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I'm helping a friend fix up some things in her house. A mystery switch
turned out to have no wires attached. It was just being used to fill
the third hole in a three-gang wall plate. This is in a part of the
house where a room had been added by a previous owner, thus the
"homeowner job" quality control.

I'd like to get rid of the mystery switch. I've searched at big box
stores and on the web, and I haven't found a wall plate that's
switch+switch+blank. (Specifically, it needs to be ivory, and the
switches are toggle ... even though every other room in the house is
white, rocker. Go figure.)

Any idea where to find such a wall plate, or suggestions for
alternatives?

I've considered some possibilities. 1) Of course there's always
putting it back like it was, but I don't like mystery switches. 2) I
could try carefully trimming two wall plates to meet on a straight
line, and if I were really good with a router, that might be the best
course, but I'm not that good. 3) I could convert this one room to
rocker switches to match the rest of the house, and possibly have a
better chance, though I had to go online even to find a duplex
rocker+blank two-gang plate for a similar situation in another room.
4) If I could find just a little plug to fill the toggle-switch-size
hole in the plate, I'd even be happy with that.

5) I'm not sure if I looked for a switch+switch+outlet plate, just
adding an outlet to fill the space, but it's in a bathroom and I think
I'd need to use a GFCI outlet (and would therefore require a
switch+switch+rectangle plate), plus I'm not sure if I identified a
neutral in the box. (I'm not there to look at it today.)

Thanks,

Edward
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I'm helping a friend fix up some things in her house. A mystery switch turned out to have no wires attached. It was just being used to fill the third hole in a three-gang wall plate. This is in a part of the house where a room had been added by a previous owner, thus the "homeowner job" quality control. I'd like to get rid of the mystery switch. I've searched at big box stores and on the web, and I haven't found a wall plate that's switch+switch+blank. (Specifically, it needs to be ivory, and the switches are toggle .... even though every other room in the house is white, rocker. Go figure.) Any idea where to find such a wall plate, or suggestions for alternatives? I've considered some possibilities. 1) Of course there's always putting it back like it was, but I don't like mystery switches. 2) I could try carefully trimming two wall plates to meet on a straight line, and if I were really good with a router, that might be the best course, but I'm not that good. 3) I could convert this one room to rocker switches to match the rest of the house, and possibly have a better chance, though I had to go online even to find a duplex rocker+blank two-gang plate for a similar situation in another room. 4) If I could find just a little plug to fill the toggle-switch-size hole in the plate, I'd even be happy with that. 5) I'm not sure if I looked for a switch+switch+outlet plate, just adding an outlet to fill the space, but it's in a bathroom and I think I'd need to use a GFCI outlet (and would therefore require a switch+switch+rectangle plate), plus I'm not sure if I identified a neutral in the box. (I'm not there to look at it today..) Thanks, Edward


For #5, http://www.switchhits.com/category/C...a-Switchplates
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For #5, http://www.switchhits.com/category/C...a-Switchplates


Nice, but no standard colors. Even in what they call "ivory", it's
made of Corian! And costs over $30 for ONE plate! I found various web
sites specializing in wall plates, but they all want to sell expensive
specialty plates, not normal ones. Of course if I were selling wall
plates, I'd want to sell expensive ones too ...

Edward
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For #5,http://www.switchhits.com/category/C...le-Decora-Swit...


Nice, but no standard colors. Even in what they call "ivory", it's
made of Corian! And costs over $30 for ONE plate! I found various web
sites specializing in wall plates, but they all want to sell expensive
specialty plates, not normal ones. Of course if I were selling wall
plates, I'd want to sell expensive ones too ...

Edward


Did you try a local electrical supply? Also Google is your
friend. Here is one I found in 15 secs:

http://www.kyledesigns.com/category/...panels_blanks/
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On 09/20/12 03:50 pm, Edward Reid wrote:
I'm helping a friend fix up some things in her house. A mystery switch
turned out to have no wires attached. It was just being used to fill
the third hole in a three-gang wall plate. This is in a part of the
house where a room had been added by a previous owner, thus the
"homeowner job" quality control.

I'd like to get rid of the mystery switch. I've searched at big box
stores and on the web, and I haven't found a wall plate that's
switch+switch+blank. (Specifically, it needs to be ivory, and the
switches are toggle ... even though every other room in the house is
white, rocker. Go figure.)

Any idea where to find such a wall plate, or suggestions for
alternatives?

