COEUR D’ALENE, Idaho -- Idaho State Police tracked down and arrested
the father of a 2-year-old boy who was found after he wandered into a
Coeur d’Alene bar alone.

The boy walked into Sully’s Pub and Grill on N. Government Way around
12:30 p.m. Sunday.

He told officers his name was Jake Edwards, and that his dad’s name is
Jesse Edwards. The boy was wearing an inside out pajama top,
sweatpants and boots, and a diaper that looked like it had not been
changed for awhile, police said.

Officers contacted 36-year-old Jesse Edwards of Hayden by cell phone,
and were able to confirm Jake Edwards is his child.

Police met up with Jesse Edwards at the Hayden Wal-mart. Officers said
he appeared to be under the influence of a substance.

Authorities said Edwards offered no explanation about how he became
separated from his child.

Edwards was placed under arrest for child endangerment and taken to
jail.

The child’s mother has not made contact with Idaho State Police.

It is not known where and with whom the child is staying.
http://www.whas11.com/news/190662901.html


A 12 year old walks into a bar and orders a drink.
The barmaid laughs and says.......do you want to get me in trouble?
12 year old says.........Maybe later. Right now, I just want a drink.



--
Stephanie: What did you do today?
Leonard Hofstadter: Well, I'm a physicist, so I just thought about stuff.
Stephanie: That's it?
Leonard Hofstadter: I wrote some of it down.

On Feb 12, 7:32*pm, Metspitzer wrote:
COEUR D’ALENE, Idaho -- Idaho State Police tracked down and arrested
the father of a 2-year-old boy who was found after he wandered into a
Coeur d’Alene bar alone.

The boy walked into Sully’s Pub and Grill on N. Government Way around
12:30 p.m. Sunday.

He told officers his name was Jake Edwards, and that his dad’s name is
Jesse Edwards. The boy was wearing an inside out pajama top,
sweatpants and boots, and a diaper that looked like it had not been
changed for awhile, police said.

Officers contacted 36-year-old Jesse Edwards of Hayden by cell phone,
and were able to confirm Jake Edwards is his child.

Police met up with Jesse Edwards at the Hayden Wal-mart. Officers said
he appeared to be under the influence of a substance.

Authorities said Edwards offered no explanation about how he became
separated from his child.

Edwards was placed under arrest for child endangerment and taken to
jail.

The child’s mother has not made contact with Idaho State Police.

It is not known where and with whom the child is staying.http://www.whas11.com/news/190662901.html

Sounds like he needed arresting.

On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 22:49:04 -0800, Oren wrote:

On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 23:57:02 -0600, Doug
wrote:

Mitt was a joke to me tho the race was close but I think it had more
to do with getting rid of the President than liking Mitt.

So you don't think Mitt was smarter than the POTUS? Mitt can do math
for sure. Bain Capital saved a local park in Chicago where Barack and
Michelle first "kissed". A large rock has a plaque denoting the
location of this extraordinary event. Otherwise, the park would be a
failed Chicago park.

POTUS is now advocating "Promise Zones" in Chicago.

As I said, Mitt was a joke.

On Feb 16, 9:18*am, Doug wrote:
On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 22:49:04 -0800, Oren wrote:
On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 23:57:02 -0600, Doug
wrote:

Mitt was a joke to me tho the race was close but I think it had more
to do with getting rid of the President than liking Mitt.

So you don't think Mitt was smarter than the POTUS? *Mitt can do math
for sure. *Bain Capital saved a local park in Chicago where Barack and
Michelle first "kissed". *A large rock has a plaque denoting the
location of this extraordinary event. Otherwise, the park would be a
failed Chicago park.

POTUS is now advocating "Promise Zones" in Chicago.

As I said, Mitt was a joke.

So, what exactly have you accomplished in your life compared
to Mitt? You leave your high paying job to go save the Olympics
when it was a corrupt, failing disgrace, doing the job for free?
Hand out maybe a hundred million to charity over a lifetime?
Build and run a successful venture capital company that saved
one company after another and built new businesses like Staples
that created hundreds of thousands of jobs over decades?

Mitt is the quentessential American. He's demonstrated it.
You on the other hand, from your foolish posts devoid of fact
have also demonstrated a lot here since you showed up.

