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Is there a 'magic' solution for dissolving labels on glassware?
Just curious, as my current 'magic solution' is water - but maybe
there is a better medium for dissolving glued paper labels on glass bottles for kitchen reuse? http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/.../12890207.jpeg My current technique: a. Soak for a day or two in water b. Scrape with a kitchen fork c. Repeat until the label is gone |
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On May 9, 10:32*am, Danny D wrote:
Just curious, as my current 'magic solution' is water - but maybe there is a better medium for dissolving glued paper labels on glass bottles for kitchen reuse? *http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/.../12890207.jpeg My current technique: a. Soak for a day or two in water b. Scrape with a kitchen fork c. Repeat until the label is gone Just scrape off with a utility knife then clean up any glue residue with Goo-Gone. |
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Is there a 'magic' solution for dissolving labels on glassware?
On 05/09/13 01:32 pm, Danny D wrote:
Just curious, as my current 'magic solution' is water - but maybe there is a better medium for dissolving glued paper labels on glass bottles for kitchen reuse? http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/.../12890207.jpeg My current technique: a. Soak for a day or two in water b. Scrape with a kitchen fork c. Repeat until the label is gone Depends what kind of "glue." If the adhesive is gum -- the kind of labels you lick before putting them in place, water should work. If they are self-adhesive labels -- the kind where you peel them off a backing sheet, Goo Gone usually works well. Perce |
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Is there a 'magic' solution for dissolving labels on glassware?
On Thu, 09 May 2013 13:45:15 -0400, "Percival P. Cassidy"
wrote: If they are self-adhesive labels -- the kind where you peel them off a backing sheet, Goo Gone usually works well. .... if they are a vehicle tag sticker, fugittbouit Peeled off the registration sheet, stuck for ever on the tag |
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Is there a 'magic' solution for dissolving labels on glassware?
On Thu, 9 May 2013 17:32:01 +0000 (UTC), Danny D
wrote: Just curious, as my current 'magic solution' is water - but maybe there is a better medium for dissolving glued paper labels on glass bottles for kitchen reuse? http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/.../12890207.jpeg My current technique: a. Soak for a day or two in water b. Scrape with a kitchen fork c. Repeat until the label is gone Try peanut butter, smooth not crunchy. Cover the label with a thin coat. Allow the paper label to absorb the peanut oil - it will come off. |
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Oren wrote:
Try peanut butter, smooth not crunchy. Cover the label with a thin coat. Allow the paper label to absorb the peanut oil - it will come off. What a coincidence, I use the seeds oil I have on hand which is always peanut oil -- "Un pasto senza vino e' come un giorno senza sole" Anthelme Brillat Savarin |
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On May 9, 12:32 pm, Danny D wrote:
Just curious, as my current 'magic solution' is water - but maybe there is a better medium for dissolving glued paper labels on glass bottles for kitchen reuse? http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/.../12890207.jpeg My current technique: a. Soak for a day or two in water b. Scrape with a kitchen fork c. Repeat until the label is gone Each manufacturer seems to use a different glue. I also save jars for refrigerator use, but I prefer the plastic one since, if dropped, they rarely break and I am able to put them in the freezer section for long term without worrying about them cracking and putting glass shards in the contents.... I generally follow this procedu 1) First, totally immerse in water for a couple hours. Lots of labels, such as the ones on some instant coffee jars, will then easily scrape off with a fingernail or spatula. 2) I then try rubbing alcohol. It works on some, but it just depends on the glue. 3) I then try gasoline. This usually works on anything that 1 and 2 won't handle, but it is smelly and takes time to air out the kitchen... Do it in the garage.. or porch.. 4) If all else fails, and I am bound and determined to save the container, I just glue a white label over the existing one and write "Soup" or "Gravy" or something on it ..... Hint: While plastic is good for the freezer, don't use the microwave to heat up the contents. The innards get hot, and then it melts the plastic. Use glass for the microwave, and remember to take the metal top off as well as any metal ring that may be around the rim of the jar. Either can be use in the regular refrigerator part. No glass in freezer, no plastic in microwave.... Just my own experience. Maybe you can find some of it useful. |
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Is there a 'magic' solution for dissolving labels on glassware?
