(A friend of mine wrote this about her experiences.)

When the electric went out last year for the ice
storm we did have to change a few things. We
did the propane grill for cooking. We ran out of
propane. We took rocks big enough to hold up
an oven rack and made a fire. Good thing I had
my cast iron skillets and dutch oven. Hubby says
we got to buy another one of them gas grill tanks.
Yeah, well, I can see hes' right. At least we got
trees behind us.

For heat we put more clothes on and blankets on the
bed. We have moving blankets. We put the moving
blankets on the matress and above us for added
thickness, we also have 20 below sleeping bags.
For added comfort we heatted a rock up to put
at the toe of the bed or for when your sitting around.
We did learn with that there is a such thing as
heating it to hot, because it scortched a few
towels before we got it right.

We had kerosene laps or what type of lamps I think
they are called that. We used those a bit when sitting
around reading or what not. Had some candles too
but realized son had used them for I don't know what
now I think it was a skateboard or something like that.
He melted them to make a design on the bottom. See
if I found 10 long candles for .50 cents again. Oh I was
so mad. I had them in a box in a cool dry place so the
summer heat wouldn't melt them. Yes in certain rooms
when we have shut the doors so it doesn't cool off that
room it has melted crayons in there and candles. I found
to put them in the cellar on the shelf over the washer
cause the dryer gets too hot. anyways we did have
scented candles, but it stintches up the place when
you have to many on. We did a lot of get up early
and go to bed early.

Oh for coffee we kept the fire going during the day,
hubby and a friend built a little lean to thing around
and over it so it was actually pretty good when
sitting there doing the stuff. It didn't get to smoky
because one side was open but it did save the fire
a lot. Anyways we had that we used the filter thing
from the coffee pot to hold the filter and grounds in
boiled the water in one pan and pour it through the
filter into another one. It kept the coffee ground out
of it. I did try it the just boiling the coffee in it and
stuff, but this seemed to work nicer.

I kept small heated rocks to go in my mittens that
helped my fingers to move.

We have never really turned a light on at night to just
use the restroom, I think we just have homing devices
well except for my nephew and I just put a dang bucket
in the corner of the bedroom and aluminium foil around
the wall and the floor. It was simplier because it didn't
matter if the light would have been on he sleeps heavy
and his bathroom is off to the other side where that
bucket was placed. Lucky the water stayed on that could
of been bad.

Oh for keeping heat in more we made tents over the beds.
I sure think that was nice, but hubby can't see the t.v. at
night wiith the tent. Not like we got TV with the power off
duh. It was basically two moving blankets stapled together
and then stitch when I got them up acrossed the rope. I
think we put another folded sheet at the food and a blanket
against the wall. People complained about being cold all
night, but we were really and my husband and I have
arthritis.

I did let people know how I did it, but don't think I gave
up my supplies. If you live in a place that gets cold and
don't have extra blankets and know the heat can go off
than your just plain asking for something. Anyways we
sectioned off rooms in the same manner we didn't need
the whole living room or whole dinning room. We had
some extra lumber that temp walls were made out of.
We sectioned off bedrooms that way too. That way the
smaller the place more body heat was filing the place.
We used sheets and blankets. Good that my hubby had
a staple gun we used it a lot that week. Sheet plastic
could have worked too.

We had the neighbors come over to our place and they
brought their supplies with them and we had 7 people in
the place, but it seemed to work out real well. They had
a battery radio and some batteries. The music was good.
We also kept up on news. Like when the power was
coming back on.

One of the sections was to section son off from the
neighbor girl and then had daughter next to the
openning of the wall and then the parent weren't to
far from my son so anytime he even thought of
getting up he could feel the dad's eyes. Heck he
was 18 and the daughter 17. Something may of
been happening else were but it wasn't happening
that night. hahah

There are different things I've thought of and have it
written down were we could have done things
different and would have maybe been better, but it
is in the file cabinet hehe.