I've considered some possibilities. 1) Of course there's always
putting it back like it was, but I don't like mystery switches. 2) I
could try carefully trimming two wall plates to meet on a straight
line, and if I were really good with a router, that might be the best
course, but I'm not that good. 3) I could convert this one room to
rocker switches to match the rest of the house, and possibly have a
better chance, though I had to go online even to find a duplex
rocker+blank two-gang plate for a similar situation in another room.
4) If I could find just a little plug to fill the toggle-switch-size
hole in the plate, I'd even be happy with that.

5) I'm not sure if I looked for a switch+switch+outlet plate, just
adding an outlet to fill the space, but it's in a bathroom and I think
I'd need to use a GFCI outlet (and would therefore require a
switch+switch+rectangle plate), plus I'm not sure if I identified a
neutral in the box. (I'm not there to look at it today.)


I don't remember where we got them years ago (maybe Lowe's), but we have
some "sectional" Decora-style plates that interlock: two switch plates
plus one blank plate. Perhaps there were "old-fashioned"-type switch
plates as well, but I don't remember.

Not cheap, but not outrageous. And aren't there also blanking inserts
for both "old-fashioned"-type switch plates and Decora-style switch plates?

Perce


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Did you try a local electrical supply? Also Google is your
friend. Here is one I found in 15 secs:


You DO realize, don't you, that *I* invented the phrase, "Google is your
friend"?




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I'm helping a friend fix up some things in her house. A mystery switch
turned out to have no wires attached. It was just being used to fill
the third hole in a three-gang wall plate. This is in a part of the
house where a room had been added by a previous owner, thus the
"homeowner job" quality control.

I'd like to get rid of the mystery switch. I've searched at big box
stores and on the web, and I haven't found a wall plate that's
switch+switch+blank. (Specifically, it needs to be ivory, and the
switches are toggle ... even though every other room in the house is
white, rocker. Go figure.)

Any idea where to find such a wall plate, or suggestions for
alternatives?

I've considered some possibilities. 1) Of course there's always
putting it back like it was, but I don't like mystery switches. 2) I
could try carefully trimming two wall plates to meet on a straight
line, and if I were really good with a router, that might be the best
course, but I'm not that good. 3) I could convert this one room to
rocker switches to match the rest of the house, and possibly have a
better chance, though I had to go online even to find a duplex
rocker+blank two-gang plate for a similar situation in another room.
4) If I could find just a little plug to fill the toggle-switch-size
hole in the plate, I'd even be happy with that.

5) I'm not sure if I looked for a switch+switch+outlet plate, just
adding an outlet to fill the space, but it's in a bathroom and I think
I'd need to use a GFCI outlet (and would therefore require a
switch+switch+rectangle plate), plus I'm not sure if I identified a
neutral in the box. (I'm not there to look at it today.)


You've got a router?

Make one.


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Edward:

You're not going to find a "switch-switch-blank" wall plate.

If I were you, I would contact these people in the great white North to send you a handful of 1 X1/2 inch tube finishing plugs.

Rectangular Tubing Plugs RC Series - Caps n Plugs

That company has a 1-800 phone number, so maybe someone at that end would know where you could get a 1" X 3/8" plastic cap or plug.

The hole in a standard switch plate is 1" X 3/8". You can cut off the ribs on one side of a 1/2 inch wide tube finishing cap and fit it into the third hole in your switch plate. Unfortunately, from what I can see, they only come in black, so it's gonna stand out against a white or ivory back ground.

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Did you try a local electrical supply? Also Google is your
friend. Here is one I found in 15 secs:


You DO realize, don't you, that *I* invented the phrase, "Google is your
friend"?


that's not what google says
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I'm helping a friend fix up some things in her house. A mystery switch
turned out to have no wires attached. It was just being used to fill
the third hole in a three-gang wall plate. This is in a part of the
house where a room had been added by a previous owner, thus the
"homeowner job" quality control.

I'd like to get rid of the mystery switch. I've searched at big box
stores and on the web, and I haven't found a wall plate that's
switch+switch+blank. (Specifically, it needs to be ivory, and the
switches are toggle ... even though every other room in the house is
white, rocker. Go figure.)

Any idea where to find such a wall plate, or suggestions for
alternatives?

I've considered some possibilities. 1) Of course there's always
putting it back like it was, but I don't like mystery switches. 2) I
could try carefully trimming two wall plates to meet on a straight
line, and if I were really good with a router, that might be the best
course, but I'm not that good. 3) I could convert this one room to
rocker switches to match the rest of the house, and possibly have a
better chance, though I had to go online even to find a duplex
rocker+blank two-gang plate for a similar situation in another room.
4) If I could find just a little plug to fill the toggle-switch-size
hole in the plate, I'd even be happy with that.

