By small I mean about 12" wide by 16" high. Like this one, but recessed:
http://www.croydex.com/products/380-...l-cabinet.aspx

The problem with searching on small is the cabinet sellers have a different
idea in what is small. They consider ones that are 20-22" wide to be small.
I grew up thinking that 14" wide -- to fit between studs -- was the
standard size and small means smaller than that. But apparently they have
grown quite a bit over the years.

Is anyone aware of a truly small recessed one? The only alternatives I have
a (1) Skip the medicine cabinet and simply mount a mirror on the wall,
or (2) Have a wooden one custom made.

Don. www.donwiss.com (e-mail link at home page bottom).

On 5/27/2013 4:41 PM, Don Wiss wrote:
By small I mean about 12" wide by 16" high. Like this one, but recessed:
http://www.croydex.com/products/380-...l-cabinet.aspx

The problem with searching on small ...

is that it isn't a worthwhile search phrase at all.

....

Searching on "14 wide medicine cabinet" found zillions...

--

On 5/27/2013 5:41 PM, Don Wiss wrote:
By small I mean about 12" wide by 16" high. Like this one, but recessed:

The problem with searching on small is the cabinet sellers have a different
idea in what is small. They consider ones that are 20-22" wide to be small.
I grew up thinking that 14" wide -- to fit between studs -- was the
standard size and small means smaller than that. But apparently they have
grown quite a bit over the years.

Is anyone aware of a truly small recessed one? The only alternatives I have
a (1) Skip the medicine cabinet and simply mount a mirror on the wall,
or (2) Have a wooden one custom made.



Don Wiss my ass

On Mon, 27 May 2013 16:53:55 -0500, dpb wrote:

On 5/27/2013 4:41 PM, Don Wiss wrote:
By small I mean about 12" wide by 16" high. Like this one, but recessed:
http://www.croydex.com/products/380-...l-cabinet.aspx

The problem with searching on small ...

is that it isn't a worthwhile search phrase at all.

...

Searching on "14 wide medicine cabinet" found zillions...

I know zillions exist. The problem is 14" wide is too wide.

Don. www.donwiss.com (e-mail link at home page bottom).

On 5/27/2013 4:59 PM, Don Wiss wrote:
On Mon, 27 May 2013 16:53:55 -0500, wrote:

On 5/27/2013 4:41 PM, Don Wiss wrote:
By small I mean about 12" wide by 16" high. Like this one, but recessed:
http://www.croydex.com/products/380-...l-cabinet.aspx

The problem with searching on small ...

is that it isn't a worthwhile search phrase at all.

...

Searching on "14 wide medicine cabinet" found zillions...

I know zillions exist. The problem is 14" wide is too wide.


For a stud bay???? 16" OC - 1-1/2" -- 14-1/2" RO

Should be just what the cat needed...

--

On 5/27/13 5:41 PM, Don Wiss wrote:
By small I mean about 12" wide by 16" high. Like this one, but recessed:
http://www.croydex.com/products/380-...l-cabinet.aspx

The problem with searching on small is the cabinet sellers have a different
idea in what is small. They consider ones that are 20-22" wide to be small.
I grew up thinking that 14" wide -- to fit between studs -- was the
standard size and small means smaller than that. But apparently they have
grown quite a bit over the years.

Is anyone aware of a truly small recessed one? The only alternatives I have
a (1) Skip the medicine cabinet and simply mount a mirror on the wall,
or (2) Have a wooden one custom made.

Don. www.donwiss.com (e-mail link at home page bottom).



HD has one that 12 wide , but is 36 high. Would that work ??

http://www.homedepot.com/p/NuTone-Pi...2#.UaPetevrkfo

On 5/27/2013 5:29 PM, dpb wrote:
On 5/27/2013 4:59 PM, Don Wiss wrote:
On Mon, 27 May 2013 16:53:55 -0500, wrote:

On 5/27/2013 4:41 PM, Don Wiss wrote:
By small I mean about 12" wide by 16" high. Like this one, but
recessed:
http://www.croydex.com/products/380-...l-cabinet.aspx

The problem with searching on small ...

is that it isn't a worthwhile search phrase at all.

...

Searching on "14 wide medicine cabinet" found zillions...

I know zillions exist. The problem is 14" wide is too wide.


For a stud bay???? 16" OC - 1-1/2" -- 14-1/2" RO

Should be just what the cat needed...