We found it easier and faster to learn some basic first aid
skills and take someone to the hospital ourselves, since the
ambulance people had to wait for a police excurit to come
in. Dang morons I just don't get that shooting at the para-
medics so they wont help the person you just shot, so that
later when your family member is hurt they wont come in fast
enough. Talk about not using their friggen heads. So when I
read your joke about the 911 it sure made me laugh about it.
Especailly since hubby had a heart attack on Thursday and
we would have had nice people here right away (well as soon
as they would have gotten out of bed since the are volunteer)
he didn't want to bother waking them up I think I can drive
he say. Yeah right! Are son drove. Wow they don't mess
around at hospitals for chest pains, right away.

Now I do make good Thanksgiving, so I know dang
well he didn't have a heart attack so he wouldn't have to
eat my turkey. I bet it was, so he didn't have to eat his
brothers wives deviled eggs. Man how you screw up
on those so bad and think they taste good who knows.
Here is her recipe cut egg in half short ways. take out
yolk smash it up with salt how much I'm not sure, but
I'm possitive the ocean has less in it. Then put smashed
up yolk in egg halves. There that is her recipe oh and
then she sprinkles dry chilli powder on it. So you are
eatting this dry salty chilli thing. The first year she cried,
because her husband and everybody else ate the deviled
eggs and were saying oh these are so great, you made
some great deviled eggs. Well my mother in law hadn't
realized she was bringing them and my mother in law
brings them each year and just sets them on the table.
SIL hadn't taken hers out of the fridge yet. I should
upload the picture I have of her sour puss hahahahaaha
Anyways we just make sure we have MIL deviled eggs
on the down low and tell SIL how good hers our so
she doesn't make our life a living hell the rest of the year.

Wonder if it came down to it if I could say the baby and
hubby could stay but she has to sleep in the barn.
Probably not I doubt anybody will build a barn for her
to stay in. hahaha Awww she isn't that bad just young.
Pretty much how a lot of people will be when their electric
gets turned off. I wish are cell phone hadn't worked at
that time, because she kept hubby last year to say what
was happening on t.v. shows or this and that. She
probably wouldn't make it long without electricity.

Well anyways. God's Blessings to ya all

On Nov 3, 8:29*am, "Stormin Mormon"
One of the sections was to
section son off from the
neighbor girl and then had daughter next to the
openning of the wall and then the parent weren't to
far from my son so anytime he even thought of
getting up he could feel the dad's eyes. *Heck he
was 18 and the daughter 17. *Something may of
been happening else were but it wasn't happening
that night. hahah


This is where I quit reading. Tough read that. Word.

I agree. I didn't edit that, very much. Figured to keep the original
rambling person's writing style. Yes, it's hard to read.

Christopher A. Young
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"Thomas" wrote in message
...
getting up he could feel the dad's eyes. Heck he
was 18 and the daughter 17. Something may of
been happening else were but it wasn't happening
that night. hahah


This is where I quit reading. Tough read that. Word.

This is how americans will live without electricity in the coming
post-modern american stone age:

http://www.ericvalli.com/files/gimgs/7_evotg17.png

The fences and walls you built along your northern border during your
post 9/11 security-hysteria period will insure that your tribes and
clans won't be able to cause us any trouble or problems here in Canada.

On Sat, 03 Nov 2012 10:40:16 -0400, Home Guy wrote:

This is how americans will live without electricity in the coming
post-modern american stone age:

http://www.ericvalli.com/files/gimgs/7_evotg17.png

The fences and walls you built along your northern border during your
post 9/11 security-hysteria period will insure that your tribes and
clans won't be able to cause us any trouble or problems here in Canada.

What makes you think things are going to be any different in Canada?
Besides a whole lot colder, I mean.

deep wrote:

This is how americans will live without electricity in the coming
post-modern american stone age:

http://www.ericvalli.com/files/gimgs/7_evotg17.png

What makes you think things are going to be any different in Canada?
Besides a whole lot colder, I mean.

Because we're not committing economic and financial suicide like you
are.