5) I'm not sure if I looked for a switch+switch+outlet plate, just
adding an outlet to fill the space, but it's in a bathroom and I think
I'd need to use a GFCI outlet (and would therefore require a
switch+switch+rectangle plate), plus I'm not sure if I identified a
neutral in the box. (I'm not there to look at it today.)

Thanks,

Edward


Just buy a blank hole filler yoke which will screw into
the box and fill the hole for the unknown unconnected
switch... The homeowner sounds like they installed
a larger box to make sure it was big enough...

Google "blank yoke switch filler"...

Stop going to the big box store for oddities in electrical
supply items, go to the local electrical supply house...


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I'm helping a friend fix up some things in her house. A mystery switch
turned out to have no wires attached. It was just being used to fill
the third hole in a three-gang wall plate. This is in a part of the
house where a room had been added by a previous owner, thus the
"homeowner job" quality control.

I'd like to get rid of the mystery switch. I've searched at big box
stores and on the web, and I haven't found a wall plate that's
switch+switch+blank. (Specifically, it needs to be ivory, and the
switches are toggle ... even though every other room in the house is
white, rocker. Go figure.)

Any idea where to find such a wall plate, or suggestions for
alternatives?

I've considered some possibilities. 1) Of course there's always
putting it back like it was, but I don't like mystery switches. 2) I
could try carefully trimming two wall plates to meet on a straight
line, and if I were really good with a router, that might be the best
course, but I'm not that good. 3) I could convert this one room to
rocker switches to match the rest of the house, and possibly have a
better chance, though I had to go online even to find a duplex
rocker+blank two-gang plate for a similar situation in another room.
4) If I could find just a little plug to fill the toggle-switch-size
hole in the plate, I'd even be happy with that.

5) I'm not sure if I looked for a switch+switch+outlet plate, just
adding an outlet to fill the space, but it's in a bathroom and I think
I'd need to use a GFCI outlet (and would therefore require a
switch+switch+rectangle plate), plus I'm not sure if I identified a
neutral in the box. (I'm not there to look at it today.)



*You need to shop where the electricians go, at an electrical supply
company. If they don't have that configuration in stock, it can be ordered.
Any configuration is available in any standard finish and I think the
maximum size is 20 gang.

Here's a Mulberry part number for a wrinkle finish ivory toggle/toggle/blank
wallplate: #99533
Ivory semigloss metal #84533
Princess ivory semigloss metal #74533

A blank filler plate is also available to fill in the toggle opening on the
existing wall plate.


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I'm helping a friend fix up some things in her house. A mystery switch
turned out to have no wires attached. It was just being used to fill
the third hole in a three-gang wall plate. This is in a part of the
house where a room had been added by a previous owner, thus the
"homeowner job" quality control.

I'd like to get rid of the mystery switch. I've searched at big box
stores and on the web, and I haven't found a wall plate that's
switch+switch+blank. (Specifically, it needs to be ivory, and the
switches are toggle ... even though every other room in the house is
white, rocker. Go figure.)

Any idea where to find such a wall plate, or suggestions for
alternatives?

I've considered some possibilities. 1) Of course there's always
putting it back like it was, but I don't like mystery switches. 2) I
could try carefully trimming two wall plates to meet on a straight
line, and if I were really good with a router, that might be the best
course, but I'm not that good. 3) I could convert this one room to
rocker switches to match the rest of the house, and possibly have a
better chance, though I had to go online even to find a duplex
rocker+blank two-gang plate for a similar situation in another room.
4) If I could find just a little plug to fill the toggle-switch-size
hole in the plate, I'd even be happy with that.

5) I'm not sure if I looked for a switch+switch+outlet plate, just
adding an outlet to fill the space, but it's in a bathroom and I think
I'd need to use a GFCI outlet (and would therefore require a
switch+switch+rectangle plate), plus I'm not sure if I identified a
neutral in the box. (I'm not there to look at it today.)



*You need to shop where the electricians go, at an electrical supply
company. If they don't have that configuration in stock, it can be
ordered. Any configuration is available in any standard finish and I think
the maximum size is 20 gang.

Here's a Mulberry part number for a wrinkle finish ivory
toggle/toggle/blank wallplate: #99533
Ivory semigloss metal #84533
Princess ivory semigloss metal #74533

A blank filler plate is also available to fill in the toggle opening on
the existing wall plate.


Not all distributors welcome walk-in DIY sales. You may have to buy a
minimum quantity or open an account to do business at the "city counter".
But, check on-line distributors such as Grainger too. I made friends with
an electrical contractor years ago and call his office when I need such
things. He just adds what I want to his daily order.

