My wife and I and 2 (now left the nest) children have lived in this
house for 46 years. City water, septic tank and leach field. I had
the tank pumped every few years when the kids were at home, now for
just the 2 of us, I have it pumped every 5 years. Never had sludge
build up anywhere near the outlet level, but we are very careful not
to flush anything that we do not believe is biodegradeable, like sand,
plastic scraps, etc.

Ny wife is thinking that it is time for us to get a garbage disposal,
to avoid having to clean carrot and potato peelings out of the sink,
etc. I am a little concerned about the added strain on the septic
tank and whether we should proceed with my installing a disposal or
not.

All polite opinions warmly welcomed, expecially if you have any first-
hand experience.

On Wed, 7 Dec 2011 19:53:51 -0800 (PST), "hr(bob) "
wrote:

My wife and I and 2 (now left the nest) children have lived in this
house for 46 years. City water, septic tank and leach field. I had
the tank pumped every few years when the kids were at home, now for
just the 2 of us, I have it pumped every 5 years. Never had sludge
build up anywhere near the outlet level, but we are very careful not
to flush anything that we do not believe is biodegradeable, like sand,
plastic scraps, etc.

Ny wife is thinking that it is time for us to get a garbage disposal,
to avoid having to clean carrot and potato peelings out of the sink,
etc. I am a little concerned about the added strain on the septic
tank and whether we should proceed with my installing a disposal or
not.

All polite opinions warmly welcomed, expecially if you have any first-
hand experience.

What's the problem? The stuff from the disposer is just a little less
"digested". The tank will do a fine job of it, too.

"hr(bob) " wrote:

Ny wife is thinking that it is time for us to get a garbage disposal,
to avoid having to clean carrot and potato peelings out of the sink,
etc. I am a little concerned about the added strain on the septic
tank and whether we should proceed with my installing a disposal or
not.

All polite opinions warmly welcomed, expecially if you have any first-
hand experience.

People have them and they can be a feature that appeals to someone who has never
lived with a septic system before. So it may make resale easier. OTOH it
wouldn't be a factor for me to add a $50 grinder if it was missing. Bottom line
is that it will reduce time between pumping and the life of the field. Your call
if it's worth it.

http://www.epa.gov/nrmrl/pubs/625r00008/html/fs2.htm

On Dec 7, 10:16*pm, Robert Neville wrote:
"hr(bob) " wrote:
Ny wife is thinking that it is time for us to get a garbage disposal,
to avoid having to clean carrot and potato peelings out of the sink,
etc. *I am a little concerned about the added strain on the septic
tank and whether we should proceed with my installing a disposal or
not.

All polite opinions warmly welcomed, expecially if you have any first-
hand experience.

People have them and they can be a feature that appeals to someone who has never
lived with a septic system before. So it may make resale easier. OTOH it
wouldn't be a factor for me to add a $50 grinder if it was missing. Bottom line
is that it will reduce time between pumping and the life of the field. Your call
if it's worth it.

http://www.epa.gov/nrmrl/pubs/625r00008/html/fs2.htm

My feelings exactly, for the two of us it would not overload the
system organically, but I would probably double the frequency of
having the tank pumped of sludge and solids. The reselling point is
one my wife who is a Realtor has mentioned more than once, even though
we have no plans for selling in the near future.

On Wed, 07 Dec 2011 21:16:41 -0700, Robert Neville
wrote:

"hr(bob) " wrote:

Ny wife is thinking that it is time for us to get a garbage disposal,
to avoid having to clean carrot and potato peelings out of the sink,
etc. I am a little concerned about the added strain on the septic
tank and whether we should proceed with my installing a disposal or
not.

All polite opinions warmly welcomed, expecially if you have any first-
hand experience.