On Sat, 03 Nov 2012 10:44:53 -0400, Home Guy wrote:

deep wrote:

This is how americans will live without electricity in the coming
post-modern american stone age:

http://www.ericvalli.com/files/gimgs/7_evotg17.png

What makes you think things are going to be any different in Canada?
Besides a whole lot colder, I mean.

Because we're not committing economic and financial suicide like you
are.

Oh yea, you are. This one is going global, there neighbor. The
dominio effect will take you out. Thing you got on your side is a
whole lot more resources and fewer people, but don't think for one
second if the fascists get in charge here they won't be rolling
northward to take the last of what you have.

deep wrote:

Because we're not committing economic and financial suicide like
you are.

Oh yea, you are. This one is going global, there neighbor.

It already is global - has been for a year or two. Except here in
Canada.

If it's not here now, it's not going to be.

but don't think for one second if the fascists get in charge here

IF?

The fascists have been in charge of your country since 2000.

they won't be rolling northward to take the last of what you have.

You tried that in 1812 and it didn't work then. You got your ass
kicked.

On 11/3/2012 9:40 AM, Home Guy wrote:
This is how americans will live without electricity in the coming
post-modern american stone age:

http://www.ericvalli.com/files/gimgs/7_evotg17.png

The fences and walls you built along your northern border during your
post 9/11 security-hysteria period will insure that your tribes and
clans won't be able to cause us any trouble or problems here in Canada.


A Canadian village during the same time period:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped.../75/Igloos.jpg

TDD

On 11/3/2012 10:06 AM, deep wrote:
On Sat, 03 Nov 2012 10:44:53 -0400, Home Guy wrote:

deep wrote:

This is how americans will live without electricity in the coming
post-modern american stone age:

http://www.ericvalli.com/files/gimgs/7_evotg17.png

What makes you think things are going to be any different in Canada?
Besides a whole lot colder, I mean.

Because we're not committing economic and financial suicide like you
are.

Oh yea, you are. This one is going global, there neighbor. The
dominio effect will take you out. Thing you got on your side is a
whole lot more resources and fewer people, but don't think for one
second if the fascists get in charge here they won't be rolling
northward to take the last of what you have.


Who would be around for them to sell resources to? ^_^

TDD

On 11/3/2012 10:15 AM, Home Guy wrote:
deep wrote:

Because we're not committing economic and financial suicide like
you are.

Oh yea, you are. This one is going global, there neighbor.

It already is global - has been for a year or two. Except here in
Canada.

If it's not here now, it's not going to be.

but don't think for one second if the fascists get in charge here

IF?

The fascists have been in charge of your country since 2000.

they won't be rolling northward to take the last of what you have.

You tried that in 1812 and it didn't work then. You got your ass
kicked.


We didn't have nukes back then. ^_^

TDD

In article , Home Guy wrote:

deep wrote:

Because we're not committing economic and financial suicide like
you are.

Oh yea, you are. This one is going global, there neighbor.

It already is global - has been for a year or two. Except here in
Canada.

If it's not here now, it's not going to be.

but don't think for one second if the fascists get in charge here

IF?

The fascists have been in charge of your country since 2000.

they won't be rolling northward to take the last of what you have.

You tried that in 1812 and it didn't work then. You got your ass
kicked.

We're not using flintlocks anymore.

Home Guy wrote:

Because we're not committing economic and financial suicide like you
are.

When you're handcuffed to the guy who jumped off a cliff you've gopt a
problem too.

On Sat, 03 Nov 2012 11:29:18 -0500, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

On 11/3/2012 10:06 AM, deep wrote:
On Sat, 03 Nov 2012 10:44:53 -0400, Home Guy wrote:

deep wrote:

This is how americans will live without electricity in the coming
post-modern american stone age:

http://www.ericvalli.com/files/gimgs/7_evotg17.png

What makes you think things are going to be any different in Canada?
Besides a whole lot colder, I mean.

Because we're not committing economic and financial suicide like you
are.

Oh yea, you are. This one is going global, there neighbor. The
dominio effect will take you out. Thing you got on your side is a
whole lot more resources and fewer people, but don't think for one
second if the fascists get in charge here they won't be rolling
northward to take the last of what you have.