Tomsic


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Thanks, all. I've identified a couple of workable solutions thanks to
the replies.

Easiest is a Leviton Toggle Plastic Adapter Plate -- name may vary,
many sources, price as low as $3 but shipping always costly for a
single small item, so I've put

http://www.amazon.com/Leviton-80700-.../dp/B003F77RRO

in my shopping cart. I realized I'm not certain whether the color is
Light Almond or Ivory, but I'll probably have a chance to figure that
out before I get $25 worth of stuff in my cart. Wrong color wouldn't
really matter anyway for a small plug in a poorly lit location.

trader4 pointed me to a source for the complete plate. Thanks -- yes,
I googled it, but I obviously didn't have the right search terms ...
nowadays the best answer to a question is often just "here's the
search terms you need". I think the filler/adapter will be easier and
cheaper in this case, but knowing where to find a wider variety of
plates is a Good Thing.

Perce, I actually built a plate from those sectionals a few years ago,
but I couldn't find them when I was looking. Search terms again --
when I used "sectional" in my search, I found them. I probably got it
at Lowe's, and I'm pretty sure they don't carry it any more. Looks
like I don't need it this time, but still Good To Know.

And yeah, I should locate a Real electrical supply house. But this is
in another town and she may be moving soon anyway. And in my town,
most of the old time electric supply houses have closed. Must be one
left somewhere ...

Edward
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I'd like to get rid of the mystery switch. I've searched at big box
stores and on the web, and I haven't found a wall plate that's
switch+switch+blank. (Specifically, it needs to be ivory, and the
switches are toggle ... even though every other room in the house is
white, rocker. Go figure.)


Go to an electric supply company store. You can buy a blank switch to
fill one of the holes in the plate that you already have. All it is, is
a plastic square that is screwed in place of the switch and fills that
hole. I doubt you will even find a switch plate with one blank space.

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I'd like to get rid of the mystery switch. I've searched at big box
stores and on the web, and I haven't found a wall plate that's
switch+switch+blank. (Specifically, it needs to be ivory, and the
switches are toggle ... even though every other room in the house is
white, rocker. Go figure.)


Go to an electric supply company store. *You can buy a blank switch to
fill one of the holes in the plate that you already have. *All it is, is
a plastic square that is screwed in place of the switch and fills that
hole. *I doubt you will even find a switch plate with one blank space.


I already provided a link to the switch plate days ago.
They are available and not hard to find with google.


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I'd like to get rid of the mystery switch. I've searched at big box
stores and on the web, and I haven't found a wall plate that's
switch+switch+blank. (Specifically, it needs to be ivory, and the
switches are toggle ..


HD used to sell modular pieces you could snap together and make a
custom plate. I did this once and the results were good. I'd check
there for appropriate pieces.

Think of it as custom boutique design for wall plates.
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I'd like to get rid of the mystery switch.


I installed one when I couldn't find a single switch + blank cover
that wasn't 2 pieces.
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On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 15:50:35 -0400, Edward Reid
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I'd like to get rid of the mystery switch. I've searched at big box
stores and on the web, and I haven't found a wall plate that's
switch+switch+blank. (Specifically, it needs to be ivory, and the
switches are toggle ..


HD used to sell modular pieces you could snap together and make a
custom plate. I did this once and the results were good. I'd check
there for appropriate pieces.

Think of it as custom boutique design for wall plates.


Search for modular blank wallplate on HD web and then for the other
plates. A couple of bucks each.
http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1...&storeId=10051
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On 9/20/2012 2:50 PM, Edward Reid wrote:
I'm helping a friend fix up some things in her house. A mystery switch
turned out to have no wires attached. It was just being used to fill
the third hole in a three-gang wall plate. This is in a part of the
house where a room had been added by a previous owner, thus the
"homeowner job" quality control.

I'd like to get rid of the mystery switch. I've searched at big box
stores and on the web, and I haven't found a wall plate that's
switch+switch+blank. (Specifically, it needs to be ivory, and the
switches are toggle ... even though every other room in the house is
white, rocker. Go figure.)

Any idea where to find such a wall plate, or suggestions for
alternatives?

I've considered some possibilities. 1) Of course there's always
putting it back like it was, but I don't like mystery switches. 2) I
could try carefully trimming two wall plates to meet on a straight
line, and if I were really good with a router, that might be the best
course, but I'm not that good. 3) I could convert this one room to
rocker switches to match the rest of the house, and possibly have a
better chance, though I had to go online even to find a duplex
rocker+blank two-gang plate for a similar situation in another room.
4) If I could find just a little plug to fill the toggle-switch-size
hole in the plate, I'd even be happy with that.