But a search for "12 wide medicine cabinet" found a few less than
zillions...but still several if that's what you really need.

Looks like most popular are 36" tall but Lowes has one from somebody
called Nameek that's 18"


Nameeks 11-7/8-in W Recessed Medicine Cabinet

Item #: 432297 | Model #: GEDY 8007-02

Collection Name Lilliput
Total Width (Inches) 11.8
Total Height (Inches) 17.7
Depth (Inches) 5.6
Finish Type White
Manufacturer Color Name White
Color/Finish Family White
Interior Color Matches exterior
Cabinet Material Plastic
Adjustable Shelving No
Shelf Material Plastic
Door Type Single with mirror
Beveled Mirror No
Lights No
Number Bulbs Required 0.0
Bulbs Included No
Decorative Hardware Included No
Mounting Hardware Included Yes
....

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On Mon, 27 May 2013 18:37:17 -0400, Retired wrote:

On 5/27/13 5:41 PM, Don Wiss wrote:
By small I mean about 12" wide by 16" high. Like this one, but recessed:
http://www.croydex.com/products/380-...l-cabinet.aspx

The problem with searching on small is the cabinet sellers have a different
idea in what is small. They consider ones that are 20-22" wide to be small.
I grew up thinking that 14" wide -- to fit between studs -- was the
standard size and small means smaller than that. But apparently they have
grown quite a bit over the years.

Is anyone aware of a truly small recessed one? The only alternatives I have
a (1) Skip the medicine cabinet and simply mount a mirror on the wall,
or (2) Have a wooden one custom made.

HD has one that 12 wide , but is 36 high. Would that work ??

http://www.homedepot.com/p/NuTone-Pi...4WHG/202875192

I saw those. Absolutely not.

Don. www.donwiss.com (e-mail link at home page bottom).

On Mon, 27 May 2013 17:37:51 -0500, dpb wrote:

Looks like most popular are 36" tall but Lowes has one from somebody
called Nameek that's 18"

Nameeks 11-7/8-in W Recessed Medicine Cabinet

Item #: 432297 | Model #: GEDY 8007-02

Nice little cabinet, except it is a surface mount according to the
manufacturer's page:
http://www.nameeks.com/product/Medic...y-8007-02.html

The sink only projects 8 3/4" and I don't want a protruding cabinet looming
over the sink.

I think what I want does not exist. Obviously I'm not going to be fitting
it between studs, which aren't going to be spaced exactly where the sink
will be. I would have to build a frame in the wall.

I think I'll give up and simply mount a mirror. This is a tiny powder room
and I don't need to store condoms, cups, aspirin, anti-acid, tampons, etc.

Don. www.donwiss.com (e-mail link at home page bottom).

Don,

Look at the picture, then look at the dimensions. That cabinet is not
sticking out 5.6". It must be recessed.

Dave M.

On 5/27/2013 5:53 PM, Don Wiss wrote:
On Mon, 27 May 2013 17:37:51 -0500, wrote:

Looks like most popular are 36" tall but Lowes has one from somebody
called Nameek that's 18"

Nameeks 11-7/8-in W Recessed Medicine Cabinet

Item #: 432297 | Model #: GEDY 8007-02

Nice little cabinet, except it is a surface mount according to the
manufacturer's page:
http://www.nameeks.com/product/Medic...y-8007-02.html

The sink only projects 8 3/4" and I don't want a protruding cabinet looming
over the sink.

I think what I want does not exist. Obviously I'm not going to be fitting
it between studs, which aren't going to be spaced exactly where the sink
will be. I would have to build a frame in the wall.

I think I'll give up and simply mount a mirror. This is a tiny powder room
and I don't need to store condoms, cups, aspirin, anti-acid, tampons, etc.

What's to keep from making the bay where it needs be?

The info at Lowe's where found it indicates it's recessed albeit the
other page doesn't. Doesn't look like it would take anything but a
drill and few white-head cabinet-mounting screws to make it recessed,
though.

Can't believe a more exhaustive search wouldn't find quite a few others.

--

On 5/27/13 4:41 PM, Don Wiss wrote:
By small I mean about 12" wide by 16" high. Like this one, but recessed:
http://www.croydex.com/products/380-...l-cabinet.aspx

The problem with searching on small is the cabinet sellers have a different
idea in what is small. They consider ones that are 20-22" wide to be small.
I grew up thinking that 14" wide -- to fit between studs -- was the
standard size and small means smaller than that. But apparently they have
grown quite a bit over the years.