Who would be around for them to sell resources to? ^_^


I for one could do without Canadian broadcasting, eh?

TDD

On Sat, 03 Nov 2012 11:29:51 -0500, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

On 11/3/2012 10:15 AM, Home Guy wrote:
deep wrote:

Because we're not committing economic and financial suicide like
you are.

Oh yea, you are. This one is going global, there neighbor.

It already is global - has been for a year or two. Except here in
Canada.

If it's not here now, it's not going to be.

but don't think for one second if the fascists get in charge here

IF?

The fascists have been in charge of your country since 2000.

they won't be rolling northward to take the last of what you have.

You tried that in 1812 and it didn't work then. You got your ass
kicked.


We didn't have nukes back then. ^_^

And we got these cool stealthy little fighter jets that could fly
across the border and flow up all their hockey arenas and they'd never
know what hit 'em doncha know.


TDD

On 11/3/2012 1:25 PM, deep wrote:
On Sat, 03 Nov 2012 11:29:51 -0500, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

On 11/3/2012 10:15 AM, Home Guy wrote:
deep wrote:

Because we're not committing economic and financial suicide like
you are.

Oh yea, you are. This one is going global, there neighbor.

It already is global - has been for a year or two. Except here in
Canada.

If it's not here now, it's not going to be.

but don't think for one second if the fascists get in charge here

IF?

The fascists have been in charge of your country since 2000.

they won't be rolling northward to take the last of what you have.

You tried that in 1812 and it didn't work then. You got your ass
kicked.


We didn't have nukes back then. ^_^

And we got these cool stealthy little fighter jets that could fly
across the border and flow up all their hockey arenas and they'd never
know what hit 'em doncha know.


Homo Gay is not representative of your average Canadian based on my
experience with my Canadian friends. ^_^

TDD

deep wrote:

I for one could do without Canadian broadcasting, eh?

What do you have against Red Green?

On Sat, 03 Nov 2012 09:06:28 -0600, deep wrote:

On Sat, 03 Nov 2012 10:44:53 -0400, Home Guy wrote:

deep wrote:

This is how americans will live without electricity in the coming
post-modern american stone age:

http://www.ericvalli.com/files/gimgs/7_evotg17.png

What makes you think things are going to be any different in Canada?
Besides a whole lot colder, I mean.

Because we're not committing economic and financial suicide like you
are.

Oh yea, you are. This one is going global, there neighbor. The
dominio effect will take you out. Thing you got on your side is a
whole lot more resources and fewer people, but don't think for one
second if the fascists get in charge here they won't be rolling
northward to take the last of what you have.
They tried a hundred years ago.

On Sat, 03 Nov 2012 16:35:12 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 03 Nov 2012 09:06:28 -0600, deep wrote:

On Sat, 03 Nov 2012 10:44:53 -0400, Home Guy wrote:

deep wrote:

This is how americans will live without electricity in the coming
post-modern american stone age:

http://www.ericvalli.com/files/gimgs/7_evotg17.png

What makes you think things are going to be any different in Canada?
Besides a whole lot colder, I mean.

Because we're not committing economic and financial suicide like you
are.

Oh yea, you are. This one is going global, there neighbor. The
dominio effect will take you out. Thing you got on your side is a
whole lot more resources and fewer people, but don't think for one
second if the fascists get in charge here they won't be rolling
northward to take the last of what you have.
They tried a hundred years ago.

But we got so many cool toys now.

On Sat, 03 Nov 2012 10:40:16 -0400, Home Guy wrote:

This is how americans will live without electricity in the coming
post-modern american stone age:

http://www.ericvalli.com/files/gimgs/7_evotg17.png

Cute. Very nice dig. Do you think you have something you have to
prove? You guys are not actually inferior, you know.

I have news for you to ponder. The factors that go into having or not
having a large, national, technology system up and running, with all
the input vectors and natural hazards, don't know a thing about
nationality.