People have them and they can be a feature that appeals to someone who has never
lived with a septic system before. So it may make resale easier. OTOH it
wouldn't be a factor for me to add a $50 grinder if it was missing. Bottom line
is that it will reduce time between pumping and the life of the field. Your call
if it's worth it.

http://www.epa.gov/nrmrl/pubs/625r00008/html/fs2.htm

I've had one for 28 years, replaced it 2 times, used it 5 times. How
about if you rely on the strainer in the sink and run the water to
rinse the peelings into the strainer. Maybe one of those white
plastic strainers is easier to wipe off than a metal strainer. Just a
guess.

given what the costs are to repair or replace a septic system i
wouldnt get a disposal.

you might get away with it but say the septic devlops a problem you
wouldnt want to blame your wife, for perhaps having cost 10, 20, or 30
grand.

a septic tank problem can easily make you upgrade it to current code.
that could mean a whole new system

On Wed, 7 Dec 2011 19:53:51 -0800 (PST), "hr(bob) "
wrote:


Ny wife is thinking that it is time for us to get a garbage disposal,
to avoid having to clean carrot and potato peelings out of the sink,
etc. I am a little concerned about the added strain on the septic
tank and whether we should proceed with my installing a disposal or
not.

It can work. I'd use care though. We have a disposal and city sewer,
but I still put little down the drain. It is just as easy to put 90%
of the waste either in the trash or on a compost pile.

I'd increase the frequency of pumping too. My son had to replace his
septic system, but it was never quite determined what the real problem
was and if the disposal was a contributing factor. Some was probably
neglect by the previous owners over the years.

There are disposals made specific for septic tanks so you may want to
check them out.

"hr(bob) " wrote in message
...
My wife and I and 2 (now left the nest) children have lived in this
house for 46 years. City water, septic tank and leach field. I had
the tank pumped every few years when the kids were at home, now for
just the 2 of us, I have it pumped every 5 years. Never had sludge
build up anywhere near the outlet level, but we are very careful not
to flush anything that we do not believe is biodegradeable, like sand,
plastic scraps, etc.

Ny wife is thinking that it is time for us to get a garbage disposal,
to avoid having to clean carrot and potato peelings out of the sink,
etc. I am a little concerned about the added strain on the septic
tank and whether we should proceed with my installing a disposal or
not.

All polite opinions warmly welcomed, expecially if you have any first-
hand experience.

For 17 years, we have had our septic system (put in when we built the
house). We have a garbage disposal, and use it daily. Just a few months
ago we had the tank pumped out for the first time. No reason other than we
thought it was time. The guy said it looks like everything is working
fine - level is right where it should be.

So, based on our experience, there is no problem.

Bob-tx

hr(bob) wrote:
My wife and I and 2 (now left the nest) children have lived in this
house for 46 years. City water, septic tank and leach field. I had
the tank pumped every few years when the kids were at home, now for
just the 2 of us, I have it pumped every 5 years. Never had sludge
build up anywhere near the outlet level, but we are very careful not
to flush anything that we do not believe is biodegradeable, like sand,
plastic scraps, etc.

Ny wife is thinking that it is time for us to get a garbage disposal,
to avoid having to clean carrot and potato peelings out of the sink,
etc. I am a little concerned about the added strain on the septic
tank and whether we should proceed with my installing a disposal or
not.

All polite opinions warmly welcomed, expecially if you have any first-
hand experience.

Best answer I can think of is, it depends.

It depends upon how much stuff you put down the disposal. If you live on
carrot and potato soup you might do better scraping/peeling over an old
newspaper and tossing the newspaper.

It depends upon what you put down it. Banana peels, no problem; egg shells,
problem. Maybe coffee grounds too?

We have a septic system. We also have a garbage disposal. The latter
doesn't get a lot of use. I had the septic tank - 1000 gallon - pumped
after seven years; I should have saved my money, made a mental note to
*consider* having it pumped again in fifteen years.

I pity the folks spending 10-30K on a septic system. Around here - sand for
soil - a gravity system with 1000 gallon concrete tank plus drain field
should cost $2500 maxmum and the contractor would be smiling.

--

dadiOH
____________________________

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hr(bob) wrote:
My wife and I and 2 (now left the nest) children have lived in this
house for 46 years. City water, septic tank and leach field. I had
the tank pumped every few years when the kids were at home, now for
just the 2 of us, I have it pumped every 5 years. Never had sludge
build up anywhere near the outlet level, but we are very careful not
to flush anything that we do not believe is biodegradeable, like sand,
plastic scraps, etc.

Ny wife is thinking that it is time for us to get a garbage disposal,
to avoid having to clean carrot and potato peelings out of the sink,
etc. I am a little concerned about the added strain on the septic
tank and whether we should proceed with my installing a disposal or
not.