Is anyone aware of a truly small recessed one? The only alternatives I have
a (1) Skip the medicine cabinet and simply mount a mirror on the wall,
or (2) Have a wooden one custom made.

Don. www.donwiss.com (e-mail link at home page bottom).

Some here at Amazon: http://tinyurl.com/plzs77m

The ones I glanced at are fairly tall though.

Don Wiss wrote:
On Mon, 27 May 2013 18:37:17 -0400, Retired wrote:

On 5/27/13 5:41 PM, Don Wiss wrote:
By small I mean about 12" wide by 16" high. Like this one, but recessed:
http://www.croydex.com/products/380-...l-cabinet.aspx

The problem with searching on small is the cabinet sellers have a different
idea in what is small. They consider ones that are 20-22" wide to be small.
I grew up thinking that 14" wide -- to fit between studs -- was the
standard size and small means smaller than that. But apparently they have
grown quite a bit over the years.

Is anyone aware of a truly small recessed one? The only alternatives I have
a (1) Skip the medicine cabinet and simply mount a mirror on the wall,
or (2) Have a wooden one custom made.

HD has one that 12 wide , but is 36 high. Would that work ??

http://www.homedepot.com/p/NuTone-Pi...4WHG/202875192

I saw those. Absolutely not.

Don. www.donwiss.com (e-mail link at home page bottom).

You must live alone. A wife would fill that up with all her stuff,
leaving you a small portion down in the corner for a few things of
yours. damhik.:-)

--
Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
To email, remove the double zeros after @

On Mon, 27 May 2013 20:08:01 -0400, willshak wrote:

Don Wiss wrote:
On Mon, 27 May 2013 18:37:17 -0400, Retired wrote:
HD has one that 12 wide , but is 36 high. Would that work ??

http://www.homedepot.com/p/NuTone-Pi...4WHG/202875192

I saw those. Absolutely not.

You must live alone. A wife would fill that up with all her stuff,
leaving you a small portion down in the corner for a few things of
yours. damhik.:-)

This is for a tiny powder room on the parlor floor. About 25" x 45". The
ceiling is very high though.

The main reason to have it at all is home buyers expect a bathroom on every
floor. And some day the house will be sold.

And we have already discussed what I could put in it for party guests or
workmen. But none are essential.

Don. www.donwiss.com (e-mail link at home page bottom).

On Mon, 27 May 2013 18:35:30 -0500, dpb wrote:

On 5/27/2013 5:53 PM, Don Wiss wrote:
On Mon, 27 May 2013 17:37:51 -0500, wrote:

Looks like most popular are 36" tall but Lowes has one from somebody
called Nameek that's 18"

Nameeks 11-7/8-in W Recessed Medicine Cabinet

Item #: 432297 | Model #: GEDY 8007-02

Nice little cabinet, except it is a surface mount according to the
manufacturer's page:
http://www.nameeks.com/product/Medic...y-8007-02.html

The sink only projects 8 3/4" and I don't want a protruding cabinet looming
over the sink.

I think what I want does not exist. Obviously I'm not going to be fitting
it between studs, which aren't going to be spaced exactly where the sink
will be. I would have to build a frame in the wall.

I think I'll give up and simply mount a mirror. This is a tiny powder room
and I don't need to store condoms, cups, aspirin, anti-acid, tampons, etc.

What's to keep from making the bay where it needs be?

Nothing.

The info at Lowe's where found it indicates it's recessed albeit the
other page doesn't.

The Croydex that I started the thread with also has incorrect information
at the Wayfair site claiming it is recessed.

Doesn't look like it would take anything but a
drill and few white-head cabinet-mounting screws to make it recessed,
though.

True. But that, and the Croydex, don't have the mirror or a lip protruding
past the box. So one would have to have a very clean edge around the hole.

Can't believe a more exhaustive search wouldn't find quite a few others.

I have looked. As I wrote above, because it wouldn't fit between studs the
manufacturers assume that there is no market for such a product.

Don. www.donwiss.com (e-mail link at home page bottom).

Don Wiss wrote:
On Mon, 27 May 2013 20:08:01 -0400, willshak wrote:

Don Wiss wrote:
On Mon, 27 May 2013 18:37:17 -0400, Retired wrote:
HD has one that 12 wide , but is 36 high. Would that work ??

http://www.homedepot.com/p/NuTone-Pi...4WHG/202875192
I saw those. Absolutely not.