If we get EMPed, so do you. If assorted solar phenomenon occur
(again), do you think it's going to read your road signs and hang a
left? Are you prepared to build your own replacement transformers for
those 20 to 50 year old units in your system? You know the ones that
are only built in Germany, to order, with six months to a year
delivery.

Heck, if we all shut off our power at the same time, Niagara Falls
might burp backwards and flood you with a tsunami. (That's just a
theory. ;)

Gunner wrote:

The fascists have been in charge of your country since 2000.

they won't be rolling northward to take the last of what you have.

You tried that in 1812 and it didn't work then. You got your ass
kicked.

We certainly did. And there were far more Canadians than Yanks in
1812.

Care to try for a rematch?

If you try it again - China's got our back next time.

They want our oil and potash more than you do. And they're paying a
premium for it.

Screw the XL pipeline. We're building one to the west coast - where
we'll be exporting our oil to China.

All this talk of "North American" energy independance coming out of your
oil-industry PR mouths. What a joke. You keep going down the toilet
and meanwhile China is open for business. They've already got a few of
our Candu nuclear reactors (the ones that can't melt down - unlike the
GE ones you use and sold to Japan and screwed them up real good didn't
you?)

"Stormin Mormon" wrote in message
...
(A friend of mine wrote this about her experiences.)

When the electric went out last year for the ice
storm we did have to change a few things. We
did the propane grill for cooking. We ran out of
propane. We took rocks big enough to hold up
an oven rack and made a fire. Good thing I had
my cast iron skillets and dutch oven. Hubby says
we got to buy another one of them gas grill tanks.
Yeah, well, I can see hes' right. At least we got
trees behind us.

snip

Why the need to live without electricity? We had a vacation home in the
Application mountains that was off grid for the entire 20+ years we owned
it. We live there full time for near 4 years. Someone else is living there
now.

On 11/3/2012 11:43 PM, Home Guy wrote:
Gunner wrote:

The fascists have been in charge of your country since 2000.

they won't be rolling northward to take the last of what you have.

You tried that in 1812 and it didn't work then. You got your ass
kicked.

We certainly did. And there were far more Canadians than Yanks in
1812.

Care to try for a rematch?

If you try it again - China's got our back next time.

They want our oil and potash more than you do. And they're paying a
premium for it.

Screw the XL pipeline. We're building one to the west coast - where
we'll be exporting our oil to China.

All this talk of "North American" energy independance coming out of your
oil-industry PR mouths. What a joke. You keep going down the toilet
and meanwhile China is open for business. They've already got a few of
our Candu nuclear reactors (the ones that can't melt down - unlike the
GE ones you use and sold to Japan and screwed them up real good didn't
you?)


Home Gay, how are your Chinese language lessons coming along for the
time when China takes over Canada? ^_^

TDD

On Nov 3, 4:27*pm, The Daring Dufas the-daring-du...@stinky-
finger.net wrote:
On 11/3/2012 9:40 AM, Home Guy wrote:

This is how americans will live without electricity in the coming
post-modern american stone age:

http://www.ericvalli.com/files/gimgs/7_evotg17.png

The fences and walls you built along your northern border during your
post 9/11 security-hysteria period will insure that your tribes and
clans won't be able to cause us any trouble or problems here in Canada.

A Canadian village during the same time period:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped.../75/Igloos.jpg

TDD

Just across the border in the USA.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...0px-Tipi01.jpg

On Nov 4, 3:40*am, Gunner wrote:
On Sat, 03 Nov 2012 11:15:51 -0400, Home Guy wrote:
deep wrote:

Because we're not committing economic and financial suicide like
you are.

Oh yea, you are. *This one is going global, there neighbor.

It already is global - has been for a year or two. *Except here in
Canada.

If it's not here now, it's not going to be.

but don't think for one second if the fascists get in charge here

IF?

The fascists have been in charge of your country since 2000.

they won't be rolling northward to take the last of what you have.

You tried that in 1812 and it didn't work then. *You got your ass
kicked.