Danny D wrote:
Just curious, as my current 'magic solution' is water - but maybe there is a better medium for dissolving glued paper labels on glass bottles for kitchen reuse? http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/.../12890207.jpeg My current technique: a. Soak for a day or two in water b. Scrape with a kitchen fork c. Repeat until the label is gone scratch the surface then apply WD 40 |
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On May 9, 1:16*pm, "ChairMan" wrote:
Danny D wrote: Just curious, as my current 'magic solution' is water - but maybe there is a better medium for dissolving glued paper labels on glass bottles for kitchen reuse? http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/.../12890207.jpeg My current technique: a. Soak for a day or two in water b. Scrape with a kitchen fork c. Repeat until the label is gone scratch the surface then apply WD 40 Scratch the surface, and moisten with a naptha-soaked rag (in a well- ventilated area). |
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Is there a 'magic' solution for dissolving labels on glassware?
"Danny D" wrote in message ... Just curious, as my current 'magic solution' is water - but maybe there is a better medium for dissolving glued paper labels on glass bottles for kitchen reuse? http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/.../12890207.jpeg My current technique: a. Soak for a day or two in water b. Scrape with a kitchen fork c. Repeat until the label is gone Some use hot melt to apply paper labels, water may remove the paper but I don't know what will remove the hot melt except heat. |
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In eb.com,
EXT belched: "Danny D" wrote in message ... Just curious, as my current 'magic solution' is water - but maybe there is a better medium for dissolving glued paper labels on glass bottles for kitchen reuse? http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/.../12890207.jpeg My current technique: a. Soak for a day or two in water b. Scrape with a kitchen fork c. Repeat until the label is gone Some use hot melt to apply paper labels, water may remove the paper but I don't know what will remove the hot melt except heat. naptha/lighter fluid will remove hot glue |
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Is there a 'magic' solution for dissolving labels on glassware?
Danny D wrote:
Just curious, as my current 'magic solution' is water - but maybe there is a better medium for dissolving glued paper labels on glass bottles for kitchen reuse? http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/.../12890207.jpeg My current technique: a. Soak for a day or two in water b. Scrape with a kitchen fork c. Repeat until the label is gone Soak. Put hot water in the jar to soften the glue. Scrape with a single-edge razor blade. Turtlewax Bug and Tar Remover is good for getting glue residue off. Beer and wine bottle labels will usually come off cleanly after a soak in a bucket of cold water with a little ammonia added. Bob |
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Is there a 'magic' solution for dissolving labels on glassware?
On May 9, 1:32*pm, Danny D wrote:
Just curious, as my current 'magic solution' is water - but maybe there is a better medium for dissolving glued paper labels on glass bottles for kitchen reuse? *http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/.../12890207.jpeg My current technique: a. Soak for a day or two in water b. Scrape with a kitchen fork c. Repeat until the label is gone Vegetable oil on a paper kitchen towel will remove most sticky residues. If this does not work completely, take most of the rest off with a fingernail and then try the vegetable oil again. I've had to work a few times but never had a failure. This works on other sticky labels such as those on computers and car windows. http://www.richardfisher.com |
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Is there a 'magic' solution for dissolving labels on glassware?
On Thu, 09 May 2013 11:43:37 -0700, Helpful person wrote:
Vegetable oil on a paper kitchen towel The oil idea did a good job on the sticky residue of this vinegar bottle today: http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/12891313.jpg And, the water did well for these seasoning jar labels: http://www3.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/12891316.jpg But, the real test will be this plastic vitamin bottle label: http://www3.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/12891321.jpg |
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On May 9, 12:27*pm, Danny D wrote:
On Thu, 09 May 2013 11:43:37 -0700, Helpful person wrote: Vegetable oil on a paper kitchen towel The oil idea did a good job on the sticky residue of this vinegar bottle today: *http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/12891313.jpg And, the water did well for these seasoning jar labels: *http://www3.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/12891316.jpg But, the real test will be this plastic vitamin bottle label: *http://www3.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/12891321.jpg You don't get out much do ya? |
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Is there a 'magic' solution for dissolving labels on glassware?