All polite opinions warmly welcomed, expecially if you have any first-
hand experience.

There's really no choice. You MUST humor the wife.

Your choices now are not whether, but how. Specifically, you have to find
the best disposal for your situation, re-calibrate how often to pump, and
visit what enzymes, chemicals, or small furry animals you need to add to the
system to minimize problems.

Ed Pawlowski wrote:

There are disposals made specific for septic tanks so you may want to
check them out.

I saw those... they're new. The fact that they grind finer (if they do) may be
good, may be not. One of the problem with gindings is that can plug your field.
Ginding finer could make that happen faster instead of keeping the gindings in
the tank where they can decompose.

The "juice" that these grinders insert is a joke and just an attempt to get a
regular revenue stream from the owner.

"dadiOH" wrote:

I pity the folks spending 10-30K on a septic system. Around here - sand for
soil - a gravity system with 1000 gallon concrete tank plus drain field
should cost $2500 maxmum and the contractor would be smiling.

Unfortunately, some soils don't support a standard field, so code requires an
advanced treatment unit. We have one and they aren't kidding. Three chambers.
First one is a standard anerobic tank called the waste tank. It feeds a second
chamber with an air compressor bubbler for aerobic action. It feeds a third
settling tank, which has a pump that drives a spider pipe system over engineered
fill. And yes, it cost about $15K.

On 12/7/2011 10:53 PM, hr(bob) wrote:
My wife and I and 2 (now left the nest) children have lived in this
house for 46 years. City water, septic tank and leach field. I had
the tank pumped every few years when the kids were at home, now for
just the 2 of us, I have it pumped every 5 years. Never had sludge
build up anywhere near the outlet level, but we are very careful not
to flush anything that we do not believe is biodegradeable, like sand,
plastic scraps, etc.

Ny wife is thinking that it is time for us to get a garbage disposal,
to avoid having to clean carrot and potato peelings out of the sink,
etc. I am a little concerned about the added strain on the septic
tank and whether we should proceed with my installing a disposal or
not.

All polite opinions warmly welcomed, expecially if you have any first-
hand experience.

We've always had one but don't feed it bulk items like potato peels -
just the stuff that escapes the strainer on the sink. Anything that can
get put in trash, gets put in trash.

On Dec 8, 9:37*am, Frank wrote:
On 12/7/2011 10:53 PM, hr(bob) wrote:





My wife and I and 2 (now left the nest) children have lived in this
house for 46 years. *City water, septic tank and leach field. *I *had
the tank pumped every few years when the kids were at home, now for
just the 2 of us, I have it pumped every 5 years. *Never had sludge
build up anywhere near the outlet level, but we are very careful not
to flush anything that we do not believe is biodegradeable, like sand,
plastic scraps, etc.

Ny wife is thinking that it is time for us to get a garbage disposal,
to avoid having to clean carrot and potato peelings out of the sink,
etc. *I am a little concerned about the added strain on the septic
tank and whether we should proceed with my installing a disposal or
not.

All polite opinions warmly welcomed, expecially if you have any first-
hand experience.

We've always had one but don't feed it bulk items like potato peels -
just the stuff that escapes the strainer on the sink. *Anything that can
get put in trash, gets put in trash.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

On sewer system here, but that's how I use mine too.
After peeling vegs for example, I scoop up the large
stuff and it goes in the trash. The remainder gets
washed down the disposal.

On Wed, 7 Dec 2011 19:53:51 -0800 (PST), "hr(bob) "
wrote:

My wife and I and 2 (now left the nest) children have lived in this
house for 46 years. City water, septic tank and leach field. I had
the tank pumped every few years when the kids were at home, now for
just the 2 of us, I have it pumped every 5 years. Never had sludge
build up anywhere near the outlet level, but we are very careful not
to flush anything that we do not believe is biodegradeable, like sand,
plastic scraps, etc.

Ny wife is thinking that it is time for us to get a garbage disposal,
to avoid having to clean carrot and potato peelings out of the sink,
etc. I am a little concerned about the added strain on the septic
tank and whether we should proceed with my installing a disposal or
not.

All polite opinions warmly welcomed, expecially if you have any first-
hand experience.

We presently have a disposal installed with the same scenario, city water, on
site sewerage, and only tow people. The system was pumped for the first time in
eight years this summer.

