or sometimes they share what looks like one capacitor that really has two inside it.

I don't generally recommend troubleshooting by replacing parts but if you are going to do that, the capacitor is the most likely suspect part and is also not very expensive. So I would try that first. The fan motor will be a bit pricer so I'd hold off on that. Most places will not take back electrical parts.

On Jun 11, 11:44*am, shadow
wrote:
Hi,

I've been combing this site for information, but I have a question I can't
find an answer for.

Here's our situation -

1. Last friday, we noticed the outside HVAC unit was making a loud
humming/buzzing and the fan wasn't running.

2. We turned it off & on from the inside of the house with no change.
Buzzing stops when outside unit is off, indoor unit blows fine, the thin
copper line was burning hot at the inside unit (didn't check the outside)..

Those symptoms all point to a bad fan motor.





3. Started looking here & saw the stick test. Fan moved freely with a
stick, but we still didn't turn it back on for about an hour. In the
meantime, my husband checked the fuses on the disconnect & called his HVAC
buddy who seems to be on vacation.

4. When we put the fuses back in the disconnect & turned it back on,
everything started up fine & it ran good until sometime last night (today
is Tuesday). We had a ton of ran dumped on us last Friday from a tropical
storm & were hoping maybe something got flooded or something & we could
make it until my husband's friend is available.

5. So, today we left it off for about an hour, tried it & it still buzzed..
Fan turns freely with a push. My husband went out to take off the access
panel to pull the capacitor (all rusted up) to get a replacement & decided
to pull the fuse & put it back on one more time just to see. Starts up
like a charm.

He's going to get a new capacitor, new fuses & a new motor (just in case
because with our luck it would run again until next friday night & go out
for good in 100 degree heat) - but I can't understand why pulling those
fuses & putting them back in does anything. Is it just coincidence that we
finally let everything cool off enough?

It sounds like coincidence. Sometimes with a failing motor, if
you turn it, it may work again......for awhile. Forget about the
capacitor.
Even with the fan going, you reported that the pressure line was hot,
so the buzzing must be the compressor. If the compressor was not
running, you would not have a hot line. The cap is the starting cap
for the compressor. The small motor for the fan, AFAIK, doesn't have
a cap.

I would open it up enough so you can get a meter connected to the
fan motor. If it has 240V and the fan ain't going, you've confirmed
the
problem.




The outside unit is probably close to 15 years old & the inside unit is
the original with the house (from 1988) so we're due for a whole new
setup, but I'd like to make it through the summer & have the replacement
done in the spring or fall when the outdoor temps are more bearable.

Thanks in advance for your help


From what I've heard so far, seems like you should be able to do
that for the cost of a fan motor, which isn't that much.

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Hi,
I've been combing this site for information, but I have a question I can't
find an answer for.

Here's our situation -
1. Last friday, we noticed the outside HVAC unit was making a loud
humming/buzzing and the fan wasn't running.



The buzzing could be comming from a relay that controls the fan. It may be
going bad.

On Jun 11, 4:44*pm, shadow
wrote:
Hi,

I've been combing this site for information, but I have a question I can't
find an answer for.

Here's our situation -

1. Last friday, we noticed the outside HVAC unit was making a loud
humming/buzzing and the fan wasn't running.

2. We turned it off & on from the inside of the house with no change.
Buzzing stops when outside unit is off, indoor unit blows fine, the thin
copper line was burning hot at the inside unit (didn't check the outside)..

3. Started looking here & saw the stick test. Fan moved freely with a
stick, but we still didn't turn it back on for about an hour. In the
meantime, my husband checked the fuses on the disconnect & called his HVAC
buddy who seems to be on vacation.

4. When we put the fuses back in the disconnect & turned it back on,
everything started up fine & it ran good until sometime last night (today
is Tuesday). We had a ton of ran dumped on us last Friday from a tropical
storm & were hoping maybe something got flooded or something & we could
make it until my husband's friend is available.

5. So, today we left it off for about an hour, tried it & it still buzzed..
Fan turns freely with a push. My husband went out to take off the access
panel to pull the capacitor (all rusted up) to get a replacement & decided
to pull the fuse & put it back on one more time just to see. Starts up
like a charm.