We certainly did. *And there were far more Canadians than Yanks in
1812.

Care to try for a rematch?


Heh Heh, You couldn't even beat a bunch of clothheads in Afghanistan.

On 11/4/2012 1:54 AM, harry wrote:
On Nov 3, 4:27 pm, The Daring Dufas the-daring-du...@stinky-
finger.net wrote:
On 11/3/2012 9:40 AM, Home Guy wrote:

This is how americans will live without electricity in the coming
post-modern american stone age:

http://www.ericvalli.com/files/gimgs/7_evotg17.png

The fences and walls you built along your northern border during your
post 9/11 security-hysteria period will insure that your tribes and
clans won't be able to cause us any trouble or problems here in Canada.

A Canadian village during the same time period:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped.../75/Igloos.jpg

TDD

Just across the border in the USA.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...0px-Tipi01.jpg


One of the kids who was a hero in "Mars Attacks" suggested at the end of
the movie when everyone was celebrating, that we should all live in
tepees. ^_^

TDD

harry wrote:

Care to try for a rematch?

Heh Heh, You couldn't even beat a bunch of clothheads in Afghanistan.

Good point. They're called rag-heads over here.

The idiocy of suggesting that the US would threaten Canada with nukes.
Would you really be that depraved of a country to do that? (don't
answer that...)

You'd have to put boots on the ground. And just remember we've got some
of the best military sharp-shooters in the world. And because we're a
NATO member country, there are some friends we'd call on (and just
remember that the UK has nukes).

No worries. Everyone understands English, if you shout loud enough.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
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"The Daring Dufas" wrote in message
...

Home Gay, how are your Chinese language lessons coming along for the
time when China takes over Canada? ^_^

TDD

On 11/4/2012 6:36 AM, Home Guy wrote:
harry wrote:

Care to try for a rematch?

Heh Heh, You couldn't even beat a bunch of clothheads in Afghanistan.

Good point. They're called rag-heads over here.

The idiocy of suggesting that the US would threaten Canada with nukes.
Would you really be that depraved of a country to do that? (don't
answer that...)

You'd have to put boots on the ground. And just remember we've got some
of the best military sharp-shooters in the world. And because we're a
NATO member country, there are some friends we'd call on (and just
remember that the UK has nukes).


You must be suffering from H.I.S.I., pronounced "hissy". It stands for
(H)umor (I)rony (S)arcasm (I)mpairment. People with that particular
mental disease are said to have H.I.S.I. fits and often put on a big
display of pseudo-intellectualism about the subject at hand when they
fail to see the humor or bizarreness of statements made by someone who
is attempting to pull their leg. It's also called The Mr. Data response
in some circles. ^_^

TDD

On Sat, 3 Nov 2012 08:30:06 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

(A friend of mine wrote this about her experiences.)

When the electric went out last year for the ice
storm we did have to change a few things. We
did the propane grill for cooking. We ran out of
propane. We took rocks big enough to hold up
an oven rack and made a fire. Good thing I had
my cast iron skillets and dutch oven. Hubby says
we got to buy another one of them gas grill tanks.
Yeah, well, I can see hes' right. At least we got
trees behind us.

For heat we put more clothes on and blankets on the
bed. We have moving blankets.

You can also shop at Lehman's' for non-electric appliances and tools
https://www.lehmans.com/default.aspx

They have composting toilets, wood cook stoves, gas refrigerators,
etc.

Gunner wrote:

Tell that to the few survivors over there.

VBG

Of course, the US decided places like the Korengal Valley didn't exist when
trying to pacify them became too embarassing. iirc the Ivans were pretty
selective too.

Gunner wrote:

The dude is probably French Canadian. They have zero sense of humor.
Mutants deported from France to try to improve the blood lines of
those remaining in France. The culls so to speak.

You have that backwards. The culls stayed home kissing Louis' hindparts.

Those are excellent, for people who are far sighted
enough to be prepared, as a way of life. I got some
oil lamp wicks from Lehmans. Only place I could
find 5/8 inch wicks. Well, that and Ebay.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
...