In a previous house, we had a disposal with and old fashioned cesspool with no
drainage field. That one had to be pumped every four to six weeks due to a
high, very high, water table. No clue if the disposal ever filled that on up.
The water sure did.

__________________
Bill Waller
New Eagle, PA

On Dec 8, 3:55*am, micky wrote:
* How
about if you rely on the strainer in the sink and run the water to
rinse the peelings into the strainer. * Maybe one of those white
plastic strainers is easier to wipe off than a metal strainer. *Just a
guess.

How about peeling the carrots and potatoes right over the trash can,
on to a large flexible plastic cutting board, or over a work bowl
instead of the sink?

At most you simply have to dump the work bowl or cutting board into
the trash can.

For those of you that say "ewwww, gross!" to the idea of peeling
directly over the trash can, it doesn't have to be a can full of week-
old rotting food. Trash bags are cheap. Put a fresh one in, and don't
stick the veggies right in the can. Work ABOVE the can.... For
crissake, you're gonna wash the veggies and boil the snot out of them
in a few minutes anyway. Hell, they came out of the DIRT which is
chock full of live critters and rotting poo and bacteria. Ain't any
worse than a fresh clean new garbage bag.

"HeyBub" wrote in message
...
hr(bob) wrote:
My wife and I and 2 (now left the nest) children have lived in this
house for 46 years. City water, septic tank and leach field. I had
the tank pumped every few years when the kids were at home, now for
just the 2 of us, I have it pumped every 5 years. Never had sludge
build up anywhere near the outlet level, but we are very careful not
to flush anything that we do not believe is biodegradeable, like sand,
plastic scraps, etc.

Ny wife is thinking that it is time for us to get a garbage disposal,
to avoid having to clean carrot and potato peelings out of the sink,
etc. I am a little concerned about the added strain on the septic
tank and whether we should proceed with my installing a disposal or
not.

All polite opinions warmly welcomed, expecially if you have any first-
hand experience.

There's really no choice. You MUST humor the wife.

Actually, you have to humor your local government. Septic regs have
tightened a lot in the past few years, disposal units may or may not be
outlawed. Real Estate sales people may know what buyers want, but often no
little or nothing about building codes. Some areas require them, sale allow
them, some prohibit them, you don't want to sell a house that contravenes
the code and "could" cause problems for the buyers to blame on you.

On 12/8/2011 9:44 AM, wrote:
On Dec 8, 9:37 am, wrote:
On 12/7/2011 10:53 PM, hr(bob) wrote:





My wife and I and 2 (now left the nest) children have lived in this
house for 46 years. City water, septic tank and leach field. I had
the tank pumped every few years when the kids were at home, now for
just the 2 of us, I have it pumped every 5 years. Never had sludge
build up anywhere near the outlet level, but we are very careful not
to flush anything that we do not believe is biodegradeable, like sand,
plastic scraps, etc.

Ny wife is thinking that it is time for us to get a garbage disposal,
to avoid having to clean carrot and potato peelings out of the sink,
etc. I am a little concerned about the added strain on the septic
tank and whether we should proceed with my installing a disposal or
not.

All polite opinions warmly welcomed, expecially if you have any first-
hand experience.

We've always had one but don't feed it bulk items like potato peels -
just the stuff that escapes the strainer on the sink. Anything that can
get put in trash, gets put in trash.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

On sewer system here, but that's how I use mine too.
After peeling vegs for example, I scoop up the large
stuff and it goes in the trash. The remainder gets
washed down the disposal.

I almost added that my first house was on a sewer system and I made the
mistake of figuring I'd get rid of some smelly crab shells by putting
down disposal and I clogged the pipe. Fortunately I got it snaked out
without a plumber but learned my lesson that disposals should not be
used for bulk garbage disposal.

We have a garbage grinder on a septic system and have used it for 22
years w/o a problem for minor organic waste. The tanks have been pumped
perhaps four times w/o a problem.

On 12/7/2011 10:53 PM, hr(bob) wrote:
My wife and I and 2 (now left the nest) children have lived in this
house for 46 years. City water, septic tank and leach field. I had
the tank pumped every few years when the kids were at home, now for
just the 2 of us, I have it pumped every 5 years. Never had sludge
build up anywhere near the outlet level, but we are very careful not
to flush anything that we do not believe is biodegradeable, like sand,
plastic scraps, etc.