On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 08:18:35 -0600, Doug
wrote:

On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 22:49:04 -0800, Oren wrote:

On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 23:57:02 -0600, Doug
wrote:

Mitt was a joke to me tho the race was close but I think it had more
to do with getting rid of the President than liking Mitt.

So you don't think Mitt was smarter than the POTUS? Mitt can do math
for sure. Bain Capital saved a local park in Chicago where Barack and
Michelle first "kissed". A large rock has a plaque denoting the
location of this extraordinary event. Otherwise, the park would be a
failed Chicago park.

POTUS is now advocating "Promise Zones" in Chicago.

As I said, Mitt was a joke.

But that doesn't make it TRUE.

On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 09:04:35 -0800, Oren wrote:

On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 08:18:35 -0600, Doug
wrote:

On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 22:49:04 -0800, Oren wrote:

On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 23:57:02 -0600, Doug
wrote:

Mitt was a joke to me tho the race was close but I think it had more
to do with getting rid of the President than liking Mitt.

So you don't think Mitt was smarter than the POTUS? Mitt can do math
for sure. Bain Capital saved a local park in Chicago where Barack and
Michelle first "kissed". A large rock has a plaque denoting the
location of this extraordinary event. Otherwise, the park would be a
failed Chicago park.

POTUS is now advocating "Promise Zones" in Chicago.

As I said, Mitt was a joke.

But that doesn't make it TRUE.

Nor does it make it FALSE. Obviously some love him and hate him.
Enuf said.

On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 07:12:13 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Feb 16, 9:18*am, Doug wrote:
On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 22:49:04 -0800, Oren wrote:
On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 23:57:02 -0600, Doug
wrote:

Mitt was a joke to me tho the race was close but I think it had more
to do with getting rid of the President than liking Mitt.

So you don't think Mitt was smarter than the POTUS? *Mitt can do math
for sure. *Bain Capital saved a local park in Chicago where Barack and
Michelle first "kissed". *A large rock has a plaque denoting the
location of this extraordinary event. Otherwise, the park would be a
failed Chicago park.

POTUS is now advocating "Promise Zones" in Chicago.

As I said, Mitt was a joke.

So, what exactly have you accomplished in your life compared
to Mitt? You leave your high paying job to go save the Olympics
when it was a corrupt, failing disgrace, doing the job for free?
Hand out maybe a hundred million to charity over a lifetime?
Build and run a successful venture capital company that saved
one company after another and built new businesses like Staples
that created hundreds of thousands of jobs over decades?

Mitt is the quentessential American. He's demonstrated it.
You on the other hand, from your foolish posts devoid of fact
have also demonstrated a lot here since you showed up.


LOL but dream on.

On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 07:12:13 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:




So, what exactly have you accomplished in your life compared
to Mitt? You leave your high paying job to go save the Olympics
when it was a corrupt, failing disgrace, doing the job for free?
Hand out maybe a hundred million to charity over a lifetime?
Build and run a successful venture capital company that saved
one company after another and built new businesses like Staples
that created hundreds of thousands of jobs over decades?

Mitt is the quentessential American. He's demonstrated it.
You on the other hand, from your foolish posts devoid of fact
have also demonstrated a lot here since you showed up.

In spite of all that success, he did not resonate with the middle
class. Joe Sixpack still votes and saw no kinship with the man born
with the silver spoon. He is not the kind of guy you can have a beer
with over the backyard fence.

The Republican Party must make major changes in their makeup and who
they propose as candidates or they will never win a major election.
Many people that I know voting for Mitt use the reasoning "he is not
as bad as the other guy". He did not have a chance in this election,
never will considering the makeup of the US voting population.

I figured the choice was a Mass liberal versus a foreign born socialist.
What choice is that?

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
news
Many people that I know voting for Mitt use the reasoning "he is not
as bad as the other guy". He did not have a chance in this election,
never will considering the makeup of the US voting population.

In article
,
" wrote:

On Feb 16, 9:18*am, Doug wrote:
On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 22:49:04 -0800, Oren wrote:
On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 23:57:02 -0600, Doug
wrote:

Mitt was a joke to me tho the race was close but I think it had more
to do with getting rid of the President than liking Mitt.