5) I'm not sure if I looked for a switch+switch+outlet plate, just
adding an outlet to fill the space, but it's in a bathroom and I think
I'd need to use a GFCI outlet (and would therefore require a
switch+switch+rectangle plate), plus I'm not sure if I identified a
neutral in the box. (I'm not there to look at it today.)

Thanks,

Edward


Hook the mystery switch to an Edwards fire horn and label the switch,
"DO NOT TOUCH". ^_^

TDD


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Hook the mystery switch to an Edwards fire horn and label the switch,
"DO NOT TOUCH". ^_^

TDD


I did one sort of like that once. I put in a dummy switch and a little
red LED (neither connected to anything). I then labeled the thing "deity
detector", with a sensitivity of 5uD (meaning 5 millionths of a supreme
being could light the LED). The switch doesn't do anything, but flip it
occaisionally to get the supreme being's attention and see if the LED
lights.

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I did one sort of like that once. I put in a dummy switch and a little
red LED (neither connected to anything). I then labeled the thing "deity
detector", with a sensitivity of 5uD (meaning 5 millionths of a supreme
being could light the LED). The switch doesn't do anything, but flip it
occaisionally to get the supreme being's attention and see if the LED
lights.



At work we had a molding machine with a control panel that was
modified at one time. A toggle switch was installed, but when the
panel was changed back, the switch was left in place, connected to
nothing.

Once in a while, the operator on that machine would have a complaint,
the parts are coming out too fast, I'm too hot, there are too hard to
pack, whatever. We'd go over to the machine (that was running
properly) and show concern. Then make a big deal that the switch was
in the wrong position. Flip the switch, walk away and suddenly all
was right with the world and the operator was happy.
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I did one sort of like that once. I put in a dummy switch and a little
red LED (neither connected to anything). I then labeled the thing "deity
detector", with a sensitivity of 5uD (meaning 5 millionths of a supreme
being could light the LED). The switch doesn't do anything, but flip it
occaisionally to get the supreme being's attention and see if the LED
lights.



At work we had a molding machine with a control panel that was
modified at one time. A toggle switch was installed, but when the
panel was changed back, the switch was left in place, connected to
nothing.

Once in a while, the operator on that machine would have a complaint,
the parts are coming out too fast, I'm too hot, there are too hard to
pack, whatever. We'd go over to the machine (that was running
properly) and show concern. Then make a big deal that the switch was
in the wrong position. Flip the switch, walk away and suddenly all
was right with the world and the operator was happy.



By Gosh !

A PLACEBO SWITCH..




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I'm helping a friend fix up some things in her house. A mystery switch
turned out to have no wires attached. It was just being used to fill
the third hole in a three-gang wall plate. This is in a part of the
house where a room had been added by a previous owner, thus the
"homeowner job" quality control.

I'd like to get rid of the mystery switch. I've searched at big box
stores and on the web, and I haven't found a wall plate that's
switch+switch+blank. (Specifically, it needs to be ivory, and the
switches are toggle ... even though every other room in the house is
white, rocker. Go figure.)

Any idea where to find such a wall plate, or suggestions for
alternatives?

I've considered some possibilities. 1) Of course there's always
putting it back like it was, but I don't like mystery switches. 2) I
could try carefully trimming two wall plates to meet on a straight
line, and if I were really good with a router, that might be the best
course, but I'm not that good. 3) I could convert this one room to
rocker switches to match the rest of the house, and possibly have a
better chance, though I had to go online even to find a duplex
rocker+blank two-gang plate for a similar situation in another room.
4) If I could find just a little plug to fill the toggle-switch-size
hole in the plate, I'd even be happy with that.

5) I'm not sure if I looked for a switch+switch+outlet plate, just
adding an outlet to fill the space, but it's in a bathroom and I think
I'd need to use a GFCI outlet (and would therefore require a
switch+switch+rectangle plate), plus I'm not sure if I identified a
neutral in the box. (I'm not there to look at it today.)

Thanks,

Edward


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On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 08:54:33 -0500, "Atila Iskander"
wrote:

At work we had a molding machine with a control panel that was
modified at one time. A toggle switch was installed, but when the
panel was changed back, the switch was left in place, connected to
nothing.

Once in a while, the operator on that machine would have a complaint,
the parts are coming out too fast, I'm too hot, there are too hard to
pack, whatever. We'd go over to the machine (that was running
properly) and show concern. Then make a big deal that the switch was
in the wrong position. Flip the switch, walk away and suddenly all
was right with the world and the operator was happy.



By Gosh !

A PLACEBO SWITCH..


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