Ny wife is thinking that it is time for us to get a garbage disposal,
to avoid having to clean carrot and potato peelings out of the sink,
etc. I am a little concerned about the added strain on the septic
tank and whether we should proceed with my installing a disposal or
not.

All polite opinions warmly welcomed, expecially if you have any first-
hand experience.

On Thu, 8 Dec 2011 02:26:12 -0800 (PST), bob haller wrote:

given what the costs are to repair or replace a septic system i
wouldnt get a disposal.

you might get away with it but say the septic devlops a problem you
wouldnt want to blame your wife, for perhaps having cost 10, 20, or 30
grand.

a septic tank problem can easily make you upgrade it to current code.
that could mean a whole new system

More reason to leave the Socialists Utopia.

EXT wrote:

There's really no choice. You MUST humor the wife.

Actually, you have to humor your local government. Septic regs have
tightened a lot in the past few years, disposal units may or may not
be outlawed. Real Estate sales people may know what buyers want, but
often no little or nothing about building codes. Some areas require
them, sale allow them, some prohibit them, you don't want to sell a
house that contravenes the code and "could" cause problems for the
buyers to blame on you.

You make a good point. Still, when faced with the choices: a) Please the
wife, or b) Please the government...

Let me think...

Actually, you have to humor your local government. Septic regs have
tightened a lot in the past few years, disposal units may or may not be
outlawed. Real Estate sales people may know what buyers want, but often no
little or nothing about building codes. Some areas require them, sale allow
them, some prohibit them, you don't want to sell a house that contravenes
the code and "could" cause problems for the buyers to blame on you


nearly everywhere grandfathers in non complying stuff.

if a disposal had to be removed it would be pretty cheap

HeyBub wrote:
EXT wrote:

There's really no choice. You MUST humor the wife.

Actually, you have to humor your local government. Septic regs have
tightened a lot in the past few years, disposal units may or may not
be outlawed. Real Estate sales people may know what buyers want, but
often no little or nothing about building codes. Some areas require
them, sale allow them, some prohibit them, you don't want to sell a
house that contravenes the code and "could" cause problems for the
buyers to blame on you.

You make a good point. Still, when faced with the choices: a) Please
the wife, or b) Please the government...

Let me think...

What's the difference, they both screw you

--

dadiOH
____________________________

dadiOH's dandies v3.06...
....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico

zzzzzzzzzz wrote:
On Thu, 8 Dec 2011 02:26:12 -0800 (PST), bob haller
wrote:

given what the costs are to repair or replace a septic system i
wouldnt get a disposal.

you might get away with it but say the septic devlops a problem you
wouldnt want to blame your wife, for perhaps having cost 10, 20, or
30 grand.

a septic tank problem can easily make you upgrade it to current code.
that could mean a whole new system

More reason to leave the Socialists Utopia.

Feel free.



..

hr(bob) wrote:
My wife and I and 2 (now left the nest) children have lived in this
house for 46 years. City water, septic tank and leach field. I had
the tank pumped every few years when the kids were at home, now for
just the 2 of us, I have it pumped every 5 years. Never had sludge
build up anywhere near the outlet level, but we are very careful not
to flush anything that we do not believe is biodegradeable, like sand,
plastic scraps, etc.

Ny wife is thinking that it is time for us to get a garbage disposal,
to avoid having to clean carrot and potato peelings out of the sink,
etc. I am a little concerned about the added strain on the septic
tank and whether we should proceed with my installing a disposal or
not.

All polite opinions warmly welcomed, expecially if you have any first-
hand experience.

My kitchen has a disposal in a smaller corner sink at the back corner of the big
one. I've often thought of re-plumbing that to drain into a screened compost bin
outside, perhaps one of those conical half-buried ones the city promotes.



..

dadiOH wrote:
HeyBub wrote:
EXT wrote:

There's really no choice. You MUST humor the wife.

Actually, you have to humor your local government. Septic regs have
tightened a lot in the past few years, disposal units may or may not
be outlawed. Real Estate sales people may know what buyers want, but
often no little or nothing about building codes. Some areas require
them, sale allow them, some prohibit them, you don't want to sell a
house that contravenes the code and "could" cause problems for the
buyers to blame on you.