You can also shop at Lehman's' for non-electric appliances and tools
https://www.lehmans.com/default.aspx

They have composting toilets, wood cook stoves, gas refrigerators,
etc.

rbowman wrote:

Because we (Canada) isin't committing economic and financial
suicide like you are.

When you're handcuffed to the guy who jumped off a cliff you've got
a problem too.

Ordinarily, I would have thought that.

Canada's huge trading advantage with the US (a dollar that historically
was valued at 75-80% of the US dollar) has been wiped away for the past
5 years. And even in spite of that, we're doing very well, with an
unemployment rate that's 1 or 2 points below yours, and a FED interest
rate that's sitting at 1% (not zero).

You've already jumped off the cliff, and you didn't take us with you.

On 11/9/2012 8:27 AM, Homo Gay wrote:
rbowman wrote:

Because we (Canada) isin't committing economic and financial
suicide like you are.

When you're handcuffed to the guy who jumped off a cliff you've got
a problem too.

Ordinarily, I would have thought that.

Canada's huge trading advantage with the US (a dollar that historically
was valued at 75-80% of the US dollar) has been wiped away for the past
5 years. And even in spite of that, we're doing very well, with an
unemployment rate that's 1 or 2 points below yours, and a FED interest
rate that's sitting at 1% (not zero).

You've already jumped off the cliff, and you didn't take us with you.


Darn Homo Gay, why are you wasting your time with people so far beneath
you. Shouldn't you be spending your time communicating with superior
people from European countries basking in the bright sun of prosperity?
^_^

TDD

On Fri, 09 Nov 2012 09:27:38 -0500, Home Guy wrote:

rbowman wrote:

Because we (Canada) isin't committing economic and financial
suicide like you are.

When you're handcuffed to the guy who jumped off a cliff you've got
a problem too.

Ordinarily, I would have thought that.

Canada's huge trading advantage with the US (a dollar that historically
was valued at 75-80% of the US dollar) has been wiped away for the past
5 years. And even in spite of that, we're doing very well, with an
unemployment rate that's 1 or 2 points below yours, and a FED interest
rate that's sitting at 1% (not zero).

You've already jumped off the cliff, and you didn't take us with you.

Looks like the slack in the chain is starting to tighten up....

http://business.financialpost.com/20...owth-forecast/

Gunner

--
""The Democratic constituency is just like a herd of cows. All you have
to do is lay out enough silage and they come running. That’s why I
became an operative working with Democrats. With Democrats all you
have to do is make a lot of noise, lay out the hay, and be ready to
use the ole cattle prod in case a few want to bolt the herd.

Eighty percent of the people who call themselves Democrats don’t have
a clue as to political reality.
What amazes me is that you could take a group of people who are hard
workers and convince them that they should support social programs
that were the exact opposite of their own personal convictions. Put a
little fear here and there and you can get people to vote any way you
want.

The voter is basically dumb and lazy. The reason I became a Democratic
operative instead of a Republican was because there were more
Democrats that didn’t have a clue than there were Republicans."
James Carvell, DNC operative

On Fri, 09 Nov 2012 08:40:39 -0600, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

On 11/9/2012 8:27 AM, Homo Gay wrote:
rbowman wrote:

Because we (Canada) isin't committing economic and financial
suicide like you are.

When you're handcuffed to the guy who jumped off a cliff you've got
a problem too.

Ordinarily, I would have thought that.

Canada's huge trading advantage with the US (a dollar that historically
was valued at 75-80% of the US dollar) has been wiped away for the past
5 years. And even in spite of that, we're doing very well, with an
unemployment rate that's 1 or 2 points below yours, and a FED interest
rate that's sitting at 1% (not zero).

You've already jumped off the cliff, and you didn't take us with you.


Darn Homo Gay, why are you wasting your time with people so far beneath
you. Shouldn't you be spending your time communicating with superior
people from European countries basking in the bright sun of prosperity?
^_^

TDD

Yah..like the Greeks and the Spanish!