He's going to get a new capacitor, new fuses & a new motor (just in case
because with our luck it would run again until next friday night & go out
for good in 100 degree heat) - but I can't understand why pulling those
fuses & putting them back in does anything. Is it just coincidence that we
finally let everything cool off enough?

The outside unit is probably close to 15 years old & the inside unit is
the original with the house (from 1988) so we're due for a whole new
setup, but I'd like to make it through the summer & have the replacement
done in the spring or fall when the outdoor temps are more bearable.

Thanks in advance for your help

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Single phase motors are not self starting, they have an extra winding
with a capacitor in series ans sometimes a centrifugal switch.
It sounds like the start winding/circuit has some sort of intermittant
connection.
There is info here but you need some technical knowledge to understand
it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-...motor#Starting

replying to recyclebinned , shadow wrote:
recyclebinned wrote:

Where exactly in the unit is the buzzing coming from?

I'm not sure - it sounds like the whole thing is buzzing & we didn't want
to power it up with the access panels off. That's a lot of electricity
coming through there.

However, we've had problems with the inside motor doing the same thing -
bad capacitor or motor seized - and it makes about the same sound.

We just switched out the capacitor & turned it back on - big copper pipe
at the air handler already has condensation on it, small pipe is about
room temp.

Only problem is that we have no idea if it's fixed or not since pulling
the quick disconnect outside & reinserting it seems to reset something.
Any ideas on that? It doesn't make any sense to me.



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On Jun 11, 1:44*pm, shadow
wrote:
replying to recyclebinned , shadow wrote:

recyclebinned *wrote:

Where exactly in the unit is the buzzing coming from?

I'm not sure - it sounds like the whole thing is buzzing & we didn't want
to power it up with the access panels off. That's a lot of electricity
coming through there.

OMG, run and hide under the bed!!
If running an AC with the cover off is so frightning,
time to call a pro.

On Jun 11, 12:30*pm, jamesgang wrote:
On Tuesday, June 11, 2013 11:44:03 AM UTC-4, shadow wrote:
Hi,

I've been combing this site for information, but I have a question I can't

find an answer for.

Here's our situation -

1. Last friday, we noticed the outside HVAC unit was making a loud

humming/buzzing and the fan wasn't running.

2. We turned it off & on from the inside of the house with no change.

Buzzing stops when outside unit is off, indoor unit blows fine, the thin

copper line was burning hot at the inside unit (didn't check the outside).

3. Started looking here & saw the stick test. Fan moved freely with a

stick, but we still didn't turn it back on for about an hour. In the

meantime, my husband checked the fuses on the disconnect & called his HVAC

buddy who seems to be on vacation.

4. When we put the fuses back in the disconnect & turned it back on,

everything started up fine & it ran good until sometime last night (today

is Tuesday). We had a ton of ran dumped on us last Friday from a tropical

storm & were hoping maybe something got flooded or something & we could

make it until my husband's friend is available.

5. So, today we left it off for about an hour, tried it & it still buzzed.

Fan turns freely with a push. My husband went out to take off the access

panel to pull the capacitor (all rusted up) to get a replacement & decided

to pull the fuse & put it back on one more time just to see. Starts up

like a charm.

He's going to get a new capacitor, new fuses & a new motor (just in case

because with our luck it would run again until next friday night & go out

for good in 100 degree heat) - but I can't understand why pulling those

fuses & putting them back in does anything. Is it just coincidence that we

finally let everything cool off enough?

The outside unit is probably close to 15 years old & the inside unit is

the original with the house (from 1988) so we're due for a whole new

setup, but I'd like to make it through the summer & have the replacement

done in the spring or fall when the outdoor temps are more bearable.

Thanks in advance for your help

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It maybe that there was corrosion buildup in the fuse or disconnect that your husband "fixed" by removing and re-inserting it.

No because from orignal post, only the fan was not running.
There was "buzzing" and the pressure side line at the air hander
was hot.


