I plan on making a change (per the bride) this weekend to my from steps. They are currently on the side of the front porch, but she would like them centered in the front so we can sit on either side and she can see her garden.

jtp,

Most manufacturers have installation videos on their web-sites. YouTube
also has installation videos.
Not only sage advice but thymely, too

Dave M.

On 3/13/2012 12:37 PM, jtpr wrote:
I plan on making a change (per the bride) this weekend to my from steps.
[snip]
-Jim

Tell your bride to STFU and watch DIYNetwork.

She'll see there are women there that can actually remodel their own
frickin porches, kitchens and bathrooms.

I suspect it would be absolute heaven to be married to Amy Matthews. Her
husband is a very lucky man. ;-)

On 3/13/2012 5:58 PM, Dave M. wrote:
jtp,

Most manufacturers have installation videos on their web-sites. YouTube
also has installation videos.
Not only sage advice but thymely, too

Dave M.


Um, Dave, do you have a lisp? o_O

TDD

I'm waiting till he gets to cinammonly advice, and then I'll buy.

On the other thand, there mutht be thumthing to that whith thou sayeth.

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Not only sage advice but thymely, too

Dave M.


Um, Dave, do you have a lisp? o_O

TDD

I've never worked with this kind of thing.

You could ask at the hardware store, bring some pictures along.

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I plan on making a change (per the bride) this weekend to my from steps.
They are currently on the side of the front porch, but she would like them
centered in the front so we can sit on either side and she can see her
garden.

Anyway, these are some pics of the current layout:

http://jtpryan.smugmug.com/House/Dec...1919393_FP6WCW

As you can see it is all procell/azek/pvc. It doesn't appear to be that
difficult and in fact I may be able to use quite a bit of the current
railings. Essentially I will remove the steps from the current location and
place them in the middle of the front (that is about an 8ft span. Then cut
out 4 ft of railing and move it to the side where the steps currently are.
I'll have to buy a couple of posts to anchor each side of what is left of
the front railings, and one more to anchor the side.

But I can't see how to disassemble the railings. There are no clips so I
thing the top comes off somehow to get at them. People have told me they
slide off, but of course I can't do that as they are currently terminated at
posts.

So if anybody has any sage advice for this project I would greatly
appreciate it.

-Jim

On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 5:37:12 AM UTC-4, Joe wrote:
On 3/13/2012 12:37 PM, jtpr wrote:
I plan on making a change (per the bride) this weekend to my from steps.
[snip]
-Jim

Tell your bride to STFU and watch DIYNetwork.

She'll see there are women there that can actually remodel their own
frickin porches, kitchens and bathrooms.

I suspect it would be absolute heaven to be married to Amy Matthews. Her
husband is a very lucky man. ;-)

Yeah, sure. Then I'd be putting in a wheelchair ramp instead of stairs.

Problem with Amy is as soon as she put that tool belt on I'd do whatever she asked.

-Jim

On 3/14/2012 8:17 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
I'm waiting till he gets to cinammonly advice, and then I'll buy.

On the other thand, there mutht be thumthing to that whith thou sayeth.


I cooked some rice last night and put some ground sage in it. ^_^

TDD

On Mar 14, 3:37 am, Joe wrote:

I suspect it would be absolute heaven to be married to Amy Matthews. Her
husband is a very lucky man. ;-)

I'm married to her a couple times a week. She doesn't know
about it tho. :)))

On Mar 14, 9:50*am, The Daring Dufas
wrote:
On 3/14/2012 8:17 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:

I'm waiting till he gets to cinammonly advice, and then I'll buy.

On the other thand, there mutht be thumthing to that whith thou sayeth.

I cooked some rice last night and put some ground sage in it. ^_^

TDD

An 1835 Typographical Error:

"The supplies for the General Store will be arriving on the 6:00 sage
coach."

On Mar 13, 12:37*pm, jtpr wrote:
I plan on making a change (per the bride) this weekend to my from steps. *They are currently on the side of the front porch, but she would like them centered in the front so we can sit on either side and she can see her garden.

Anyway, these are some pics of the current layout:

http://jtpryan.smugmug.com/House/Dec...1919393_FP6WCW

As you can see it is all procell/azek/pvc. *It doesn't appear to be that difficult and in fact I may be able to use quite a bit of the current railings. *Essentially I will remove the steps from the current location and place them in the middle of the front (that is about an 8ft span. *Then cut out 4 ft of railing and move it to the side where the steps currently are. *I'll have to buy a couple of posts to anchor each side of what is left of the front railings, and one more to anchor the side.

But I can't see how to disassemble the railings. There are no clips so I thing the top comes off somehow to get at them. *People have told me they slide off, but of course I can't do that as they are currently terminated at posts.

So if anybody has any sage advice for this project I would greatly appreciate it.

-Jim

@Jim:

That looks like a very nice "district" that you live in...

I would ask if you need permission from a "historic
district commission" to make a change in appearance
like the one you are proposing...

Also it won't be as simple as "just moving the stairs"
as you will have to dig new footings to support the
base of the staircase and that kind of work requires
a building permit and inspections...

So I would investigate what requirements you are
bound by, this isn't a unscrew it and move it job,
quite a bit more to it than that and it will cost more
than you expect to do correctly...

~~ Evan

On 3/14/2012 10:44 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Mar 14, 9:50 am, The Daring
wrote:
On 3/14/2012 8:17 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:

I'm waiting till he gets to cinammonly advice, and then I'll buy.

On the other thand, there mutht be thumthing to that whith thou sayeth.

I cooked some rice last night and put some ground sage in it. ^_^

TDD

An 1835 Typographical Error:

"The supplies for the General Store will be arriving on the 6:00 sage
coach."