You make a good point. Still, when faced with the choices: a) Please
the wife, or b) Please the government...

Let me think...

What's the difference, they both screw you

Some would call you lucky.

"hr(bob) " wrote in message
...
My wife and I and 2 (now left the nest) children have lived in this
house for 46 years. City water, septic tank and leach field. I had
the tank pumped every few years when the kids were at home, now for
just the 2 of us, I have it pumped every 5 years. Never had sludge
build up anywhere near the outlet level, but we are very careful not
to flush anything that we do not believe is biodegradeable, like sand,
plastic scraps, etc.

Ny wife is thinking that it is time for us to get a garbage disposal,
to avoid having to clean carrot and potato peelings out of the sink,
etc. I am a little concerned about the added strain on the septic
tank and whether we should proceed with my installing a disposal or
not.

All polite opinions warmly welcomed, expecially if you have any first-
hand experience.

We're on our 3rd house with septic and never had a disposal. Compost is the
answer. Peel those veggies into a single sheet of newspaper and throw it
into the compost bin, or garbage if you prefer.
I wouldn't install one and also don't throw coffee grounds down the sink
either.

On Fri, 9 Dec 2011 07:39:11 -0800, "Bob F" wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 8 Dec 2011 02:26:12 -0800 (PST), bob haller
wrote:

given what the costs are to repair or replace a septic system i
wouldnt get a disposal.

you might get away with it but say the septic devlops a problem you
wouldnt want to blame your wife, for perhaps having cost 10, 20, or
30 grand.

a septic tank problem can easily make you upgrade it to current code.
that could mean a whole new system

More reason to leave the Socialists Utopia.

Feel free.

I already did, dummy.

On Fri, 9 Dec 2011 08:22:36 -0500, "dadiOH" wrote:

HeyBub wrote:
EXT wrote:

There's really no choice. You MUST humor the wife.

Actually, you have to humor your local government. Septic regs have
tightened a lot in the past few years, disposal units may or may not
be outlawed. Real Estate sales people may know what buyers want, but
often no little or nothing about building codes. Some areas require
them, sale allow them, some prohibit them, you don't want to sell a
house that contravenes the code and "could" cause problems for the
buyers to blame on you.

You make a good point. Still, when faced with the choices: a) Please
the wife, or b) Please the government...

Let me think...

What's the difference, they both screw you

If you don't know *that* difference, you must have some marriage!

zzzzzzzzzz wrote:
On Fri, 9 Dec 2011 08:22:36 -0500, "dadiOH"
wrote:

HeyBub wrote:
EXT wrote:

There's really no choice. You MUST humor the wife.

Actually, you have to humor your local government. Septic regs have
tightened a lot in the past few years, disposal units may or may
not be outlawed. Real Estate sales people may know what buyers
want, but often no little or nothing about building codes. Some
areas require them, sale allow them, some prohibit them, you don't
want to sell a house that contravenes the code and "could" cause
problems for the buyers to blame on you.

You make a good point. Still, when faced with the choices: a) Please
the wife, or b) Please the government...

Let me think...

What's the difference, they both screw you

If you don't know *that* difference, you must have some marriage!

I take it you have never been divorced?

--

dadiOH
____________________________

dadiOH's dandies v3.06...
....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico

dadiOH wrote:

If you don't know *that* difference, you must have some marriage!

I take it you have never been divorced?

Once. Since then, I just pick out a woman I don't like and give her half my
stuff.

On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 16:14:40 -0500, "dadiOH" wrote:

wrote:
On Fri, 9 Dec 2011 08:22:36 -0500, "dadiOH"
wrote:

HeyBub wrote:
EXT wrote:

There's really no choice. You MUST humor the wife.

Actually, you have to humor your local government. Septic regs have
tightened a lot in the past few years, disposal units may or may
not be outlawed. Real Estate sales people may know what buyers
want, but often no little or nothing about building codes. Some
areas require them, sale allow them, some prohibit them, you don't
want to sell a house that contravenes the code and "could" cause
problems for the buyers to blame on you.

You make a good point. Still, when faced with the choices: a) Please
the wife, or b) Please the government...

Let me think...

What's the difference, they both screw you

If you don't know *that* difference, you must have some marriage!

I take it you have never been divorced?