There are two major active components in the outside unit, a compressor and a fan. *The compressor raises the refrigerant pressure which also concentrates the heat. *The refrigerant then gets circulated through the finned tubing where the air from the fan cools it.

From your description it sounds like the compressor was running and the fan was not.

No **** sherlock, so why the diversion into corrosion at the
dsconnect?


*The "buzzing" was probably the compressor. *The fact that the small
tube coming out of the unit was very hot also indicates that the
compressor was running.

See above.


The compressor and fan are usually both turned on by on big relay, aka a contactor. *The compressor and fan also both have capacitors or sometimes they share what looks like one capacitor that really has two inside it.

I don't generally recommend troubleshooting by replacing parts but if you are going to do that, the capacitor is the most likely suspect part and is also not very expensive. *So I would try that first. *The fan motor will be a bit pricer so I'd hold off on that. *Most places will not take back electrical parts.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

The capacitor? The freaking fan that is the most likely suspect
doesn't have a cap. Good grief!

On Jun 11, 12:33*pm, "Ralph Mowery"
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Hi,
I've been combing this site for information, but I have a question I can't
find an answer for.

Here's our situation -
1. Last friday, we noticed the outside HVAC unit was making a loud
humming/buzzing and the fan wasn't running.

The buzzing could be comming from a relay that controls the fan. *It may be
going bad.

But more likely, the "buzz" is the compressor running

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I've been combing this site for information, but I have a question I can't
find an answer for.

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The buzzing could be comming from
a relay that controls the fan. It may be
going bad.

On 6/11/2013 1:44 PM, shadow wrote:
replying to recyclebinned , shadow wrote:
recyclebinned wrote:

Where exactly in the unit is the buzzing coming from?

I'm not sure - it sounds like the whole thing is buzzing & we didn't want
to power it up with the access panels off. That's a lot of electricity
coming through there.

However, we've had problems with the inside motor doing the same thing -
bad capacitor or motor seized - and it makes about the same sound.

We just switched out the capacitor & turned it back on - big copper pipe
at the air handler already has condensation on it, small pipe is about
room temp.

Only problem is that we have no idea if it's fixed or not since pulling
the quick disconnect outside & reinserting it seems to reset something.
Any ideas on that? It doesn't make any sense to me.



I am about to have a similar problem. Where can I buy the capacitor?

I don't generally recommend troubleshooting by replacing parts but if you are going to do that, the capacitor is the most likely suspect part and is also not very expensive. *So I would try that first. *The fan motor will be a bit pricer so I'd hold off on that. *Most places will not take back electrical parts.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

The capacitor? * The freaking fan that is the most likely suspect
doesn't have a cap. * Good grief!

trader, you usually give out good info but in this case I'm not so
sure...

the fan motor in my AC definitely does have a running cap so at least
SOME units do have caps for the fan.. neither of us have any way of
knowing specifically about the OPs unit...

OP, can you tell use the make and model number of your AC?

Mark

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I am about to have a similar problem.
Where can I buy the capacitor?

On Tuesday, June 11, 2013 3:56:53 PM UTC-4, Stormin Mormon wrote:
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At least it wasn't tagged on to a usenet thread from 2002 this time... That's progress.

replying to harry , shadow wrote:
Thanks for all the input. Sorry for starting a few arguments.

Our fan motor uses a dual run capacitor. It was all rusty with something
that looked like it could have been a leak to one side. Could also have
been just corrosion on the outside too - hard to say. The unit is at least
13 years old & we've owned the house for 8 years - it's probably all the
original parts because we haven't had any problems with the outside unit
until now. (Yes, I know we're due for an entire replacement - would like
to make it until fall when the temperatures are more comfortable)

I agree that it could also be the fan motor - bought a new one just in
case. Anything more than that, we'll wait for our HVAC friend to get back.

But I'm not ruling out the capacitor alone - on Friday, it was definitely
just the fan not working because the return line was so hot. This morning,
I don't think the compressor was running either because the line was room
temp. To me, that would mean that either the capacitor didn't kick on the
compressor or the compressor overheated & shut off. Again, I'm not a pro.