On 05/09/2013 10:32 AM, Danny D wrote:
Just curious, as my current 'magic solution' is water - but maybe there is a better medium for dissolving glued paper labels on glass bottles for kitchen reuse? http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/.../12890207.jpeg My current technique: a. Soak for a day or two in water b. Scrape with a kitchen fork c. Repeat until the label is gone If you are using water, add a little dish detergent to the mix. This will ad a surfactant, which reduces the surface tension of the water and enables it to penetrate significantly faster. Jon |
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On Thu, 09 May 2013 12:27:14 -0700, Jon Danniken wrote:
If you are using water, add a little dish detergent to the mix. That's a great idea. The alcohol could be a wetting agent with the dish-detergent surfactant adding to the effect! The true test will be on the plastic vitamin jar! |
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On Thu, 09 May 2013 17:32:01 +0000, Danny D wrote:
EXPERIMENT IN PROGRESS: I am soaking the tough jobs in the suggested solutions, as we speak ... (Note: the gasoline & WD40 are omitted due to the fact that we want to re-use the jars!). Here are the three experiments + one control: http://www3.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/12891481.jpg I poured alcohol on the top left; dish detergent at top right; and olive oil in the foreground; with water in the circular tub to the right as the experimental control. Then I filled each container with water and let sit: http://www3.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/12891546.jpg Note that everything I've tried in the past has failed on these plastic vitamin and peanut butter jars; so it will be interesting to see what happens in a day or two. |
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Danny D wrote:
On Thu, 09 May 2013 17:32:01 +0000, Danny D wrote: EXPERIMENT IN PROGRESS: I am soaking the tough jobs in the suggested solutions, as we speak ... (Note: the gasoline & WD40 are omitted due to the fact that we want to re-use the jars!). Here are the three experiments + one control: http://www3.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/12891481.jpg I poured alcohol on the top left; dish detergent at top right; and olive oil in the foreground; with water in the circular tub to the right as the experimental control. Then I filled each container with water and let sit: http://www3.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/12891546.jpg Note that everything I've tried in the past has failed on these plastic vitamin and peanut butter jars; so it will be interesting to see what happens in a day or two. Peanut butter jars? Why didn't you say so! (those are my favorite jars for reuse -- I store bullets in them for reloading) I thought you were talking about glass jars. Fill the jar with hot water, let it sit for a minute so the heat can loosen the glue, then carefully peel off the label. Most of the glue will come off with the label. You can then use "Bug and Tar Remover" or "Goo Gone" to clean off the residue. Orange-based cleaner or turpentine would probably work too. -- HTH, Bob |
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On 5/9/2013 4:24 PM, zxcvbob wrote:
Fill the jar with hot water, let it sit for a minute so the heat can loosen the glue, then carefully peel off the label. Most of the glue will come off with the label. You can then use "Bug and Tar Remover" or "Goo Gone" to clean off the residue. Orange-based cleaner or turpentine would probably work too. +1 |
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On Thu, 09 May 2013 15:24:46 -0500, zxcvbob
wrote: turpentine would probably work too. + 1 |
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On 5/9/2013 3:24 PM, zxcvbob wrote:
Danny D wrote: On Thu, 09 May 2013 17:32:01 +0000, Danny D wrote: EXPERIMENT IN PROGRESS: I am soaking the tough jobs in the suggested solutions, as we speak ... (Note: the gasoline & WD40 are omitted due to the fact that we want to re-use the jars!). Here are the three experiments + one control: http://www3.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/12891481.jpg I poured alcohol on the top left; dish detergent at top right; and olive oil in the foreground; with water in the circular tub to the right as the experimental control. Then I filled each container with water and let sit: http://www3.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/12891546.jpg Note that everything I've tried in the past has failed on these plastic vitamin and peanut butter jars; so it will be interesting to see what happens in a day or two. Peanut butter jars? Why didn't you say so! (those are my favorite jars for reuse -- I store bullets in them for reloading) I thought you were talking about glass jars. I believe the OP is writing about glass jars but I like the plastic unbreakable peanut butter jars for hardware because they can get dropped and tossed around the van without glass and parts flying. ^_^ TDD |
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On Thu, 09 May 2013 19:35:51 -0500, The Daring Dufas wrote:
I believe the OP is writing about glass jars but I like the plastic unbreakable peanut butter jars for hardware because they can get dropped and tossed around the van without glass and parts flying. ^_^ Actually, my mistake for changing jars in the middle of the thread! http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/12893328.jpg I started with glass, but they were so easy to remove the labels I then moved on to the muuuuch-harder-to-remove plastics vitamin jars with paper glued on labels. The plastic vitamin jars have been soaking in the recommended solutions for the past five or six hours or so: 1. Oil (doesn't look good so far) 2. Soap (looks pretty good) 3. Alcohol (seems the same as the control) 4. Water (the control) Also I have a peanut-butter jar soaking in water, but, it appears to have a plastic label, and not paper like the vitamin jars - so - it's an anomaly. I'll report back tomorrow ... |
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"zxcvbob" Peanut butter jars? Why didn't you say so! (those are my favorite jars for reuse -- I store bullets in them for reloading) I thought you were talking about glass jars. Fill the jar with hot water, let it sit for a minute so the heat can loosen the glue, then carefully peel off the label. Most of the glue will come off with the label. You can then use "Bug and Tar Remover" or "Goo Gone" to clean off the residue. Orange-based cleaner or turpentine would probably work too. Storing bullets? I had no idea. I'll give one to Mr. Esther. Peanut butter jars are also fun for a toddler just learning how to open things. A ping-pong ball ( or a frog) inside a peanut butter jar makes learning to twist a lid big fun. |
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On 05/09/2013 08:23 PM, Polly Esther wrote:
Storing bullets? I had no idea. I'll give one to Mr. Esther. Peanut butter jars are also fun for a toddler just learning how to open things. A ping-pong ball ( or a frog) inside a peanut butter jar makes learning to twist a lid big fun. As an aside, octopi have learned to open screw-top jars. -- Cheers, Bev ---------------------------------------------- "Luge strategy? Lie flat and try not to die." -- Carmen Boyle Olympic Luge Gold Medal winner - 1996 |
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On May 10, 2:12 am, The Real Bev wrote:
As an aside, octopi have learned to open screw-top jars. -- Cheers, Bev Yes, but the ping pong balls float to the top of the ocean, and they become sad..... |
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On 5/9/2013 12:32 PM, Danny D wrote:
Just curious, as my current 'magic solution' is water - but maybe there is a better medium for dissolving glued paper labels on glass bottles for kitchen reuse? http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/.../12890207.jpeg My current technique: a. Soak for a day or two in water b. Scrape with a kitchen fork c. Repeat until the label is gone Try lighter fluid, then wash with soapy water. Another 'fix' would be to add and dissolve "dishwasher" soap (the dry, crystal sort) to a bowl of water and soak the glass container with the label in that solution for a few hours, then the label peels off easily and quickly. However, the lighter fluid may be needed to remove the gluey residue. Sky -- Ultra Ultimate Kitchen Rule - Use the Timer! Ultimate Kitchen Rule -- Cook's Choice!! |
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Danny D wrote:
Just curious, as my current 'magic solution' is water - You want GooGone. Supermarkets, home centers, maybe even chain drugstores. |
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On Thu, 9 May 2013 17:32:01 +0000 (UTC), Danny D
wrote: Just curious Paper labels on glass generally disappear in a dishwasher, if not a safety razor always works. |
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On Thu, 09 May 2013 17:03:23 -0400, Brooklyn1
wrote: On Thu, 9 May 2013 17:32:01 +0000 (UTC), Danny D wrote: Just curious Paper labels on glass generally disappear in a dishwasher, if not a safety razor always works. Glass bottles can be brought to a boil & simmer in a pot on the stove. "Stuff" comes off. |
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On 5/9/2013 12:32 PM, Danny D wrote:
Just curious, as my current 'magic solution' is water - but maybe there is a better medium for dissolving glued paper labels on glass bottles for kitchen reuse? http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/.../12890207.jpeg My current technique: a. Soak for a day or two in water b. Scrape with a kitchen fork c. Repeat until the label is gone Use a hair dryer to blow hot air onto the label. This will loosen the glue so you can peel it off. If there is any glue residue, use Goo Gone. Long time ago my first husband worked for a discount shoe store chain that put labels on the sole of the shoes. They had those 'x' cuts and were almost impossible to remove. Someone told him about the hair dryer method and I've used it successfully ever since. -- Janet Wilder Way-the-heck-south Texas Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does. |
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On 5/9/2013 5:57 PM, Janet Wilder wrote:
Long time ago my first husband worked for a discount shoe store chain that put labels on the sole of the shoes. They had those 'x' cuts and were almost impossible to remove. Someone told him about the hair dryer method and I've used it successfully ever since. Like some DIY show I watched where the guy was struggling to get up a linoleum floor. I thought he needed a heat gun but his friend suggested a hair dryer. That actually worked. Long ago my ex gave his brother some pots, they had a label on each one that wouldn't budge. While he was heating something up on the stove, I picked at the label and it came off effortlessly. It was good for a laugh at the time, but I learned that heat was a good tool to release glue. nancy |
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On Thu, 09 May 2013 16:57:35 -0500, Janet Wilder
wrote: Janet Wilder Way-the-heck-south Texas Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does. I LUV you wink Vittles are good. |
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Danny D wrote:
Just curious, as my current 'magic solution' is water - but maybe there is a better medium for dissolving glued paper labels on glass bottles for kitchen reuse? http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/.../12890207.jpeg My current technique: a. Soak for a day or two in water b. Scrape with a kitchen fork c. Repeat until the label is gone Goo Gone. |
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On Thu, 09 May 2013 15:36:57 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
Goo Gone. So many people recommended this stuff, I had to look it up, via the MSDS: http://googone.com/GooGone-MSDS It appears to be roughly 95% petroleum distillates, and then from 1 to 10% Tripropylene glycol methyl ether. Googling for what "petroleum distillates" are, Wikipedia wasn't all that helpful: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petroleum_distillate Googling some more, it looks like it's the same as mineral spirits: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_spirit So, I should be able to buy some at the hardware store. |
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Danny D wrote:
Goo Gone. Googling some more, it looks like it's the same as mineral spirits: It's a combination of solvents, plus it's heavily scented. If you don't need a 100% removal rate and you don't care about the nasty smell, then buy mineral spirits and save yourself 45 cents. |
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On Fri, 10 May 2013 13:20:38 -0400, George M. Middius
wrote: Danny D wrote: Goo Gone. Googling some more, it looks like it's the same as mineral spirits: It's a combination of solvents, plus it's heavily scented. If you don't need a 100% removal rate and you don't care about the nasty smell, then buy mineral spirits and save yourself 45 cents. BSR kit http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=201pgTaEseQ |
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On Fri, 10 May 2013 10:48:42 -0700, Oren wrote:
BSR kit BS removal kit ... even works on a Prius! |
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On Fri, 10 May 2013 13:20:38 -0400, George M. Middius wrote:
It's a combination of solvents, plus it's heavily scented. If you don't need a 100% removal rate and you don't care about the nasty smell, then buy mineral spirits and save yourself 45 cents. Thanks for the advice. I'm a firm believer in figuring out what a chemical is, and then just buying it in bulk. For example, my female kids love that straight acetone from my garage works just fine when they run out of nail polish remover. And, on of my male kids uses dish detergent instead of shampoo for his short hair, since he learned that they're practically the same thing (and all my kids have to buy their own personal hygiene products since they fight over them all the time). I'm going to try the following solvents, simply because they were what are in my garage at the moment: http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/12898702.jpg |
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Is there a 'magic' solution for dissolving labels on glassware?
On 5/10/2013 9:19 AM, Danny D wrote:
Thanks for the advice. I'm a firm believer in figuring out what a chemical is, and then just buying it in bulk. For example, my female kids love that straight acetone from my garage works just fine when they run out of nail polish remover. And, on of my male kids uses dish detergent instead of shampoo for his short hair, since he learned that they're practically the same thing (and all my kids have to buy their own personal hygiene products since they fight over them all the time). I'm going to try the following solvents, simply because they were what are in my garage at the moment: http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/12898702.jpg Acetone would probably work on glass and ceramic - not plastic. I'd use MEK because it's more aggressive than acetone and it's what I have on hand. You have to be careful with the stuff cause it can be absorbed through the skin. I only use a little at a time. I've used dish detergent to wash my hair. It worked great but it would give me tremendous dandruff when I used it 15 years ago. I've used it recently and it worked fine without the dandruff problem. These days, however, I just use a bar of soap. |
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