You must live alone. A wife would fill that up with all her stuff,
leaving you a small portion down in the corner for a few things of
yours. damhik.:-)

This is for a tiny powder room on the parlor floor. About 25" x 45". The
ceiling is very high though.

The main reason to have it at all is home buyers expect a bathroom on every
floor. And some day the house will be sold.

And we have already discussed what I could put in it for party guests or
workmen. But none are essential.

Don. www.donwiss.com (e-mail link at home page bottom).


My 'powder room' on the main floor has a corner cabinet above the corner
sink similar to this one, but I built my own.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/q9pyv3y
Could you use one of these?

--
Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
To email, remove the double zeros after @

On May 27, 7:31*pm, Don Wiss wrote:
On Mon, 27 May 2013 18:35:30 -0500, dpb wrote:
On 5/27/2013 5:53 PM, Don Wiss wrote:
On Mon, 27 May 2013 17:37:51 -0500, *wrote:

Looks like most popular are 36" tall but Lowes has one from somebody
called Nameek that's 18"

Nameeks 11-7/8-in W Recessed Medicine Cabinet

Item #: 432297 | *Model #: GEDY 8007-02

Nice little cabinet, except it is a surface mount according to the
manufacturer's page:
http://www.nameeks.com/product/Medic...y-8007-02.html

The sink only projects 8 3/4" and I don't want a protruding cabinet looming
over the sink.

I think what I want does not exist. Obviously I'm not going to be fitting
it between studs, which aren't going to be spaced exactly where the sink
will be. I would have to build a frame in the wall.

I think I'll give up and simply mount a mirror. This is a tiny powder room
and I don't need to store condoms, cups, aspirin, anti-acid, tampons, etc.

What's to keep from making the bay where it needs be?

Nothing.

The info at Lowe's where found it indicates it's recessed albeit the
other page doesn't.

The Croydex that I started the thread with also has incorrect information
at the Wayfair site claiming it is recessed.

Doesn't look like it would take anything but a
drill and few white-head cabinet-mounting screws to make it recessed,
though.

True. But that, and the Croydex, don't have the mirror or a lip protruding
past the box. So one would have to have a very clean edge around the hole..

Can't believe a more exhaustive search wouldn't find quite a few others.

I have looked. As I wrote above, because it wouldn't fit between studs the
manufacturers assume that there is no market for such a product.

Don.www.donwiss.com(e-mail link at home page bottom).- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I don't understand why any surface mount cabinet cannot be recessed.
All you have to do is drill some holes on the sides and then shim the
opening to center the cabinet in the space between whatever stud
widths you have. I've done it a few times and no big problem if you
can drill 4 holes and measure to the nearest 1/16". A few pieces of
1/4 round around the opening will cover any mistakes you make in
measuringg. Done that also.

On Mon, 27 May 2013 20:49:23 -0400, willshak wrote:

My 'powder room' on the main floor has a corner cabinet above the corner
sink similar to this one, but I built my own.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/q9pyv3y
Could you use one of these?

There is a chase in the corner.

Don. www.donwiss.com (e-mail link at home page bottom).

On 27 May 2013, " wrote:

I don't understand why any surface mount cabinet cannot be recessed.
All you have to do is drill some holes on the sides and then shim the
opening to center the cabinet in the space between whatever stud
widths you have. I've done it a few times and no big problem if you
can drill 4 holes and measure to the nearest 1/16". A few pieces of
1/4 round around the opening will cover any mistakes you make in
measuringg. Done that also.

Okay. I'll see if the architect goes along.

While this thread was developing I've been looking at lights for the room.
All I need is something over the mirror. I'm into minimalism. I like this
one:

http://www.lightingdirect.com/alico-...ction/p1472371

Though this would go better with the fixtures, which have cylindrical
shapes:

http://www.lightingdirect.com/moen-d...ction/p1748179

Don. www.donwiss.com (e-mail link at home page bottom).

On May 27, 10:41*pm, Don Wiss wrote:
By small I mean about 12" wide by 16" high. Like this one, but recessed:http://www.croydex.com/products/380-...l-cabinet.aspx

The problem with searching on small is the cabinet sellers have a different
idea in what is small. They consider ones that are 20-22" wide to be small.
I grew up thinking that 14" wide -- to fit between studs -- was the
standard size and small means smaller than that. But apparently they have
grown quite a bit over the years.