I was mostly curious about why pulling the disconnect was necessary to
make things start working again. The fuses are old - I bet they're the
originals - but they look OK. None of the copper on either the fuses or
the connections looks corroded or anything.

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replying to harry , shadow wrote:
Thanks for the input.

Our fan is wired to a dual run capacitor - I agree it could be the fan
motor itself, so we bought one just in case. Never hurts to have spare
parts laying around.

I've been reading about the relays & other things that it could be.
Anything more complicated than the capacitor or fan motor probably means
we'll wait for my husband's HVAC pro friend to get back in town.

The capacitor looked awful - rusted to the point you couldn't read the
labeling. The unit is 13+ years old & we've owned the house for 8 years
without needing to make any repairs. I'd bet it was the original part.

I know what the compressor sounds like when it's running - the buzz/hum
was much louder & somewhat different from that. Sounded more like what
happened when the capacitor went bad in our air handler.

As for corrosion in the fuses, the fuses & the relay hardware looks nice,
clean & shiny - although the fuses look pretty old. Our HVAC store didn't
sell those, so we'll buy somewhere else or order.

We probably just need to replace the entire thing since the outdoor unit
is over 13 years old and the inside unit is about 25 years old, but it
would be nice to do it in the fall when the temps are lower.

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On Tuesday, June 11, 2013 2:26:37 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Jun 11, 12:30*pm, jamesgang wrote:

On Tuesday, June 11, 2013 11:44:03 AM UTC-4, shadow wrote:

Hi,



I've been combing this site for information, but I have a question I can't



find an answer for.



Here's our situation -



1. Last friday, we noticed the outside HVAC unit was making a loud



humming/buzzing and the fan wasn't running.



2. We turned it off & on from the inside of the house with no change.



Buzzing stops when outside unit is off, indoor unit blows fine, the thin



copper line was burning hot at the inside unit (didn't check the outside).



3. Started looking here & saw the stick test. Fan moved freely with a



stick, but we still didn't turn it back on for about an hour. In the



meantime, my husband checked the fuses on the disconnect & called his HVAC



buddy who seems to be on vacation.



4. When we put the fuses back in the disconnect & turned it back on,



everything started up fine & it ran good until sometime last night (today



is Tuesday). We had a ton of ran dumped on us last Friday from a tropical



storm & were hoping maybe something got flooded or something & we could



make it until my husband's friend is available.



5. So, today we left it off for about an hour, tried it & it still buzzed.



Fan turns freely with a push. My husband went out to take off the access



panel to pull the capacitor (all rusted up) to get a replacement & decided



to pull the fuse & put it back on one more time just to see. Starts up



like a charm.



He's going to get a new capacitor, new fuses & a new motor (just in case



because with our luck it would run again until next friday night & go out



for good in 100 degree heat) - but I can't understand why pulling those



fuses & putting them back in does anything. Is it just coincidence that we



finally let everything cool off enough?



The outside unit is probably close to 15 years old & the inside unit is



the original with the house (from 1988) so we're due for a whole new



setup, but I'd like to make it through the summer & have the replacement



done in the spring or fall when the outdoor temps are more bearable.



Thanks in advance for your help



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It maybe that there was corrosion buildup in the fuse or disconnect that your husband "fixed" by removing and re-inserting it.



No because from orignal post, only the fan was not running.

There was "buzzing" and the pressure side line at the air hander

was hot.





There are two major active components in the outside unit, a compressor and a fan. *The compressor raises the refrigerant pressure which also concentrates the heat. *The refrigerant then gets circulated through the finned tubing where the air from the fan cools it.



From your description it sounds like the compressor was running and the fan was not.



No **** sherlock, so why the diversion into corrosion at the

dsconnect?





*The "buzzing" was probably the compressor. *The fact that the small

tube coming out of the unit was very hot also indicates that the

compressor was running.



See above.





The compressor and fan are usually both turned on by on big relay, aka a contactor. *The compressor and fan also both have capacitors or sometimes they share what looks like one capacitor that really has two inside it.