Nope (going on 41 years), but that comes under "some marriage", doesn't it?

zzzzzzzzzz wrote:
On Fri, 9 Dec 2011 07:39:11 -0800, "Bob F"
wrote:

zzzzzzzzzz wrote:
On Thu, 8 Dec 2011 02:26:12 -0800 (PST), bob haller
wrote:

given what the costs are to repair or replace a septic system i
wouldnt get a disposal.

you might get away with it but say the septic devlops a problem
you wouldnt want to blame your wife, for perhaps having cost 10,
20, or 30 grand.

a septic tank problem can easily make you upgrade it to current
code. that could mean a whole new system

More reason to leave the Socialists Utopia.

Feel free.

I already did, dummy.

Good riddance.

Joe J wrote:
"hr(bob) " wrote in message
...
My wife and I and 2 (now left the nest) children have lived in this
house for 46 years. City water, septic tank and leach field. I had
the tank pumped every few years when the kids were at home, now for
just the 2 of us, I have it pumped every 5 years. Never had sludge
build up anywhere near the outlet level, but we are very careful not
to flush anything that we do not believe is biodegradeable, like
sand, plastic scraps, etc.

Ny wife is thinking that it is time for us to get a garbage disposal,
to avoid having to clean carrot and potato peelings out of the sink,
etc. I am a little concerned about the added strain on the septic
tank and whether we should proceed with my installing a disposal or
not.

All polite opinions warmly welcomed, expecially if you have any
first- hand experience.

We're on our 3rd house with septic and never had a disposal. Compost
is the answer. Peel those veggies into a single sheet of newspaper
and throw it into the compost bin, or garbage if you prefer.
I wouldn't install one and also don't throw coffee grounds down the
sink either.

True. The stuff that doesn't go into the compost doesn't amount to much.

On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 21:57:57 -0800, "Bob F" wrote:

wrote:
On Fri, 9 Dec 2011 07:39:11 -0800, "Bob F"
wrote:

zzzzzzzzzz wrote:
On Thu, 8 Dec 2011 02:26:12 -0800 (PST), bob haller
wrote:

given what the costs are to repair or replace a septic system i
wouldnt get a disposal.

you might get away with it but say the septic devlops a problem
you wouldnt want to blame your wife, for perhaps having cost 10,
20, or 30 grand.

a septic tank problem can easily make you upgrade it to current
code. that could mean a whole new system

More reason to leave the Socialists Utopia.

Feel free.

I already did, dummy.

Good riddance.

Good grief, you're stupid. ...though all lefties are.

On 12/8/2011 9:57 AM, wrote:
On Dec 8, 3:55 am, wrote:
How
about if you rely on the strainer in the sink and run the water to
rinse the peelings into the strainer. Maybe one of those white
plastic strainers is easier to wipe off than a metal strainer. Just a
guess.

How about peeling the carrots and potatoes right over the trash can,
on to a large flexible plastic cutting board, or over a work bowl
instead of the sink?

At most you simply have to dump the work bowl or cutting board into
the trash can.

For those of you that say "ewwww, gross!" to the idea of peeling
directly over the trash can, it doesn't have to be a can full of week-
old rotting food. Trash bags are cheap. Put a fresh one in, and don't
stick the veggies right in the can. Work ABOVE the can.... For
crissake, you're gonna wash the veggies and boil the snot out of them
in a few minutes anyway. Hell, they came out of the DIRT which is
chock full of live critters and rotting poo and bacteria. Ain't any
worse than a fresh clean new garbage bag.

First time septic owner. After reading up on it, we do have a disposal
unit, however, using it only a little. We put waste veggie matter in a
covered crock with a plastic bag liner, which resides on the kitchen
counter. If a few pieces fall in the the sink, they get ground up and
into the septic they go. Periodically, usually once a day, the crock
bag is dumped into the compost bin outside the utility room. If there
is big veggie waste, like from squeezing citrus, we put them in an old
plastic grocery bag and put it in the freezer. Then it goes in with the
garbage, ultimately to the landfill. I know, the plastic is not that
good in the landfill, however, they are supposed to be making more
biodegradable bags now, but I'm not sure. BTW, and a little OT, one of
the local grocery chains here in western NC, gives you $ .05 per bag
of groceries if you bring old plastic bags or reusable bags.