AM or PM? o_O

TDD

On 3/14/2012 9:02 AM, Evan wrote:
On Mar 13, 12:37 pm, wrote:
I plan on making a change (per the bride) this weekend to my from steps. They are currently on the side of the front porch, but she would like them centered in the front so we can sit on either side and she can see her garden.

Anyway, these are some pics of the current layout:

http://jtpryan.smugmug.com/House/Dec...1919393_FP6WCW

As you can see it is all procell/azek/pvc. It doesn't appear to be that difficult and in fact I may be able to use quite a bit of the current railings. Essentially I will remove the steps from the current location and place them in the middle of the front (that is about an 8ft span. Then cut out 4 ft of railing and move it to the side where the steps currently are. I'll have to buy a couple of posts to anchor each side of what is left of the front railings, and one more to anchor the side.

But I can't see how to disassemble the railings. There are no clips so I thing the top comes off somehow to get at them. People have told me they slide off, but of course I can't do that as they are currently terminated at posts.

So if anybody has any sage advice for this project I would greatly appreciate it.

-Jim

@Jim:

That looks like a very nice "district" that you live in...

I would ask if you need permission from a "historic
district commission" to make a change in appearance
like the one you are proposing...

Also it won't be as simple as "just moving the stairs"
as you will have to dig new footings to support the
base of the staircase and that kind of work requires
a building permit and inspections...


they apparently are wooden stairs, and may not have complete footings.
it may simply be a matter of unscrewing them and moving them to a new
location, then reattaching them to the porch.

So I would investigate what requirements you are
bound by, this isn't a unscrew it and move it job,
quite a bit more to it than that and it will cost more
than you expect to do correctly...

~~ Evan

On Mar 14, 12:02*pm, Evan wrote:
On Mar 13, 12:37*pm, jtpr wrote:

I plan on making a change (per the bride) this weekend to my from steps.. *They are currently on the side of the front porch, but she would like them centered in the front so we can sit on either side and she can see her garden.

Anyway, these are some pics of the current layout:

http://jtpryan.smugmug.com/House/Dec...1919393_FP6WCW

As you can see it is all procell/azek/pvc. *It doesn't appear to be that difficult and in fact I may be able to use quite a bit of the current railings. *Essentially I will remove the steps from the current location and place them in the middle of the front (that is about an 8ft span. *Then cut out 4 ft of railing and move it to the side where the steps currently are. *I'll have to buy a couple of posts to anchor each side of what is left of the front railings, and one more to anchor the side.

But I can't see how to disassemble the railings. There are no clips so I thing the top comes off somehow to get at them. *People have told me they slide off, but of course I can't do that as they are currently terminated at posts.

So if anybody has any sage advice for this project I would greatly appreciate it.

-Jim

@Jim:

That looks like a very nice "district" that you live in...

I would ask if you need permission from a "historic
district commission" to make a change in appearance
like the one you are proposing...

Also it won't be as simple as "just moving the stairs"
as you will have to dig new footings to support the
base of the staircase and that kind of work requires
a building permit and inspections...

So I would investigate what requirements you are
bound by, this isn't a unscrew it and move it job,
quite a bit more to it than that and it will cost more
than you expect to do correctly...

~~ Evan

Footings may or may not be a major issue.

Over 20 years ago I built a deck with a set of stairs consisting of 10
steps up to a landing.

I dug down into the sandy soil deep enough to place two 8" x 16" patio
blocks under each of the 3 stringers, level with the ground.

4 kids later, countless parties and thousands of trips up and down the
stairs - they haven't moved at all.

I guess it all depends on the surface upon which the stairs will land.

On Wednesday, March 14, 2012 12:02:12 PM UTC-4, Evan wrote:
On Mar 13, 12:37*pm, jtpr wrote:
I plan on making a change (per the bride) this weekend to my from steps.. *They are currently on the side of the front porch, but she would like them centered in the front so we can sit on either side and she can see her garden.

Anyway, these are some pics of the current layout:

http://jtpryan.smugmug.com/House/Dec...1919393_FP6WCW

As you can see it is all procell/azek/pvc. *It doesn't appear to be that difficult and in fact I may be able to use quite a bit of the current railings. *Essentially I will remove the steps from the current location and place them in the middle of the front (that is about an 8ft span. *Then cut out 4 ft of railing and move it to the side where the steps currently are. *I'll have to buy a couple of posts to anchor each side of what is left of the front railings, and one more to anchor the side.

But I can't see how to disassemble the railings. There are no clips so I thing the top comes off somehow to get at them. *People have told me they slide off, but of course I can't do that as they are currently terminated at posts.

So if anybody has any sage advice for this project I would greatly appreciate it.

-Jim

@Jim:

That looks like a very nice "district" that you live in...

I would ask if you need permission from a "historic
district commission" to make a change in appearance
like the one you are proposing...

Also it won't be as simple as "just moving the stairs"
as you will have to dig new footings to support the
base of the staircase and that kind of work requires
a building permit and inspections...

So I would investigate what requirements you are
bound by, this isn't a unscrew it and move it job,
quite a bit more to it than that and it will cost more
than you expect to do correctly...

~~ Evan

Evan,

Good eye. Yes, there is an historic district committee here. I dealt with them when I did the original renovations on the house (added a second floor, etc). They are not unreasonable. They go a lot easier on me because it is a 1930's bungalow, not 1600 and 1700 like the rest of the houses around me.

Anyway, I'm not going to go through it all again, I'm just going to go for it. I have very good relationships with all my neighbors and they don't really care. The stairs will sit on a patio block footing as the ground is mostly ledge anyway, and that is all that is under them now. The construction is all Azek and Procell. The current stairs have been there 4 years so I don't see any reason to change the way they are "footed" in moving them.

But thank you for pointing it out, and I will pay attention to it.

-Jim