I don't generally recommend troubleshooting by replacing parts but if you are going to do that, the capacitor is the most likely suspect part and is also not very expensive. *So I would try that first. *The fan motor will be a bit pricer so I'd hold off on that. *Most places will not take back electrical parts.- Hide quoted text -



- Show quoted text -



The capacitor? The freaking fan that is the most likely suspect

doesn't have a cap. Good grief!

I suggest you do your research a little more carefully. 99% of outdoor units have a dual cap that is for both the fan and the compressor. It may be that you didn't realize the cap was really two caps but if you look at the wiring you will see differently.

On Tuesday, June 11, 2013 4:45:02 PM UTC-4, shadow wrote:
replying to harry , shadow wrote:

Thanks for the input.



Our fan is wired to a dual run capacitor - I agree it could be the fan

motor itself, so we bought one just in case. Never hurts to have spare

parts laying around.



I've been reading about the relays & other things that it could be.

Anything more complicated than the capacitor or fan motor probably means

we'll wait for my husband's HVAC pro friend to get back in town.



The capacitor looked awful - rusted to the point you couldn't read the

labeling. The unit is 13+ years old & we've owned the house for 8 years

without needing to make any repairs. I'd bet it was the original part.



I know what the compressor sounds like when it's running - the buzz/hum

was much louder & somewhat different from that. Sounded more like what

happened when the capacitor went bad in our air handler.



As for corrosion in the fuses, the fuses & the relay hardware looks nice,

clean & shiny - although the fuses look pretty old. Our HVAC store didn't

sell those, so we'll buy somewhere else or order.



We probably just need to replace the entire thing since the outdoor unit

is over 13 years old and the inside unit is about 25 years old, but it

would be nice to do it in the fall when the temps are lower.



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Glad it's working out for you. Hopefully that will take care of you for a while.

The buzz may have been from the fan motor since you are pretty sure it was different from the compressor. The fan motor will still be getting power even though the cap is bad. The dual cap is a common failing item on outside units and is easily the cheapest part to try. I would have held off on buying the spare motor since they are so easy to get but to each his own. The only other significant part outside is the contactor (big fat relay) but when it fails nothing will be running.

Most of the compressors do have internal thermal protection and if overheating for some reason will cycle on and off as that protect kicks in and then the unit cools down.

I you replace it this fall you will most likely be getting the new refrigerant. R410 or "puron" as one company calls it. It will run at a higher pressure. I think school is still out on new equipment service life.

replying to shadow, shadow wrote:
Sorry for the somewhat double post - It took a really long time for my
original response to show up.

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On Jun 11, 3:12*pm, Mark wrote:
I don't generally recommend troubleshooting by replacing parts but if you are going to do that, the capacitor is the most likely suspect part and is also not very expensive. *So I would try that first. *The fan motor will be a bit pricer so I'd hold off on that. *Most places will not take back electrical parts.- Hide quoted text -

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The capacitor? * The freaking fan that is the most likely suspect
doesn't have a cap. * Good grief!

trader, you usually give out good info but in this case I'm not so
sure...

the fan motor in my AC definitely does have a running cap so at least
SOME units do have caps for the fan.. *neither of us have any way of
knowing specifically about the OPs unit...

OP, can you tell use the make and model number of your AC?

Mark

I agree, many cooling fans in the outdoor compressor equipment box do
use a capacitor.

replying to jamesgang , shadow wrote:
jamesgangnc wrote:
I you replace it this fall you will most likely be getting the new
refriger
ant. R410 or "puron" as one company calls it. It will run at a
higher pre
ssure. I think school is still out on new equipment service life.

I was wondering about the service life myself.

A friend has a fairly new home with a high dollar lennox system. He's had
nothing but trouble & is already thinking about replacing it.

Seems like nothing lasts like it used to.

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On Jun 11, 4:12*pm, Mark wrote:
I don't generally recommend troubleshooting by replacing parts but if you are going to do that, the capacitor is the most likely suspect part and is also not very expensive. *So I would try that first. *The fan motor will be a bit pricer so I'd hold off on that. *Most places will not take back electrical parts.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

The capacitor? * The freaking fan that is the most likely suspect
doesn't have a cap. * Good grief!

trader, you usually give out good info but in this case I'm not so
sure...

the fan motor in my AC definitely does have a running cap so at least
SOME units do have caps for the fan.. *neither of us have any way of
knowing specifically about the OPs unit...