So you don't think Mitt was smarter than the POTUS? *Mitt can do math
for sure. *Bain Capital saved a local park in Chicago where Barack and
Michelle first "kissed". *A large rock has a plaque denoting the
location of this extraordinary event. Otherwise, the park would be a
failed Chicago park.

POTUS is now advocating "Promise Zones" in Chicago.

As I said, Mitt was a joke.

So, what exactly have you accomplished in your life compared
to Mitt? You leave your high paying job to go save the Olympics
when it was a corrupt, failing disgrace, doing the job for free?
Hand out maybe a hundred million to charity over a lifetime?
Build and run a successful venture capital company that saved
one company after another and built new businesses like Staples
that created hundreds of thousands of jobs over decades?

Mitt is the quentessential American. He's demonstrated it.
You on the other hand, from your foolish posts devoid of fact
have also demonstrated a lot here since you showed up.

Mitt may be the quintessential CAPITALIST but what it seems the only
thing in your list that he didn't do for money is the Olympics and even
that is debatable.

I know you'll ask this of me, but what is it you have accomplished in
your life compared to Mitt?

" wrote in news:f600cb87-
:

On Feb 16, 9:18*am, Doug wrote:

snip

So, what exactly have you accomplished in your life compared
to Mitt? You leave your high paying job to go save the Olympics
when it was a corrupt, failing disgrace, doing the job for free?
Hand out maybe a hundred million to charity over a lifetime?
Build and run a successful venture capital company that saved
one company after another and built new businesses like Staples
that created hundreds of thousands of jobs over decades?

Mitt is the quentessential American. He's demonstrated it.
You on the other hand, from your foolish posts devoid of fact
have also demonstrated a lot here since you showed up.


Well said.

On 02-16-2013 12:37, The Daring Dufas wrote:
survival of the country as a whole. The once mighty Postal Service has
crumbled because of it and the final most destructive spawn of that

The postal service's problems are not from affirmative action.

It's from the business model of making you and I pay enough for first
class stamps to let junk mail go nearly free.

The more we switch to e-mail and other online mechanisms, the more they
have to raise the stamp prices. Which makes us even more likely to use
the 'net, so they raise it again.

--
Wes Groleau

You're all individuals!
Yes, we're all individuals!
You're all different!
Yes, we are all different!
I'm not!
("Life of Brian")

On 02-15-2013 11:32, Robert Green wrote:
equally bad behavior on both sides, although I think Nixon was the only
President ever to resign and Spiro Agnew was the only VP to have to resign

The only thing Nixon did differently from others was trying to cover up
for his people instead of letting them take the fall.

--
Wes Groleau

A UNIX signature isn't a return address, it's the ASCII equivalent
of a black velvet clown painting. It's a rectangle of carets
surrounding a quote from a literary giant of weeniedom like
Heinlein or Dr. Who.
€” Chris Maeda
Ha, ha, Dr. ..... Who's Chris Maeda?
€” Wes Groleau

On 02-16-2013 13:21, Stormin Mormon wrote:
I figured the choice was a Mass liberal versus a foreign born socialist.
What choice is that?

Two liberals trying to look conservative. Only one succeeded.

Now the other no longer needs to try.

--
Wes Groleau

€œTwo things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity.
But I'm not so sure about the universe.€�
€” Albert Einstein

On 2/18/2013 12:55 AM, Wes Groleau wrote:
On 02-16-2013 12:37, The Daring Dufas wrote:
survival of the country as a whole. The once mighty Postal Service has
crumbled because of it and the final most destructive spawn of that

The postal service's problems are not from affirmative action.

It's from the business model of making you and I pay enough for first
class stamps to let junk mail go nearly free.

The more we switch to e-mail and other online mechanisms, the more they
have to raise the stamp prices. Which makes us even more likely to use
the 'net, so they raise it again.


The rot started from within long before the technology placed any
pressure on The USPS. I watched it happen with my own eyes and heard it
from the mouths of the folks who were there when it was happening. You
can believe whatever P.L.L.C.F. codswallop you want and I won't think
any less of you for it. ^_^

TDD

In article ,
Wes Groleau wrote:

On 02-16-2013 12:37, The Daring Dufas wrote:
survival of the country as a whole. The once mighty Postal Service has
crumbled because of it and the final most destructive spawn of that

The postal service's problems are not from affirmative action.

It's from the business model of making you and I pay enough for first
class stamps to let junk mail go nearly free.