Gunner

--
""The Democratic constituency is just like a herd of cows. All you have
to do is lay out enough silage and they come running. That’s why I
became an operative working with Democrats. With Democrats all you
have to do is make a lot of noise, lay out the hay, and be ready to
use the ole cattle prod in case a few want to bolt the herd.

Eighty percent of the people who call themselves Democrats don’t have
a clue as to political reality.
What amazes me is that you could take a group of people who are hard
workers and convince them that they should support social programs
that were the exact opposite of their own personal convictions. Put a
little fear here and there and you can get people to vote any way you
want.

The voter is basically dumb and lazy. The reason I became a Democratic
operative instead of a Republican was because there were more
Democrats that didn’t have a clue than there were Republicans."
James Carvell, DNC operative

Another right wing fantasy??

Gunner wrote:
""The Democratic constituency is just like a herd of cows. All you have
to do is lay out enough silage and they come running. That's why I
became an operative working with Democrats. With Democrats all you
have to do is make a lot of noise, lay out the hay, and be ready to
use the ole cattle prod in case a few want to bolt the herd.

Eighty percent of the people who call themselves Democrats don't have
a clue as to political reality.
What amazes me is that you could take a group of people who are hard
workers and convince them that they should support social programs
that were the exact opposite of their own personal convictions. Put a
little fear here and there and you can get people to vote any way you
want.

The voter is basically dumb and lazy. The reason I became a Democratic
operative instead of a Republican was because there were more
Democrats that didn't have a clue than there were Republicans."
James Carvell, DNC operative

And then there's reality.

"Probably False"

http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/carville.asp

Gunner wrote:

[Gunner's properly delineated, but very long sig reproduced in part;]
The voter is basically dumb and lazy. The reason I became a Democratic
operative instead of a Republican was because there were more
Democrats that didn’t have a clue than there were Republicans."
James Carvell, DNC operative

I wasn't the only one who doubts he said that-
http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/carville.asp

At least spell his name right.

If you've got a source, I'm sure Snopes will consider it.

Jim

On Fri, 9 Nov 2012 10:16:37 -0800, "Bob F"
wrote:

Another right wing fantasy??

Gunner wrote:
""The Democratic constituency is just like a herd of cows. All you have
to do is lay out enough silage and they come running. That's why I
became an operative working with Democrats. With Democrats all you
have to do is make a lot of noise, lay out the hay, and be ready to
use the ole cattle prod in case a few want to bolt the herd.

Eighty percent of the people who call themselves Democrats don't have
a clue as to political reality.
What amazes me is that you could take a group of people who are hard
workers and convince them that they should support social programs
that were the exact opposite of their own personal convictions. Put a
little fear here and there and you can get people to vote any way you
want.

The voter is basically dumb and lazy. The reason I became a Democratic
operative instead of a Republican was because there were more
Democrats that didn't have a clue than there were Republicans."
James Carvell, DNC operative

And then there's reality.

"Probably False"

http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/carville.asp

But Im a registered Democrat. So whatever I say should be accepted at
some value of True. 5 generations of Democrats and their supporters
have proven that beyond any shadow of a doubt.

Want cites?

VBG

Please say yes...please....

VBG

So now that Ive shown Im untouchable..feel free to **** off.

Gunner

--
""The Democratic constituency is just like a herd of cows. All you have
to do is lay out enough silage and they come running. That’s why I
became an operative working with Democrats. With Democrats all you
have to do is make a lot of noise, lay out the hay, and be ready to
use the ole cattle prod in case a few want to bolt the herd.

Eighty percent of the people who call themselves Democrats don’t have
a clue as to political reality.
What amazes me is that you could take a group of people who are hard
workers and convince them that they should support social programs
that were the exact opposite of their own personal convictions. Put a
little fear here and there and you can get people to vote any way you
want.

The voter is basically dumb and lazy. The reason I became a Democratic
operative instead of a Republican was because there were more
Democrats that didn’t have a clue than there were Republicans."
James Carvell, DNC operative