OP, can you tell use the make and model number of your AC?

Mark

OK, got that wrong then. I thought only the compressor had a cap.
So, could be either the cap, the motor, or some intermittent wiring
problem.

On Jun 12, 8:11*am, "
wrote:
On Jun 11, 4:12*pm, Mark wrote:





I don't generally recommend troubleshooting by replacing parts but if you are going to do that, the capacitor is the most likely suspect part and is also not very expensive. *So I would try that first. *The fan motor will be a bit pricer so I'd hold off on that. *Most places will not take back electrical parts.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

The capacitor? * The freaking fan that is the most likely suspect
doesn't have a cap. * Good grief!

trader, you usually give out good info but in this case I'm not so
sure...

the fan motor in my AC definitely does have a running cap so at least
SOME units do have caps for the fan.. *neither of us have any way of
knowing specifically about the OPs unit...

OP, can you tell use the make and model number of your AC?

Mark

OK, got that wrong then. *I thought only the compressor had a cap.
So, could be either the cap, the motor, or some intermittent wiring
problem.

try oiling the fan motor if you can

On Wednesday, June 12, 2013 2:21:00 PM UTC-4, bob haller wrote:
On Jun 12, 8:11*am, "

wrote:

On Jun 11, 4:12*pm, Mark wrote:











I don't generally recommend troubleshooting by replacing parts but if you are going to do that, the capacitor is the most likely suspect part and is also not very expensive. *So I would try that first. *The fan motor will be a bit pricer so I'd hold off on that. *Most places will not take back electrical parts.- Hide quoted text -



- Show quoted text -



The capacitor? * The freaking fan that is the most likely suspect

doesn't have a cap. * Good grief!



trader, you usually give out good info but in this case I'm not so

sure...



the fan motor in my AC definitely does have a running cap so at least

SOME units do have caps for the fan.. *neither of us have any way of

knowing specifically about the OPs unit...



OP, can you tell use the make and model number of your AC?



Mark



OK, got that wrong then. *I thought only the compressor had a cap.

So, could be either the cap, the motor, or some intermittent wiring

problem.



try oiling the fan motor if you can

Sadly practically none of them are oilable. While you can greatly extend the life of a motor with periodic oiling less than 1% of the general population is likely to do it on a regular basis.

On Tuesday, June 11, 2013 9:44:01 PM UTC-4, shadow wrote:
replying to jamesgang , shadow wrote:

jamesgangnc wrote:

I you replace it this fall you will most likely be getting the new

refriger

ant. R410 or "puron" as one company calls it. It will run at a

higher pre

ssure. I think school is still out on new equipment service life.



I was wondering about the service life myself.



A friend has a fairly new home with a high dollar lennox system. He's had

nothing but trouble & is already thinking about replacing it.



Seems like nothing lasts like it used to.



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Yep, I have three 1 1/2 ton r22 heat pumps. Two tranes and one goodman. Contrary to the ads the tranes have been more trouble than the goodman. And I have a nearly full can of r22. I'm hoping to keep them running as long as I can :-)

Not many people do maint on their equipment of
any kind, at all. Maybe car oil change, but not much
more than that.
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try oiling the fan motor if you can

Sadly practically none of them are oilable. While you can greatly extend the life of a motor with periodic oiling less than 1% of the general population is likely to do it on a regular basis.

I didn't read this whole thread, but if you're hearing a buzzing noise, try tightening the screws on the outer panels of the unit.

Also, an iron core transformer is essentially an electromagnet that changes it's polarity 60 times per second, and the attraction to and repulsion from any nearby metal panels can cause both the transformer and panel to vibrate. So, tighten any mounting screws or bolts on transformers, too.

Buzzed driving is Drunk driving !!!!

Yeah, the fan hums intermittently. But, can you sing the secone verse of intermittentlly?

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