The more we switch to e-mail and other online mechanisms, the more they
have to raise the stamp prices. Which makes us even more likely to use
the 'net, so they raise it again.

Actually most of the problem lies with Congress and the way they are
making USPS pay all of their retiree health insurance payments in
advance. Something no other company that I am aware of is mandated to
do. Its financial problems are the direct result of an unfair provision
in the Postal Accountability and Enhancements Act that mandates that the
Postal Service fully fund 75 years of future retiree healthcare costs
(even for future employees not yet born) in over 10 years. No other
government agency or public company in America, including UPS or FedEx,
is required to pre-fund future retiree health benefits.
From 2007 through 2010, net operating losses for that same period
were $20.2 billion. The entire amount is due to the payments to pre-fund
those future retiree health benefits which $20.9 billion have been made
in the past four years. Thus, without the unique burden imposed by the
pre-funding requirement, everything else equal, the Postal Service would
have enjoyed a cumulative profit of $700 million during those years. '

Also, most studies show that junk mail actually subsidizes first class
mail.
--
America is at that awkward stage. It's too late
to work within the system, but too early to shoot
the *******s."-- Claire Wolfe

On Feb 18, 7:12*am, Kurt Ullman wrote:
In article ,
*Wes Groleau wrote:

On 02-16-2013 12:37, The Daring Dufas wrote:
survival of the country as a whole. The once mighty Postal Service has
crumbled because of it and the final most destructive spawn of that

The postal service's problems are not from affirmative action.

It's from the business model of making you and I pay enough for first
class stamps to let junk mail go nearly free.

The more we switch to e-mail and other online mechanisms, the more they
have to raise the stamp prices. *Which makes us even more likely to use
the 'net, so they raise it again.

Actually most of the problem lies with Congress and the way they are
making USPS pay all of their retiree health insurance payments in
advance. Something no other company that I am aware of is mandated to
do. Its financial problems are the direct result of an unfair provision
in the Postal Accountability and Enhancements Act that mandates that the
Postal Service fully fund 75 years of future retiree healthcare costs
(even for future employees not yet born) in over 10 years. No other
government agency or public company in America, including UPS or FedEx,
is required to pre-fund future retiree health benefits.
* * *From 2007 through 2010, net operating losses for that same period
were $20.2 billion. The entire amount is due to the payments to pre-fund
those future retiree health benefits which $20.9 billion have been made
in the past four years. Thus, without the unique burden imposed by the
pre-funding requirement, everything else equal, the Postal Service would
have enjoyed a cumulative profit of $700 million during those years. '

Also, most studies show that junk *mail actually subsidizes first class
mail.
--

You have a reference for those studies? Junk mail
apparently slightly exceeds the volume of regular mail.
Yet they are paying as little as 1/3 the rate. I guess it
could be made up in part by the fact that it doesn't
have to be fully sorted, run through the system individually,
etc. At least some of it comes in a big bundle and
the carrier just puts one in each box.

And factor in the postal services problems is that
Congress won't let them close or consolidate unprofitable
post offices. They have to keep them open to provide
convenient service so some folks won't have to drive
another 5 miles to the post office.

On Mon, 18 Feb 2013 07:12:59 -0500, Kurt Ullman
wrote:

In article ,
Wes Groleau wrote:

On 02-16-2013 12:37, The Daring Dufas wrote:
survival of the country as a whole. The once mighty Postal Service has
crumbled because of it and the final most destructive spawn of that

The postal service's problems are not from affirmative action.

It's from the business model of making you and I pay enough for first
class stamps to let junk mail go nearly free.

The more we switch to e-mail and other online mechanisms, the more they
have to raise the stamp prices. Which makes us even more likely to use
the 'net, so they raise it again.

Actually most of the problem lies with Congress and the way they are
making USPS pay all of their retiree health insurance payments in
advance. Something no other company that I am aware of is mandated to
do. Its financial problems are the direct result of an unfair provision
in the Postal Accountability and Enhancements Act that mandates that the
Postal Service fully fund 75 years of future retiree healthcare costs
(even for future employees not yet born) in over 10 years. No other
government agency or public company in America, including UPS or FedEx,
is required to pre-fund future retiree health benefits.