Is anyone aware of a truly small recessed one? The only alternatives I have
a (1) Skip the medicine cabinet and simply mount a mirror on the wall,
or (2) Have a wooden one custom made.

Don.www.donwiss.com(e-mail link at home page bottom).Ads not by this site

Americans need large medicine cabinets because of all the pills they
need for their numerous mental problems.

On 5/27/2013 9:22 PM, Don Wiss wrote:
On 27 May 2013, "hrhofmann@sbcglobal. net wrote:

I don't understand why any surface mount cabinet cannot be recessed.
All you have to do is drill some holes on the sides and then shim the
opening to center the cabinet in the space between whatever stud
widths you have. I've done it a few times and no big problem if you
can drill 4 holes and measure to the nearest 1/16". A few pieces of
1/4 round around the opening will cover any mistakes you make in
measuringg. Done that also.

Precisely. +1

Okay. I'll see if the architect goes along.

....

Goes along???? Who's working for whom, here????

--

On 5/28/2013 9:19 AM, dpb wrote:
On 5/27/2013 9:22 PM, Don Wiss wrote:
On 27 May 2013, "hrhofmann@sbcglobal. net wrote:

I don't understand why any surface mount cabinet cannot be recessed.
All you have to do is drill some holes on the sides and then shim the
opening to center the cabinet in the space between whatever stud
widths you have. I've done it a few times and no big problem if you
can drill 4 holes and measure to the nearest 1/16". A few pieces of
1/4 round around the opening will cover any mistakes you make in
measuringg. Done that also.

Precisely. +1
....

Oh, I'd add that depending on how it's built and what it's made of, it
may be necessary to add a cleat or "shelf" for it to set on and then the
side screws are only for rigidity. I think it's desirable to do so
whether mandatory or not...

As Mr Hofmann says he's done it, we did this quite a lot in the old
retrofits/refurbs did in Lynchburg of old Federals that had no such
amenities originally at all in them. Most had been sorely abused as
apartments or college student rental rooms for many years before we got
them, unfortunately.

Generally if tiled or other wall treatments it's pretty trivial to dress
them up. If it is just sheetrock and painted or such, w/ good
craftsmanship and a straight edge all it takes for invisible is a small
caulk bead and a steady hand w/ the paint brush.

If necessary, as stated, a moulding can be used or can be made a feature.

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On May 28, 9:27*am, dpb wrote:
On 5/28/2013 9:19 AM, dpb wrote: On 5/27/2013 9:22 PM, Don Wiss wrote:
On 27 May 2013, "hrhofm...@sbcglobal. net wrote:

I don't understand why any surface mount cabinet cannot be recessed.
All you have to do is drill some holes on the sides and then shim the
opening to center the cabinet in the space between whatever stud
widths you have. I've done it a few times and no big problem if you
can drill 4 holes and measure to the nearest 1/16". A few pieces of
1/4 round around the opening will cover any mistakes you make in
measuringg. Done that also.

Precisely. +1

...

Oh, I'd add that depending on how it's built and what it's made of, it
may be necessary to add a cleat or "shelf" for it to set on and then the
side screws are only for rigidity. *I think it's desirable to do so
whether mandatory or not...

As Mr Hofmann says he's done it, we did this quite a lot in the old
retrofits/refurbs did in Lynchburg of old Federals that had no such
amenities originally at all in them. *Most had been sorely abused as
apartments or college student rental rooms for many years before we got
them, unfortunately.

Generally if tiled or other wall treatments it's pretty trivial to dress
them up. *If it is just sheetrock and painted or such, w/ good
craftsmanship and a straight edge all it takes for invisible is a small
caulk bead and a steady hand w/ the paint brush.

If necessary, as stated, a moulding can be used or can be made a feature.

--

Thanks for reinforcing my comments, this seems so trivial a thing to
do.

On 5/28/2013 11:53 AM, wrote:
....

Thanks for reinforcing my comments, this seems so trivial a thing to
do.

No problem--seems that way to me, too.

The last point to add for OP is that the only kicker at all is that it
has to have enough setout for the back edge of the door to clear the
_finished_ wall surface--don't set it flush to a wall forgetting there's
tile to come or somesuch (DAMHIK[toremindof]T, BTW. )

That means that do want to avoid a cabinet w/ a very large door size viz
z viz the cabinet so there's a lot of overhang (say in order to have a
larger mirror than would be normal given the cabinet size would be
obvious cause for the issue)

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