That's not quite true. ERISA requires funding of defined benefit
pension plans in much the same way. Several employers have had to
throw billion$ into their pension plans to catch up. This is one of
the reasons that defined benefit plans have gone the way of the DoDo.
They're unsustainable. The difference is that the USPS had to catch
up, after being a branch of the US government (which is exempt from
all of its own rules) to a "private" corporation. In reality, it has
the worst of both worlds; the efficiency of being run by Congress, and
the need to compete in the real world.

From 2007 through 2010, net operating losses for that same period
were $20.2 billion. The entire amount is due to the payments to pre-fund
those future retiree health benefits which $20.9 billion have been made
in the past four years. Thus, without the unique burden imposed by the
pre-funding requirement, everything else equal, the Postal Service would
have enjoyed a cumulative profit of $700 million during those years. '

Also, most studies show that junk mail actually subsidizes first class
mail.

Accountants can prove whatever they set out to prove. That goes
double for government accountants.

On Mon, 18 Feb 2013 01:56:49 -0500, Wes Groleau
wrote:

On 02-15-2013 11:32, Robert Green wrote:
equally bad behavior on both sides, although I think Nixon was the only
President ever to resign and Spiro Agnew was the only VP to have to resign

The only thing Nixon did differently from others was trying to cover up
for his people instead of letting them take the fall.

You mean like Fast and Furious?

In article ,
wrote:


Actually most of the problem lies with Congress and the way they are
making USPS pay all of their retiree health insurance payments in
advance. Something no other company that I am aware of is mandated to
do. Its financial problems are the direct result of an unfair provision
in the Postal Accountability and Enhancements Act that mandates that the
Postal Service fully fund 75 years of future retiree healthcare costs
(even for future employees not yet born) in over 10 years. No other
government agency or public company in America, including UPS or FedEx,
is required to pre-fund future retiree health benefits.

That's not quite true. ERISA requires funding of defined benefit
pension plans in much the same way. Several employers have had to
throw billion$ into their pension plans to catch up. This is one of
the reasons that defined benefit plans have gone the way of the DoDo.
They're unsustainable. The difference is that the USPS had to catch
up, after being a branch of the US government (which is exempt from
all of its own rules) to a "private" corporation. In reality, it has
the worst of both worlds; the efficiency of being run by Congress, and
the need to compete in the real world.
This is not pension funding (which is actually over funded according
to things I have seen). This is for the health insurance component and,
again, I know of no company that is required to prefund the health
component.
--
America is at that awkward stage. It's too late
to work within the system, but too early to shoot
the *******s."-- Claire Wolfe

On Mon, 18 Feb 2013 17:16:41 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 18 Feb 2013 01:56:49 -0500, Wes Groleau
wrote:

On 02-15-2013 11:32, Robert Green wrote:
equally bad behavior on both sides, although I think Nixon was the only
President ever to resign and Spiro Agnew was the only VP to have to resign

The only thing Nixon did differently from others was trying to cover up
for his people instead of letting them take the fall.

You mean like Fast and Furious?

Benghazi?

On Mon, 18 Feb 2013 16:23:47 -0800, Oren wrote:

On Mon, 18 Feb 2013 17:16:41 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 18 Feb 2013 01:56:49 -0500, Wes Groleau
wrote:

On 02-15-2013 11:32, Robert Green wrote:
equally bad behavior on both sides, although I think Nixon was the only
President ever to resign and Spiro Agnew was the only VP to have to resign

The only thing Nixon did differently from others was trying to cover up
for his people instead of letting them take the fall.

You mean like Fast and Furious?

Benghazi?

The only difference between them is that the Republicans brought the
tar and helped the Democrats with the feathers rather than running
interference, so he could continue. Democrats like criminals.

On Wed, 20 Feb 2013 12:09:19 -0800 (PST), wrote:


Mucking with the Constitution takes practically an act of God; a 2/3 majority of everyone to agree to the change.

....

Amendments may be proposed by either:

- two-thirds of both houses of the United States Congress; or

- by a national convention assembled at the request of the
legislatures of at least two-thirds of the states.

To become part of the Constitution, amendments must then be ratified
either by approval of:

- the legislatures of three-fourths of the states; or

- state ratifying conventions held in three-fourths of the states.

Congress has discretion as to which method of ratification should be
used.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_Five_of_the_United_States_Constitution

just sayin'